Hold up.. so you’re telling me not only do Americans tip for waitresses at restaurants …. They have to tip their bartender???? So they pay the bartender to give them a bottle of beer and then ontop of that they have to tip the bartender for doing so… every single time???? Wtf so if you ask the bartender for a vodka with Pepsi dude just pours a shot of Pepsi and mixes it with vodka and you have to tip for that???No way, no freaking way I refuse to believe this is true
Vote with your wallet. Don't tip, don't go to these places.
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>>537908139>they even tip for drinks at movie theatres what the fuck
>>537908139Tipping is fucking mental, just increase the fucking wage.
>>537911582The servers don’t want that as they make far more money off tips than a standard wage
>>537911582a place will hemmorage front of house staff because they don't want a stable wage, many places have tried in north america and it usually takes about a year or so to revert back to allowing gratuities. Owners love it, servers love it and it creates a wage disparity fucking over the back of house staff who dp the lionshare of actual work. It basically has to be legislated away because you cannot change tipping culture without a heavy handed top down approach
>>537911582As much as servers bitch about being forced to rely on tips, if there's any realistic chance of them being abolished those same servers will be the first ones to fight to keep them. With how outrageous "expected tips" are these days, you can make WAY more money off tips than you'll ever get paid if the company gave you a "fair wage."Which they do at minimum. If they don't make enough in tips to reach minimum wage, their employer is required to pay them extra to make up for it. So servers will generally underreport their tips to stay below that minimum anyways(digital tipping completely enraged servers for exactly this reason, with the tips just right there in the system, it made it harder for them to under-report their tips).
>>537911673>The servers don’t want that as they make far more money off tips than a standard wageI can confirm I'm a server and I make way more than the cooks in the kitchen. It's a pretty sweet gig. You just have to be sociable and know how to guilt trip people without making it too obvious.
>>537908776Haha where did you get this idea and quote fromI bet you don’t even credit the original source
Yeah. Yet Americans don't tip UberEats drivers for shit. If you can't walk to get your own McDonald's, you're fat and disgusting.
>>537908139well I didn't believe Denmark had an age of consent of 12 until recently but it was true. The world is a big place, my kiddy diddling frendo.
>>537908139>>537911867Tipping is symptomatic of US feminist culture. It is a sexist scam where the female low grade employees working as waitresses end up being paid twice as much from tips as the male low grade restaurant employee in the kitchen doing incomparably harder work. Yes it is feminist because waitress is a 95% female job in the US for some obscure reason.
its fun not tipping antifa waitresses
>>537908139When it comes to bartenders, $1 per drink is my usual standard. Just feels nice since the vast majority of bartenders I’ve had are chill and make friendly conversation. It’s also a way of thanking them for their service dealing with the occasional drunken animal. I used to get tips back in my retail days loading furniture into peoples cars, so I like to pay it forward.
>>537908139If they are just grabbing a can n9. If they are making me a drink they get a dollar per drink they make me. No more no less. Done that for 15 years though so.
>>537908139Yes. Bartenders in any major city make $120-150 an hour. In recent years people are going to bars less because of infinitely inflating prices.
>>537912119you're not a "server", you're a waiter.
I don't tip anymore because almost everyone is becoming rude or careless, i only tip with exceptional service or if they comp stuff.
>>537908139Just make your own bar.
>>537911673I was in charge of a staff of bartenders in major nyc music venues. they fiend for tips like crack addicts and cry the blues and have mental breakdowns (yes mostly women) if they dont get adequate tips. doing that job for years made me utterly detest tipping in any way. it is extremely jewish yet conversely, that kike trotsky was right about it. this is why greeks on so many restaurants in the US cause they depend on the patronage to pay their staff. its disgustingly jewish.
>>537918722Big alcohol doesn’t want you to know you can just invite your friends over and drink beer out of the fridge or mix some soda and booze for 1/50th the price and have way more fun. I’ve seriously never had more fun drinking at a business than at home. Sitting on my couch with friends watching a shit movie with cheap beer always more appealing than being at a fancy bar with $23 cocktails with bad music blasting so loud you can’t hear anybody talk.
