So are ACs banned or something in the EU? What's going on? Is it a power thing? Isn't France like 70% nuclear?
>>537909006Banning AC is akin to eugenics against elderly white people in favor of tropical migrant people. It's just another tool in the Jew toolbox.
>>537909006UK isn't in the EU thank God.
>>537909006As I understand it most everyone can get one installed, a simple minisplit instead of doing major home reno for central, but they just choose not to. Its perplexing. The Eurofags who do get minisplits installed absolutely rave about them nonstop. I think the biggest group who are cucks about this issue are in England. Maybe in certain municipalities they won't grant the permits to let home owners install them.
>>537909441Why do you guys find it hard to understand that most people just dont want to get one for a few days a year?>why dont people in Florida have a bunch of snow equipment??
>>537909360Yeah but France and Germany are thoughI mean EU HQ literally turned it off for the goyim staffed offices
>>537909817You retards have a significant number of people who die during heatwaves every year.
>>537909006>in the EUThere's no common law for EU on household AC.And as far as I know, the heaviest restrictions are found in the UK and Switzerland, neither of which are in the EU.
Heatwaves are the last natural predator of boomer wealth hoarders. AC would take this away.
>>537909006where we are means we rarely get extreme weatherits why we crumble in the snowand also why its pointless to install ACI would use it maybe 14 days a year, if thatIts just not worth the money investing in heat or cold weather stuff here
>feigning ignorancetiresome
>>537909817>Why do you guys find it hard to understand that most people just dont want to get one for a few days a year?You realize that due to climate change those few days are going to turn into weeks, then into months?
>>537909952>the heaviest restrictions are found in the UK You must get your news from jewish propoganda. There are no legal restrictions on AC is the UK.
>>537909817More people die to lack of AC in Europe than die to gun violence in the USA every year. It sounds fake, but I promise you its not. Look it up
>>537909817They have heaters LOL
>>537909006>leaves seal tight whip on the ground like a fucking nigger
>>537909286Based. Fuck old people and anyone else who can't handle the heat. If whites were truly the "master race", they'd be comfortable in any climate.
>>537909441never understimate the stupidity of idiotstl;dr they put one unit in the wrong place and get mad because they get sick, when you tell them where and what they think it's too expensive and they will just "make do", because summer "lasts little" and "I'd rather spend that money on a two weeks vacation", which is funny because our summers now last from may to october, they use fans...and they buy portable units for their elder family members instead of giving them something well made and that will use little energy, and don't let me start about "muh architecture, it will look UGLY on the outside I don't want an UGLY BLOCK OF METAL ON MUH ARCHITECTURALLY BOUJEE HOUSE"
>>537910417Hmmm I just used the Google ai but it confirmed what you said
>>537909006ACs are banned in places where installing an outer unit on a facade is a breach of the building code. meaning you cannot be a nigger and just put shit from wealmart on your house while the whole neighborhood has stained glass windows and outer walls made from stone
>>537909006Yup, their tight little paper mache power grid can't handle the big girthy american a/c unit.
>>537909006Where I'm from it's so humid you can't live without air conditioning. I even use mine in the winter months. So it's hard for me to fathom that there are places that don't have them. How uncivilized.
>>537909441Minisplits are for trailer trash and brown island asiansThey are for poorfags lmfao
the house i rent now has A/C but probably because i live with my landlord. Living without it is horrible
>>537910515>If whites were truly the "master race"Only you say this.Whites just want to remigrate the non-whites and jews from all western nations. Has nothing to do with "le hierarchy".if you support multiculturalism you support a weakened society un-immunised to malevolent influence.if you support multiculturalism you support the lack of self agency, self accomplishment, and self deliberation for all groups involved. Instead, various groups must have their destinies guided as some intermixed tangle of yarn by some non-belonging central authority (jews).End multicult.
>>537909006I'm not left by any stretch, but I'm really hesistant to use AC because not only do I think it's a waste of money but it's also unnatural. I'm not against comfort on principle but summers should be summers and winters should be winters. That whole 24/7 lights on always on wi-fi pick-up truck going nowhere bullshit rots the soul. You're not supposed to have the perfect temperature all year. I want to feel the rain, walk through the gusts of snow, sweat in the sun, and see the stars at night while enjoying a cool breeze. That said, they're also going to use for leverage against you. Once they introduce the smart jew to your AC it will be tied to your social credit score and if you say something bad at work your AC privileges will be revoked until your attitude has improved.
>>537909006ACs are not banned in the EU but there are a lot of leftards here who want you to feel guilty for having an AC because you'll feel less of the terrible man-made climate change that way (they don't want you to be allowed to feel comfortable since they've declared you a guilty sinner) and offcially because they use so much energy.The latter is nonsense ofcourse, since the same people that are vehemently against AC also want you to install heat pumps. An AC and a heat pump is the exact same thing. They also never point out that many people have solar panels and days like today that solar energy flows directly into the AC units. It's all bullshit to make you feel guilty, as usual. Oh, and one more thing: the news outlets that ragebait you about this, all have airconned offices themselves.
I have 30 degrees in my room right now.Literally cooking alive here.Outside it is 36.
>>537911276As a European always remember to replenish your electrolytes. water alone simply isn't enough
>>537911443Will Brawndo work?
>>537909441Most Dutch people got a portable unit 3 or 4 years ago when we got hit with 38°C.You won't find many of us bitching about the heat. The necessity for AC, yes, but not the heat itself.Our architecture isn't designed for dumping heat. They're heatsinks. Great for the winter, uninhabitable in the summer unless you use AC which ironically costs more than heating in the winter would.
>>537911828Why is that ironic My electricity bill in July will probably be like 300 dollars mostly from running ACMy gas bill is never over 150 in winter for heatingCooling is way less efficient and therefore more costly than heating>t. Michigan
>>537910417>>537910563Yeah, it's fake. Because one of those stats is measured, other is only estimated
>>537909006Happiness is banned in the EU. This includes air conditioning, opening windows, decent food, not being stabbed by browns, etc.
>>537911930Whats your gas bill in summer? Do the math.
