The right-wing always claims they're on the side of truth:>Truth about differences between ethnicities>Truth about differences between sexesSo why can't the right-wing admit the truth about man-made climate change?The truth is that humans are emitting lots of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, into the atmosphere. These gases are warming up the planet, and causing other climate effects. Climate change will make it harder for us to grow food and survive.But you deny that because a fossil fuel investor on the internet told you that climate change is a hoax, right?
>>537901504Bla bla bla.
>>537901504Stop crying and prepare for billions of dead shitskins>The 1877–1878 Super El Niño was the strongest event in recorded history, triggering synchronized global droughts and the Great Famine of 1876–1878, which killed an estimated 50 million people across India, China, and Brazil. While the 2026 event is projected by models like ECMWF and NOAA to rival or exceed the 1877 intensity as a "very strong" El Niño, modern food distribution and climate monitoring significantly reduce the risk of mass starvation, though the event still poses severe risks to global agriculture and weather stability.
>>537901504>europe has discovered purpleWelcome to the club cunts.
>>537901504co2 is just above the lowest level it's ever been in the past 500M yearswe're much closer to a dangerous LOW level than a dangerous high level (at a low enough level, plant respiration fails)contrary to your claims, the world is greening because plants like co2around nine times as many people die from cold each year as from heatthere is nothing alarming going on with the climate whatsoever, except that there's a crazed climate doomsday cult trying to frighten people needlesslyif you're part of the 77th brigade getting paid tax money to terrify the public, i will personally put the rope around your neck and pull the lever after we gain access to the records. please think carefully if this is really the job you want
>>537901600>CLIMATE CHANGEJUT INSTALL MORE AIRCONS>problem solved
>>537901504>humans are emitting lots of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, into the atmospheretrue>These gases are warming up the planet, and causing other climate effectstrue>Climate change will make it harder for us to grow food and survive.ridiculous>a fossil fuel investor on the internet told you that climate change is a hoaxthe climate was warming without co2, and it's beyond scientific knowledge to know the effect of co2, but it's almost certainly completely overstated. a child trusts their "experts" without question, and I know for a fact that you've never looked into the climate models that produce the predicted temperature change. go cry about conspiracy theories, this is not "Truth"
>>537901504Is that a heatmap or the percentage of niggers in each zone?
>>537901504The world would have been dead by 2020 according to climate scientist. In other words, they do not know what they are talking about.
>>537901504I like how the Finland temperatures of 13-14 Celsius are red to orange in color instead of green to turquoise green. We're having unusually chilly early summer, the heat wave hasn't even hit us yet.
>>537901600Do you not care about the future survival of humans?>>537902102AC is a great temporary cooling solution, but AC uses lots of electricity. I suppose if the sources of electricity are zero-emission (wind, solar, nuclear) then that's okay, but lots of electricity generation is still done from fossil fuels, the combustion of which releases greenhouse gases.>>537901626Even if you don't care about the lives of people in the hottest parts of the world, you will still feel the consequences of climate change:>Europe getting hotter and harder to live in>Food becoming more expensive because the climate will make it harder to grow food>People from hot areas in Africa and Asia will try their best to migrate to cooler places like northern Europe
>>537901504Tell me: what is man-made about climate change?
>>537901504/pol/ is a board made by edgy contrarians: if experts with degrees tell them something they must immediately adopt a contrarian position, no matter what.The users of this board are ready to say that the moon is made of cheese just to contraddict "the jews".
>>537901504>man made climate change You have to be 18 to post here.
>>537902543>you will still feel the consequences of climate change:Don't threaten me with warmer summers and proper winters like i had in my childhood. Only problem will be climate rapefugees
>>537901504I remember the days when that blood curdling red would instead would be happy pictures of the sun with it's rays out and the same numbers.
>>537901504its literally a normal summer you mind raped monkey rat
It's virtually July, vax-brain.
>>537901504Wintertime blizzards>Thats not climate thats weather chudSummertime Heatwave>Seee climate change seeeeEvery year
>>537901504That climate is changing I think is a real thing, except for Sweden for some reason (given I don't keep how the temperature is normally in the rest of Europe), but we don't really know why it is happening right now. If it is due to us exiting an ice age is probably more consistent with science than it being due to pollution since there has been temperature swings like this. I think Sweden had one of its coldest first six months for a very long time this year.
>>537901504there's no climate change asshole.God creates weather not fucking assholes like you altogether with kikes and other filthy degenerates.The earth is flat, and it's not a planetand youre fucking wanker and paedotransfaggot.Please, make yourself useful and leave if you dont like England stinking pajeet.
>>537901504JUST A SMALL TASTE OF UR ETERNITY.BURN IN HELL!!!
>>537901504How African is France even with these temperatures??
>>537901504
>>537901504Because the right is basically the party of retardation, while the left is the party of cuckoldry. Now you understand why everything is fucked.
>>537901504The surface of the earth is now cooler than at any point during the past 485 million years
>>537901504I don't know what kind of cretin thinks pollution is not bad.
meanwhile, we are at 20 degrees celsius with a fresh breeze blowing up slowly, as if we were in april instead of june, lmao.last time I heard "we are on a hot weave! we are going to die!" the thermometer marked 16 degrees celsius.they have turned fucking nuts. the lie is so obvious they have become a meme now.
>>537901504>So why can't the right-wing admit the truth about man-made climate change?Stop thinking that the entire right-wing doesn't believe in human made climate change.There's dark greens too.
>>537901504by and large people with problems cannot just change to solve the problemsby and large people with problems just need to dieyoure gonna die anyway but the real point is to at least breed with someone that doesnt have real problems if at allim not sorrry but just die
>>537903311uhm, actually, that is just a perfectly normal summer at that latitude, vax brain.
>>537902543Ooh no nice hot summers and cold winters how will we cope, the only thing constant about the climate I that it changes and c02 is not a driving factor the sun is
>>537903385indians.
>>537901504The same reason the left-wing can't admit when the right is right.The left wing is deluded into shit like>Elon Musk said it? that means it's automatically falsejust like the right wing says>some liberal NGO said it? that means it's automatically a hoaxIt's also because climate change is often greatly exaggerated. I think it's a real issue and I support the move towards green energy but people are rightfully frustrated when this shit is forced onto them but then they see the charts of emissions and it's all China and corporations trying to shave pennies off of their supply chains.
>>537902543have you tried telling the countries that emit the most carbon emissions to stop? you could give every european three air conditioners and let them run 24/7 for the entire summer and it wouldn’t amount to even a tenth of what china and india pump out in a week. your math is all fucked up and you rely on guilting whites because they’re the only organism that has empathy for life. your narrative is ineffective around here, just kys you faggot shill
I support the change in climate because my homeland gets more mediteranian weather and other nations rising sea levels and droughts are not my problem.