>>537908139A dollar is all I give for a drink. Not my problem if your work charges exorbitant prices. I can get that same $14 drink for $4 at another place. They’re getting a dollar too.
>>537915373Delivery drivers in America are paid pretty well. That wasn't the case a decade ago, but now it is.
>>537918942I’ve never liked the idea of tipping by percentage of cost. It’s ridiculous logic. >oh the owner uncharged this food or drink therefore the tip should also increase, because somehow the service got betterGetting $5-10 per table regardless of meal price would far exceed minimum wage, as long as you aren’t pooling tips and sharing with the cooks, which never made sense to me.
>>537918837>The Year of Our Lorf Two Thousand and Twenty Six>actually having friendsGet a load of this normgroid
>>537908139tipping was always supposed to be a tip, not the alternative for a wage
>>537919201>a small subsidy grows into a massive system of mandatory handouts Who would have guessed
We did it, Reddit!
Apparently tipping started among the aristocracy in England. I guess they used it as a way to show off or something. Average Americans seem to have adopted it as some kind of cargo cult-like imitation.
>>537912119this is my biggest gripe too, most restaurant staff work harder than some bitch that brings plates to the table and go untipped. not to mention waitresses never claim tips on taxes before and the business gets to offload his payroll onto customers.
I always tip a buck. Don’t care, I was a bartender and I was vastly overpaid for the shit I did. Grab your party 4 overpriced champagnes that cost $65? You hit 20% on the tip app and I get $13. Ridiculous really. My shift was 4 hours and my wage was $15 an hour. I would made about $100-200 in tips consistently on top of the wage. I didn’t even care if you didn’t tip because someone else will. Here are the common stereotypes, blacks tip maybe 1 out of 5 times. White almost always tip. If they were on a date they would tip higher. Woman also always tip high. The biggest surprise was it didn’t matter if I over poured, people tip the same they always do regardless of service.
>>537908139One time I asked a bartender for a coke. He handed me a can, and when the card swiper asked for a tip, he just hit $0 right away. Nice guy.
>>537915475Woman are social and pretty. Anything that has to do with facing the public you want a woman. Anything that requires actual work you want a man.
I also hate how taquerias went from paying up front with zero tip to now they bring you a check and you are expected to tip.
>>537908139>pay $14 for a $2.50 beer can>still tipswhat kind of retarded culture is this?
>>537908139>$14 dollar beer That’s 2 days worth of nicotine for a single beer. Gross. I hate how people justify greedy price gouging like this. They’ll be like>well it’s an event>you don’t HAVE to drink beer>well it’s like this everywhereI’m sorry, are you working for the company? The point is it’s unethical and slimly to charge 30x what that beer costs them just because they “can”. We need consumer protection laws in this neoliberal capitalist hellscape.
>>537911582This.>sorry customer you have to pay 3,000% more than it costs us>oh and you have to pay my staff’s salary to because I’m not>if you don’t, you’ll be shamed and get bad service >I don’t make the rules>oh wait, I do>I could just pay my employees like any company does but I won’t
>>537908139I've taken my old hillbilly neighbor dozens of times and he's never paid once.The last time I signed the bill and wrote '0' on the tip line. Then got up to use the bathroom. When I came back the old fucker was leaving cash on the table for a tip. He must have been curious and looked at the bill and saw I didn't tip.Fuck ever buying me dinner but he'll pony up for some lazy bitch waitress?Fucking simp.
>>537910996i just got a notice we’re doing this tonight when we’re not in a world cup city, it’s just that the colombian fans have been starting literal riots and having declined cards consistently lmao
>>537918558more like 50/hr due to split pools but yeah we make lodesomonies
>>537908139The US is fluoridated and circumcised.
>>537911582You don’t understand, white Americans need to keep subsidizing the niggers meals so they can tip $0.It is really depressing thinking about how much money goes towards these literal retards that think they’re people, and they still hate us.