>>537911930It's ironic because the buildings are designed to heatmaxx to save money.The moneysaving design is costing more money than the "inefficient" design would.
>>537912103Maybe 50 bucksOnly use gas in summer for the hot water and the stove
>>537909935The weak should fear the strong
>>537909006Euros fear the big box unit.
athletes don't have this problem. we're megadosing salt and magnesium, drinking and sweating gallons of water lole
>>537909006>AC sucks energy >Turns your muscles into ice>Uses chemicals like freon that fucks the environment Yeah no thanks, I have a fan
>>537910380>2 more weeksarigatou gore-san
>>537912469Cope
>>537912281You're right. The only English who deserved to live became American. Its why they're such a lowly and pathetic people now.
>>537912040OI WHERE'S YOU'RE RANCH LICENSE
>>537910479They do not in Texas and die because it's cold.LMAO
>>537909817You get heatwaves every year but you only die once.
>>537909006Their grid is dogshit so their government spends a great deal to propagandize them. It isnt defacto illegal for the most part.
>>537909935you had hundreds of people freeze to death in texas why don't you have insulation and heating?
I’m going to explain this in great detail once and then copy it into every single thread for as long as I live.a) Historical BackgroundCentral Europe (France, Germany, etc.) traditionally had no issues with extreme heat. Historical weather data shows how rarely maximum daily temperatures exceeded 30°C. In Germany, this figure used to be just 2–4 days per year. Today, that number has risen to 10–14 days. Historically, why should anyone have worried about 2–4 hot days a year? Why would you buy an air conditioner for just a few warm days?b) Architectural BackgroundBuildings in Central Europe were designed to retain heat. Thick stone and brick walls, once warmed up, help keep indoor temperatures stable. In summer (as has been the case for centuries), windows were simply left open at night. Even when daytime temperatures climbed above 28°C, nighttime temperatures usually dropped to between 14–18°C, which provided a natural and effective way to cool the building down.c) The Rapid Pace of Human-Caused Climate ChangeUntil just a few years ago, it was unimaginable that temperatures would consistently reach this high. When I was young, days above 30°C were still referred to as "scorching heat." Twenty years ago, we would get the day off from school whenever the thermometer tipped past 30°C. Now, 30°C has become the absolute norm for a Central European summer. The number of hot days has tripled or quadrupled in less than 50 years.d) Historic PreservationHistoric preservation in Europe is incredibly strict. Many buildings are hundreds of years old, and altering the facade to install AC split-units is generally prohibited. This challenge extends to modern rentals, because landlords are not legally mandated to install air conditioning units in new buildings.In short: It is a case of incredibly rapid climate development colliding with restrictive preservation laws and a deeply ingrained "we've always done it this way" mindset. t. civil-engineer
Reminder: europeans mocked us for living in "toothpick homes" (easily ventilated homes) for 15 years and deserve to fucking roast in their ovens
>>537909006Electricity price is tied to gas in the EU due to said plants. Despite the madness of 2022 there's been no change in this stance.
>>537912770>hundreds No. It was like 12 people 2023 which was one of the worst storms in recent history for Texas. You stupid fucking moron. You absolute buffoon. You complete and utter joke of life.
>>537910596Ah, a nationwide HOA then. An even more hilarious excuse. It's their house, let them put what they want.
>>537912770but we do. plus the freeze was a power outage from GE being greedy with their renewables and the windmills freezing up, not people refusing to run heating.in america we have more extreme weather to worry about. yuros don't know shit about hurricanes and tornadoes
>>537912862We surely showed them by dying because it was 60 fahrenheit in Texas.LMAO, our toothpick homes didn't save us there for some reason
>>537910532>I'd rather spend that money on a two weeks vacationI'm 100% sure that's what their wives say
>>537912929>>537912975https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power_crisis> At least 246 people were killed directly or indirectly,[3] with some estimates as high as 702 killed as a result of the crisis.[4]>A little snow>nearly 750 people died
>>537912985I never noticed all those crucifixes, lol, Jesus hates you and your house or maybe it's the wrong religion and Allah is mad.Funny either way
>>537913032They dindu nuffin. They literally voted for this and died because of it kek
>>537909817Funny you should say that because last year it did in fact snow where I live in Florida. It was pretty cool to see but as noted we didn't have any equipment to deal with it so the roads and city shut down for emergency services only. Still a shit comparison because it only snows in FL once a decade, where as you know it's going to get hot as hell (to you brits) in June/July
>>537913032I gave you the reason. the grid failed because of GE greed. read the article. it was not because of americans stubbornly refusing to run heating like yuros do AC
>>537913032>liberal wikipedia bullshit Getting in a car accident and dying because the roads are icy does not equate to freezing to death.
>>537913203It was because of the Texas government and their incompetence and not GE greed. Even still imagine dying because of a little snow
>>537913032>all these people died from freezingWhere does it say that? Then you have the dumb niggers turning on gas burners and bringing grills into their houses getting fucked by monoxide. Texas’ infrastructure is built vertically and in curves, it’s not meant for ice, which is what we get down here; it’s snow for all of 2 seconds after hitting the ground
>>537909006uh AC is killing the planet?
Norfs have this issue every single summer yet they still refuse to get AC.There is a reason they all flee south during the summer months and it's because everyone here has AC and the homes aren't made to trap heat, we have tall ceilings.
>>537912783europeans really can't afford a window unit? yet you can afford manhours to make me laugh every year with your suffering
>>537913274>GE which installs and maintains pretty much all the wind and natural gas turbines fails to winterize them and ercot fails to care about it>they fail in freak -20c weatherincompetence on both sides sure. still less people dying than in europe every year from heat when your grid is perfectly functional
>>537913032You euros have no idea what actual inclement weather is. It's laughable you think the deathtoll in Germany wouldn't be 5x if you had an ice storm hit you.
>>537913417AC doesn't kill the planet.Petroleum doesn't kill the planet.Nuclear sometimes doesn't kill the planet.Coal doesn't kill the planet.You know what really kills the planet? Mako reactors. They literally suck up the planet's collective consciousness primordeal soup and cause Third Impact and white haired trannies.
