https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Lacey_FletcherHow do you expect people to not only believe God is real but also performs miracles, and yet he allowed this to happen? Her parents were church going christians, btw
Being called to Heaven is the greatest reward there is. They are in a better place.
>>537874470Why did God allow her to die in that manner specifically? You're disgusting.
Torturing children is all part of god’s plan
Why didnt you do something about it if you thought God wasnt coming to help
>>537874353The world is run by Saklas
>>537874531Because no one but her parents knew about it you fucking idiot. You know who did know about it though? God. On account of being all knowing.
>>537874353the fact that those 2 homicidal boomer fucks only got FIVE YEARS for KILLING THEIR OWN DAUGHTER is fucking sickpoor girl
>>537874353lol I don’t think you know what the word means
>>537874470
>>537874591Except you said he doesnt exist.
>>537874353Because God must drink the sweet milk of our tears to gain his great power
>>537874353
The world is run by SaklasHe takes your sack so you become Saklas
>>537874633If he does exist and is good why did lacey fletcher die in the manner she did?
>>537874353>god does something>blame men>men do something>blame godWhy are atheists like this?
>>537874719Wtf is this circular logic
And im not even the one trying to disprove God, you are
>>537874500God allows free will to happen and sorts them out in hell and purgatory. We are washed clean in Heaven. It is like our suffering never happened.
>>537874762circular logic? You are the one claiming that he exists and is completely good and all powerful and all knowing. Those assertions are incompatible with people like lacey fletcher suffering the way they do. Explain how they are compatible you disgusting pos
Growing up around Christians you realize that religiousity =/= morality.Thus the only conclusion a sane person can make is that Religion is a lark. And that what happens after our death is best met when it happens.
>>537874353>Her body fused to the fiber of the leather couch cushion, which had been worn down into a deep depression, and she was covered in urine and feces, and maggots lived inside her knotted brown hair and inside her pressure ulcers.
>>537874353The most horrific cases of child abuse are perpetrated by Christians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpin_case
>>537874353>I LEFT THAT BITCH TO ROT FOR AN AMAZING REASON YOU FUCKING CHUD!>THATS IT.>DAMNATION FOR YOU.>STRAIGHT TO HELL BUDDY!
>>537874633that's the point, retard. believing in god is retarded, at least the abrahmic version.
>>537874923I assume when a man claims to be a woman, you trust him?You don’t require any additional details to make a judgement, just them saying it is enough.Correct?
>>537874915Would
>>537874858JUST ACCEPT HE DOESNT EXIST THENSTOP PLEADING WITH ME
>>537874719mankind fell when adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit. we gained consciousness and we learned the capacity for good and evil. animals don't commit good and evil, they can't. when a lion eats an antelope it's not an evil act, it's instinct. by the same token, a lion can't build a factory farm where he locks antelopes in cages and slaughters them by the billions to satiate his gluttony. only humans can do that.
>>537875012>WHAT ABOUT TRANNIES THOUUUUUUGH!!!It's impossible to have a real conversation with you.
>>537874353>muh bad thing happenpage 3 of the Bible is the answer - people chose Satan, the serpent. Enjoy.
>>537875012>I assume when a man claims to be a woman, you trust him?What the fuck are you talking about? No I don't, and what do trannies have to do with this?
>>537875033I'm forcing you to confront the reality of your gods vile character.
>Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after deathI think we figured out what killed her.
>>537874353something something free will
>>537874353if there is a God he doesn't give shit about us
>>537875068Oh wow, that is so, weird.So you are one of those people who thinks people can claim to be something, when the opposite is actually the case?
>>537875056Did Lacey choose Satan? She's the one who suffered. You are disgusting and make excuses for blatant evil. If anyone should suffer in the afterlife it should be scumbags like you.
>>537875012>christard has trannies glued to his brainmany such cases
>>537874729an all-knowing all-powerful god supposedly created all men just the way they are, so of course he would be to blame.
>>537875076Oh so now he exists, but hes just evil
Interesting development
>>537875156>what if I define god in a retarded way?>hmmm… its retarded…>I guess I don’t believe in that retarded thing I made upeveryone else BTFO!
Maybe she was an antisemite?!
>>537875162It's completely possible. I never even said he doesn't exist, I said you expect people to not only believe he exists but that he is good. The only way he can exist is if he's evil, that's kind of the point of this thread.
>>537874923>penecostals>engineer for locksneed and northrupthose kids never had a chance
>>537874810source: I made it up
>>537874353According to christfags you need Fritzl and his amazing parenting skills or we wouldn't be able to discern between good and evil
>>537875211glad to hear you're not a retarded christian cause that's how they define him.
>>537875211you are referring to yahweh, correct?
>from Slaughter, Louisianawell that's poetic
>>537874915location :>Slaughter, Louisiana
>>537874353Because this is a fallen, corrupt world and only heaven is perfect and people have free will to do good and evil? There's plenty to question if you actually knew anything about Christianity instead of this braindead shit.
>>537875113orrr or.. WE DID SOME BAD SHIT IN THE REAL WORLD, SO HE SENT US TO HELL
>>537875355>only heaven is perfectproof?
>>537875215Works for meFor now.
>>537875338I believe I’m referring to the god anon created in his kind.But I’m just guessing based on the words I wrote, it’s literally impossible to tell from the explicit context.
>>537875400>proof?
>>537875303No they don’t. The Bible is clear God is not all-knowing, which also omits all-powerful by necessity.
>>537874353>Diagnosed with covid 19 after her deathWhy are they like this
>>537875446christianity is a reddit sjw religion at its core, enjoy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/
>>537875485God is omniscient
>>537875529Okay well cool headcanon bro.
>>537875276> Counter source: I made it up
>>537875405I guess you must be evil too
>>537875570Works for meFor now.
>>537874810>God allows free will to happen and sorts them out in hell and purgatory.But God knows everything.He knew she'd die like that.If it just gets washed clean, what's the point?Can I rape your arse if I roofie you so you never remember it?
>>537875355>Because this is a fallen, corrupt worldIf God wanted it to be different it would be. He's all powerful. I've literally spent dozens if not hundreds of hours arguing with you stupid fucks about this and you will never ever get it, despite claiming yourselves that he is all powerful. Honestly you should just be euthanized. You are mentally defective and dangerous to society by the amount of evil to make excuses for.
>>537875153If I personally knew her parents I'd burn them alive while reading all the best quotes about the cleansing flame and dross and whatnot.
>>537874353fuk this gay earth. wtf is wrong wjth these god damn normie demons. I am done with your world and ways. A new way. Fuck these people forever who did this, fuck them forever. Demonspawn
>>537874500What's a small lifetime of pain compared to a eternity of bliss? Easy choice.