>>537922417Being ruled by foreigners and women is a biblical judgement
>>537911582Making the tipee's income sufficient is not intrinsically what tipping is about. Tipping started back when waiters did make a reasonable wage without it—it just became so ubiquitous that not tipping was seen as you saying that the waiter did a shit job, and now it's spreading beyond the traditional bounds. Systematizing it was a huge mistake, but there's nothing inherently wrong with paying someone extra for going the extra mile.
>>537908139Its Spanish culture...
>>537922884>>537911582Sorry, just to add, I'm not trying to shill against raising waiters' wages, just saying that you could do that and still tip them if they deserve it.
Tipping is gay.
>>537908139>Ask for industry discount>pay for original priceThis is what I usually do. It’s a win-win for me and the bartender; he gets a nice tip and I pay the normal amount.
Leftists hate tipping because they are communist cowards. Let me explain:Tipping is something you don’t have to do. If you don’t like tipping you are the winner of tipping culture! You get cheaper food, and other people voluntarily pay for your service.That is, unless, you are a weak sniveling coward. Then you hate tipping AND you do it anyways.Their solution? Hurt everyone else. Not to save them any money, oh no; but to remove the shame they feel when they write down that tip. The disgrace that burns their soul as they fail to live up to their own principles and surrender to their cowardice.So they want to hurt the people who aren’t cowards most, FORCE them to pay by transferring the wage from tips into the cost of food. They want to hurt the servers by lowering their income, merely for being present as they degraded themselves and receiving the tip they never wanted to give. They want to hit the people who can’t really afford to leave a big tip when they go out to eat, possibly making them unable to afford it at all.But it all stems from their own personal weakness and it’s impossible to not see it: they could simply not tip.That’s all it takes to be a winner. You don’t have to hurt literally everyone, you just have to not be a fucking pussy.But they won’t, because they can’t.Pathetic.
>>537911582cool it with the antisemitism
>>537908139> have toNo one has to do anything, this isn’t europe. It’s just a custom in generosity. People who don’t share food with their house guests, and don’t make eye contact with strangers would never understand being generous with their poverty europoor means (or lack there of)
>>537925345So you tip for a dude to grab a beer for you out the fridge?
>>537911673> The servers don’t want that as they make far more money off tips than a standard wageHow do you commie europeasants not like this approach?>a small amount from a multitude of people benefits each individual
>>537920441>>537915475This is generally true although when I briefly worked as a waiter I got great tips from middle age women that loved me. They were either attracted or I reminded them of their son. Hopefully not both.
>>537911673Yes, there have been several attempts in a few leftist blue cities in the US to increase the minimum wage and eliminate tips for waitstaff and bartenders. These efforts usually fail because the strongest opposition comes from people in the service industry that these measures are supposed to be helping. Bartenders in the US at any decent place can easily earn six figures from tips alone.
>>537925504I’d give him $1 for every two beers I’d order. Or sit at the bar and have a few and then leave him $2 when I close out my tab. It’s nothing.
Tipping seems one of those arbitrary things that solely exist to make people worse off. >option 1: see price on menu, you can plan ahead buying as much as you can afford. Server comes in, you pay, the end.>option 2: every time you interact with someone you gotta start doing math on how much do you need to bribe someone to do their salaried job without them punishing you for it somehow, mentally prepare for the negotiation that happens when they start launching their practised guilt trip acting lessons on you
>>537908139>They have to tip their bartender???? Obviously you don't have to, that's why it's a tip and not just however much they charge.But the "Canadians" (niggers) and cheapskates who don't give tips then end up getting ignored by the bartenders, or get shitty watered down drinks.Meanwhile the people who have reputations as good tippers get VIP service, never have to wait on a new drink, and regularly get hooked up with free drinks. If you leave good tips, you end up getting so many free drinks that it doesn't actually cost you more than the cheapass no tippers who never get anything comped.