>>537909817Dude, even Canadians have AC, and many of them live in places where it's basically winter for half the year.
>>537909006>So are ACs banned or something in the EU?no, you're just literally fucking retarded subhuman, I have a 4kW heat pump thats capable of making it so cold here its unlivable
>>537909006WE DID NOT NEED IT UNTIL NOW.WHAT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
>>537909006I can easily get an AC and solar panels to reduce the electricity bill.
>>537909006I really love how mutts and muttlets pretend that they’re the only one with acWhole shitholestans have them installed Lmao
>>537909286>Jew toolbox.Euro monarchs are Jews?
>>537909006turning on our acs will make it hotter outsidet. a eurocuck
>>537909360I’ll gonna miss this cutie.
>>537913743>Why did you spend $125 on a window unit? We don't do that, in Germany
>>537910403There is, yes. In London.
>>537913892>Euro monarchs are Jews?newfag
>>537910210Do you have AC in your house you monarch cuck?
>>537913892American education everyone.
latitude has been the historical reason also the grandparents/parents generation of current adults might've been super poor in many regions in eu, much poorer than american counterparts so they didnt get in on the AC thing at the same timenow poors get portable ac units that cost few hundred euros that are only used a couple weeks in a year, and middle class install heat pumps
>>537909006Yeah coppers are going house by house in white communities and making sure all AC units are removed for politician and migrant homes. There is a hierarchy. If any whites refuse they coppers have full government direction to execute the AC delinquents.
>>537911276
>>537910403>There are no legal restrictions on AC is the UK.Nigger you aren't even allowed to open windows fully in the UK because children's can fall out of them.So you have cuck-straps that keep the window at most only 10% open.
>>537909006Air conditioning is fascist.When you cool off your living space, what you're actually doing is creating a comfortable climate for Hitler.
>>537913977i have a mobile one with a window frame adapter which i bring out when my wife complainslolyou niggers are basically arabsjust the tip status?
>>537913238>Getting in a car accident and dying because the roads are icy does not equate to freezing to death.It's ironic you should say this because all the 'heat deaths' in Europe that Americans are memeing about are some ultraboomers dying of heart attacks then it gets recorded as """""heat""""" causing it
>>537910596Do you have to get approval to fuck your wife as well?
>>537914086True. America is just hotter in general. The map comparison really shows it
>>537914448>living in an oven causes body to cease normal function and die>this is the same thing as cars losing traction to the road and hitting someone elseOne is direct and the other indirect, you blithering retard
HEYDAS DARFST DU NICHT!>reportedHehehehe
>>537909006The eco-freaks lobby is powerful in western yurope, that's why. Funnily enough they never talk about reducing the earth population because it's racist.
>>537915826What's even more funny you know?EU thinking they could start a trade war with China and win it, after ridiculing the Trump for doing the same.
>>537913005100%
>>537911125Don't worry global warming will collapse the AMOC you're gonna get cool like Canada. This is what climate science actually says.
>>537909006Mini splits are super efficient. Easy to designate which rooms you want to cool.
>>537910515Nigger faggot, we literally invented HVAC so that we could occupy the entire planet after conquering it.Now, go eat all your seeds so you can starve next year.
burgers, redpill me on a solutionwhat do you use to heat and cool? does the aircon do both (primary source) or do you supplement it with other things? using the aircon as a primary heater isn't viable as electric is over 4 times the cost of gas per kwhi have a portable unit and it works, but i don't really like the clutter and it goes away when it coolsin the uk we mainly use gas boilers and radiators for heat - so no central air/ducts like the US so the alternatives seem to be the existing heating and a split unit for cooling... not ideal
>>537913990>>537914057Bombastic
>>537916147>climate scienceWhen the weather-skank tells you that it feels hot, you actually start sweating, right?
>>537916401Typically our electric air conditioning and heat(electric or natural gas) are tied together as a central unit. Furnace inside, condenser fan unit outside.Some locales will use supplemental heat pumps or swamp coolers but those are more specific applications.Minisplit single room coolers are becoming way more common here as well for both residences and commercial businesses. My family farm house built in 1908 just had a minisplit installed in it.
Basically theres a couple of factors leading to low adoption of AC in residential settings in EuropeBear in mind most commercial and public buildings have AC as part of their HVAC systemThe first is cost. European housing stock is generally old and much sturdier in terms of construction compared to American buildings. Meaning retrofitting AC systems into these buildings is difficult and thus expensive.Regulatory hurdles. Additions to buildings often require some form of planning permission from local authorities. Karens and boomers often don't like to see changes to buildings for fear of it affecting their house price. >"Oh look that building has an ugly AC unit bolted onto the side of it! Oh woe surely this will make our house worth less because it damages the scenic beauty of the area"This is because in Europe houses are almost entirely investment or rent extraction tools. Energy costs are also a factor as energy can be rather pricey in Europe on account of governments being dum and the USA also being dum.That isn't to say we're not seeing change. Smaller portable aircon systems are becoming increasingly popular especially with so many now stuck in rented accommodationAs boomers die off and housing stops being an investment vehicle we'll likely see planning rules change dramatically, the desire among younger generations does seem to be for much more lax planning rules.
>>537914338That's just in motel's (which are nearly always air-conditioned) to stop drunk idiots from falling out at 3am.
>>537909006I'm not sure what the purpose of /int/ even is anymore. Just normalfag chatter but in languages other than English?You get banned for fucking everything on there nowadays.
>>537909006>Isn't France like 70% nuclear?We pump out a shitload of it to prevent the powergrid of multiple neighbors from collapsing, which would collapse our industries and then our economiesWe're a bit short on energy because we're being nice to the collosal retards that surround us
>>537914860The only people dying are people that could die from a gust of wind anyway
>>537909006ACs fuck with Germanies oven's and are hence banned
I don’t have AC either. I live in Pennsylvania so it only gets unbearably hot for a few weeks every year. I just tough it out with cold showers, open windows, and a few fans.
>>537909286Killing your entire elderly population instead of paying out welfare and retirement benefits a morale progressive policy, like throwing your broken tools away when the job is done.