>>537875056>people chose Satan, the serpent.I really hope you don't complain about people holding whites responsible for all the ills in the world then because some whites did colonialism.When an abo asks you for a ciggie you better fucking give him one, sinner.
>>537875666Hey as long as they repent sincerely they'll go to heaven and be with Jesus forever :) All sins are equal before the lord. Lying to your parents when you were a kid or having gay sex is just as evil to him as two demonic baby boomers allowing their daughter to disintegrate and be eaten by maggots while alive.
>>537875698>What's a small lifetime of pain compared to a eternity of bliss?Why does there need to be a lifetime of pain at all? Getting a reward at the end (allegedly) doesn't excuse the immense evil and suffering in this life. You are revolting.
>>537875156god created a pair of walking apes and told them not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, lest they perish. but they did so anyway. so they were cast out into the wilderness to create a world of man from the toils of labor and the pain of childbirth. the natural world is perfect and does not need intervention - when a volcano erupts or a butterfly lays eggs or a shark eats a fish, it is neither good or evil, it is natural. man corrupts what is natural with his humanity. he creates the conditions for murder and extinction and nuclear bombs and child abuse and every other evil. man alone creates evil. if humans wipe themselves off the face of the earth, nature will remain (well, what's left of it after we commit our atrocities), and it will remain perfect.
Everyone involved in this case will hug their daughters tighter at night, the judge will crack down on these types of criminals more severely, the state will have more inclination to do wellness checks, the prisoners who get their paperwork will reflect on their own family, the people who read about it online will be affected, the church they attended will have to reflect on their own failings.Everyone who knows about this case will be touched and affected by it, and, god willing will move forward with the will to make sure here death wasn’t cor nothing.In her horrible final moments she was suffering horribly. But her suffering may just hold a mirror to everyone involved and prevent further evils. It’s hard to tecocnile it all, especially something so severe. But at the end of the day all you can do with something like this is to try and stop it from ever happening again. Free will is a bitch. Those people didn't just fail their daughter, their souls are permanently disfigured. Humans are sick and evil sometimes, but we are also good. One of the officers who saw that poor girl went home, cried, prayed and decided to spend more time with his baby, that set of events meant that she had a stable family life and went to higher education, becoming the doctor who developed bone infection treatments, thus saving millions.All because of that dead girl on a couch.
>>537875788>god created a pair of walking apes and told them not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, lest they perish. but they did so anywayHe knew that they would do that before he created them because he's all knowing. He created them and then punished them for doing what he knew they would do.
>>537875745Its almost like they actually didnt believe in god so they purposely stopped being good
>>537875819>ackyshually lacey fletcher being eaten alive by maggots and rats was a good thing because it made people love their kids more or somethingdie
>>537875640>I've literally spent dozens if not hundreds of hours arguing with you stupid fucks about this>you stupid fucks>youOP, you are the stupid fuck. God made you and gave you a burning desire to argue with strangers on the internet, and you don't even get reddit clout out of it. It's no wonder you'd be mad at God, he made you a cunt.
>>537875852It doesn't matter if they believed in god or not. What matters was god saw lacey suffering for 10+ years and chose to do nothing.>>537875886>a burning desire to argue with strangers on the internetBecause you won't get the fuck out of other peoples lives and you demand everyone believe the same demented shit you do
>>537875873It’s not a good thing you fucking idiot. It’s a tragedy, but using reductionist high school “arguments” against god because of suffering and evil is retarded. All of this shit boils down to the problem of evil, which is solved.
>>537874353What gets me is that these boomer fucks could have done literally anything else and it would have turned out better for both parties. And how did nobody notice? How did the boomers not react to the rotting stench? And why did they call 911?>tfw when there are way too many unanswered questions
>>537875819>Everyone who knows about this case will be touched and affected by it, and, god willing will move forward with the will to make sure here death wasn’t cor nothing.Almost everyone who has learned about this case aside from people directly involved in the proceedings has already forgotten it.They were shocked and horrified right up until their cat started throwing up or their dog started barking at another dog and they clicked back into their ordinary daily do.Don't be a fucking child.
>>537875852
We're not in the garden of Eden anymore you dumb shit. God didn't allow this to happen. We did.
>>537874353>durrr if god real why bad thing happen.fuck off retard, nobody has time for your junior high school dumbfuckery.read a fucking book instead of asking dumb ass questions here.people have been thinking about this for literally thousands of years, you aren't as smart as you think you are for asking this basic bitch fucking questionfuck offI'm sick of you fucking morons
>>537875981Stop projecting. There are things in peoples lives that stay with them forever.
>>537874353Natalists look at this and go 'ZAMN!!! I GOTTA PROCREATE ON THIS WORLD!!! ZAMN!!!"extra baffle points if the Natalist believes in an Eternal Hell which they believe that their child could possibly end up in.
>>537876111If it is so basic, then try to answer it.
>>537875819>born to save>not that girl though o algo
>god is real and great, surely he will stop me from stabbing myselfVs>god please give me the strength to do Good.Which one of them believes, and which of them is lying.
>>537874353>Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her deathIf she took the vaccine everything would have been fine. It's your fault vaccine deniers. You killed her.
Free will.
>>537876181Her soul is saved, dalit.
>>537874470So god asks for abortions to bring his angels to him faster
>>537876206How does free will necessitate such gore?Free will could also be defined as 'press button A or Button B'.
>>537875926>Because you won't get the fuck out of other peoples lives and you demand everyone believe the same demented shit you doBy all means, give a specific example of ME doing this. I'll wait. Honestly, you're no better than some MIGA chud the way you cluelessly lump people together.
>>537876248methinks you're the jeet here, worshipping death and torture and what not, but hey at least "her soul is saved".
>>537876272So which vaccine did you take with your free will?
>>537876272>How does free will necessitate such gore?It doesn't necessitate it. You have a choice.
>>537874353Thank you now I can't sleep
Well I read the entire wikipedia article and god damn that is just fucked to hell. Makes you not even want humanity to go on when people can do such evil shit like this.
Religion is not a toy
>>537876324I am unvaccinated.>>537876327I am asking why you believe that 'Free Will' has to necessarily mean that the choices from which to choose from have to be so macabre. And if you say that you believe that it doesn't, then your worldview seems quite arbitrary in its grotesqueness.
>>537874353>How do you expect people to not only believe God is real but also performs miracles, and yet he allowed this to happen?easythe explanation is demons are real too ( which they are ) but that god they tell you about is not the god they tell tales of thats when its all starting to make sense earth is some kind of neutral proving ground
>>537876436How are you unvaccinated? There was a free will choice of which brand you wanted to take.Are you trying to tell me that even when given multiple choices, there are still unlisted choices available?
>>537876436>I am asking why you believe that 'Free Will' has to necessarily mean that the choices from which to choose from have to be so macabreBecause it's free will, retard. When you play GTA why do you run around murdering people instead of just walking around the city?
