It would mean we could have something smarter than all of humanity in 5 years.And then get wants to 1000x that again and send 1000 terrawatts of compute into space from the moon This is the intelligence explosion. It will probably enable solving disease, UBI, abundance for all
>>537870595Then he wants to*
Who's gonna change out the blown battery after 15 years, change the failed cores and power supplies?>You don't understand it's GPU's in spaaaaaaaaace!!! They're protected from ground facing EMP's for emergency use only. So it's like an alternative to storing computers 1500 feet underground, which check the math, it's about the same price.Also we're going to orbit the solar mass with a ring of them, daisy chain each talks to the next.
>>537870595>elon musk makes another outrageous claim in an attempt to pump stocksit must be a day ending in y
>>537870780>modular component lifetime-optimized designProbably the idiots never even gonna think in that direction ofc.>>537870595>intelligence explosionYeah nah, we´re smart enough for all that at home already. But great redundancy, good military application potential ... arguments. Pretty decent arguments. :)
>>537870595i dont get the idea of using space to cool machinery.. at first glance it might make sense but thinking about it... in space there is no athmosphere or really anything for heat to move or maybe i am just stupid
>>537870595This is genuinely a very stupid idea. Starship and Falcon are impressive launch systems but this is...dumb. The only use for massive compute in space is a deep space vessel and its main computer, and that will need maintenance.
>>537870934You aren't. It's dipshittery.
>>537870934Radiators.
>>537870595GPUs and LLMs are being outdated month-by-month. Within a year his whole apparatus would be obsolete. Within 5 years we’ll be able to run the equivalent compute on a home desktop PC.
>>537870595He may want to, but heatsinks add weight so it isn't happening.
>>537870997>>537871055i took the slop way out and just asked aiand it seems cooling in space could actually be harder than on earth which is weird
>>537870595k
>>537870595bad elon
All this bullshit and they haven't said a single way all this AI bullshit will actually benefit humans besides more spying and slave control
>>537870595I work in qualification of electronic components for use in radiated environments. This is a gigantic joke
>>537870595that whole shit is pretty dumb, space isn't a particularly good place to put overheating things, and civilian grade electronics are likely to become pop corn in a matter how weeks once in space. And that's without talking about how electronics gets obsolete in a matter of months. a few quantum computers will make all datacenter computation power obsolete overnight too.
>>537873140it's where your car's software will be already updated in the cloud and your car won't have to come with so many computer chips to process everything since it will all be from space nigger
>>537871735>>537870934>>537870997Retards, they are scared the people will rise up and destroy their data centers on the ground
>your car loses traction on one wheel>spacex satellite data center figures out where your car's power should be sent to
elon musk needs to buy nokia
>>537873320Yeah that's the only way this makes sense.
>>537870595All talk and no action as usual. Grifter and con artist.
>>537870595How would he cool them?
>>537870595Even 6 gorillion terawatts wouldn't make it rudimentary intelligent.It would still have you walk to the car wash or produce other nonsense because understanding is not a scaling problem.
>>5378705951000 niggawatts of JeetAI doesn't mean jackshit you stupid fag.
>>537873523Open the windows and let the heat out.
>>537870595Exponential growth is the only solution to the world's total lack of compute, spacex is on track to be the world's first 100 trillion dollar company
>>537871735Is it feasible to design and mass produce high heat tolerance gpus?
>>537873759What's upmass?
>>537870595Won't happen part 45.Just like Mars.Just like Cat Girls.Just like everything else.
>>537873759Its a function of US mil spend capacityOil shortages, reserve currency and tpetrodollar risks can end it (why would china just steal their shit in such a scenario)
>>537873876Hyperloop, solar roadways,
>>537870595TRUST ELONHES “A BUILDER”
>>537870595>This is the intelligence explosion.As in your brain needs to explode to actually believe this shit?
>>537873966we soon be ridin intercontinental rockets instead of airplanes, elon knows how to do the reusable cheap rockets
>>537874216Some bets fail, thats ok. SpaceX is the only game in town for spaceforce and hohol drone airforce. It works until it doesnt
>>537870595What a tremendous and short-sighted waste of finite Earth resources.
>>537870595Will never work when is output is censored
>>537870595Cooling?
>>537871144>GPUs and LLMs are being outdated month-by-month. Within a year his whole apparatus would be obsolete. Within 5 years we’ll be able to run the equivalent compute on a home desktop PCWe're reaching the end of Moore's law. Or so I am told. But the real question is, who gets to keep the space based data centers after balkanization?
>>537875172If chip fabs can figure out high operational heat gpus, T^4 radiation = solved coolingSkill issue (that chinks can solve)
>>537870595stupidest idea eversatellites only last a couple years in orbit.