>>537903543>green energyunreliable energy that can't be used to actually run a civilization
>>537902543ERMAHGERD I FRIGGIN LOVE SÖYENCE>>537903348>>537903348>>537903348>>537903348>>537903348>>537903348
>>537903628Meh the problem was battery technology and the new sodium ion batteries out of China will fix this in stationary systems, and the new solid state battery of Samsung will fix the mobile site of things, the tech is maturing
>>537901504>man-madeyou sure as hell right about this part. but it's not that honky bullbull they're lying about. it's the machines that control the weather. and this is one giant experiment. 1. flood the euroop with shitskins that can easily live in heat2. ban ACs 3. deprive whites of rights4. turn the oven to 40 degrees5. observe from your cozy island and laugh while poor fight and dieand no, fuck you, im not crazy!
>>537902232kek
>>537901919>co2 is just above the lowest level it's ever been in the past 500M yearsLook at the last million years or so, pic related. CO2 has shot up over the last century. Pic is from here: https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/>the world is greening because plants like co2Some plants benefit in some parts of the world, but plants in other parts are negatively affected by climate change, probably due to rising temperatures and drought I expect. See map here: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/climate-change/how-to-live-with-it/crops.html
>>537903311I know you think this is some gotcha because you are too retarded to read celsius but it really looks just as bad
>>537903847You are getting cause and effect mixed up, c02 is getting higher because the sun is emitting more energy and our magnetosphere is getting weaker which causes more c02 to be released from oceans and other biological processes. It’s called the circle of live this should have been taught to you in 8th grade it’s basic knowledge.
>>537903847Woah, we had modern CO2 detection methods 800k years ago?Huh? We didn't? We inferred this data from trapped air bubbles in Antarctic ice?Wait, and modern CO2 detection methods are measuring CO2 levels at very specific places instead of across the globe?Wow, really makes you think!
>>537903847>Look at the last million years or so, pic related. CO2 has shot up over the last century.ok, but what of it?my point standsthe earth is old. the climate is oldwhy do you fixate on 1M years when we know about 500M years? even 500M years is a short amount of time to consider wrt the climatehow come the earth didn't blow up back when co2 ppm was 2000 or 4000?
>>537903628It's much more reliable because it doesn't require a constant supply of resources from the middle-east, for example. It avoids geopolitics.>but what if the sun goes out?!We have ways of storing energy. We would also be using it alongside other energy sources that can run as back-up. Nuclear runs 24/7 and energy can be stored from it overnight, for example. If we are in an emergency we can turn on the oil burners very quickly.
>>537903795These are made-up lines. The climate system does not look as pretty as that. If you look at actual temperature recordings it looks more like this.
>>537904202>Nuclearthe greens won't allow nuclearwhy? because the real goal is the literal disempowerment of peopleif the greens really just wanted to protect the environment, we would have gone with nuclear decades ago
>>537904047When they first came up with this al gore shit in the early 2000 I was like whatever why would they lie but in 2009 they litterly said the sun is not the driving factor of the climate it’s like claiming the earth is flat ooh and the muh consensus of 90% of scientist agree with this is a product of them sending out a letter and if you didn’t reply back you automatically got on the agree list, lawsuits are still being waged by actual scientists against that bureaucracy bullshit because they don’t want o be laughed at by actual serious people.
>>537904251The greens are retards who have no interest in green anything. They will destroy green spaces and they will destroy green energy.Best stop thinking about the greens as anything but "the islamic party".
>>537901919>Plants like CO2There are upper limits because of RuBisCO.
What is with that place with 0 in Libya? How is that possible.
>>537904267>RuBisCOok. what do you think is a reasonable guess for the upper limit of usefulness to plants? 10x current?
>>537901504Is there a way to get the number of climate posts as function of the temperature at the north half of the globe?
>>537904262You are schizophrenic. Please do not reply to me.
>>537904248Why did you cut off the mid evil warm period? You are not trying to bamboozle people are you?
>>537904391Not an argument
>>537901504*Volcano erupts*Oh shit that volcano just did 100 industrial revolutions
>>537904248>let me just deceptively zoom in on the last 200 years :^)coward:>>537903795>>537903348>>537903348>>537903795
>>537901504Also you fuckin retard, CO2 is literally what plants crave
>>537904501Don’t talk about THAT you fucking goyim you vill have a co2 budget to save the planet
>>537901880I think thats Nafri territory anon.
>>537904553Sell me your beachfront property for a shekel first, the ice caps are melting and it's literally useless. I promise to feed it to the homeless.
>>537901504This map is retarded. Why is the only green spot 6 degrees? 6 is fucking cold. I agree that 40 is too hot, but fix your fucking scale. Showing it like this is just clearly propaganda and turns away anyone even remotely logical.
>>537904520I was giving you an example of what REAL data looks like, yet you're linking me posts that're like>here I drew a sine wave :)grade school shit.>>537903348This is a good reference, however. I can't remember exactly how we measure temperature whether it's from ice cores or other isotope ratios or plant activity or whatever, but it's probably about right.So let's go from there.It was before that graph, more like 2,000,000 years ago, but there used to be no oxygen.Should we be concerned if we start losing all our oxygen? "But the earth had no oxygen before!" is it fine if we all can't breathe and just die one day?Similarly, at one point, there was so much oxygen that giant insects could live. They have since died out because less oxygen means they can't get the energy from the air that they need.The climate changes naturally and gradually and nature has adapted over millions of years.Now, sometimes, the climate changes dramatically. A meteor can cause decades of nuclear winter. That causes an extinction event, and many species simply stop existing, because change happens too fast.That does not normally happen. That happens when a supervolcano erupts or a meteor hits or some shit like that. The earth does not warm up this much this quickly under any normal circumstances. If it continues to go this way (it won't, we'll fix it), there will be another extinction event. Humans will survive but countless species have already died due to human activity.
>>537904787>>537904520I'll add in some more detailCO2 gets absorbed by the ocean and it increases ocean aciditywhen the oceans become acidic, certain minerals like aragonite and even calcite can't form, which corals and other creatures in the sea need to surviveso coral reefs are already starting to die out due to climate change.
>>537904878we know the corals already survived conditions of e.g. 4000 ppm
>>537904787How do you explain the mid evil warm period before the industrial revolution if co2 is the driving factor of climate? Your so full of shit it isn’t even funny
>>537903348Your graph shows extremely sharp rise in our time and I think that's the problems. Animals can adapt in millions of years but not in hundreds.
>>537904878Really the 70’s acid rain bullshit that never happend exscuse? Can you be not full of shit?