>>537909441>As I understand it most everyone can get one installedIf you are a rentoid then you cannot do any work on the wall, much less the outer wall. Even condo's are very rarely allowed to make work on the outer wall which is a requirement for non-shit AC.
>>537916553and that is still done through the same ducts? ie the separate furnace and cooling just come out as hot/cold air around the house from the same places?this is the problem over here, the construction of housing and existing heating systems makes that very difficultbecause the heating is hot water and radiators, just bolting on a condenser outside and using the same system can't be done, and the housing doesn't really accommodate replacing that with air ducts this means unless you're massively renovating (it'll still be a lot of work) then split systems plus the existing system are only really the solution and it still needs working through old constructed brick houses with limited space and solid wallsthis is why a lot over here put it off as it's still a lot of work to install around the house on top of what you already have (now an indoor split unit in key rooms plus the radiators)... you would use a lot more when installed, but really my portable unit is on a few weeks a yearif it was just a matter of sticking a condenser outside and running it through existing air ducts then a lot more would have it...
>>537909286>Eugenics against the oldPretty sure almost nobody plans to reproduce after 80.So it's simply measures to cull the perma-useless leeches.Based, but not eugenic in any way.
>>537917188Another big part of the issue
>>537917043>Buy a hammer to nail wood in your home>Hammer is fucking retarded and destroys everything without hammering a single nailYeah, it's time we got rid of it.
>>537909935Same story when a fat senior with 9 comorbidities died to covid. Show me a story that's not a bunch of shitskins drowning where they shouldn't swim, shitskins leaving their kids in cars or some 90 yr old grandma. There's no way a healthy actual European dies to heat.
>>537909441There is resistance in countries. But it falls in two categorises. UK. Where grid can't take it if everyone goes to US style AC. Thus UK is trying to slow down instalment rate to Dave their grid. Part of London metropolitan areas are in crisis level. They have slowed down new building permits becouse grid can't take it. Then there is heat island countries. Some European cities are designed in way where potential for catastrophic heat island effect is possible. heat island effect is when you build your city in way where tempeture ends up being higher then outside of city. Lot of dark asphalt surfaces without cover. High urban density. No way to proper wind blow through. AC also makes this worse. You blow more hot air into city. This is France. They fear massive heat island effects in some cities if AC becomes common place. In both cases they are fucking idiots for trying lie. Cheat and threatened people nit to get AC. Rather then say it stright
>>537917163There is style of heat pumps that you don't need to instalation at all. Just be little clever how to get outside unit outside and inside unit inside. That what I have and it's perfect.
>>537916904It's great isn't it. When handful of retarted countries who can't generate electricity are dragging rest of the europe down.
>>537909360It seems UK left EU because they wanted to be even more retarded.It is like Albania severing ties with Commitern because they wanted to be even more retarded than entire commie block
>>537909006I have several minisplits in my house. It's like a fucking meat locker. I can't have it warmer than 65F.
>>537912783In the time it took you to write your gay essay, you could have ordered a window unit to be shipped to your house and installed.
>>537909006Nuclear power means nothing when you have to shut them down because the cooling water is too hot and is also drying up.
>>537914300The energy required to freeze water would cause more heat than you would lose by doing that.
>>537909935>You retards have a significant number of people who die during heatwaves every year.Why would me installing AC in my house in denmark prevent random elderly or weak people in france or spain from dying from heatstroke?
>>537917163Just get a window one. You just open the window and put it in and then seal up the gaps.For me I only need to run it at night in my bedroom if its over 30 degrees.
>>537909006Euros have been propagandized to death to believe it is somehow bad. Their climate is cool and dry enough that they really only need it for brief periods in many places, so the propaganda is easier to sell. Also they are all poor as fuck and AC is expensive as hell to install and maintain.
>>537918159>cannot into closed loop coolingngmi
>>537917277yeah theres literally no viable way of routing airducts through houses like this... can't route them through between floors and can't route them through walls as they are solid brick even on the interiorall our heating is through small copper/plastic water pipes which can work though this and not fuck up the structural supports... leaves split units the only real solution which isn't ideal as you still face those issues with getting it to the right places within the house and still need the heating system already in placeits not as simple as some are making it out to be when you weigh up whats needed to get it installed
>>537909006We have bathroom since the 70's, lot of places in Paris still don t have bathroom, you share your shitter and shower with like 10 others appartements. AC is for rich people, it s extremely frowned upon, like buying a nice car. You doesn t need bathroom or AC, you can just wear parfum to cover your nasty sweat and shitty ass smell. Parlez moi d amour dites moi des choses tendres...
>>537912770this is a good point and more texans should die because they are retarded kike loving angloids, but they are not government mandated to not install insulation.
>>537917188Yeah, the US has the huge advantage of most of our housing being < 100 years old, made of easily modified materials and designed for HVAC. Retrofitting 300+ year old homes for HVAC is somewhere between very impractical and impossible. I always wandered, without AC, does the UK not have a terrible problem with black mold? The whole place looks wet 90% of the year.
>>537909006It's a Southerner thing.We Finns are getting ACs in increasing quantities as nordics are not meant to live in 25 plus temperatures.
There are tales in Europe of giant cities in a faraway land across the sea, each building with its own self-contained climate. It could control the indoor climate using esoteric technology, and some would even say that it’s magic. Many primitive European tribes say that the cities were built by the gods, but their more contemporary counterparts simply refer to the builders as “Americans”.
>>537918426This whole thing makes no sense to Americans because you keep talking about 'Europe' as if Finland and Italy are the same country
>>537918571Yeah splits are the answer, but they are much more expensive and less efficient than central units. Also ugly as hell so the historic preservation faggots won't like it.
>>537918159France has a huge coastline of ocean. Use that.
>>537918208good thing my fridge is in the kitchen and not my bedroom and that I need to run it 24/7 anyway
>>537918826Yeah but we have all those same climate situations + subtropical hells like Florida and AC is still common in all of them. Even when it is not hot, it is nice to have humidity control. All you guys need to do is start making your houses out of particle board dogshit like we do and you are all set.
