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>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
What does this text mean in the 14th amendment?
In 1868 Jurisdiction meant more than simply being withing the "geographical limits" of the united states and subject to its laws as that would have applied to Native Americans who were explicitly excluded from Birthright Citizenship in the 14th amendment.

So what does "subject to the jurisdiction" mean?
Jurisdiction meant Allegiance which was separated into two groups in the 1860s and still is today, its an ancient concept that goes back all the way to the Greeks and the Code of Justinian and eventually Common Law
>Natural Allegiance: An intrinsic obligation of loyalty to the sovereign from birth.
>Local Allegiance: Owed in return for the protection provided by the sovereign during a sojourners stay.

Jurisdiction means allegiance, and allegiance of an alien present in another country is determined by domicile and that precedent set by SCOTUS goes back to The Venus (1814), The Koszta Affair (1853), Elk v. Wilkins (1883), Fong Yue Ting (1893), Law Ow Bew (1892), and finally with Wong Kim Ark in 1898.
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Wong Kim Ark supports the Trump Administrations Argument
Wong Kim Arks parents were "Permanent Residents" who were "Domiciled" in San Francisco and held "Allegiance" to the United States of America when they gave birth to Wong Kim Ark. They were not Temporary Visa Holders/Sojourners/Workers, nor were they Illegal Migrants.

To be protected under the 14th Amendment you need more than to be "subject to the laws of the united states" as was determined in Elk v. Wilkins (1884) where it was ruled that one must be "completely subject to the united states political jurisdiction" and "owing them (the united states) direct and immediate allegiance."

This was later reaffirmed in 1898 with United Sates v. Wong Kim Ark in which the word "Domicile" was used 28 times, and the word "Allegiance" was used 114 times.

What was the legal definition of "domicile" in 1898?
>Domicile: Lawful presence with the intention to stay permanently.
What was the legal definition of "Allegiance" in 1884?
>Complete/Permanent/Natural Allegiance: an intrinsic obligation of loyalty to the government from birth.
>Partial/Temporary/Local Allegiance: Owed in return for the protection provided by the sovereign during a sojourners stay.
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TOP 6 REASONS WHY SCOTUS WILL RULE IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATIONS FAVOR ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP!

1: 6 out of the 9 justices are Originalists, and the Originalist argument is the strongest one in this case.
2: They could have chosen to not put the case on the docket. SCOTUS choosing to put the case on the docket and make a ruling on the merits of the case proves that there is interest in making a ruling on this.
3: ACBs house was raided by SWAT a few weeks ago, the only reasons a leftist terrorist would do something like that is if ACB was going to vote in the Trump Administrations favor.
4: The fact that they have waited until the very last day in the 2026 session proves that there is significant debate among the justices which means the strongest argument will prevail.
5: Out of spite for Ketanji Brown Jackson who humiliated the court by suggesting that if you steal a wallet in japan as a tourist that automatically makes you a Japanese Citizen.
6: They are putting up barricades all over DC.
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Reminder that this spammer has predicted the end of birthright citizenship many times already and has been dead wrong every single time
Que coping, maximum seethe
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>>537884376
SCOTUS has made a ruling
>many times
can you link a single one of them?
>Hint: You wont
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504471152
Proof
Charging cope cannons, prepare for impact
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>>537884550
That was about the National Injunctions which was true at the time.

I could go through the entire process of explaining to you how a class action lawsuit prevented Executive Order 14160 from going into effect after the National Injunctions were struck down by SCOTUS in June in 2025 but you are brown and have an IQ below 70 so it would be like explaining nuclear physics to a gold fish.
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This thread makes spics seethe
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they probably will end it because AI and robotics means the elites who pull the courts strings don't want unlimited mouths to feed anymore
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How far back does this go? At some point it will be used to harm whites, like everything legal.
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>>537885708
Correct, the end of Birthright Citizenship for illegals and temp visa jeets is supported by Emperor level jew Larry Fink.