>>537904787(((Coincidentally))) the last Ice Age ended 200 years ago, curious Your entire narrative of Man-made global warming is nothing but misanthropic deception and Club of Rome faggotry Even if humans never existed the surface of our planet would warm up again about nowYou can go climb a wall of nigger dicks
>>537901504This is retarded. The heatwave hits harder where there are more browns because browns affects the atmosphere by projecting their noosphere onto reality itself. Get enough browns together and the atmosphere even starts acquiring an orange tint.
>>537904924Millions of years ago there may have been higher CO2 levels. Nature will have adapted. The current nature we have expects low CO2 levels. Natural wonders of the world we can currently go look at will die out, and there will not be time for a new nature to replace the void it leaves.>>537904966I don't remember the exact graphs so feel free to post one, this is what I found from google images, but it's apparently less warm than it is now.
>>537902543>People from hot areas in Africa and Asia will try their best to migrate to cooler places like northern Europejust shoot them
>>537905045I never mentioned acid rain? Ocean acidification is a simple chemical reaction you can check for yourself. Roughly 50% of the atmosphere's CO2 we produce ends up being absorbed by the ocean, which has helped prevent climate change somewhat.Acid rain is caused by coal, which has sulphur impurities.I believe CO2 could also cause rain to be a bit acidic (it still weathers limestone I believe) but it's not a big deal.
>>537904972It’s the sun dumb ass the only constant is climate change the suns dims the sun gets more active repeat till infinity human produced co2 lvls have nothing to do with it
>>537901504>Cut trees>put concrete everywhere>Global warming!!!!!!!
>>537904248I didn’t post temperatures, I posted cycles you fucking kike
>>537904540humans crave oxygen so how about you go breathe 100% oxygen
>>537905197How do you know it's only the sun?
>>537905109Does England has the climate to produce giant grape farms and other exotic fruits these days? No it doesn’t they had back then
>>537901504I have installed an AC in my place. Because I am a faggy Euro I also have solar panels on my balcony, so when I use the AC it tends to be very sunny, so the damn thing is basically running for free. I am laughing about all the fucking boomers around me who constantly complain about the heat but will not use an AC.
>>537905278Because it’s the emmiter of heat in our solar system maybe? You know the big giant fireball we circle and gives life to the planet
>>537905316some people cant install solar panels and AC because their landlord will have a melty
>>537905235Cycles that are not real data and are just hypotheses drawn from conclusions.I can also do that. Look at this graph. Temperature should be going down, why is it not going down?!
>>537905283It soon will do. Climate change will actually affect England favorably for a while, and other northern countries will become more fertile.
>>537905382Cause and effect you got it backwards
>>537905109try to have a little more faith in all this stuff that has already survived hundreds of millions of yearsi think you overestimate the power of humansyou seem worried that in a while, the exact same life won't be aroundthat was always the casei mean, consider what the planet was like just 200M years agojust try to have some perspective and not be so self important. sometimes i think hubris is really the core of the whole climate doomsday nonsense
>>537905353So in your mind greenhouse gases don't exist? The permian extiction was caused by massive volcanic eruptions in siberia but that was only sun too?
>>537901504What would be the purpose of fighting climate change if there will be no White people to keep it maintained?
>>537904972dead cat bounce
>>537901504I can accept that the climate is changing.I'm sceptical of the 'man made' narrative.
>>537905179Yes you are right about the c02 reopsorbtion which is natural and always happend but a catalyzer (which all western countries had)in a coal plant will stop the sulfuric pollution this whole project has nothing to do with actual climate but everything to do with a co2 budget for individuals to save the planet Offcourse.
>>537901504you know its summer again in the north when faggots think seasons are cause for tax hikes
>>537905464Greenhouse gasses are not a driving factor in climate temperatures at all it’s minuscule again you people get cause and effect mixed up, water vapor (clouds) have about 6 time more heat trapping potential then c02 but they couldn’t sell it to people to tax the clouds
>>537905438The original post is trying to explain the cause, which is these solar cycles.However, it doesn't provide any evidence. It just provides some imaginary lines on a graph.I looked up the paper itself>Vinos, J. (2022). Climate of the Past. Present and Future. A Scientific Debate (2nd ed.). Critical Science Press. Immediately I have my doubts considering this is suggesting it's published by just one guy, not a team. I can't see much talk about it and I don't know if it has any more than one citation in other papers.But, honestly, I'm not in the academic sphere anymore and didn't go all the way into being a researcher or anything so I'm not the best at determining if someone is a lunatic or not.It might be good science. The problem is I'm looking through this and I'm seeing insane graphs like ... Wheat prices, the production of wheat in 1200-1300, volcanic activity, solar activity... NH famine?It's trying to describe so many systems at once that it's really hard to draw any sort of conclusion. He could be completely right for all I know, but now I think about it, why does it matter?These curves >>537903795 are simply saying>hey, we expect things to get warmer if nothing else, i.e. no human activity, occursBut then look at >>537905109 and you see that it just suddenly shoots up. It's not a smooth curve at all.
>>537905459>try to have a little more faith in all this stuff that has already survived hundreds of millions of yearsthe industrial revolution is barely 200 years old
>>537905464And unironically the sun also has great effects on tectonic plates and volcano eruptions
>>53790583120 erupted volcanoes will exceed the c02 produced by the entire revolution
>>537905737right, good pointwhy not talk about water vapor more?because going after water vapor doesn't help them go after industrialization and individual empowermentthe people going after co2 really just want a sneaky way of attacking the modern worldthey're free to go off grid and live in huts, but they don't do it. but they want everyone else to be forced to
>>537903598I wish climate change was real, but to a polar climate, so every single shitskin and nigger dies.Please, God, turn the whole planet into Yakutsk.
>>537905109see: ~>>537903348
>>537905916where did you pull that number from
>>537901504>So why can't the right-wing admit the truth about man-made climate change?The truth is that we're exiting an ice age. This has happened time & time again.1 volcanic eruption spews more CO2 into the atmosphere than the entire industrial revolution.We are ants on this planet, nothing more.
>>537905459You think I don't have faith? I already know full well that humans and many species will survive. Many species are highly adaptable, especially humans.But also other things won't.Maybe corals will survive in some small part of the world, but if it means coral coverage goes from 100% to 1%, we've lost something.Also.Biodiversity is important. Sure, if we kill 99% of all biodiversity and we go down to just 1%, the Earth will repopulate in time. Just like after the previous extinction events.But, let's say the Earth suddenly heats up. Species that can't survive the heat die off.Then let's say the Earth suddenly cools down. In theory, we had species that could have survived the lower temperatures, but now what we have is creatures who are capable of surviving heat. So, we're left with only creatures that can survive both.Then let's say the habitats in which those creatures live changes, maybe it's a marsh and all the water becomes salty or acidic or something. But by this point, most of the creatures that could survive a change in the marsh have already been killed by temperature changes.Eventually, we'd be left with no bears except one generic bear. We'd be left with no birds except gulls and pigeons and crows. That can also cause imbalances in the ecoystem i.e. locust swarms now eating all the crops because the predators are gone.A bit of an exaggeration, I doubt it'll ever reach that point but in short, we shouldn't force sudden and unnatural changes.