>>537874810Doesn't look like that little girl had any of god's free will. I doubt this is what she wanted. So yeah...what about HER free will? Where did god take THAT into account? It doesn't look like god cared about HER free will at all.
>>537876451any being who would force conscious beings into a state less than Godhood , is evil.
>>537874353Her parents failed her, it was doubtful that they were real Christians
For every person who asks, "Why doesn't God force me to be good?" Don't worry. Palantir and the CIA and the Nation of Israel have heard your pleas. They are ready to step in and restrain you, train you, reform you, punish you in God's stead. Mankind will create the conditions you crave. Everything will be perfect once you have no choice but to be good. A good worker, a good soldier, a good citizen. Only good!
>>537876540>I deserve to be a God Lol
>>537876498>>537876499You would say that a Human cannot have the choice to shrink down and jump into someone's arteries at a whim or break the laws of physics. Yet, you would still hold that free will is intact here.So, it is either you believe that this specific level of grotesqueness is essential for free will, or you believe that such grotesqueness is unnecessary.
>>537874353This is to this day, one of the crazier things that I have ever read. Why is it that this things only happen in America. It's fucking crazy how many cases like this one are out there.
>>537876590Every conscious viewpoint is a God.And even in the worst case where it were not true, the ideal would still hold. Limitation is a game. Someone gets dementia, and all of the sudden all of their moral reasoning goes out of the window. Flaws are a game.
>>537875091>>537875500its on wikipedia, it must be true !
>>537876640Free will means you have the ability to partake in evil. Simple as.
>>537876691>Every conscious viewpoint is a GodNo it's not. That's a dumb statement.
>>537876640That’s really interesting and all but I was just wondering… what if there was no option to not take the vaxx, for whatever reason?Would you consider your vaccination a choice of free will?
>>537874353Sinful man did this, not God. God once flooded the earth and humanity built a giant tower in response to avoid His judgement again. God could instantly judge the world again and bring an end to all suffering but His judgement is impartial and would the judge the great and the small, including everything you have ever done. Are you ready to face such a judge?
>>537876151By the same logic any antinatalist sees this and says "ZAMN!!! GOTTA KEEP LIVING IN THIS WORLD!!!"
>>537874353it does make you wonder whether humans were a mistake or not.pretty sure autistic people live the most miserable lives.
>>537876451All the time while this omnipotent god who supposedly loves you is allowing these demons to torture you. Chrsitcucks are mentally deranged jew raped slaves.
>>537876739By that definition, such a thing is fulfilled even with 2 options. A good option and an evil option.Your own definition implies that the grotesqueness is extraneous and arbitrary.>>537876794No. It is based in Morality and Logic.1. The Moral side of it which survives no matter what is true. That Limitation is a game, and that the only Moral way for a conscious being to exist is as a sovereign and free God.2. The only thing which answers the question of 'Why am I me instead of you?" is that each conscious viewpoint is a separate and eternal God each with one's own locally solipsistic reality.>>537876837Do you consider the things which your worldview would say are physically impossible, to be transgressions of free will?
>>537876186
>>537876206Free will of who, in this specific instance?I assume you're saying the free will of the parents since the autistic woman had cognitive decline and wasn't capable of having free will.So are you ok with God damning her to such suffering just as a test on the free will of the parents here? If the answer is yes doesn't the other anon have a point to say God is evil?
>>537877046when I say 'Limitation is a Game' I am combatting the usual servile mentality which says "oh but people are not smart enough to be gods'.It is not logically impossible to imagine someone with a higher IQ. Expand that. Limitation is a game.
How did she become a vegetable? She was in school and going to the gym, what happened to her????
>>537874520>Torturing children is all part of god’s planHe literally commands the slaughter of infants in the Bible but christcucks1) Do not read the Bible2) They are virtually all following the Marcionite heresy and believe the OT God is some other deity or evil, and it doesn't matter because Buddy Jesus is the real GodThis goes for more than just the baby slaughter, the OT might as well not exist aside from what they interpret as "anti-gay" verses. Creationists care about Genesis. That's about it.The only important part about the OT for american christcucks is that it tells them to give money to Israel.
>>537877046Not at all.Are you going to answer my question?
>>537877076Are you implying that if she was able bodied and of sound mind, it would have been her fault if she had been starved to death? Are you implying it's not true free will if the body and brain are capable of being damaged and made non-functional?
>>537877176The question I asked, answers your question while also providing a rebuttal.In your worldview, your free will to turn into a man with four arms is violated when you are born. Or to be born as something else.It is equivocal to the vaccination question. Being vaccinated in the scenario which you described would not be a choice of free will.As is in your worldview, being born as a Human instead of an Alien. Or as a man with brown hair instead of blonde hair.
>>537877046>blah blah blah Free will means you can partake in evil. Simple as. >It is based in Morality and LogicNo it's not and, sorry, no one deserves to be a God and that's especially so for a midwit like (You). You're sperging
>>537876451>the explanation is demons are real tooWhy does an all powerful all good god allow "demons" to cause things like this? Are they more powerful than him?
>>537876575>it was doubtful that they were real ChristiansDoes them not being "real christians" means it was okay for god to stand by and allow Lacey, who was completely innocent in all this, to die in the manner she did?
>>537877368Okay… what was the point of asking me that question if you were going to ignore my answer and say I think the opposite?We don’t need o be filling out captchas if both sides of this conversation are happening exclusively in your head.
>>537876892How did she get COVID if she never left the couch?
>>537874353Religious people aka people who are stubborn to believe something that they themselves cannot verify are sociopaths. This is not rare. 90% of people are sociopath which is why they can justify everything including killing their own. Religion was never about morality. It is a recruitment agency for willing sociopaths. Have you seems fucking Christian Zionist?
>>537876847>Sinful man did this, not GodThe question was why didn't God intervene when the person suffering was not at fault whatsoever. You are just dodging the question.
>>537877376Alright. You said free will means you can partake in evil.So by your definition, such would hold even if the options were simply 2, 'Good and Evil Option'. One Good Button. One Bad Button. With any further grotesqueness being extraneous and arbitrary.You say that no one deserves to be God. Why do you say this? If you appeal to physical limitations, then I would say that Limitation is Game. It is not logically impossible to imagine someone with a higher IQ. Expand that. Boltzmann Brains which are perfectly intelligent. Limitation is a Game.
>>537874353>Her body fused to the fiber of the leather couch cushion, which had been worn down into a deep depression, and she was covered in urine and feces, and maggots lived inside her knotted brown hair and inside her pressure ulcers. She suffered starvation and bone infections, leading to sepsis, which was listed as her official cause of death. Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her death>COVID-19Kek, they can't let it go. Guys, it was covid that killed her, nothing to see here.