It is the fact that the jews who control the Zionist regime in the US support the end of Birthright Citizenship that makes brown subhumans seethe and piss their pants in fear.
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>>537885787
It could go as far back as July 9th, 1868
Or they could go as far back as 1929 (when the Green Card system was created by congress)
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>>537884189
>>537884208
But what about the holding in U.S. v. Bang Dik Ow?
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>>537885814
>Correct, the end of Birthright Citizenship for illegals and temp visa jeets is supported by Emperor level jew Larry Fink.
WTF I love illegal alien birthright citizenship now
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>>537885933
That was superseded by U.S v. We Tu Lo less than a decade later.
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So did anything fucking happen here or not? I'm not reading through a bunch of legalese drivel. Get to the fucking point.
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>>537885841
So this will retroactively remove citizenship from all the the white immigrants of the 19th and 20th centuries? Are we sure that's a win?
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>>537886039
>So did anything fucking happen here or not? I'm not reading through a bunch of legalese drivel. Get to the fucking point.
Its a schizophrenics headcanon. It will be shot down because of jurisdiction, they'll say it has to be done by congress.
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>>537885708
Oh God please be true.
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>>537886096
That's what I fucking thought.
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>>537886096
Hey, retard.
If they say
>it has to be done by congress
that would mean that they would have to create a bill like the one that was created in the 1920s for Native Americans
That means congress, senate, and the president all signing a bill that says
>Illegals and Temporary Visa Jeets are entitled to protection under the 14th amendment
That's not the win you think it is!
if SCOTUS says that congress must make the call that is a MASSIVE WIN for me, not (You).
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>>537886075
If you aren't a Heritage American who can't at a minimum trace his lineage to the Civil War then you are NOT an American
You are an INVADER
The browner the skin the more of an invader you are.
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>>537885991
Clearly I need to work on my shepardization skills. :-(
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>>537886372
Plenty of good high-skill legal immigrants.
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>>537886566
Sure buddy
Sub Saharan Africa didn't have the wheel until 1863
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>>537886372
>Heritage American
Holly cringe.
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>>537886706
They didn't even have a written language until the 1970s. And guess who translated all their idiotic clicks and grunts into writing for them? Seems like a wasted effort since they can't fucking read anyway but hey
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>>537886751
>brown hands typed this post
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>>537886751
Show your fucking tits, whore.
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>>537884189
Why do you keep posting this? No they aren't.
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>>537884189
>SUPREME COURT TO RULE 6-3 IN TRUMPS FAVOR ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP THIS MONDAY!

This would make America GREAT AGAIN.
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>>537885787
YOU'RE GOING BACK
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>>537886769
So Trump is invader. Ok got it.
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>>537884376
Thankfully it'll all be over soon and we can only hope he kills himself
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>>537884189
kek this anon spams this thread every month and is no longer considered an "anon". faggot is your new name
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>>537885303
Wait until ICE starts removing the little anchor babies from schools.

ICE has been setting up offices in California near schools to process deportations.
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>>537887306
Extremely based!
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Lost in all of this is the god awful ruling they just made in TM v. Univ. of Maryland Medical System.
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Long time Trump supporter. I voted for him to strengthen and tighten up the border to prevent additional immigration. I voted for him for cheaper gas, and strong economy. I did NOT vote for him to criminalize and deport peaceful hardworking immigrant citizens who are paying taxes, home owners and contribute to the economy. This is too far and I hope SCOTUS understands this.
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>>537884189
Beaner here from a major city. Let me tell you that almost everyone born to illegals is not useful to our economy. Their parents always send spare money back home, so they lived very poor and grew up on public assistance. They are not educated. There are no doctors, lawyers or engineers among them, least of all college grads. These kids grow up being hoodrats and stay that way into adulthood. There are exceptions, like one I know is currently in the Army. He surely will be able to stay. But his aunt is a whore that I used to see shining shoes in the train station.

It's hard to think about so many hot fucking putas being sent back home. But believe me, after the initial economic shock, it will be a massive long-term improvement to the American economy. It's like a company laying off the bottom 25% of employees based on contribution to growth. It will also stop the Democratic party in its tracks because these people are committed to voting for them.
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>>537884189
It's delulu anon that keeps predicting something that never happens kek
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>>537887718
>delulu
never heard that one before
does it come from reddit?
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>>537884189
If this birthrate citizenship bullshit goes away I'll dogeza and apologize for calling Trump a jewslave.
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>>537884189
I hope Orange nigger wins.
So I can laugh at miggers that will do NOTHING but picrel
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>>537884189
Good. But its not " Trumps " case. It is a violation of the United States Constitution being set right, again.
What's more, it is our founding documents being reaffirmed and substantiated in a way that will make it hard to violate again, in the future.
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>>537884257
>They are putting up barricades all over DC.
Look I want to believe but you do know what the date is don't you? Trumps Great American State Fair started yesterday and continued thru the 4th.
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>>537887967
Without EO 14160 forcing leftist terrorists to place national injunctions on the EO which in turn resulted in SCOTUS hearing the case the US would have gone another 120 years without making a ruling on this.
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>>537885814
He didn't say the word birthright, I'm so tired of the lying jew mouth.
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>>537886075
>So this will retroactively
No. The Law doesn't work like that. It will be going forward. Not retroactively.
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>>537885841
>my family fought in the revolutionary war
Latefags begone only ogs allowed
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>>537888272
I can trace my lineage to New Netherlands in the 1600s.
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Of course they're going to rule in favor of Trump. The entire reason they ruled against asylum seekers, saying aliens have no constitutional rights, is to set the foundation for this. It's a national security issue and the MIC isn't going to allow foreign operatives make native spies.
Neville Roy Singham lost, and hopefully we can kill his ass in the near future.
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>>537884189
this faggot kills himself when they declare birthright citizenship to be a permanent constitutional thing this monday lmao!
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>>537884257
>5: Out of spite for Ketanji Brown Jackson who humiliated the court by suggesting that if you steal a wallet in japan as a tourist that automatically makes you a Japanese Citizen.