>>537905805It’s called solar activity its not a ball that keeps a constant flow of energy it dims sometimes and it puts out more energy sometimes these processes can take thousands of years ( a wink of an eye in geological time) or sometimes just a couple of hundred like the mid evil warm period again c02 is not a driving factor of climate
>>537905916>20 erupted volcanoes will exceed the c02 produced by the entire revolution>>537906027>1 volcanic eruption spews more CO2 into the atmosphere than the entire industrial revolution.lmao this site is overrun by bots and shills it is actually depressing
>>537906022Your moms ass
>>537905635Yeah, I assume coal plants are doing that now then. Acid rain was more of a problem in the past.We do still have air quality problems such as from cars even if they aren't burning coal, the air quality in cities goes up immensely once car traffic is reduced.
>>537905805>>537906035
>lovely and hot>everyone I know, including me, has gotten a chest infectionthis is a weird year
What? Didn't the left wing just entirely drop climate as a talking point when their jewish overlords started building AI data centers? The left wing literally gave up having an opinion on climate change and therefore any discussion is superfluous.
>>537901504What is the solution then? Kill 90% of the population?The rich tech oligarchs are probably going to do that anyway in the next 200 years.
>>537905995consider
>>537906065Continuous release: Passive, diffuse outgassing through soils, faults, and hydrothermal systems accounts for over 90% of this total, rather than explosive eruptions.Muh your an bot not an argument greta
>>537906041those changes over 100s of years are small differences.What we're seeing now is a big change in 10s of years.Right now it's not a big deal, but if that line keeps going up, it will far surpass anything like those small changes.
>>537906089Thats not what we are talking about we are talking about the impact of c02 on the climate
>>537905629Oh it's for sure man-made for a significant part.But of that part, like 80% of it stems from countries like China who do not give a shit about the environment unless it benefits them.
>>537906179And again it has nothing to do with human activity
>>537905916Volcanoes release CO2 that was buried by plate tectonics.Carbon is captured in rocks and eventually that carbon is released back.The rate at which carbon is released by volcanoes is therefore quite similar to the rate at which we put carbon back into the Earth.
>>537906135wow, a whole 400k years
>>537906112The left now only cares about unlimited immigrants.
>>537906179kekwe are accelerating itnot by further pollution but by cutting emissionscleaner air has meant that wider areas are heating up quicker
>>537906215You don't think the graph here >>537906135 is caused by humans?Or are you saying if it is caused by humans, it has no real effect?
>>537903847Co2 is good. Makes plants grow. Which makes oxigen for us to breath.If you want to eliminate Co2, you want to kill all the plants, all the animals and all the people.You're a freaking psycho who wants to end life in the planet and you should be killed for that.
>>537906302bot post
>>537906279That graph is made up.
>>537906135Nice try, but you don't get to weasel out by moving the goalpost to CO2 either
>>537906135> Mauna Loa Instrumental MeasurementsThe organization who put measurement devices on tarmacs at airports is not a scientific method conducted study I’am sorry you’ve been sold a lie getting a c02 budget will not save le earth from the sun
>>537906243The earliest human civilizations were about 6000 years ago.All of human history fits in just over 1% of that graph.
>>537906240>WeThis has nothing to do with human activity
>>537905269>you're OK with a little more CO2?>you must want 100% CO2 then!100% of either doesn't really exist outside of small, controlled environments. Earth is self-regulating and the atmosphere is always a blend. And I'm aware of hyperoxia
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>>537901504All this can be easily fixed by simply exterminating niggers and other subhuman waste.
>>537906340>>537906336The graph is constructed by taking ice cores from glaciers, which have stored CO2 levels inside of them that have remained there, with older dates being at the bottom of ice cores and more recent dates near the top.Dates can be checked by isotope decay, if I recall right.
>>537902543>Do you not care about the future survival of humans?No, fuck humanity,Reminder that britbongs started industrial revolution, then used their military power to spread it around the world.It's all yours fault.I hope you will boil alive during the next heatwave.
>>537906361>All of human history fits in just over 1% of that graph.irrelevantthis is the self-centered hubris perspective i was talking aboutthe sun and earth run the showhow about you take a look at what they've been up to for the past 500M years before humans could have had the slightest effect?
>>537906371"We" does not inherently imply human activity. "We" here refers to the planet's system, just for clarification. Creatures have carbon in them and creatures form certain rocks such as limestone which gets buried and eventually ends up being burned into gas and released by volcanoes.
>>537906411>IT MUST BE TRUE BECAUSE IT'S SCIENCE!!!Go fucking kill yourself.
>>537902135The climate models assumed that CO2 could contribute dozens of degrees to the thermal capacity of the atmosphere.A Lord in Britain who's a mathematician by trade took a look at the climate models and found a flaw in the algorithm.When he fixed it, CO2's thermal capacity dropped to 2,3°C.But that's not all. The scientific community assumes that this CO2 temperature increase is linear.It's not. It scales logarithmically.For the global average temperature to go up by 0,1°C from CO2 today, it would need to double its ppm.This was published in 2016, peer reviewed, and unchallenged. The math works out.This means that the climate scare has nothing to do with actual global warming.Perhaps the climate refers to something different.You know how in corporate settings, people sometimes say that when a new manager was brought in, the climate changed?CO2 is an industrial byproduct. Reducing CO2 levels has meant outsourcing and reducing industries from Europe.Europeans get scolded by each other for their CO2 output, while China is pumping over 10x as much into the atmosphere every day undeterred and uncriticised.That's the climate change they're talking about.Not CO2. Economy.
>>537906374>>you must want 100% CO2 then!it is a hyperbole to illustrate the point that more does not necessarily mean good
>>537906411Did you not read your own chart? It’s right there the line red line are measurements from Mauna Loa Instrumental Measurements institute
>>537906465And again human activity has nothing to do with it you keep forgetting that point
>>537906461If the planet were to suddenly take on the conditions of what the planet had 500 million years ago, it would be the apocalypse as entire ecosystems collapse, ecosystems which we depend on both directly and indirectly.500 million years gives nature time to adapt to changing conditions.