>>537877076>Free will of who, in this specific instance?Humanity. >So are you ok with God damning her to such suffering just as a test on the free will of the parents here?God didn't damn her and what happened isn't a test of her parents. You're parroting dumb shit without thinking deeply into the ideas they present.
>>537875053If youre logically inconsistent, why should we accept your arguments at face value?
>>537874353just needs a bit of a hosing down first
>>537874500Checked. Well colour me demoralized. Guess ill vote for democrats from now on. Anyone else feeling sleepy?
>>537877481Why didn't you intervene? And don't say "Because I'm not God." You put the expectation of intervention on God the same way I am putting it on you. We have both independently decided that's the way it's supposed to be. And I think you should have intervened.
>>537877503>sperg sperg spergFree will means that people have the ability to partake in evil acts. >sperg sperg spergYou don't deserve to be a God and you have no ability to fathom what omnipotency holds. Simple as.
>>537874353At one time, that was a pretty nice couch.Sofa king comfy.
>>537877615And I am demonstrating you the logical consequence of your definition.You blatantly just appealed to 'ability'. As I explained, limitation is a game.
>>537874353>people do evil therefore no GodThis is the worst presentation of the problem of evil by the way as the answer is so obvious, though the "problem" has been solved for ages.
>>537874915For me, it’s > She retained feces and couch cushioning both under her fingernails and in her stomach contents, showing she had attempted to save herself by eating her surroundings before dying on the couch during or shortly after Clay and Sheila vacationed for the holidays.
>>537877608>Why didn't you intervene?Because nobody but her parents knew about it until she died. What an idiotic question. Are you seriously asking me that with a straight face?
>>537877721>I am demonstrating you the logical consequence of your definition.Nope. You're sperging about arguments that only exist in your head because you're too low IQ to take them as they actually are. >You blatantly just appealed to 'ability'Nope. You sperged and are trying to box things in to a preconceived framework.
>>537874599They will be on probation for five years after they serve twenty year sentences.Reading comprehension is for everyone.
>>537877926>20 years fpr allowing your mentally retarded daughter to be eaten alive by maggots
>>537877872Could you elaborate on what problems you find with my response to you?
>>537874923What the fuck
>>537874353>Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her death; where she contracted the virus is unknown.Which one of you fuckers was it?
>>537874353What was the expectation of the parents here? That they puppeteer her to get her to walk?She wasn't chained to the couch. She could have gotten up on her own well before her legs atrophied and she fused to the upholstery.Would it have been better, from a legal perspective, to kick her out of the house?
>>537877787Sounds like an excuse. You need to own up to your failure (in my eyes, based on my expectations of you). If you can decide what God is supposed to do, why can't I decide what you are supposed to do? You and I are closer in capacity than you and God. "But I'm not capable of what you're asking!" Stop making excuses! I'm the one making demands here.
>>537874353>>Christian parents They prayed for this
>>537878100>If you can decide what God is supposed to do, why can't I decide what you are supposed to do?Am I an omniscient all knowing being? Moreover, am I am omniscient and all knowing being you define as being wholly good?
>>537878078If they're not able to meet her needs at home then they needed to pay for her to be at a facility or receive home care from someone who could This is disgusting to do to your own blood, your child. They should be killed.
>>537877335>Are you implying that if she was able bodied and of sound mind, it would have been her fault if she had been starved to death?Of course. She could simply get up from the couch and go make some food if that was the case. Apparently she did try to get out of the couch when the pain was too much as evidence by her chewing on the sofa but her body was too fucked up at that point.>Are you implying it's not true free will if the body and brain are capable of being damaged and made non-functional?Not sure what you mean but no I'm not saying that. In order to have "free will" you need to surpass a certain threshold of cognition which she didn't.>>537877523>Humanity. We're talking about a specific case so which of the people in that situation are you talking about?>God didn't damn her and what happened isn't a test of her parents. What do you mean God didn't damn her? She had the mind of a potato she couldn't even get out of the couch for 10+ years and just shat herself there. Are you saying she had free will?>You're parroting dumb shit without thinking deeply into the ideas they present.Not parroting anything I'm just using basic logic to reach a conclusion and you are being dodgy and vague and now resorting to insults. If you were secure of your position you wouldn't be scared to go all the way with this line of thinking.
>>537874353>allowed this to happen?Kill yourself jew, and fuck satan.
>>537874353she voted for this
>>537878175She was an adult though. I mean if your roommate does the same thing, does that make you guilty of murder because you didn't start eviction proceedings?
>>537877993You're sperging. You want to argue:>Why can't God just make a universe where free will means something else that doesn't entail evil And>Why can't I be a God when I can imagine having the ability to be oneThe answer to the first is that free will entails the ability to allow evil and evil is generally seen not as an entity in itself but an absence of good. The answer to the second is that you're begging the question by assuming omnipotence is something you grasp when it isn't definition. It's pretty much "if I were God I'd do this and I deserve to be God because I just do". That's standard satanic pride and if you read more instead of convincing yourself parroting easy answers makes you smart you'd be better equipped for these conversations.
>>537874353OK, so she was "autistic" who refused to leave the house and spent 24 hours a day on the couch playing video games. And the parents are to blame? Sure, I guess it would be their responsibility to smack her across the face and tell her to get the fuck out and get a job. Sooo....50/50
>>537874353>Oh how evil look how evil oh my it's so evil >Evil exists oh how horrible>God must not exist just evil no God or good or goodness just bad and evil
>>537878410She was a nonverbal autistic with the mind of a toddler. desu if a hell exists you deserve to go there just for this post
>>537878198>We're talking about a specific caseFree will applies to humanity in general when it comes to the ability to apply the idea of evil to their deeds. >What do you mean God didn't damn her?Her parents failed to take care of her as did the social order that exists as we've made it. >Not parroting anything I'm just using basic logicYou are parroting and your version of "logic" is being used to uphold a preformed conclusion that isn't even your own. This is lazy and an example of having a middling IQ.
>>537878535You didn't answer the most important question. Do you think that the girl with a potato brain had free will?>isn't even your ownNigger I am here using my own mind to engage with you and I'm figuring it out as I go. Nothing is "preformed". Get over yourself. Let's go and answer the other question because I think it's super super retarded if your answer is that she has free will and I wasn't even considering going down that path.
>>537874353>>537874470>>537874500>>537874944Asking the wrong questions >>537874531This guy gets it. Whatever happens on this god-forsaken rock is on us. You can walk and cry over it or you can dry your eyes, wash your cock, and step out into the world to try and impose some order onto it
>>537878833>You didn't answer the most important questionI did. I'm not arguing that bad things only happen to people that deserve them and if we're speaking about free will such applies to humanity as a whole even in a case where a given individual lacks the ability to take care of themselves. This is why "neglect" is itself a crime.>I am here using my own mindSadly it has been found wanting. Parroting will fool a lot of people so you can take solace in that if you want; won't change the fact you're a midwit though.