>>537918426Kek this fucking "Europoor" meme is the most autistic shit /pol/ has invented in a long time.I make roughly 3000 USD after tax.Meanwhile my rent + all bills is roughly 600 USD.That leaves me with 2400 USD per month to do whatever I want. I maybe spent 400-500 USD on food per month.Now since /pol/, youtube and other social media is feeding me daily on the state of the average americans economic situation, I am almost 100% certain that most Swedes lives mroe comfortably than you fat fucks.Also lets not forget the winning argument: my healthcare and university is free. Paid by my taxes, taxes that still leaves me with enough money to play around with each month as stated above.I even get paid for going to uni (dont believe me? ask chatgpt what CSN is in Sweden).Now shut the fuck up and pay for my defence budget you dumb burger zogbot. Dont forget to tip your waiter.
>>537918216why would you care if old people die? they had a good life. They got to live in the best of times. They had sex daily with multiple partners.
>>537912783>30 degrees>Scorching*Does math*That's 86 Freedom degrees.Uncomfortable, but not scorching.Pussies.
>>537909817>why dont people in Florida have a bunch of snow equipment??I live in N Fla and my house was built in the 50s and has 2 fireplaces in it. Gets chilly in late Dec/Jan/Feb. Got down to 19 degrees one night last year. Snow is pretty rare but does happen every blue moon, unlike you guys that do get very hot every summer. a non comparison.
>>537911125It's not unnatural to use A/C to sleep comfortably at night when the climate is no longer cooling down like it always has. It's only unnatural to step indoors to a refrigerated house sitting at 20 C on a hot summer day. That's too much of a cold shock, it ruins your ability to handle heat.
>>537909006Frogs shut down their nuclear power plants during summer
>>537918838yeah it's the main issueThe discourse around it has been funny to watch, but it's not through lack of wanting or even cuck regulationsit's down to the trade offs of only really having splits as the solution, having the unit (or multiple units outside) and still needing the heating (ie you can't have a simple all in one), it being more inefficient, needing the interior units in all rooms and constrained on where they can be due to routing/connection to the outside unit they aren't actually expensive as can be seen in pic rel, but these multi ones have limits on the total pipe length so working it across the house through floors/walls as shown in my other image, probably means you need two external units for a house or get a proper system that needs proper sizing/gassing and installingit's just working it in, installing it and it not looking shit both inside and out with all of the above
>>537919506Euros resisting the AC pill is a bit autistic, I agree, but as other anons have pointed out already in the thread; people feel its unecessary to get an AC just because of a few weeks per year of extreme heat wave, a heat wave that is almost always followed by extreme rain and wind.
>>537913892There's too many kings on the chessboard
>>537909006>Isn't France like 70% nuclear?I thought nuclear wasn't allowed in the EU?
>>537909817Aren't you guys always struggling with humidity and mold, though? AC doesn't just cool the air, it dehumidifies too. A heat pump system is reversible for winter, as well. Only when it gets below freezing do you need a supplementary heat source like gas or wood.Even when the outside temperature is nice in the spring/fall I run mine at least a few minutes a day just to keep the humidity down.
>>537919868Be honest with me, how many home owners in North Dakota, Montana and Maine has an AC?And if they dont have one, why should I?
>>537913539This.America gets temperature extremes on both ends plus hurricanes, tornadoes, giant hail, droughts, ice storms, extreme flooding. Stuff you never hear about from Europe.
>>537909006banned cause its a fake news
>>537919702Seems like a perfect use case for portable ACs, though. Roll em out of the closet for a few weeks in the summer, then put them away for the rest of the year. They aren't the most efficient but they'll do the job for a couple of weeks, and with so little annual use they'll last for many years.Just don't get a single hose unit, always dual hose.
>>537920014Google says 70% to 90% of homes in those states have AC, depending on the specific state.
>>537919868My heatpump does a good job keeping my house heated all the way down to like -20 to -25C with only supplementary radiant heat from my bathroom.It's not until it drops down into like -30C that it starts to need a little help.It also keeps the house temperature steady during summer, so I love my heatpump.
>>537918686>you share your shitter and shower with like 10 others appartementsThe OG commie blocks
>>537909006>>537909286>>537909441why do you americans keep bitching about AC?
>>537919243>im different We know you’re not like the others Abdullah
>>537920482how do you distribute the heating and cooling anon?
>>537920762>AbdullahCope and seethe Pedro Gonzalez
>>537909006>So are ACs banned or something in the EU? What's going on? Is it a power thing? Isn't France like 70% nuclear?for france and paris specifically it's 2 things combined:>ozone-layer depletion hysteria>arguments that AC external compartments are "ugly" and would sully the beauty of parisboth are obsolete because modern AC units no longer use such harmful chemicals and because paris is already bangladesh-tier in terms of beauty, but politics lag behind the current reality
>>537920482Yea, they will keep working below freezing, the efficiency just starts to decline as to gets colder and colder, until the thing is running nonstop trying to keep it warm.Of course, it also depends on your desired room temp, insulation, and your specific unit. It almost never gets below 0F/-18C where I am, so the units aren't made to handle really cold temps.You can install a ground loop and it will be super efficient year round, since the ground is always cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter, but it's a lot more expensive and requires a decent sized yard.
>>537920014Consult picrel Muhammad
>>537909817Summer is 3 months long you retarded faggot. That's a long ass time to be sitting drenched in humidity and sweat. KYS
>>537921206>arguments that AC external compartments are "ugly" and would sully the beauty of pariswouldn't want to lose any tourism dollars
>>537920935>no uSilence you ugly monster.