>>537903598kek
>>537906340>>537906487>>537906505Thank you for bringing this to our attention
>>537906541And again human activity has nothing to do with it it’s religious at this point>Pay le c02 tax and have an carbon allowance otherwise snake god will eat the planet
>>537906505The blue line is the only thing you could really argue about, because it's historical CO2 levels using basically geological data.The red line is something you could go out and observe right now. like, I'm sorry, I'm trying to be as neutral as possible here but that's absolutely absurd to try and refute the graph based on specifically the one part we absolutely know for certain
nature conquers allwe are experiencing a freak weather systemthe worst possible thing that could occur this year is a big eruptionI fully expect it to happen
>>537906540Yes, human activity has nothing to do with the natural cycle of CO2 being buried (removed from atmosphere) and released by volcanoes (added to atmosphere)so let's fucking IGNORE ITor did a massive volcano erupt recently and release a ton of CO2 into the air? can you show me where that happened?
>>537906626the carbon credits system has ostensibly failed like many green initiatives have because it fails to actually hold the people taking the tax benefits / money to account.it's why we need the right wing to do something about climate change, because the left are bleeding heart retards who can't formulate a plan that isn't highly abusable by third world parties and minorities
>>537906629>>537906340Let me put an thermostat in an tin box and put it in the sun in an airport on the tarmac to have good statistical data a science
>>537906701This has nothing to do with thermometers, this is the reading of CO2 which you can go do right now.If CO2 levels are not like on that graph, you can publish a paper about it and become famous the world over for exposing how water isn't wet and air is actually solid. go on, do it.
>>537906700You can’t do anything about the climate you religious zealot you can how ever help the environment but India Africa and china don’t give a shit about environment
>>537906663nigger, you're pants on head retarded
>>537901919Yeah except CO2 fluctuations in the past took place over geologic timescales with plenty of time for the ecosystem to adapt. The CO2 was pretty much stable at 280 ppm for thousands of years until industrialization. We have nearly doubled it since then.
>>537906752Mauna Loa Instrumental Measurements
>>537906795If the world's biggest retard right now said "water is wet" I wouldn't use that to say>water is actually dry because a retard said the opposite
>>537901504Province of Arezzo here
>>537906783It’s the sun Jezus Christ and again C02 IS NOT A DRIVING FACTOR OF CLIMATE IT NEVER WHAS
>>537906765We can stop temperature from going up by 5 or 6 degrees celcius, making the oceans stagnant and acidic, disappearing the earth's ice caps and losing a bit of coastal land to rising oceans.I mean, some of it is still going to happen, but if we choose to ignore it and do nothing, eventually we'll run out of fossil fuels and we'll be forced to use green energy anyway and then the>solar panels don't work in the sun!!will be very true since we won't have back-up fuels to fuel us when the sun isn't out.
>>537906864>solar panels don't work in the sun!!sorry, correctionsolar panels don't work when there's no sun out, obviously
>>537906660Dude the eruptions on the surface are nothing compared to the shit that happens at the bottom of the oceans.https://research.noaa.gov/hunga-tonga-2022-eruption/In 2022 there was such a large underwater eruption that it caused a fuck ton of rainfall all over the planet for the next year, did real damage to the ozone layer, and raised the average global ocean temperature by half a degree.Another huge factor these retards don't consider is that the sun goes in cycles of activity as measured by the number of observed sun spots, with more spots meaning the sun is more active. A total cycle is around 14 years iirc. Last year was the peak of solar activity.But 'm sure volcanoes will stop exploding and the sun will calm down if you pay your carbon taxes and use a paper straw, goy.
>>537901504the left doesnt matterthere is no reason to EVER care about anything the left cares about because of this exact issueyou guys are all about shit that isnt real like men being pregnant. you have essentially suicide poison welled anything you care about.temps cooking your people? nobody cares because you say OMG CLIMATE CHANGE!!! and we remember you wanting to groom children and cut peoples dicks off to 'be women.'we ask what a woman is and you cant even explain it.you have dug yourselves in such deep pits you will never be able to do anything you want. you have effectively lost the game.
>>537901504>The truth is that humans are emitting lots of greenhouse gases, such as CO2who is doing this?if leftists would admit that it's 90% asia polluting the planet instead of punishing europeans for it they would still be in power
We had the same thread yesterday and the day before and it was also British f(l)ags doing all the posting. What is this shit?
>>537906783none of this matters because 99% of all pollution related issues are from africa, india, and china.go complain to them faggots, theres literally nothing anyone else on earth can do about it.
>>537906864>We can stop temperature from going up>by letting chinks, niggers and poojeets pollute everything
>>537906810You go ahead i for one actually use the scientific method like come on man they litterly said in 2009 the sun is not the driving factor of climate because their back were against the wall. Just ignore the giant gaping hole in your thesis and everything will be fine
>>537906337Based on the graphic you've posted alone... you agree that atmospheric CO2 heavily correlates with ambient temperature. you agree that we've increased CO2 to levels that previously haven't been experienced on Earth for millions of years in a matter of centuries. And you think this will have zero effect on the climate. This tells me you aren't really worth attempting good faith interlocution with, as your IQ is likely in the double digits.
>>537906999china is improvingafrica is barely a dentindia for sureusa can easily improve but it would cost like a few cents more so the coal barons will do everything in their power to not have to do that
>>537901504Green politicis were started by nazis. Amwrican republicans are not right'wing, they are racist liberals.
>>537906999This is our planet. We are its stewards. Meaning Whites, not (You), little brown jam boy.
>>537906999this is another vital pointwestern commies are urging us to commit industrial suicidebut even if we did, it wouldn't make the slightest differencethat's just another way we can discern what the real goal of all this isnothing to do with saving the earth or animalseverything to do with some people disempowering others, because scarcity has vastly more political juice than abundance
>>537906922We get it:If only white industrial nations would kill themselves, Africa and India would immediately turn into a temperate Paradise, literally Wakanda sure
>>537906487>A Dude in Britain who's a mathematician by trade took a look at the climate models and, like totes found a flaw in the algorithm. trust me broMay we see it?
>>537901504Not my problem + I have AC you absolute yuropoor plebeians.
>>537906928I know all about the Hunga Tonga eruptionI also know its going to lock in the current weather patterns we are seeing for a few more yearsIf another major surface eruption happens during this period we as a society are getting our asses handed to us overnight
>>537906864> We can stop temperature from going up by 5 or 6 degrees celciusYou litterly can’t it’s hubris of the highest order lets forget were we were talking about for a second how are you gonna force India China and Africa to give a shit? They will be happy taking over your industrie and they will spew all the toxic shit into the atmosphere without a second thought
>>537907040Cause and effect you got them backwards
>>537907040>strawmanning this hardEarth is going to heat up and there's nothing you can do about it It would have happened either wayThe last Ice Age ended 200 years ago Logic dictates that what follows is..?
>>537901504The France is so black, that all the niggers in there suck in the sun's heat and they burn down the country.