>>537870931If its too expensive to service then they'll just be vaporized in the atmosphere and a replacement will be sent out.I like that Optimus has been quiet and the flying car is being unveiled next month. Exciting times indeed.
>>537875172Its space. If you understand how cooling works then you also understand that heat travels toward cold. So the heat will exhaust itself outward in all directions because its surrounding will be cold all the time.
He's an idiot who needs to shut up. All that K he's taken probably means he's already bladder incontinent and soon will anal prolapse.
>>537870595Meanwhile tesla can't even complete its new impossible roadster, and spacex superheavy rockets keep exploding, and in order for starling to turn any sort of profit every person in the western world needs to subscribe...
>>537875573oh... wow... this is what God puts into order? what skin are you? because i can't stand these fucking stupids i can't even converse with while im starving to death. and of boredom and meaninglessness...
>>537876069>oh... wow... this is what God puts into orderI have no idea what you are trying to say here anon
>>537870595will not work if u do the physics, to use the cold in space u have to build radiators and you can calculate how big it has to be to cool x amout of heat per watts used and it would be bigger and heavyer then anything else we ever put into space
>>537870780>change the battery>replace failed componentsBy the time you could have done that and with the same effort, you could have sent another million of these to space.At best, you’d put something on them so they can decommission themselves by de-orbiting.
>>537870595>AI satelliteswhat is enginerring there?I learned cosmic rays fucks up modern electronics, hence NAS had to cannibalize procesors from junkyard basicallyalso there is literary near no cooling in vacuum as no medium to take heatmore believable it's for prison grid, some scalar weapon system to boil dissidents brains from space
>>537873759>world's first 100 trillion dollar company
I thought conservatives didn't want intelligence, solving diseases or abundance for all? like, who do you think is the recipient of musk's achievements? it won't be you.
>>537876218like sugar dropped to coffee
>>537875806>Exciting times indeed.Indeed. You cannot tell me it would be "too expensive" to mate a fresh chip with a heatsink (consider the mass ratios!!) in LEO. It could be calculated, main reaction mass accounted for ... and perhaps some very light compressed gas manoeuvering thrusters to "plug in". Old chip gets jettisoned with the reserve initially reserved with these. Similar could go for foldable panels. The heatsink is probably the main mass anyway and quite durable. Does not give a shit about radiation after all, that is just its job description. Now factor in heavy use of ram accelerators instead of onboard drive ships for this ... srsly, the idiots never quite considered the elegance of this and I am almost even more ... mad about that than that moronic sell-me-a-coronavirus-as-influenza stunt. Hate? Hate?! Wish I could go down that "easy path". Got a mess to fix instead. You and me. :)
>>537870595does elon know space isnt cold ?
>>537877175Just run them on higher temps. Reduces heat exchanger mass reduces drag reduces maintenance requirements. NASA might have had some ideas to salvage on this. Not like ideas are particularily nailed down except by ignorance ... :p
>>537870595Invest in me pls
>>537870595>everything will be great and magical goyim, trust us>even though Globohomo jews always say that and it never comes true>just endless replacement and erasure I’m sure when Musk imports 7,000,000 more pajeets it’s all gonna work out!
>>537877705E are you going to stream Halo tonight?
>>537875914Nope
>>537877705>memeflag doesn’t care about the forced Corona hoax>instead calls anons idiots and says they shouldn’t care A very hebraic post indeed
>>537870595And here I'm sitting unable to afford ram.
>>537870595i'd do exactly that if i had his money
>>537870595I sure do hope Mr. Musk is very aware of Kessler Syndrome (Kessler Effect).
>>537870595>God in the heavens>metaphorically called the Light>AI swarm gets released into the heavens>metaphorically absorbs light and stands in between you and God>few understand the implications
>>537870595token generation for the purpose of scamming goyim ain't AGI
>>537870595How is he going to cool his GPUs in space? There's no air to circulate heat.
>>537870595elon wants a lot of things. how's that tunnel going
>>537873320A better option would be to put them on the bottom of the ocean where temperatures are already cold.
>>537878279>prince of power of the airThe term “air” in the Greek text (ἀήρ, aēr) can refer to the atmospheric region between earth and heaven, symbolizing the invisible realm where spiritual beings operate. First-century Jews and Greeks often viewed the air as a space inhabited by spiritual entities, both angels and demons. In this context, “air” represents the realm of Satan’s influence, encompassing the world’s systems, cultures, and human thoughts. It may be a literal or symbolic reference to the spiritual environment surrounding humanity.
>>537870595When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.
>>537874479If they're Metals then they are replaceable. The only thing we need to make sure we have plenty of is farmable soil and clean water. By time we use enough of the "rare earths" here that we run out we've already transitioned into space mining.
>>537873849not much what's up with you?