>>537908139bartender here1 dollar for one beer is fine as long as its cashif its a card and you are buying one by one then you should do 2 or hit the atm you fucking retard
>>537926189>you can plan ahead buying as much as you can afford.Stop being poor. If you have to do math to know which menu items you can afford, then you can't actually afford to go to restaurants or bars.>every time you interact with someone you gotta start doing math on how much do you need to bribe someone to do their salaried job without them punishing you for it somehow,It's really not that hard. Only complete retards need to actually do math to figure out how much tip to leave. Most people don't really even need to think about it, they will just round up an appropriate amount or leave an extra $10 or $20 or whatever. >mentally prepare for the negotiation that happens when they start launching their practised guilt trip acting lessons on youStop being so neurotic and anxious. That literally never happens. No one actually cares that much. Most of the time they won't even look to see how much tip you left until you are long gone. And even if they do, all they are going to do is roll their eyes and talk shit about you being a cheap nigger with the other waitstaff.
>>537908139one more thing you dumb fucksthe idea behind tipping came from>successful business has large amount of customers due to quality of food or entertainment>if you want to be served before the next person you should offer more money on top of what the cost of the goods were>this became tipping and employers abused the idea by not paying their employees because of the tips coming inIF YOU DONT TIP YOU ARE IN THE BACK OF THE LINE
its more about the gesture isnt itmandatory tipping makes no sense to me
>>537908776>don't tipIf you go to these places, you should follow the custom, which is to tip>don't go to these places This is the correct solution. You aren't "stealing" the person's services, nor are you supporting a business that relies on customers paying the employees. You simply don't go.I spend $300 on food each month. I try to stretch my dollar a bit. I will never be fat. Most people would benefit from avoiding places that demand tips
>>537910996Yeah I pay the price and the needed tax, your gratitude is double taxation.Fuck this shit, show my the price I have to pay.If we can make shit up I get 50% off for being such a nice guy.>>537915373Yeah they get more than enough with all the extra shit I have to pay for using those apps, prices are like 250% so I assume the drivers get a big cut of that money.>>537920975>Fuck you Annon then I would have to pay taxes on my earnings.
>>537908139Of course you have to tip the bartender. Why would you tip a waitress and not a bartender? Do you just not tip in Europe at all? That's not how I remember it.
>>537911673they would have to pay taxes on higher wages like everybody else
>>537928029Why would you tip someone for handing you a drink from the fridge?
>>537927924>If we can make shit up I get 50% off for being such a nice guy.are you a dumb fuck?Cook your own food and make your own drinksotherwise, when you go to a place that makes them for you, you tip the staff for their serviceor just be ignored because we dont have to serve you
>>537928788>Why would you tip someone for handing you a drink from the fridge?so they hand you a drink from the fridge dont tip, no service good luck impressing the girl you just met at the bar when the staff serve everyone whos tipping before you, if they serve you at all
>>537928788Why do you pay anyone to do anything?No one is just going to stand there handing people drinks if they aren't getting paid to do it.
>>537908139> eating anything that strangers have cooked and handledOkily dokily leperinos.
>>537908139Meanwhile bartenders here give you free stuff (mostly shots) if you buy a few drinks and behave like a decent human being. No tip expected
>>537928945Just give me the fucking price in the beginning.Add those 20% from the start.Not in the fine print my 20$ meal is now 24 which is fine, just dont try to jew me.
>>537911582REPORTED
>>537927766Go to a restaurant supply store sometime and read labels. Restaurants buy the cheapest crap there is and prepare it any way that lets them get the highest possible markup/margins. I spend about $350 a month, cook at home, and eat like a king. The idea of spending that much every couple weeks on restaurant crap and taxes and tips is insane. I know people who talk about how that much for an evening of dinner and gambling at the local casino is "an economical night out."
>>537929038this isn’t a service it’s his job description
>>537908139So how do tips work with credit cards?Americans hate cash. Handing out $100 bill except in expensive places like NYC is frowned upon. Everyone just uses credit cars.So when you tip using a credit card by adding $20 to the bill, that goes through payment processor and lands in the bank account of the establishment. The IRS probably would know about transaction and tax the corporate income / profits.How does the credit card tip flow from payment processor through the owner to waiting staff?