>>537907149These people are quite insane it’s religious really like they are heroes that will safe the planet it feels good but it’s nonsense
>>537907309Nooo the sun is like a lightbulb that has put out consistent energy since the formation of the solar system you climate denier (which again is religion like thinking)
>>537907438Ik ben zo moe, Thijs..Doe eens gwn normaal gvdKanker
>>537907303Oh, so it's just a coincidence that warming proceeding from the current rise in CO2? Will you claim the current CO2 rise is from natural sources? Too bad CO2/oxygen radioisotope analysis definitively proves anthropic combustogenic origin. Excuse the snarky attitude but it is so unbelievably annoying reiterating this basic shit over and over.
>>537907553>OOGA BOOGA muh solar activity muhfuckaIndescribably exhausting.
>>537907025The sun is the driving force of seasons and other predictable changes.Very regular, very predictable.The entire point of why we're measuring record extremes or greenhouse gasses or average temperatures is this eliminates the predictable, regular changes that we can account for.
>>537907571Crazy how they managed to sample the entire planet's atmosphere. I'm sure these tests weren't intentionally performed in areas where there's guaranteed to be localised increases in CO2. Scientists would never lie for money.
>>537907571It’s because the sun is more active causing more c02 to be released again cause and effect you got em backwards
>>537906783That's nearly 1-1 with the rise of welfare payments :)
>Pure coincidence, goy.>Zoom out!
>>537907438I don't feel like a heroI feel like someone trying to argue that blacks cause more crime to a leftist.horseshoe theory is painfully realThey can never give you actual evidence, they just say "yeah but surely something else is causing it, it's just a coincidence, actually we don't trust the sources I don't have a source to refute you so let's just agree that the data doesn't exist"
>>537907625Now do the mid evil warm period you retarded sack of lard
>>537907727so if you increase CO2 levels by 1000 everywhere...it increases the CO2 levels by 1000 near a volcano too?interesting
>>537907727>Performing tests for CO2 in Hawaii, a place known for volcanoes
I'm starting to get the feeling most of you really do deserve to own nothing and be happy
>>537904031they know, they just want to get money out of this scam that is the "climate change". which doesn't exists and always was called "global warming", until they realized the climate was getting colder, instead of hotter.what are they going to do once the new ice age starts? the climate is getting colder and colder, we will reach another ice age sooner or later. what are they going to do then? i don't remember hot weaves like the ones in the 90's. my wardrobe has become increasingly warmer and I don't use summer clothes since the year 2000. Only spring, autumn and winter clothes the whole year. 30 degrees celsius in february and 50 in august was the norm in the 90's, and nobody ever mentioned climate change, or global warming until 2005 or so. Our "hot weaves" are of 25 degrees celsius in august now, lmao.
>>537907747You are deliberately ignoring my points I allready explained them adequately there is nothing we can do to stop solar emissions
>>537906841Just hold a glas tube filled with CO2 and one with just air into the sun and measure it's temperatures.
>>537907727>immediately circles back to doctored data and deceptively cropped timelines debunked just a few posts earlierNigger, who are you trying to fool?
>>537907894That will not account for the other processes the sun has on this earth
>>537907856The hottest summer on record in the UK is still 1976. Some places didn't see a drop of rain for a month and a half. Three years ago it rained quite literally all summer, might've had one day of sun. Climate frenzy retards were awfully quiet at the time.
kekAll this has happened beforewe are part of it but there is not one thing we are doing that nature hasnt done itselfan eruption in the wrong place could exactly replicate whats happening now, in fact, if it happened in an exact area it would make the last 150 years of human activity look like a blip
>>537907571Funny your chart implies things were fine in the 80s when Europe and America were at their industrial heights, CO2 was still equal to oxygen output. It only really starts slipping in the 90s through the ‘aughts gee did some mega industrial power with zero environmental regulation enter the scene?>>China GDP >>1989: 0.3 Trillion>>1999: 1.2 Trillion (4x industrial base)>>2009: 5.1 Trillion (17x)>>2019: 15.5 Trillion (you get the idea)Until the Green Party argues in favor of nuking China into the Stone Age I don’t believe for a second they actually care about “Anthropomorphic Climate change”You could murder everyone in the west (like they are trying to with government restrictions on Air conditioners in Europe is absolutely getting real people killed) and it still wouldn’t prevent China + India from running the global pollution levels off a cliff.
>>537907856Yeah it’s a joke in the same league as mumugumbhu and pipi is gonna pay for your pension goy repeated long enough the NPC hordes will template it on themselves like a baby bird or something
>>537901504There is literally no evidence that climate change is the result of human activity. In fact there's growing evidence that the relative "climate stability" the earth has experienced for the last 10,000 or so is actually an anomaly and the earth is simply returning to its natural state of having a more "unstable" climate.
>>537904193Co2 is a good thing. The more Co2, the more plants will there be, which will create more and more oxigen. These retards want to destroy the cicle Co2-Oxigen and kill all life on earth.
>>537907883Actually, there isnot having greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere is one thinghaving higher albedo on the surface is another.earlier in this thread I posted this >>537906279to see where the misunderstanding is, because you either didn't believe in CO2 causing global warming (in which case you have no reason to care about CO2 levels) or you don't believe the CO2 levelsbut you never told me. instead I got someone saying they just don't believe the CO2 levelswhich is the easiest thing to prove. It's blatantly obvious the CO2 levels are at an extremeso if we're going to now argue about whether or not CO2 causes global warming it's just horrendous goal post shifting that will go around and around in circles just like trying to argue that blacks cause more crime "actually it's socioeconomic factors" "actually the data that shows it's not socioeconomic factors is biased by the police" "actually it's caused by the police" "actually it's caused by slavery" etc etc that's why I want people to shut the fuck up and just focus on one point. what is it exactly that people don't understand? don't just doubt everything at once, just pick ONE THING to discuss and maybe people will learn something for once in these threads because I assure you nobody here is ready to read through scientific papers on every single topic
>>537901504AAHHHH THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING SO... uh... we need to tax you more and youre racist or something
I think the biggest issue to focus on is the "does CO2 cause global warming?"as you can see, there is not an instant and direct link between CO2 and temperature, because many different factors affect it. But you can see a pretty clear pattern.
>>537901504>So why can't the right-wing admit the truth about man-made climate change?Because you'll get vanned if you say what we actually did and only retards believe in CO2 nonsense.
>>537908155Thats a reasonable stance
>>537908329Based fucking cat. Give those fuckers the pineapple.
>>537901504Klimatus chanerikus
>>537908274The climate isn't changing. Grifters are using a combination of small sample sizes of years and shitty "data" to try and take control, and useful idiots like this >>537908314 are falling for it and regurgitating their lies.
>>537902232Yes.
Those evil SUV driving cavemen caused all of the ice to melt.