>>537909006Well Europe gets a lot its power from LNG which may be strained by the strait of Hormuz
>>537909006Oh look, another spam ac threadGreat job mods you worthless fucking niggers
>>537909006not bannedout of stock every heat wave, esp the first big ones of the yearlow adoption because the weather makes it unnecessaryat the peak of this wave, thursday, over 104F, i had a meeting in a notary office to sign papersthe building has no ACit's in a very fancy suburb (saint germain en laye)their excuse is that it's a historic monument building (or in the range of one, more likely) and the State therefore doesnt allow outdoor AC units.but i never saw real AC in paris, ever (splits). I do see some units outside more and more, but never saw one indoors.what i saw is portables at my uncle's Paris office, and a multiple split at his summer appartment in Cannes (expensive, coastal).AC has low adoption because mostly unnecessary in france, but of course costs play a role too.i bought my first one, a cheap 1000W portable, at 55 yo... and it's working fine for my 55 sq meters flatdoesnt make it cool or room temp by far, but makes the heat waves totally bearable with simple fanningi used to take 3 to 5 showers a day during heat waves before i had thatwhat you see around the streets in this weather is portables with their silly tubing through open doors... and it's enoughor just fansthe truth is that1/ we dont live in a forsaken country like amerifats2/ we dont build homes where one cannot survive without copious amounts of power amenities3/ we build out of insulating cold and heat keeping materials: concrete, brick, stone. Unlike you northern macacos who build in woodchip and glue.This building of mine is bricks and stone. The one across the alley is concrete, but fancy too. Keeps temps in a way amerimutts cannot understand. Cool it off at night (with simple fans) and you're good at day. Mostly. Enough. We dont have many hot days anyway, barring exceptions.As for heat mortality, it's a good thing. Keeps the overall health sharp. Sweating is good for you, fatties.
>>537921206>arguments that AC external compartments are "ugly" and would sully the beauty of paristhat much is truesome buildings from specific eras and historic places are protected, you can't do what you want with it, like everything from the Haussmann erait isn't specifically about AC, just there's some strict rules protecting cultural heritagewe do have ACs in a lot of places tho
>>537921724>a multiple split at his summer appartment in Cannes (expensive, coastal).by the way... those appartments are in big multi stories buildings, therefore an anti-tradi construction. Trad houses dont need AC as those condos do.
>>537918817This image makes no sense without proper context.
>>537909006USA has air conditioners.China har air conditioners.Africa har air conditioners. India has air conditioners. Europe, ehh..
>>537909006humans use too much electricity and water that should go to ai data centers.
>>537909817lol they cantthey live in a godforsaken country
>>537909935and that's a good thingeveryone else gets a good healthy sweating
honestly are these threads a cope for american to justify pissing away their credit money on comfort they wouldn't need if they didn't build cardboard shithouses?
>>537922100>godforsakenImagine being white and not living in America. Holy fuck why even live.
>>537910417corrected version to use similar data
>>537912929Okay and? European homes are made to exist perfectly fine without AC and up until recently the days weren't hot enough to kill anyone. You're asking why people haven't mass adopted ACs when they haven't needed them their ENTIRE LIVES? Retard
>>537910532>"muh architecture, it will look UGLY on the outside I don't want an UGLY BLOCK OF METAL ON MUH ARCHITECTURALLY BOUJEE HOUSE"i dontnobody doesit is ugly af
>>537922298Don’t know bro. It looks like you’re the one coping with why you don’t need AC.
>>537909006Imagine not living in the mountains where you never need an ACIf it's "too hot" aka 29 I just go into the Dry Gulch where there's shade
>>537922298>>537922312This is absolutely insane. >>537922298>honestly are these threads a cope for american to justify pissing away their credit money on comfort they wouldn't need if they didn't build cardboard shithouses?If your houses are so much better that you don't need a/c, why are there more heat deaths in Europe than in the USA?Also, in these threads it's important to point out that Southern Europeans adopted a/c a long time ago. I lived in Madrid, Spain about 13 years ago. The apartment I lived in, as well as my university and basically anywhere I went, had air conditioning. The idea that "Europeans can't into a/c" isn't entirely true. Places like Spain and Italy use air conditioning. It's just France and Germany and the UK and the more northern countries that have never adopted it
>>537917163i'm landowner and former landowner of my whole 3 homes building and yet i'm loathe to setting up an outdoor unit unless it fits upon a window sill and doesnt stick out
>>537913238It equates dying becuase of the state not doing something about the roads.
>>537912958this is europe sir, not negroland
>>537909286fpbp /thread saged
>>537914594if you havent understood yet that women create males to serve them, from conception to death, you will learn in timeyou may act all dominant owner if you want, but only because some of them let you because it serves them
>>537909006'Climate modification sin' only applies to cooling apparently, because as far as I'm aware Europe has had indoor heating for generations.
>>537910715>i live in a shitty unlivable place>i dont understand why europoors can live without heavy duty equipmentwell that about sums it upyou guys are an experimentyour nation is a military base for jewryyour living spaces are not meant to be pleasant
>>537909006Reminder that the us has a population of about 345m people, and each year we have less then 4000 deaths due to heat.The entirety of Europe has around 735 million people, and each year on average anywhere from 170k-200k die of heat each year. Even if you half the population and deaths they STILL die more then the US my massive margins Use this as a reminder that anytime some one think that Europe is so much better then the US, remind them they cant even master fucking AC.
Reminder that British people can't legally open their windows anymore
>>537922844Euros are too dumb to switch the indoor heating to cold.
>>537922613>If your houses are so much better that you don't need a/c, why are there more heat deaths in Europe than in the USA?city dwelling retards>>537922613>>537922464i live in a two century old farmhouse and there's a 11°c difference with the outside, it's currently 23°c (73,4f for retards) inside
>>537922699this ain't hard to understand. allowing everyone to do with houses and apartment blocks as they please would turn Europe into India. people cannot be trusted to do what is best for society because they are selfish. unfortunately we have to make these laws
>>537922457You can install a portable AC, it doesn't sit in the window. Next fucktarded argument.
>>537922699>not negrolandFor real? Kek
>>537923096Just admit your goal is to kill off white europeans to let the shitskins take over.
>>537923056>i live in a two century old farmhouseMassah lets you stay in the big house? You a house nigger?
Why is everyone pretending as if climate change isn't real?
>>537923628>>537923202cope and seethe the US are 45% white, we literally have less black and less browns than you do, and yet you always bring the nigger issueare you retarded?
>>537923228show me a country where there are no rules and everyone just behaves. america has building codes too you know
my ac sometimes stops blowing cold air and i have to turn it off for a couple hours and then it starts working again when i turn it back on, but sometimes it turns off again like a week later..... what could the issue be?