>>537912119Funny how the mutinies always come from back of the house..
>>537929931>Go to a restaurant supply store sometime and read labels.You don't even need to do that. I'll just tell you that the actual cost of ingredients for a restaurant meal will only be ~28-35% of the menu price.However, that's because ingredients aren't the only expense. The menu price charged to customers also has to cover all the non-tipped wages, rent, equipment, depreciation, spoilage, utilities, licensing, advertising, etc. It's basically the math equation that the whole business operates around. If a restaurant has an $18 cheeseburger on the menu, then all of the ingredients to make the cheeseburger cost them ~$6. If people aren't willing to pay $18 for a cheeseburger, then it doesn't go on the menu unless you want a loss leader because you would lose money and eventually go out of business charging less than $18 for cheeseburgers with $6 worth of ingredients. If started charging significantly more than $18 for a cheeseburger that only has $6 of ingredients, people won't pay it more than once.>them get the highest possible markup/margins No, that's not how it works at all. Restaurants have extremely low profit margins. That's why so many of them go out of business a few months after they open. Profit margins on most menu items are razor thin.
>>537930688>So how do tips work with credit cards?It varies depending on what system the place is using. Usually, they will give you the bill telling you that you owe $19.89 or whatever for your meal. You give them your card, they swipe it and give you two paper receipts. One you keep and one you write down however much you want to leave for a tip and the total amount and you sign.The $19.89 charge goes through right away as a pending charge.But then at some point, the staff will take all of the paper receipts and go through them and manually enter the tip amount to finalize the transaction. And after this happens, it usually takes a day or two for the full charge to be updated on your credit card amount with the tip included.The restaurant's same POS system will also keep track of who gets however much of each tip or however they want to split them up among the staff. There will be individual records for every transaction and tip amount, with the paper receipts as a backup copy if needed, it's not like it just dumps everything into a big pile of money with no way of knowing how to divide it up.>The IRS probably would know about transaction and tax the corporate income / profits.The credit card processors and banks the restaurant uses will send tax documents to the restaurant and IRS with the necessary information.The individual workers will also receive tax forms detailing how much they earned. But Trump eliminated most income taxes on tips so they can just deduct those when they do their taxes.
>>537908139Tip at an actual bar not a movie theater. If you tip in a busy bar the bartender will usually try to prioritize you over those that don't tip.
>>537908139If you're buying more than one drink hold off on tipping until the end.
>>537932967So they can just put whatever number they want two days later and you will likely never notice it?How does that even work lol
I don't tip wagecucks. I do generously "tip" people working for themselves, or under the table. Tipping people you hire to fix/help/whatever something makes them say working for you is good and also want to come back if you need them again. I tipped my roofer several hundred dollars and dude calls me back in a couple days asking if I need more work in a bunch of other stuff done. Tipped some local teens (actual teens, not niggers) who helped me with shit in my yard good money and they keep asking me if I have anymore work I need done Tipping a wagecuck has zero benefit other than pitying them, which I don't care about. If you ever hire anyone, offer them a rate slightly higher than wagecuck level, then give them a tip after, they feel like they have struck some secret even though really all you are doing is paying them a reasonable wage. Also don't hire niggers, they are dogshit at work.
>>537908139It's called extortion.They do it to customers because they're drug addicts who are too comfortable and dumb to do anything to improve their lives because being a waitress isn't a real job worth anything. They walk shit from point A to point B, less than 50 ft.Alcohol waitress, wait, you used the word bartender, is even worse. They sit in the same spot and crack open a $3 beer for you, thinking that entitles them to a $15 tip."I'm serving you"If you just point me to where the shit is, I'll go get it myself if I don't have to deal with your drug-addled incompetence. For some reason that's "against the rules" and "not allowed."Like driving yourself to the hospital isn't allowed. If you drive yourself, the ambulance companies can't charge you an $8000 tip for an uber ride to the hospital.