>>537908397Wage slave harder you consumer pig and leave the poor friends of epstein in our world economy politic alone.
>>537908314of course it doesthere is literally shitloads of evidencegoing back to the 19th centuryone of the simplest experiments was putting out cylinders of gas in the sun to see how they retained heatco2 was by fair away the best at retaining heatits that simple
https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/Space_for_our_climate/Why_is_Antarctica_s_mass_increasing>The Antarctic Ice Sheet has been growing since 2020 – and scientists have now identified why. Research funded by the European Space Agency (ESA) looked at factors affecting Antarctica’s delicate environmental dynamics. Despite accelerating loss of ice through glacier melt, exceptionally heavy snowfall in recent years is adding to the mass of the icy continent.The planet is heating up. That's why the Antarctic ice sheet has been growing over the last 6 years. Because it's warmer. And ice likes to be warm.
>>537908530Water vapor is actually about six times more heat trapping
>>537908367we don't have to agree but I think threads like these really need to focus on just one issue at a time so I'm just gonna focus on that from now on (correlation between CO2 and temperature)I should probably go do work though>>537908397There is no grifting. I spent years studying this kind of thing, pretty much for fun.In fact, my family is an oil tycoon family. My great great grandfather founded a business which, at one point in time, was the richest business on this planet, all based on oil.I'm not even a scientist now. I just run my own business.I have no ulterior motives. Much of science doesn't (social sciences do however have a huge issue with political correctness, and other sciences have an issue where people don't care about reporting on generic and very boring science) the only thing I care about is the truth. If we can understand graphs and data we can understand the truth about many things, not just climate change but immigration and crime. People have to be able to understand the data and think rationally.If you disagree with the graph I posted, it takes more than just "I don't like the data" to explain it.>>537908530It's even easier to explain CO2 though. We have instant and reproducable evidence that CO2 levels are higher now. So all we have to do is convince people that CO2 does, in fact, cause warming.As for what we do about it, I don't care, I hate all the left-wing parties, I just want people to accept the basic facts.
>>537908631Clouds do retain heat and a clear night will cool faster than a cloudy one, that's true.But that happens all the time. It doesn't increase the average temperature.CO2 is always there. It doesn't come and go. It's permanent unless a tree or rock sucks it up.
>>537907557Ik ook Hanns ik ook
>>537908654You're an obvious lying fuck is what you are. Kill yourself.
Am iThe last germany guy?Did everyone else melt?Sahnekrautauflauf.
>>537908734You have no interest in the truth. You are the most useful idiot the establishment could have.
>>537901504>skelrk klrk blrgh click sklerk blergh klekr
>>537908823I told you to go kill yourself. Do it. It'll lower CO2 emissions!
Mama said, there will be days like this.
>>537901504Climate Faggots NEVER blame Chinkland with zero emission regulations. Why? cuz dah kill dah climate KIKE
>be me>house on a hill>first floor is made of stone>60cm thicc>backwall is literally underground due to the grade>have to sleep with a blanket in AugustMust suck being city-slicking apartmentnigger
>>537908631only in the upper atmospherenot in generalthats why that underwater eruption was so significant
>>537908873I care vastly less about lowering CO2 emissions, and care vastly more about dealing with retards like you.
>hot weather in the summerWtf is going on, anons? Is this the end times?
>>537909088What's even dumber is that it's only a short heatwave. Couple days from now it'll go back to being a mediocre summer.
>>537901504Not my problem.
>>537909088Actually, not technical summer yetANDThe actually odd continuation of the heat over more then 10 days is according to the weather recording an anomaly not seen yet.It is also important to say, that even so we already had such heatwaves in the past, it is actually very new to have a heatwave that is continoues throughout a whole week.
Fun factIf any anons here have noticed a change in the appearance in the sun over the yearsyou are not wrongthe irony is, because of clean air acts etc there are way less heavy pollutants so the sun looks whiter now rather than the cozy yellow of years agofunny really, all that coal dust etc was actually protecting us in a way, now its going the sun is able to heat us up more efficiently
>>537901504>man-madeZoom out on the timeline.It was always going to get a LOT hotter, if you're not prepared to help develop and farm resistant crops/livestock+adapt building/clothing material while helping build them, there won't be room for you in the underground climate cave and we'll feed you to the compost pile.
>>537909239>Actually, not technical summer yetYes it is. Both calendar wise and meteorologically/astronomically. Summer began June 1st calendar wise, and on summer solstice the 21st of June, summer started in a meterological/astro sense.
>>537909408I think someone is ready to smell my balls.
>>537909239get used to itits a feature nowlonger and longer periods of similar weatheryou must have noticed over the last couple of years we have been getting rain that lasts for weeks now
>>537909239>it is actually very new to have a heatwave that is continoues throughout a whole weekBack in 1976 Heathrow had 30C+ temperatures for 16 straight days.
>>537909422I think you're a greasy kaboptürk who needs to eat shit.
>>537909452that was a weird event that was caused by a volcanic eruption 18 months previous
>>537901504you're literally a jewbut let's say I believe you for a second:obviously, the only way to save the climate is to kill every single leftist, kike, nigger, shitskin and south asian on the planetlet's do it! let's save the climate!
>Climate is changing and it's gonna kill us all>QUICK! FAST FORWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OF HUGE ENERGY GUZZLING DATA CENTERS!!!>IMPORT 10 MILLION MORE PEOPLE INTO HIGH ENERGY LOAD DEVELOPED NATIONS>CONSTRUCT NO MORE RESERVOIRS>CUT PUBLIC TRANSPORT ROUTESDo goyim really fall for this?
>>537909577Ich bin deutsch, du kackwurst.
>>537901504Its another mild summer in CA. 80 degrees today. The earths magnetic poles are shifting. You should call it climate shift because the earth will do what it does and you will always be an inbred kike.
>>537907856People don't like it but I wore full jeans, shirt and zipped up vest combinations at 30-32°C while they were bitching that it's cold last year. And the year before.In fact every year's summer has been feeling colder and colder, even if temperatures don't indicate so.The most noticeable change is the day-night differential.That used to be 5°C whether the day was 30 or 32. Nights at 25°C, hmmm.But even last night, following 38°C daytime heat, went all the way down to 20°C.I believe that more heat is escaping the atmosphere than before.
>>537907966Isolating the effect of CO2 is the point of this experiment retard.
The leading right wing countries of the world, paragons of basedness and tradness, are...>trump's america>china>russia>india>best koreaI don't know about truth, but it makes sense that the right wing would be deeply intimate with post-truth and other forms of barbarism.
>>537906783Yeah or maybe long time scales obstruct small scale noise, dipshit.