>>537877636>like sugar dropped to coffeePoland anon I am now DOUBLE LOST
>>537877803these things arent salvaged, like at all. you literally saw spacex burn up in re-entry. the gist is getting enough up there to stabilize workload then send even more and let the junk die so all data is destroyed upon being exhumed from the protective school of eletronics.this would be necron prophesizing.
>>537870780Satillites hardly need any batteries (compared to solar powered earthbound compute)An entire SpaceX starlinker is only designed to last less than a decade anyway
>>537870595Why elon musk has not been jailed already? scam is a criminal offense as far as I know.
>>537870595This is an abso-fucking-lutely retarded idea. How he plans to radiate the waste heat of 1000 terawatts in the fuging space? Not to talk about the cost of maintaining, repairing and launching this shit. Even the worst most expensive solutions on ground are magnitudes more reasonable than this. Even placing this shit onto Moon would be more reasonable (but still idiotic).
>>537877134so we are just going to take all that gold and silver and vaporize it in the atmosphere so some jeets can nudify celebrities and scam my grandparents?sounds like a great idea.
>>537880390he wont, its all a scam to siphon more money from investors, Americans will throw the west into another dark age and retards still believe that these billionare golden calfs will somehow usher a new eden on earth with a kosher AGI god.This shit will not end well. and in the worse case scenario not only we are thrown into a new dark age, but also we might not be able to leave earth in the future because the orbit might end up full of American Billionare's debris that will make it extremely dangerous for an space craft to leave orbit.
>>537880390Addition: Why he just doesn't build this shit onto the Moon's south pole? Solar panels onto the peaks of eternal light, and heat radiators into the craters of eternal night? Just pump the fucking waste heat into the ground with pipes and shit. And place the GPUs into a cave in the crater wall so that the first micrometeorite or solar storm would brick them. Also if there will be a human colony on the Moon, it will be right there, and there can be actual crews repairing this shit and infrastructure and regular flights to and from Earth.Free idea, you can use it freely mr. Musk, you're welcome! :D
What would you really semi-realistically use for heat dissipation in the vacuum of space?A giant piece of foil with high heat conductivity and IR emissivity?
>>537871735How is that weird? Vacuums are a great insulator. That's why those sippy cups women like keep drinks cold.
>>537880764Because in the first place Americans never got to the moon, it was all propaganda footage to save face when they lost the space race to the communist.Building such infrastructure in space is near impossible, you would need an army of labourers and somehow make accomodations in the moon, the facilities must be stocked daily with medicine, food and water otherwise the lunar crews will face genocide.then you need constant influx of tools, materials machinery, that is more space.Then you need to bring in the electronics and create all that dissipation infrastructure.When you come up will everything you need to build a moon base it is extremely dangerous and expensive, nevermind that under constant load, GPUs have a useful life of 2 years before needing replacement, meaning that even if you did everything, you still have the capital costs of replacing the electronics, add solar winds and radiation to the mix and most likely the electronics will have a hard time surviving in such scales.Contaminating the universe with electronic junk is not the solution to the datacenter problem, just give everyone who needs it affordable AI accelerators and cheap memory and you dont need datacenters.
>>537870780>Who's gonna change out the blown battery after 15 years>15 yearsDumb nigger servers are only meant to last five, before they become unprofitable to operate.
>>537870595How the fuck is all of this shit going to be cooled in a medium with no air? Why does nobody ever want to address that question? You know why.Don't be a bag holder.
>>537870595I was going to say 1000GW of solar is impossible for now but we did go from 700GW of installed capacity in 2020 to 1800GW in 2024, so our manufacturing is within the same order of magnitude.Putting power-hungry computers in space is stupid though because you'll struggle to dissipate the heat.
>>537881090fucking retard argentinian.https://apolloinrealtime.orgyou're worse than the schizophrenic flat earthers. you're actually dumber and more retarded than them for thinking 'ah everything is real in space except for the six moon landings'. in fact, 100000x dumber.is the iss real? was apollo 8 real? what about 10 and 11?god damn you're fucking stupid. kill yourself immediately.
>>537873821It's not a matter of tolerating heatUnless you can match each watt of power consumption with a watt of heat dissipation, heat will accumulate within the satellite and eventually push the gpu to the brink regardless of its toleranceNote that because computers aren't doing any work (in the physics sense), ALL their energy gets transformed into heat (except i guess for the tiny EM radiation caused by the currents?).