>>537908139the only thing I’m tipping for is a sheila to suck my big fat aussie cock
Why the fuck would anyone tip for anything ever? The service or product has a set price. If you want more money put it in the price. Also why the fuck would i tip the server who moved a plate 10 meters from the kitchen to my table? I can walk into the kitchen and get my plate for myself no problem.fishermen -> truck driver -> chef -> serverin this exchange i would rather tip literally anyone else but the guy who moved my plate 10 meters. everyone else in the process of putting my food on the plate actually did real work.
Why is all cutlery (silverware) plastic in USA. A stainless steel fork costs less than a dollar, typical meal is like north of 50 bucks all included?In Europe no non-fast food restaurant would get away with plastic.
>>537933053what if you don't live in america and no one tips?
>>537934824americans would tip their fishermen if they could
>>537934954They probably don't want to deal with washing them, most americans use plastic at home as well
>>537925196>Tipping is something you don’t have to do.yeah they're just gonna spit and cum in your food if you don't, no big deal
>>537908139mutts are moron fat lazy sack of shitso when a corp do something, they obey like retard, and they can't challenge it because they are lazy and also low IQ.meanwhile, if an individual do the same thing, they are willing to shoot and die for it, so as long as it comes from a corp, everything is allowed perfect goyim mindset, they got buckbroken by jews
>>537935325tipping happens after the food is ate how are you going to know who's going to tip and who won't unless its a repeat customer?
>>537908139I avoid going to places where tipping is expected. I dont really go to sit down dinners at restaurants, I usually order stuff to go if I eat out.
>>537933561yes, up until recently cards in the US where swipe cards, so they don't need any chip or pass or anything, just swipe and go!!
>>537935525plenty of people order online
>>537910996This feels liable to sue for.Just throwing on 15-20% because fuck you i 'deserve' it.A tip is earned, not guaranteed.
>>537936340But don't you also tip when you order online, before the food reaches you? Are you eligible for a refund on your tip if it is late and cold
It's not my fault your boss pays you too little so he or she can get drunk off their ass all the time.I'm sorry, but I am not the cause of your misery and failute to understand that only you can fix it (not me).
>>537908139I tip for bartender advice and multiple high effort cocktails they slip extra alcohol into. I tip local restaurants that give me bigger than normal portions. My local Moe's will give me triple meat for no extra charge. My $3 tips there make the staff happy and is far cheaper than what I'd pay for the actual value of the bowl. Two huge meals for $12+3
>>537911159I smuggle shit into the theaters. No way in hell I'm paying their gouging prices.
>>537908139No. Lots of places are ever hopeful and put tip jars out even if all they do is hand you a sandwich because of cucks like this guy. I do not tip anyone who is not actually a waitress or so forth and I haven't seen anyone else I know do it either.
>>537934954>Why is all cutlery (silverware) plastic in USA. It's not. I have no idea why you think this. Is this something you've seen in American movies or something?All actual non-fast food restaurants in the US use metal utensils and ceramic plates for regular service. You only get disposable utensils if you are picking up a takeout order to go, and they will throw some disposable utensils in the bag in case you need them. And sometimes at very casual places like barbeque restaurants that have outdoor seating so they don't have to deal with people dropping and breaking plates or throwing away silverware.>>537935131>most americans use plastic at home as wellAlso not true at all. Most Americans use normal metal utensils and ceramic dishes at home. I'm sure there are some people that use plastic utensils and paper plates for every meal, but that is not the norm or common at all. Plastic utensils and paper plates are normally only used for things like parties and cookouts, not just regular everyday meals.
>>537936340>This feels liable to sue for.Not at all. Are you retarded? Have you never actually been to a restaurant?It is very common and normal to automatically add an 18-20% gratuity for any large party of 6-8 or more. It's really just a way to deal with niggers and foreigners trying to cheap out and not leave tips, but you would get sued if you had an automatic gratuity for anyone who is a nigger or foreign.