>>537874353I sae that video a while ago. Very sad. Poor girl had maggots eating her alive.
>>537875076Why does it matter to you so much if he believes in God? This shit would happen regardless. Why is your belief so much more important than his? What about mine? Does mine matter to either of you?
>>537874353I've been radicalised against boomers recently
>>537879288>Why does it matter to you so much if he believes in God?Because you people want to make your belief in god everyone else's problem
>>537874353Also strange how the town is called>SlaughterBring ya daughter to the Slaughter.
>>537879468I dont believe what you assume. But you seem to want to make your disbelief his problem
>>537875640And you still don't get that free will is a thing. I wish God would take your free will away so you could really understand what that means as opposed to just flushing it down the drain by being told what to think and do by whoever pays for time on streaming.FREE WILLGo fuck off and do what you want and i hope someone does what they want to you as well. More than anything, I pray for God to reveal himself to you that you might know humility before Him and that his Love change you for the better.
>stating that they had not wanted to be caregivers when they became parents.same, too risky
>>537874719Yahweh(the bad god) is the reason why all things happen.
>>537879650you're something else. only god can judge me you stupid faggot
>>537879037Why don't you answer directly yes or no instead of hiding behind vagueries?So you think the potato woman who is drooling herself and isn't even able to get out of the couch to take a piss has free will. What a pathetic nonsensical position to have. What Will does she have? Nothing at all. Just like a comatose person being kept alive by machines doesn't have a Will whatsoever.Your worldview is nonsensical and laughable. You hide behind personal attacks and other cringe sophistry to avoid facing the absurdity of your belief: that a vegetative comatose person has a "will". What does "will" even mean if the person doesn't have control of her mind or body whatsoever? What an absolutely RETARDED position don't ever talk about iq ever again.
>>537879650Was it this girl's free will decision to be raped and killed by Epstein? She loved Jesus. She did everything right.
>>537879807>Why don't you answer directly yes or no Because you're attempting to frame the discussion in a way so as to confirm your bias. However, I pointed out that I'm not arguing that bad things only happen when people deserve them to and free will is a general factor applicable to humanity as a whole. You want the fact she didn't deserve what happened to her to somehow prove me wrong but the fact is that it doesn't. >So you think the potato woman who is drooling herself and isn't even able to get out of the couch to take a piss has free will. See what I mean? Also, the fact you're dehumanizing her says all most people need to know about "your" beliefs and where they lead. >sperg sperg spergYou're low IQ.
>>537875050God set humanity up to fail by baiting them.
>>537874470>>537874810Goyslave syndrome. Whatever is done to them is acceptable according to the belief that whatever has power over them is divine/sacred/unquestionable. It's why when Jews piss on them they say "thank you".
>>537879879Free will allowed Epstein to not only do what he did but be enabled to do so by dozens, if not hundreds, of people. No one is arguing bad things only happen to bad people and good things only happen to good people.
>>537877745GOD LELOVES YOU:D
>>537874353Like you actually care, in the first place.
>>537880022>Dodging the questions for the nth timeBravo. If free will is "a general factor" (nice platitude) it means it's also particular. If it's particular then you, me and that woman we all have free will in your irrational worldview.So basically you think free will is some magical thing that is detached from your mind and body. A potato person unable to think or move her body has "free will". What in the fuck does the word "will" even mean to you?She can not will her mind or her body to do anything. How does she have a will? And it's free from what exactly?It's so retarded lmao no wonder you have to cope with vagueries and resort to personal attacks I would do the same if trying to defend such an absurd position. Imagine thinking a comatose vegetative person has a WILL let alone a FREE WILL. What the fuck lmao what a dumbass
>>537874353Its all part of gods plan, he works in mysterious ways
>>537880121>Free will allowed Epstein to not only do what he did but be enabled to do so by dozensThe question was about the girl's free will you idiot. Or did only Epstein's matter to God
>>537880238I care more than you do. I care enough to not make up reasons why it's actually not that bad.
people usually confused freedom and abundance from god's universe as good.A good god is a category error.
If I was a horrible and evil person and there was no afterlife, what sort of propaganda would best benefit me to spread to everyone else?>That nothing matters in the real world, no punishment or grudge should ever be held, “turn your cheek”, “the meek will inherit the earth”, “it was gods plan”, “it was a test by God”, “god will judge and you shouldn’t”, etc. etc. QAnon tier platitudes to make sheep comfortable in shirking the uncomfortable but necessary duty that is extinguishing evil immediately.Christianity is most likely just evil peoples’ way to fool others into being docile and enabling during the limited time we all have on earth, with a “promise” that punishment always comes “eventually”.
>>537880502These christians and their “good god” are a joke
>>537874923the best part is when the rescued kids went to a foster home and got molested and abused again, praise god
>>537880298>Dodging the questionI'm not and I've explained why, retard. >nice platitudeThat's not a "platitude" but I'll let you off the hook because you're ESL. >So basically you think free will is some magical thing that is detached from your mind and body. No, retard. This has been explained to you. 1) I'm not arguing bad things only happen to people that deserve it. You want me to do so because you think such proves you right when the fact is you're just attempting to frame a discussion in a certain way. 2) Free will applies to humanity in general and not just individuals. Thereby, something bad can happen to someone who doesn't deserve it because the free will of others allows and/or precipitates it. As was pointed out to you, this is why "neglect" itself is a crime (i.e. it is a crime to choose not to aid a person without the capability to care for themselves). >potato personAgain, dehumanization is exemplary of "your" beliefs and what they lead to. >sperg sperg spergAgain, my argument doesn't depend on her being able to exercise her own free will and this has been explained to you several times. The fact you keep arguing as if it does instead of actually addressing what I've written is evidence you're not a very smart person.
>>537880298If I play with a piece of fabric in front of a cat the cat's eyes will dilate and it will play with the fabric. Even a religious person will say the cat has a "will" but not a "free will". But in order to have a "free will" first you need to have a "will". She didn't even have a will to begin with she was just sitting in the same place for 10 years being eaten alive shitting herself. Basically a vegetable.The logical argument would be to say she was a test by God to the parents and to mankind. But no, instead the godbrain retarded mind shuts down and just repeats incessantly "free will free will" as if these two magic words explain everything away and no further thinking is required.
>>537874923Who looks at those two amd thinks yep, they seem nice and friendly people who love children...
>>537880696She started sitting there when she was 21, she had free will for 20 years or so
>>537880696>She didn't even have a will to begin withNot arguing she did, retard. Holy shit you're dumb.
>>537874353I'm confused. I don't see anything stating she was either an invalid or disallowed from getting up from the couch.