>>537923741What you say is true but you gotta admit the French Soccer team is funny.
>>537914594Unironically yes, there's an EU regulation for that.I expect that at some point both parties will have to sign an official document confirming that they consent and get it verified at a notary's office, but for now they still don't have to do that.
>>537923712Because it isn't real.
>>537923753And none of the buildings codes in America say, "you must die of heat stroke because AC units make your building look ugly".
>>537919093thismy portable cooler is in my kitchen, about 30 feet away from muh roomi can sit in front of it for a strong cool, or just beyond the kitchen's door for the coolest area, but my room is FINE at its 30 to 35C indoor temp with a small fanbecause cooled 30 isnt like non-cooled 30
>>537909006Why spend money in something that you only "need" to use 3 days of the year
>>537923741>you always bring the nigger issueBeg your pardon but you were the one who claimed that your niggerdom is white.
>>537912675>Their grid is dogshitlol
>>537922658Shut the fuck up, Indonesia
>>537909006
>>537924429like right now, 31C where i'm sitting in my room, not even sweating with a small but somewhat powerful fan... at only medium speed rnthis little beast
The funniest thing is those retards shill for heat pumps to be installed in every home. I'm pretty sure if you ask the average green nutter he doesn't know that an AC and a heat pump are the same thing.
>>537912783>Human-Caused Climate Changedoesnt existbut cities are heat trapsand nowadays jew Gates-shitted skies trap heat hugemongly more
>>537923096Ok, so a nationwide HOA. You are describing the exact reasoning of an HOA existing
>>537912783>d) Historic Preservation>Historic preservation in Europe is incredibly strict. Many buildings are hundreds of years old, and altering the facade to install AC split-units is generally prohibited. This challenge extends to modern rentals, because landlords are not legally mandated to install air conditioning units in new buildings.e) when NOBODY displays a horrendous outdoor AC unit in your nicey neighborhood, you dont feel like being that ugly nasty leaky duck UNLESS you have a relatively hidden area for it
>>537924929Yep, also it's about $20 in parts to make them be able to go in reverse (is add the parts to an AC, it now can run as a heat pump. Add them to a heat pump, it is now an AC)
>>537913456>europeans really can't afford a window unit?we somewhat can, but why would we for a few days a year?we bear it, complain, sweat up and come out much healthier than amerimuttsyeah some weaklings die, it's all benefice
>>537909006It’s a fucking globohomo remoralization marketing stunt, along with the Hidden Valley Ranch bullshit. I don’t blame /int/
>>537925111>for a few days a yearcope. this is going to be every single summer from now on. also a heat pump saves you money in winter.>>537925062If you run it in heat pump mode it's fine and greenpilled but if you dare want to sleep in a bedroom that's not 90% humidity and 35°C it's a crime against humanity. This is literally how those retards here think.
>>537909006It's not banned, it's just not popular. I have lived for 30 years without an AC and I have never minded it.
>>537913614so MOGGED by SailorCHAD
>>537909817More Europeans die of heat stroke each year than Americans from gun violence.
>>537909006I live in old building. It's 32C outside and 24C inside. It's fine with a fan.
>>537925401Tabarly the OG Breton sea GigaChad
>>537909006Why do muttropeans have a burning hatred for AC? Is it because Americans have them and they’re too arrogant to do so too?
>>537921349>Alaska>7%Guess they don't need it, but we should send them more anyways just to shit on the yuropoors.
this frightens the Eurogroid
>>537923808You have it set too low and your unit is freezing itself. Turn the temp up and don’t stress it so hard.
>>537926626i never move it off 75 tho
>>537912958Kek
>>537921724>2/ we dont build homes where one cannot survive without copious amounts of power amenities>3/ we build out of insulating cold and heat keeping materials: concrete, brick, stone. Unlike you northern macacos who build in woodchip and glue.>This building of mine is bricks and stone. The one across the alley is concrete, but fancy too. Keeps temps in a way amerimutts cannot understand. Cool it off at night (with simple fans) and you're good at day. Mostly. Enough. We dont have many hot days anyway, barring exceptions.You live in a brick oven in the summer and claim that it's a good thing.
Why did Germany destroy their nuclear plants?
>>537926967the part of their politicians from DDR (literal soviets) are working against european interests
>>537917163You can get a window unit for less than $200 that doesn't require any permanent changes or installation other than >Open window>insert AC unit>Close window>Plug cord into outlet.It's not as a whole house central AC, but it be fine for one room or a smaller apartment.
>>537921481its not humid its just dry heat. You sweat a lot but thats it.
>>537928278Berlin isn't humid?
Europe is touchy about adding luxuries to its culture that would stress their power grid, which they have zero interest in enhancing. Air conditioning systems would be something their pet niggers and shitskins would have to possess too.If Europe had no niggers or shitskins, and didn't eliminate nuclear power generation, they could absolutely have central air and cooling in every household.
>>537909006Anyone know where has air con units that are actually in stock in the England?
>>537920790The heat pump is like a big fan, it circulates the heat, I have the doors to most of my rooms open.
>>537929036https://www.gov.uk/government/news/thousands-of-homes-will-be-eligible-for-9000-off-a-heat-pump
>>537909006It confuses and enrages us
>>537910769What is a minisplit? Like the thing i have with a exhausthose i throw out the window?
>>537909006Euro houses are made with actual hard walls (Brick and/or cinderblocks) instead of the cardboard used in America.Also, most yuro countries have regulations regarding thermal insulation, so even if it's 40°C outside, it'll likely be 20/25 tops inside. There's a few exceptions, like roof flats that were never meant to be used as living space that got turned into a flat, but you don't need an AC as an european in the extreme majority of cases.>t. posting from my 19°C living room while it's been 40+ °C outside all week.
>>537919868I have a single hose, whats bad about it
>>537909006Funny thing is that AC is most common in the coldest countries in EU, Finland, Norway, and Sweden. Since it can also be used for heating.
>>537931232The media is anti A/C because it fucks with their electric car agenda and 15 minute prisons
>>537910515whites are not master racethey can only live in cold climate like northern europeanything living beyond lower than berlin latitude/longtitude is a brownoid shitskin as picrel spaniard
>>537910380Didnt you hear? Dooms day has been postponed.