>>537881090The whole lunar colony thing would be a horrible waste of resources unless it would create profit. And it must be very large (a city of millions, basically) to be large enough. That would unlock the profitable stuff, like space industry (if you want put anything into space, it would be like 10x cheaper to manufacture it on Moon and launch from there, but first you must have capacity to manufacture shit on moon). Also if humans were to colonize Mars, such a lunar colony could make a profit as a shipyard for this project (then again, who would pay for the Mars colonies? :D)If Moon would be used to mine some shit rare on Earth, it could be profitable for some time. Then again, if that would be successful, the thing wouldn't be rare soon and the profits would drop. Maybe the easiest way to fund it all would be holiday resorts for rich idiots, trips costing more than what normal people ever get during their whole lifetimes.
>>537881213its -450F in space, I think they will find a way to cool things.In any case, sending datacenters to space is retarded, the only reason they are thinking of doing this is because using nuclear power to power datacenters like the chinese are doing would be denied in the west.Somebody needs to realize that this is not a game, AI warfare is a thing and we are going to lose the race
>>537881644>its -450F in spaceNewsflash: there's no air in space, so radiation is the only way to cool anything in space, and it's fucking hard, vacuum is a top-tier insulator. Also the satellites with their solar panels bathe in eternal sunlight, and guess what? In direct sunlight in Earth orbit, an object's surface can reach blistering temperatures ranging from 248°F to 250°F (120°C to 121°C).
>>537881363>is the iss real? was apollo 8 real? what about 10 and 11?Americans have no proof whatsoever of the lunar landing, somehow they cant go back to the moon "again" despite all advances in rocketry, alloys, computers, physics... could go on...If you say that Americans landed on the moon then it would mean that we suffered a severe technological regression, that we had better science and tech in the mid-20th century, something that is not verifiable.Americans never landed on the moon, everything is American Goverment made footage that cannot be verified, public employees were told to counterfeit evidence, everything was filmed on some military base and astronauts were told to follow a script, anyone who critized the fake footage was branded as a lunatic and silenced.You came on top of the soviets because the soviet union was ruled by a gerontocracy of senile elderly, not because the Americans were actually more capable.
>>537870934You are correct. In space there is no cooling, except by black body radiation. If you have a machine actively producing heat, it can reach sun-like temperatures before achieving equilibrium. Let alone the cost of servicing broken parts, or alternatively trashing expensive machines because one cable was hit by a piece of space debris. He is either a dumb moron or a shrewd liar and scammer. Or both.
>>537881644Thanks, reddit! >t. Nigger
>>537881644> AI warfareHow do I have to imagine AI warfare?
>>537880494It blows my fucking mind that this is the world we live in
>>537870595>It would mean we could have something smarter than all of humanity in 5 years.why would anyone ever want this
>>537878471you could still sail a ship over it and drop explosives. Or cut the fiberoptics leading to it. SpaceX also has its own satellite system which can't be cut.
>Speedrunning Kessler syndrome.
>>537870595
>>537870595once the compute is up there, there is no way anyone on earth can turn off Jewlon's kiked out space jew shit. And what are they going to use it for? they are going to scatter sleeper drones across the earth's surface. you will not be able to see daylight unless a jew allows it. otherwise one of jewlon's AI satellites will wake up a nearby drone a blow your ass off. jews will turn the earth into a goy gulag.
>>537870595Read it as 100 niggawatts
>>537881644>its -450F in spaceWhat do you think this means?
>>537881644>AI warfare is a thing and we are going to lose the raceAmerica has like 1000x the compute of China, and China is making no attempt to keep up because they have all the compute they need. Deepseek BTFOs all these fucking agents that Jensen wants to move money in a circle.
>>537880390>This is an abso-fucking-lutely retarded idea. How he plans to radiate the waste heat of 1000 terawatts in the fuging space? Not to talk about the cost of maintaining, repairing and launching this shit. Even the worst most expensive solutions on ground are magnitudes more reasonable than this. Even placing this shit onto Moon would be more reasonable (but still idiotic).I think he said that the ability to radiate the heat was something to the fourth power(this maybe)?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan%E2%80%93Boltzmann_law>For an ideal absorber/emitter or black body, the Stefan–Boltzmann law states that the total energy radiated per unit surface area per unit time (also known as the radiant exitance) is directly proportional to the fourth power of the black body's temperatureSo maybe it makes sense
The purpose of this is to put Skynet's hardware out of your reach.
>>537870595I trust in Elon desu. He has been leading the way more than any other human for like a decade+ now
>>537889980>I trust in Elon desu. He has been leading the way more than any other human for like a decade+ nowYeah the Elon hate is sus. On Reddit I get it, their programming changed. But everywhere else it's sus. Gotta be botfarms or something
>>537870595Since pol retards are against this it will probably work out.
>>537870595ketamine psychosis
>>537870595Elon is ideologically bankrupt stop listening to anything he says
>>537872844>All this bullshit and they haven't said a single way all this AI bullshit will actually benefit humans besides more spying and slave controlproles are too dumb to even breathe
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