>>537880740That doesn't even matter though. Sure, he can't prove she didn't make choices that didn't lead her to where she ended up but that's a useless discussion. The point is that humanity in general has free will and this enables us to make choices that harm others. No one is arguing bad things only ever happen to those that deserve them, as he wants to pretend, but rather the fact free will exists means bad things will be inflicted upon those that don't deserve them.
>>537875783>Why does there need to be a lifetime of pain at all?There doesn't but you chose pain because some lady ate an apple. Now enjoy your suffering and death and likely an eternity of hell because you didn't cope well enough or weren't born to Christian parents who taught you the correct religion.
>>537874353God cared more about the killers free will so there's nothing he could have done.
>>537880809A demon was attacking her and vampirizing her life force, christian parents did nothing but compartmentalize something they didn't want to deal with and let her rot.
>>537880930Um sweetie, lady ate apple therefore you are gonna burn in hell for eternity
>>537874923>>537880705I'd like to see some of those children's journals, holy shit
>>537880845It was stated that she never had free will tonwhich i replied she didnt start sitting there till 21. To me I was saying she did have free will before she sat there and should have gotten up to clean herself at least once a year. I've been in a state where I've not bathed or showered for a year but I still rinsed my pits and balls and only have a light issue with my skin from it. Might even be 2 years. 7 months in prison included.
>>537880665>not arguing bad things only happen to people that deserve it. You want me to do so becauseHey mind reader noone cares about it being "deserved". You are just dodging and dodging coming up with retarded arguments in your head that I haven't made at all. The question is simple, does the COMATOSE VEGETABLE woman who SHITS HERSELF and DOESNT MOVE have a WILL? It's not even about free will at this point that's how baboonish your worldview is.>applies to humanity in general and not just individualsHoly idiot.... Did I just read this sentence right from the guy going on and on about muh iq? If something is universal then it's by necessity also particular. WTF retard... I'm starting to feel dumb for replying.>something bad can happen to someone who doesn't deserve itWho cares. Noone is talking about "deserve" or good and bad. I'm just wanting you to say it with your chest and say it proud: "The comatose vegetable woman has a friggin FREE WILL"> the free will of others allows and/or precipitates itThat was my initial point when I wasn't taking into consideration that anyone would be retarded enough to argue about this woman having free will. That line of thinking was already addressed.>my argument doesn't depend on her being able to exercise her own free willShe is not able to because she doesn't have it. She doesn't even have a WILL let alone a free will.Let me guess you also think niggers have free will? Get your head checked dude
>>537880740>>537881087Yea I'm saying that from the point she had a cognitive disability and turned into a potato who sat on the same place shitting herself she was basically without a will. Did you also shit yourself and stared at the wall in a vegetable state the whole time? Not the same thing.
>>537874353He gave us free will to choose to be moral or immoral and unfortunately people use it to do things like this. He allows this to happen because he allowed our free will.
>>537881187>You are just dodging and dodgingThe fact you're too retarded to respond to what's written and keep insisting on attacking a strawman indicates you're dumb, anon. >does the COMATOSE VEGETABLE woman who SHITS HERSELF and DOESNT MOVE have a WILL? Does the argument I'm making entail that she must? No. Simple as. >sperg sperg spergYou're an idiot, lol.
>>537881392>t.
>>537880569Yes, pretty much. There's strong agruments for god but almost all of them by nature make a semitic god an impossibility, not just improbably, but categorically wrong.My own brain has been poisoned by christianity, but I see myself more as an alchemist these days.
>>537881500How's that?
>>537881087You're just inviting him to split hairs, anon. He doesn't know when she lost the ability to care for herself and neither do we. The fact is at some point she lost that ability and this is why her parents were charged and convicted of neglect. The fundamental point is that free will itself gives us the ability to not only condone but also inflict evil on one another. By this, not everything that happens to someone will be a result of his/her own free will but rather the fact they exist in a world where free will is present. For some reason the Portuguese retard can't compute this and keeps trying to argue about the woman's free will.
>>537881683I could explain to you how your argument is nonsense but you wouldn't hear me anyway and I've probably already done so on /his/ many times.
>>537881495>Does the argument I'm making entail that she must?YES. Idiot. You can't say free will is a universal and then say it doesn't have to apply to the particulars. Goddamn what a retard.
>>537881625>but I see myself more as an alchemist these days.based
>>537881392Is your god omnipotent or do you have free will? You can only pick one
>>537881798You are correct but don't bother trying to explain this to them. It's like asking a nigger how he would feel if he skipped breakfast.
>>537881718>Dodge number 6 gorillionDude say it loud and say it proud. "The comatose woman had free will". YES OR NO? Stop dodging.
>>537881757>YESIt doesn't as has been explained to you. Instead of addressing what I've written you've chosen to get hung up. >You can't say free will is a universal and then say it doesn't have to apply to the particularsOne more time: free will is granted to humanity as a whole. This means that I can decide to do something terrible that affects you negatively even if you lack the ability to stop me from doing so. I'm not arguing that such makes my actions just or entails in anyway that you deserve to have what I've inflicted happen to you. Just because you had no ability to exercise free will so as to stop the actions I have chosen which affect you negatively doesn't magically mean free will wasn't a factor--I was exercising my free will and this is what harmed you. Do you understand?
>>537881866>ALL CAPS!Lol, retard.
Basic google definition of free will>Free will is the capacity of individuals to make choices and control their actions independently of outside influence, coercion, or prior physical events.So I want a clean yes or no to the question; if a comatose woman shitting herself staring at a wall 24/7 has this capacity? Imagine replying to me 20 times and never giving the yes or no to this simple question.
>>537882236>not everything that happens to someone will be a result of his/her own free will but rather the fact they exist in a world where free will is presentWhy can't you understand this? Holy shit you're dumb.
>>537874353>Our daughter is rotting and shitting and pissing on the couch should we try to get help?>nah let's go on a vacationboomerniggers are subhumans.
>>537874353LolAdditionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her death
>>537882336Ok so God allowed an innocent woman to suffer horribly because of the free will of others, And this doesn't make him evil because _______?
>>537875153why does it look like trump
>>537881718Yea she decided to be this way because others decided to be nasty to her. Free will is a cunt for real.
>>537882112>free will is granted to humanity as a wholeNIGGER if free will is granted to humanity as a whole it means every human has free will.What don't you get about that?If I say every orange that exists is orange then when I ask you if orange number 37 is orange the answer is YES because they're all orange.Honestly you can't be this retarded you are just air punching some argument you made up in your head about who "deserves" what when I don't care about that.Just follow the logical conclusion of your statement>free will is granted to humanity as a wholeand answer YES OR NO to the question>does the comatose woman shitting herself staring at the wall 24/7 have free will?Let's go YES OR NO
>>537882236None of have free will in that instance as we cant do what we want to because of cops
>>537882390Are you evil if you teach someone fundamental chemistry and down the road they use that knowledge to create chlorine gas they unleash in a subway?