>>537913892>>537913990>>537914057>>537919704>Euro monarchs are Jews?Yes.They are owned by Jews.
>>537910093AC is racist, they need maintenance or it could cause unhealthy air and make people sick. It is like ventilation is racist in the UK.Also AC is not that uncommon here, especially people with houses. It doesn't even get hot here
>>537913957That is true though, especially in cities.
>>537913579depending on where you are, we get cold winters but hot summers. i'm in northern ontario, about the same latitude as the northern point of lake superior, and it's 85 right now. we are set to go to 90-95 later this week, which is what we got for a lot of last summertoronto gets mild winters, but the summers are very hot and muggy because of proximity to the lake, and the pollution is nuts because of the traffic on the 401, the busiest highway in north america. when i lived there we got brownouts all the time from peak ac demand. the nights are also really hot and muggy too, not like here where it goes down to anywhere from 45-55f at night. we're only one month or so away from the last snow too, and we always get a cold snap/snow mid august
>>537909006but for some reason, we have no problem with cooling AI data centers.Any idea how much energy 17 million gallons of hot water heat being rejected into the atmosphere heats the planet? I bet it's more than your A/C unit, and I bet your local, state, and national government doesn't care because AI generates so much fucking money, $100/BTU shows up in their accounts so often they don't even have to pretend to be a piece of shit to earn money anymore.
>it's uglyShut up, woman
>>537909006Is this a meme? I’ve had AC my whole life throughout different apartments and i can’t recall going to someone’s place and there not being AC kek
>>537918571Mini splits are the answer. Just have to drill a hole through the brick to run the lines. They look like absolute dogshit outside though unless you spend the time to pretty the lines up.
>>537912783>historical preservation Climate control preserves. The Louvre determined it was worth it to install HVAC
>>537910417That's not really a fair comparison, obviously niggers aren't people so it doesn't make sense to compare the couple dozen humans that die to guns in the USA to the hundreds that die to heat in Europe.
>>537930121We have millions of brick houses everywhere. They all have A/C. Cinderblock is an extremely cheap building material for a roach motelNo cardboard houses
>>537915826>Funnily enough they never talk about reducing the earth population because it's racist.lets' ask ai>Several European organizations and individuals advocate for population reduction to protect the environment. Population Matters is a UK-based charity that campaigns for stable populations through family planning and immigration policies, while its Swedish network, Nätverket Population Matters Sweden, highlights the consequences of continued growth. The European Alliance for a Sustainable Population (eurASP) unites various member organizations across Europe to inform citizens about achieving a sustainable population balance with nature. >In Belgium, Duurzame Demografie campaigns to place overpopulation on the political agenda, aiming for a humane future by balancing human population size with the environment. Broader advocacy is also found among prominent figures; for instance, Ted Turner and Ernest Callenbach have historically called for significant global population reductions to lower ecological impacts. >Academic research supports these advocacy efforts. A study on European regions found that net population growth undermines ambitious climate goals, particularly in Western Europe where growth significantly increases CO2 emissions and urban land use. This evidence is often cited by groups arguing that current EU policies favoring population growth contradict the bloc’s European Green Deal targets for climate neutrality.
The fucking state of Russians looking for pain points.
>>537930121Yet Japanese houses are literally made out of paper yet they still have 90% of houses with AC. There's no excuse. Tell your climate activists to stop acting cool infront of their nigger "friends".
>>537930121>Euro houses are made with actual hard walls (Brick and/or cinderblocks)Like 90% of houses in Florida? Wow. >most yuro countries have regulations regarding thermal insulationThis is mandated by code in every jurisdiction in America.>so even if it's 40°C outside, it'll likely be 20/25 tops insideIf your exterior walls are actually cinderblocks you're going to have extremely high thermal mass, meaning the walls will absorb the 95° heat during the day and act like a radiator over night after the ambient temperature has cooled down. And even with insulation, in the absence of mechanical cooling there's nothing to keep the building from heating up. Keeping a living room at 19°C (66.2°F) during a prolonged 40°C+ (104°F+) heatwave without mechanical cooling is not realistic. Maintaining a 21°C temperature differential across an entire week violates fundamental laws of thermodynamics.
>>537912783American home air conditioning purchases started in the 1950s. It surpassed 50% of homes in the 1970s12% of current US housing was built before the 1950s and 35% was built before the 1970s. So somewhere between 12 million and 47 million current US homes were designed and built using old methods of temperature regulation with no intention of air conditioning, and over 90% of them have now been retrofitted with A/C.
>>537910596IN KEEPING WITH THE VILLAGE'S RUSTIC AESTHETIC
>>537934135Use THIS in ANY thread about the euros crying.
>>537923808when was the last time you replenished the coolents in it? Likely a bit of maintenance would do it wonders.
>>537909006Energy prices are high here, it costs money people would rather spend on other things, it's hot like 5 or 10 days out of the year.If I was 70 or 80 I'd get it installed, otherwise idgaf.
>>537923808Refrigerant leak or dirty coil.
>>537909006kid france had to turn of some of its nuclear plants this week because of the heatwave the cooling cant handle the weather...........
>>537909006moscow is being bombed
>>537909006pedofaggot
>>537922868You live in a shitty unlivable place too, unless you're an African.
>>537909006When you look up the statistics of homosexuality in European countries, and the concentration thereof, you'll understand.Swampass acts as a sort of lubrication where intestinal mucous mixed with shit seeps from the anus from the intense heat. Creating a hot slippery fecal-smelling lubrication making anal penetration effortless.
>>537916401I have a wood furnace for heat in the winter, and a window unit that I put in at the first of May and take out at the end of September. My heat costs me virtually nothing as it is just wood that I get for free. The AC cost is offset by a solar panel array on the roof. I can't tell you by how much, as it's just a 1kw solar panel with a Chinese grid-tie-in inverter with no readouts or anything. My plans are to increase the panels to 3kw and run the AC entirely off the grid once I get enough money for the extra panels.
