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Who does the United States owe the national debt to? I don't understand how money can just exist from nothing. How can you owe debt to someone if money isn't real? How can you barrow money that doesn't exist? Every economist is a liar and talks out their ass. They just spout the same jewish bullshit they learned in college but none of it actually makes sense. Where is the money going? Is it going straight into the hands of Israel and Jews who work for the federal reserve? What if we just replaced the government and stopped sending money to Israel. Would a national debt even matter then? Would it just go away? What would it take to make money real again? Why don't we just get rid of the Jews and not pay them money they printed from nothing? Bros I went to business school. I studied finance and accounting. None of it makes an ounce of sense to me. There are people with lower education than me who are going to try to give me some kind of jewish explanation from the text book. But the national debt makes no sense to anyone.
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>>537895451
>I studied finance and accounting
No you didn't. Otherwise you would have a basic understanding of the US Treasury and it's vast bond systems.
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>>537895451
I keep explaining. My goylems, I will explain even though you are villagers from minecraft that cannot comprehend what I am saying. We will redact what we please. Including your people. Diversity is our strength. We need to segregate ourselves from filth like you. You and the blend of other nations are not like us. You are a goy. Cattle. We are G-ds chosen people. Its stated in the Bible, go look it up. Educate yourself on who gave birthrights to? It was given to Jacob not Easu! This is land is OUR land. Sing it with me. From California, to the New York Islands goy! You are the calf we barely keep alive and milk, ripe for the taking! I dont care if its based out of deceit. Blessed birthright is bless birthright. Which our people have! It is embedded in our language & in our books. We segregate our kind from yours because you are not like us. Cattle are animals that have no rights. What right? If you are not jewish, you are considered a beast. We are the humans! You are not! Do you shed a tear for chickens that get genocided because of avian flu? Do you mourn the deaths of cows in the slaughterhouse when you are eating your porterhouse steak? Of course not! I will not cry for your bitch ass! I will cry in pain when I slice your throat like the cattle you are! You are the chicken I grab by the ankles you stupid goy! A jew can take (not steal), have sexo (no consent, rape cannot be defined when you are beast) and slaughter (not murder) said beasts because you are cattle with no human rights. Am Yisrael chai! Always remind me of NPCs like you. Dumb goyim never get it. We explain & explain. Snip the tips of your benis and brand you goy like an owned animal. Do you not know this higher than you mentality? Nephesh Chayyah, you do not have. Beasts you are! With no souls! Die goyim! You dont even know the hate I have for you. Too dumb to know! Cant wait for you christians to die! Standard issue! Golden Sig P320/M7 will sit proudly next to the Golden Pager!
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You took out a loan

Pay it back.

Simple as
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>>537895539
I did, I went to business school and they would give you a bunch of hard math where you have to calculate these interest rates in Finance classes like the federal reserve does. It made no fucking sense to me. It's a waste of time and money. I'm in my late 30s and I have no fucking clue what any of it means. I honestly think Jews are just stealing.
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>>537895451
>Reciprocal system where debt adds more buffer
>Leverage loans against debt
>Have entire vassal state economy to launder correction
>Every country overvalued on more debt than actual money
>They all borrow against debt, too
>U.S. government leverages their financial up/down
>Borrow against debt of debt of debt indefinitely
>Inject more secret sauce when shit gets wonky
>Cycle repeats
Where the fuck have you been dude hiding with Saddam?
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>>537895632
From myself?
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>>537895632
No, that's what retards and normies think. But this debt has nothing to do with you taking a loan from a bank or swiping your credit card. That's what they tell you to make you feel guilty about the US debt.
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>>537895686
>honestly think Jews are just stealing
Anon, you didn't have to go to business school to learn that lesson.
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>>537895743
Just pay your debts you commie faggots. Your government and it's wars isn't free
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>>537895782
Okay. I borrowed 10 dollars from my wallet. Now I owe my wallet 12 dollars because interest. Does this make sense?
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>>537895831
Only if you don't own the wallet but rather a faceless cabal of multigenerational jew does that charges you interest.
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>>537895451
"Late stage usury" is a term you need to reflect upon.
Yes the US could not pay anything back, but that would cause everyone else to do the same thing and collapse the lending markets (which would be a good thing after a period of intense pain)
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>>537895782
I've never taken a loan. I don't even own a credit card. My parents paid for my college. I've lived debt free my entire life. I was taught that usury is wrong by my parents.
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MindGeek are behind Havana Syndrome

>>537893136

CIA have been informed
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>>537896075
Sure jan
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Just fucking get rid of the jews. Round them up and send them all to Israel. Abolish the Federal reserve. Restore the gold standard. Anyone with more than 1/4 Jew in them has to go or whatever the blood libel laws were.
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>>537895451
>Who does the United States owe the national debt to?
China? Hello?
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It is a perpetual debt/interest driven scheme where you have a group of parasites lending money into circulation that the productive members of society have to pay interest for through their enforced taxation. The reason we have it this way is because in the realm of economy in the "academic" sense is just a bunch of theoretical nonsense and trash so having a discussion about it is futile.
People will learn once they have nothing to eat.
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>>537895831
The average socialist/marxist believes that it has to be this way because of the bank out of the goodness of their hearts lends you that money that they could otherwise have invested elsewhere. This flawed reasoning of course implies that parasitism is as legitimate as a regular business where you have risks, but with usury there is none. It is math and if you don't pay you get put in prison or have your belongings taken away. The lender will get his money regardless because he has the backing of the state plus insurance from his Jew buddies which are of course a socialized loss so the taxpayer takes it.
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>>537896732
It's fucking bullshit. America became a great nation before all this stuff. We might not have been bigger than the major powers at the time but I want to go back to what we were when founded.
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>>537895451
The United States owes the debt to me. I lend it to them when I buy t-bills and get a shitty 3.5% return. This new fednigger Trump appointed central banker needs to raise rates so I get a better return.
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>>537895451
You owe it to Japan
And yes, it makes little sense if any at all