Christians are effectively the MOST EVIL people in your country, just a step above a Jew.
>>537874810thats cool and all, but cant we have that same exact ideology but without jews being involved? why cant we have a germanic/european god who basically identical?
>>537882501>NIGGER if free will is granted to humanity as a whole it means every human has free willNo it doesn't and free will can be taken away as we age due to something like dementia. The capacity for free will can also be tortured away.
>>537882688So she didn't have free will then?
>>537874923They were not christians you moron
>>537881861Looks like you were right
Look at the mother and explain too me how no one realized she was a psycho prior to the murder
>>537874353>She was left to rot in her boomer parent's house until her maggot and shit covered body gave in >"Heheh we never thought of ourselves as caregivers when we wanted to raise children"I seriously wouldn't blink if every boomer was rounded up, crucified upside down, skinned alive on top of anthills, and doused in kerosene before being set on fire in that exact sequence. I can't look at someone who was born from 1945 to 1969 and think they're people. I just can't do it. Like you'd think it's bad enough that they're the reason why nobody can make a standard living on a single income anymore, but this takes the cake so far.
>>537882463Exactly. Free will means you're going to have unjust things inflicted upon you at some point but it doesn't necessarily entail you'll have the capacity to fend them off even if you have the ability to enact your own free will. >>537882810"Not everything that happens to someone will be a result of his/her own free will but rather the fact they exist in a world where free will is present" (>>537881718/>>537882336)It's fucking hilarious that you can't understand this. You really are a dumb one.
>>537874353Death penalty for the chud parent
>>537874353>cognitive health declinewhy the fuck do they keep saying this but refuse to elaborate
>>537882810Note that the posts highlighted here (>>537883280) was directed at you and clearly laid out that which was quoted. You ignored it despite the fact you responded to the other, which wasn't addressed to you, in order to "REEEEEEEE".And you accuse me of avoiding things? Lol.
>>537875162That's literally the basis of Gnosticism, the only faith that's ever rung true for me. Still not a joiner, though.
>>537874353>god makes you a robot
>>537883575>never read any gnostic works>only seen it in memes >totally not a "joiner"Lol
Here is what follows from answering yes/no to the question of her having free will:>yeslmao>noIf an omnipotent God exists this entails he is ok with allowing the suffering of innocent people (innocent bc they are not capable of making choices + he could simply kill them) and what would be the reason for him to allow that? Is it to teach a lesson to the parents and to mankind so their souls can grow from the experience or is it because he enjoys it? Regardless of the reason it's up to you to contend with the idea that you get on your knees and pray to a God that created such conditions. He couldn't come up with something else? Why would I worship such a cringe God?
>>537874353I don’t understand? She wasn’t catatonic/brain damaged/locked in and she just chose to sit on a couch for 12 years until she died? Was she some kind of idiot
>>537883795>Here is what follows from answering yes/no to the questionYou missing the point and pretending you won an argument. Again: >"Not everything that happens to someone will be a result of his/her own free will but rather the fact they exist in a world where free will is present"The fact you can't understand and interact with the above outs you as a retard.
>>537883280>>537883472Sorry I didn't read all that. I asked you a yes or no question for 30 replies did you answer it yet? Still waiting. By the way if you asked me any yes or no question I would just answer it. I don't dodge shit.
>>537883896What's the point of placing a human without free will in a world where free will is present? Sounds kinda fucked up!
>>537874500cuckstianity did away with reincarnation as a concept because knowing we reincarnate runs the risk of goys mass suiciding to avoid being slaves, like in today's world, that's a cognitohazard btw but the point is reincarnation is important to understand this why bad thing happen. the truth is souls choose their lives. the soul of that girl likely chosed that traumatic death because it's the starting point of a journey in which through many lives she'll overcome said trauma. we are all doing this, we all have some deep buried trauma from past lives or whatever that conditions our current personality, it's how the matrix is made>>537875056that's just guiltriping, it resonates with retards with victim complex, this is one of the big failures of cuckstianity
>>537874353>How do you expect people to not only believe God is real but also performs miracles, and yet he allowed this to happen?War in Heaven, my brother. Lucifer and the fallen have come to earth to make war against God and his creations.Out of jealousy, by the way. Just another innocent nobody who got whacked by demons. Collateral Damage. We all die, a goodly number of us will die in agony. This is the way of Creation.If our Atheist friends have a better idea why don't you fucking get to it?
>>537883907>Sorry I didn't read all thatExcept you did because you've responded to posts where the point was just that which weren't even addressed to you, lol. >I asked you a yes or no questionNo, retard. You forced a false dichotomy and had it explained to you why it was a strawman of the point being mad. You were then told you were doing things that way because you thought you were right/wrong no matter how the question, which wasn't even valid to the point, is answered. You then admitted just that with this post: >>537883795. Holy fuck you're dumb, anon. Thanks for proving me right.
>>537875354The toybox serial killer lived in a place called Truth and Consequences.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_RayThis one's a bit of a doozy. The tape he'd play to his victims and all of the evidence and stories are fucking wild and horrendous. God is dead. God never existed.
>>537883999>responds to something he said he didn't readLol, I accept your concession. Closing the thread now. You lose.
>>537874353>yet he allowed this to happen?Judging God:You place yourself above God and sit in judgment of Him.He does not live up to the image you have created for your own ideal god.You are an idolater, and a lazy one. You don’t even bother to carve up a block of wood, you simply create a fantasy and try to immerse yourself in it.You complain about all things God does and many things He doesn’t do. It’s almost like you were created to hate Him. Like you are the bad example set forward as a warning to the simple. You kvetch and reee, but you refuse to admit any wrongdoing on your part.God himself says that the damned reject him and will never surrender their pride and change.You prove that.You want nothing to do with God or His heaven.He simply agrees with you and you get mad about it.He made a place for those who hate Him. He will leave you alone, forever. He is light, so it is dark, forever. He is love and comfort, so there is none to be found there, forever.Is God wrong about you?Then simply change your mind. Accept Jesus as your savior. Trust that He died for your sins on the cross, was buried, and rose again, exactly as it had been prophesied.Or...don’t.Either way, accept responsibility for your eternity.You won’t have it any other way.
>>537884371Cya loser think about why your worldview shattered with a yes or no question so you can do better next time and actually answer it instead of squirming round and round. We could have had so much fun if you had a bit of courage.
>>537884403Did the comatose potato woman shitting herself staring at the wall 24/7 have free will here yes or no? Now I'm curious to see if all christfags have a mental block when asked this.