This woman is a human humiliation ritual. She exists so that the USA can be ashamed of itself.
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>>537888435
Current estimates is that there are nearly 3 million "Birthright Tourism" babies with full US Citizenship living in China right now and the number grows by tens of thousands at a minimum each year.

That's for China alone.
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>>537886566
Then they should take their awesome work ethic and professional levrl skill sets the heck back where they come from and improve their own motherlands.
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>>537885814
>siding with king kike about anything at all
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>>537888496
Nigger lovers like you are an abberation.
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>>537887632
Stfu fucking tranny tard
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>>537884189
>IN TRUMPS FAVOR
trump is pro-birthright citizenship. he endorsed an anchor baby streetshitter for governor of goyhio
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>>537888564
Yeah I know. These retards thought they were going to slink into our military and MIC and fuck the country up. Block by block the bugs are being patched out of the game.
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Removing birthright citizenship is the most important thing. If this whole movement came to nothing in the end, it was still worth it for that one thing.
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>>537888699
Hey dumbfuck. Do you even understand the law as interpreted by OP? You're obviously too fuckig retarded to understand.
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>>537887635
Most Beaners are self deporting most don't give a fuck about the Yid Negro Lover empire called usaniastan USA is a joke country is full of Pedophiles and Incompetent mitwits ruled by kikes willing to star ww3 just bc they can let China proper.
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>>537888766
The law and constitution mean nothing in this case. National security is above all of that. When the CCP thought it was a good idea to breed chink spies as American citizens, this problem was solved. The MIC, military, and glowies aren't going to allow such a retarded game exploit. Constitution and laws be damned. Nice try though.
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>>537888314
You have to Go Back, tulipnigger.
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>>537884189
Giga based. Total shitskin deportation.
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>>537888915
The law and constitution do matter and they're going to ban all shitskin anchor babies as it should be.
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>>537889407
Yes, but they're going to do it for national security reasons first and foremost. A nation cannot have national security with a bug in the system like this.
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>>537888915
>>537889407
I'm not familiar with supreme court cases. Is it likely for them to make a leap past a ruling into an interpretation such as only certain adversarial nations being excluded from birthright citizenship?
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>>537884189
Oh HELL YEAH!

Is it retroactive to ww1 & 2?
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>>537890494
Nope. Can't make exceptions, as that allows another exploit. This exploit will be patched out. It's too dangerous to too many industries, companies, and to the US military and intelligence apparatus.
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>>537884189
It will never happen, but it’s nice to dream
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>>537884189
No birthright citizenship on stolen land
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>>537888650
He didn't say it moron the poster was lying doing jew mitosis trying to poison the well.
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>>537888785
>Most Beaners are self deporting
You just lie boldly, I'm constantly shocked and stupefied by the shitskin proclivity to deceive in such an outrightly absurd manner. Make your lies more believable.
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>SUPREME COURT TO RULE 6-3 IN TRUMPS FAVOR ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP THIS MONDAY!
I would be surprised if it even got 3 votes in favor. Gorsuch, Barrett, Kavanaugh, and probably Roberts will vote against along with the liberal justices. Likely Alito too. Thomas is gonna be the only vote in favor.
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>>537890570
>Is it retroactive
No. The law doesn't work that way.
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>>537884189
>THIS MONDAY
So are we finally getting blue beam this weekend?
Can you imagine how insane it would be, and the worldwide domino cascade of other countries enacting laws like this, if this actually goes through in America?
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bump to make browns mad
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>>537886372
If you ain't old stock on at least one side (preferably two) you ain't sheeittt
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>>537887635
Sounds pretty self-aware for a beaner. Must be rough.
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>>537884189
This isn't what I argued.
Furthermore it falls flat when you realise the original Americans were the most anti-America people there was. They literally went to war with the governing power at the time.
It isn't 'allegiance to the government', you retard, because that's a fucking tyranny.
IT IS ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH SAYS TO OVERTHROW CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS AS AND WHEN THEY EMERGE, I.E., NOW
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>>537886075
Yes cause that includes Jews.



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