>>537908716
>>537901504So either climate change is man made, but not in the man made way they want you to believe, or climate change s supposedly real and they aren’t using the technology to manage it.Or they have played around with the technology so much they don’t know how to unfuck it.
>>537907625>eughh I’m so le exhausted What a faggot you are
>>537909239Heat domes are normal for El Niño.What's different is that this one lasts this long, but then this El Niño is much bigger than usual.Or as the youtube content creators put it: "HYPER SUPER GLOBAL FURNACE EL NIÑO"They make 90s advertising look slow.
>>537901504>5 threads about the weather and air conditioningin other words, nothing is happening. That's good i guess.
>>537901504It depends. If you're an actual nationalist/traditionalist you care about the environment. You're not ruled by big businesses making money and polluting everything. The capitalist mindset. Have no environmental laws so you can make an extra shekel. But then you have the boomer neocons that don't give a fuck and would let the whole world burn. And don't forget the Evangelicals that actually want the world to come to an end so Jesus can return. Why would they care about the environment if earth is gonna be destroyed anyway? This makes most of the right incredibly retarded when it comes to climate change
>>537901504co2 emissions have been steadily decreasing since the late 90s when they started this panic. CO2 is not your problem. The reason the heat is worse is due to lizard people terraforming earth through HAARP.Or increased sunspot activity. It could be that.
>>537903220kek we had a pretty cold winter this year and a fag colleague of mine just went>NOOO THIS IS GOING TO PLAY RIGHT INTO THE FAR RIGHT'S HANDS THEY WILL USE THIS TO DENY CLIMATE CHANGE
>>537901504Climate change is real, but humans thinking they're a major part of it is retarded.
>>537910416its because of the underwater eruption in 2022its locking in weather patterns and will continue to do so for anther few years
>>537909948Sure thing, Mehmet.
>>537901504It because climate change, whether it's man made or not, is weaponized as a trojan horse to usher in more taxes, more regulations, more state power that will never go away once implemented and will not lower the temperature by even a fraction of a degree. Why can't people who like to think they're the 'intelligent ones' recognise this? This is what ALWAYS happens. Giving more money and more power to your government while you get to live a shittier life with your unreliable 'green' energy will not help. If the left were serious about this, they'd support nuclear energy. The only energy that's fossil-free, reliable, predictable and will work 24/7, not just when the sun's out or there's enough winid blowing. The left is againt nuclear energy, precisely BECAUSE it fixes all these problems. They don't want it to go away, they want to continue to use it as their bogus reason to tax and regulate you. Understand how this world really works already, ideologue.
>>537910416Sounds right, a ULTRATONICAL SUPER MEGALOMANIA ELO NINONATOR
>>537910562Vorhaut griefer, kike someone else.
>>537901504If climate change is real, then it's based. Burn you fucking faggots.Literally freezing cold rn in my ac. Might crank it down another extra degree just because of this post kek.
>>537901504We have choosen the best place for the upcoming cataclysm that will kill 99% of humanity in 2032. I hope the fucking sentient plasmoid angels in the dead sea caves dont fuck this up.
>>537901919very good
>>537909938Like you wouldn't believe.
>>537910927Based. Just remember to spare your best goyim such as myself. Glory to Israel.
>>537901504Sure is summer in here.
>Temperature variations during a solar maximumGee, must be nice not having understanding of anything that happened beyond 5 years ago.
>>537901504the worst part of life right now is to see so many young wankers and little cunts who believe in everything whatever jewtv and jewsmartphone tell them.It's basically unbearable how young generation of people have been destroyed intelectually by the jews and freemasons.
>>537909842Imagine if tits like this were real.
>>537913910Demora.She's on youtube.
>>537914082Too fat.
>>537903847>PROBABLY>POSSIBLY>MAYHAPS>LIKELY>SEEMINGLYI hate you, and I despised being forced to listen to these lies for most of my degree in urbanism.
>>537909938That's the left-wing solution and it's retardedthe right-wing solution is to do nothing about itso either way we're completely fucked
>>537901504Iceland won.
>>537901504Communists lie about climate change because they think they can get power out of it.
>>537902543Just start genociding and there'll be more food. Take pride in killing everything, raping brown palishits to death, and being antihumanist. It's all about the high caste meaning
>>537906302actually the most retarded thing iv read today
>>537906487The napkin math is that a doubling in co2 would lead to about 4 W/m2 on top of about 1400 W/m2 extra radiative forcing, or about 0.3%. As far as I know the logarithmic relation between co2 concentration and radiative forcing is undisputed, but never mentioned by climate alarmist for obvious reasons. The question is what is the change in temperature as a consequence of this change in radiative forcing, the "climate sensitivity", which they "calculate" with models. Aside from finding "errors" in such models, the entire enterprise is completely ridiculous, and it's not difficult to find values ranging from a factor 0.1 to 5. All of this is beside the point though, regardless of what values of sensitivity people find reasonable. The main contention is that THESE MODELS ARE BULLSHIT. Not wrong, or inaccurate, just meaningless. It could be that doubling leads to 1 degree extra, or 5 degrees, or whatever you want in between. It's not a science, it's government-sponsored retardation.
>>537901504>>Words words words If Climate Change was real and not a fraud / cult.>>Large scale building of nuclear reactors.Not just for electricity, but smaller scale in cities for district heating and cooling ( yes EU retard you could be having A/C right now powered by a safe reactor ) Nuclear Container ships .>>Wide spread use of diesel cars ( like those rolling Coal trucks ) >>Geo thermal heating. But there is none of that so you know it is all a lie -- and why they dont >>Lefties hate nuclear while the Right are fine with it .>>Lefties hate diesel while The Right is fine with it >>Drilling geothermal wells would benefit republican voters . ( No Liberal Faggots on a drill rig ) That is why you can tell Climate Change is Fake.
How long until my zone goes up a number or two?
>>537918313Oh no, all those mean colors.
>>537901504shut up eurocuckst. Texan
>>537901504Air Condition Is comfy.
>>537916096So how would you improve model parameters?
>>537901504Wanting government to tax and place hardship on the west, while ignoring India and China, doesn’t make you enlightened. It makes you a coward.
>>537902246what do you think happens in a greenhouse? are greenhouses also a conspiracy?
>>537901626Oh boy I'd hate to live in a food insecure region
>>537902863are the experts with degrees in the room with us now italinon?
>>537901880technically the purple region is africa
>>537922024Models don't work for something like climate sensitivity. It's advanced astrology for smart people. You can model something reasonably if averaging works and quantities are reasonably stable under evolution. None of this applies to the climate. What's the effect of oceans, biomass, clouds, etcetc? You can't average such systems because they don't lend themselves to that. Many parameters is not a good thing, it means you can make your model do anything
>>537901504In /pol/ terms:warm weather = black peoplecolder weather = white people