>>537874353>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Lacey_Fletcher>>How do you expect people to not only believe God is real but also performs miracles, and yet he allowed this to happen? Her parents were church going christians, btwThey wree demoralized by jews in a jewish system. This type of shit wouldnt happen if the Christian churches were purged of jewish influence. All the non-remnant churches care about is money, altar calls, baptism. They dont care about the flock growing. They dont care about young men without a nice pussy to fuck to create more Christians.Destroy the jew and this type of evil will be gone.
>>537874712Curious, how many penises and testicles have been removed by the current set of living people. Like there are 8 billion humaniods or so, how many of the 4 billion men have willingly had their penis or testicles removed? 1 million? 2 million? It cant be many.This shit is jewish and the right thing to do is to destroy the jew utterly and to the last and execute any doctors that have performed this surgery.
>>537875056>page 3 of the Bible is the answer - people chose Satan, the serpent. Enjoy.Woman chose satan.And satan does his best work when the jews demoralize the woman to do things like vote, become "feminists", and execute their unborn.The jews must be destroy or the women will never be reclaimed.
>>537874353>LouisianaThat sums it up right there for you. Do you think they were getting some kind of moral or ethical education at church? LMAO. In that state you are lucky if the police don't shoot you dead in the street. It's a glorified colony and toxic waste dump.
>>537884560>ANSWER MY YES/NO QUESTIONThat question isn't applicable because x, y, z and it's pretty obvious you're just attempting to frame the discussion in a certain way because you're retarded. >YES OR NO? I explained why it doesn't apply and gives you an excuse to be disingenuous. Can you point out where I'm wrong? >YES OR NO?See above. >IF YOU HAD ANSWERED YES I AM RIGHT AND IF YOU HAD ANSWERED NO I AM RIGHTWay to prove what I said about you being disingenuous correct while once again failing to respond to the actual context. Anyway, bye>PAY ATTENTION TO ME!Didn't read but I wanted to come back one last time to point out you're a stupid faggot. The fact you lost obviously bother you so I just couldn't resist. Anyway, leaving for real this time. Have fun being a retard.
Abrahamic religion and all YWHY worship is rooted in satanic practices. There's no difference between a Christian and a kike
>>537874353>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Lacey_Fletcher>Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her death; where she contracted the virus is unknown.fakest gayest shit i've ever read
>>537879879Why do Christians make up easily debunkable bullshit, and then do shit like OP
>>537874353What honestly fucking compels people to do this sort of shit ? Like even randomly killing people for no reason, you can understand, "base" desires purely for the sake of it, but shit like that boggles the mind
>>537885113>I can't answer a basic yes or no question because... b-because... uhm... it's ahm.. you're FRAMING it!!!>I explained why, it's because of.... the FRAMElol ok dude whatever helps you copeYou think you are in a lose-lose situation by answering the question but both positions are theoretically defensible you're just too much of a coward to take a position. When you are talking about her "deserving" it you are introducing a new level of unnecessary complexity before resolving the previous problem. In order for something to be "deserved" someone has to pass a moral or legal judgement on the thing. In this case we are going to argue what we think is deserved and then wonder about what God thinks is deserved. Who fucking cares? That was never my point to begin with I don't fucking care if it's "deserved". If I walk down the street and a meteor from Alpha Centauri hits me in the head was it "deserved" well yea because I moved in front of it so I "deserve" it and maybe someone who hates me will say that I totally deserve it and someone else will disagree saying I didn't deserve it. Who cares??? Your point is a salad of retardation and it's unnecessary it doesn't go anywhere.Just answer yes or no if she has free will or not how hard can that be? Holy...
>>537874353>Additionally, she was diagnosed with COVID-19 after death, when trying to determine the cause of her death; where she contracted the virus is unknown.Welp, case closed. COVID takes another one. Stop trying to deny it, chuds.
>>537885430Narcissism
>>537884219No we don't, this world is loosh farm
>>537874353>if god real, why bad thing?Because the world is no longer perfect; it was corrupted by Man's sin.
>>537884403>trusting the being that allows devil humself to rule this worldAnd what if i don't want any eterninity at all, free will is not so free?
>>537875050But horses and zebras do rip the infants out of birthing mares and stomp them in the mother's face. Still think evil isn't an instinct in earthen creatures? What about when monkeys murder their own infants or steal other infants to throw into lagoons? Animals destroying nests and burrows despite being of the same species? Stealing food from other animals to later not eat it themselves? As creatures they do seem to satiate their wrath, pride and gluttony for blood lust. And humans are no different. No different from any life that was blown a breath of consciousness into. Thinking you're somehow special and above is nothing other than satisfying your pride under personal spirituality, and people seem to forget its quite stated in scripture: "man and beast come from and go to the same place." But not many read the scriptures other than going to mass and hearing the pauline epistles over and over again kek
>>537875153This is what JD vance pictures in his head when he's plapping his turdette
>>53787459970 - 80 year old boomers are having little 4 year old daughters now?We boomers certainly are an amazing race if nothing else. Such fecundity in a geriatric state is truly astounding.
>>537874810>it was her free will to die in the most depraved way possible
>>537886384Thank you.
>>537886255Man that’s convenient, all good is god is good, all bad is human is bad
>>537875153imagine the smell
>>537886730Leaving Adam and Eve alone in the Garden of Eden with the Tree of Knowledge waiting to ensnare them with sin is the equivalent of leaving two 5 year olds alone in a room with a loaded .357 magnum pistol with the safety off but giving them stern warnings to never touch it before you leave the room. How long do you think it will be before the gun goes off? 5 minutes? I mean they may have had adult bodies but they were newborn and totally inexperienced. What other outcome could there be?
>>537877745Boomers really left their mark on this world. Treating their handicapped child like a feral cat is next level.
She wasn't even like horribly disabled or anything. She was autistic and went catatonic
>>537875153When I was a kid there was a super fat old alcoholic lady who lived alone in a bungalow, her couch was like this, I know because one day as I walked by on my way home from school there was an ambulance there to carry her away, and some people dragged her couch out after, she had literally pissed herself on it so many times the entire couch rotted in half.
>>537875153So your telling me that they just lived with this? What the fuck is the mindset and thinking with these two i still cannot wrap my head around this case. Like yeah shit like this could maybe be excused in the fucking 50s or 60s but HOW what is the reasoning for them to allow this to continue.
>>537875852>Its almost like they actually didnt believe in god so they purposely stopped being goodNo one is good. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Our so called righteousness is filthy ragsYes her parents are evil sinners. So are we
>>537888746>allowing devil to rule this worldHoq glorious
>>537888746Including god, for if he was good he would not allow demons to fuck with us, he would not aoq j told amount suffering
>>537882441Dang, you really don't ever turn off
>>537874353> people doing X mean they believe X!!!are you fucking 12?
>>537874655A real win for Yaldabaoth
>>537889513I will turn up on your mom lmao
>>537874712the Japanese call it>Ka-muschi Ka-sacki