It's about the flow of liquidity in a Keynesian system. It's literally magic. Not only do you borrow from your future like its a thing, you sell/lend it, so the economy would make more moves. It's the bean counting aspect of the bread and circuses.

I think you should use these instruments rather than toss them away.
And remember

If you cant pay back a few thousands you owe to the bank, you are in trouble
If you can't pay back a few millions you owe to the bank, the bank is in trouble
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>>537899091
Barrowing money is sinful. It's wrong. The bible itself condemns it, even the Torah. You say it's only wrong to lend to a Jew, but the truth is the bible is talking about all people because we are all equal. Jews are not special cases. You are all sinners for money lending.
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>>537899260
Not lending, interest

In the Torah, usury (not a helpful loan, but one for profit) isn't allowed, that's true.

Loaning to help is allowed, but not modern banking. Meaning, you don't charge interest
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>>537899091
Not even Japan, though they are the largest foreign holder.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-who-owns-a-record-2121-trillion-of-us-debt-2018-08-21
https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt/
Most US gov debt is owed to US citizens one way or another.
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>>537899364
Any interest is wrong. You can lend money to a friend but you can't take interest or profit from that. But when we say money lending, we are talking about interest.
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>>537899364
That is retarded though. Unless it's super close family/friends, why would you loan money if there was zero interest? Most people wouldn't rent out a room or an expensive piece of equipment for free to a stranger. Why would it be any different with money?
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>>537899682
Because giving things to people or even letting them barrow money comes from the kindness of your heart. Anything else is greed and personal interest. The truth is you should not have businesses built around renting or lending things for profit. It's pure evil. Landlords are nothing but usury kikes.
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You don't know what the unholy star of Remphan is either.
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>lol
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>>537895451
>Who does the United States owe the national debt to? I don't understand how money can just exist from nothing.
Debt is owed to rich people worldwide, mostly in the US, but theres some level of international debt there, same in all countries, like theres rich french people owed money by Germany and viceversa.
Its as simple as that, rich people have more money than they can use for, so they lend it to the government. I guess thats an use.
What do you think rich people do with their trillions of surplus income after they already spend in mansions, yatchs and coke? They lend it.
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>>537899940
Gonna give a simple example.
Say GDP is 100 dollars, 50 dollars go directly to workers, 25 dollars go to the government and 25 dollars go to rich people.
The rich spend around 10 dollars in their lyfestile, invest 10 dollars mostly in construction, and then lend the other 5 to the government. Then the government can spend 30 dollars despite only earning 25, the 5 get added to a pile of debt.
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>>537899682
Because it builds a whole fake economy

Everything withers, rots, losses material and fidelity with time (anything physical). Especially food. Risk is abound, most of the time people would rather pay a chunk to retain the rest of their saving more safely.
When you don't make money from thin air, it's deflationary because things do progress and production of anything becomes more efficient. That mean those 100 shekkels can buy more next year without interest

When it's inflationary it just keeps shaking the money holders for value for the benefit of asset holders and people with better access to fake money. Not only does it impoverish the poor for the wealthy, but it creates such moral hazards it's really crazy.

I think one should be allowed to make loans for interest but that mean the risk is on you. A "run to the bank" isn't some problem to be avoided, its an inspection and if the bank fails they should be executed immediately (100% reserve, if you operate from money you don't have that risk is on you). All institutions of state should work on behalf of the person trying to withdraw money, including taking personal belongings of the bank owners if necessary, in accordance with 'lifting the corporate veil' legal doctrine
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>>537900442
**Executed
Maybe i got carried away
I mean seizure of assets, investigation, and yes, criminal punishment
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>>537900442
Your unholy, cursed species will be exterminated and your kind will burn in the lake of fire forever, juden demon.
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>>537899940
>>537900643
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>>537895451
meet me at the vague
save the day
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>>537900643
So you work for a bank

Good to know
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>>537900535
The blood of your men, women and children will run as rivers.
The air shall be filled with the screams of tortured jews.
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>>537895451
Like most things in this demonic world its a demon jew scam. Taxes are a scam. Money printing is a scam. Fractional reserve banking is a scam. Subscription everything is a scam. Insurance is a scam. Loans are a scam. Like 99% of our society is just jews scamming society to make themselves rich while doing nothing of value.
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dasd
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>>537895632
I take out a loan and then dont pay it back and biy guns and precious metals instead. Then I settle for a fraction of the debt to get it off my credit and I repeat the process. Jews are not the only ones who can play this jew game.



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