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>aaron ruparfug off shill fag
Trump is a known Caesaropapist, the Potomac will be his Rubicon, the Evangelicals his Orthodox, he is the NEW Basileus
>>537911493That’s correct. Fun fact huh
>>537911493I guarantee you if a moslim said it's time for shariah all these "judeo-Christian country" idiots would become the world's biggest secularists
>>537911493hes right, one nation under israel
>>537911493It’s not tho.
>>537911493If so, it looks like it time to change that.
>>537911691thisrabbis should be the leaders of our states
>>537911493Is that dr Phil?
>>537911727>If soIt’s a rather short document. You can educate yourself in 20 minutes, please
>>537911493It literally isn’t though. It’s a common law tradition. The first amendment is not “separation of church and state”
>>537911493>JEWMAXdo goyim really?
>>memeflag>>jew textWhen I say every single time, I mean EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
the phrase is literally not in the constitution lol
>>537911493Are you going to start listening to us about the Christian Question now? It's part of the JQ.
It's a shorter way of saying it because American education is too shitty for most people to understand the establishment clause
>>537911819Common law normally refers to old English common law. This was never common law. The goal was not to have a federal religion. Numerous states immediately adopted official state religions after the founding. This notion of zero God in government in the us is a 60s hippy movement bs.
>>537911615Your statement is full of anachronism. Firstly the Eastern Roman Empire was a theocracy. Secondly caesaropapism meant that the emperor got involved in church affairs like theological debates etc. Trump never ever in his life ever read the bible or knows anything about christianity besides what his kike masters tell him (he couldn't quote one bible verse). He doesn't get involved in church affairs.
>>537911493Yes, it does. You illiterate faggots need to be culled. Fuck you and your Jewish cult. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"Jefferson said of the First Amendment "a wall of separation between Church & State."
>>537911493>>537911566>>537911659>>537911708>>537911819>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-1/
>>537912102Only real american in the thread. I doubt any of these fucking kike wastoids could name any other bill of rights, let alone any amendment of substance. What is so civil aboit war anyways?
>>537912170In God we trust only became a federal thing in the 1950's, also "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance in the 20th Century
>>537912197>jefferson saiddidn't write the constitution
>>537911493Hey fellow White Christians, wanna die for Israel? God wills it!
>>537911818I already knew
>>537912261>Hey fellow White Christians, wanna die for Israel? God wills it!
>>537911975So fucking right.TKD can't happen soon enough.
>>537912192It was a monarchy, it wasn't led by the considerably weak ecumenical patriarch, who the EMPEROR appointed as part of his duty
>>537912197context of his letter:https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html>Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
>>537912240He wrote the declaration of independence, and was very much involved in the constitutions construction. You are a nigger.
>>537912102You probably also think the commerce clause gives federal government unbelievable power and are frightened and confused when confronted with the 10th amendment. Constitutional interpretation has been absolutely jewed from its intent into a mockery of itself.
>>537912230too many commas and big words for miggers. notice how none of them respond to your post.
>>537912192And besides, it's okay for Trump, Constantine wasn't some religious dynamo either, look at his religious policy being basically to keep the peace, he didn't like the bickering any more than he had to tolerate it
>>537911493Abrahamfaggotry aka kikery
>>537911659>>537911708>>537911819It is a fundamental tenant of enlightenment philosophies that the founders absolutely 100% believed. This is implicit in "freedom of religion".
>>537912355Agreed, anon.
>>537912515Please cite the part you quoted
>leftists SUDDENLY care about the spirit of the Constitution and the will of the Founding Fathersfunny how you never bring this up when the 2nd Amendment is being ruthlessly undermined..........Both in the Constitution and in the Founding Fathers' wishes, the American people are allowed to freely own the weaponry that the US military wields.Every single gun restriction in the state or federal laws is illegal and unconstitutional, which is why the SC refuses to hear any general state law gun control cases... it will overnight make assault rifles legal nationwide.
>>537912398Hanilton's faction behind the commerce wanted the federal government to be a monarchy which appointed the governors of each state, it would be crazy to think they wanted it to have more powerThe 10th was introduced specifically to placate the anti Federalists. So you are looking at parts of the constitution which have opposite intents and theoretically balance each other by that
>>53791149310 years ago, /pol/ would be cheering the shit out of such statement. By now, most realized that the breakdown of such separation would turn every congressional session into one of those disgusting protestant "worship" services
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>>537912614>retard arguing with a dichotomous straw man in his 60 IQ niggerbrainYEAH DA LEFTISTS.... THEY UHHHMBBB *dribbles*... THEY DOING THE THING.... UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..... HOW CUM LEFTISTS???? HOW IS DA LEFTISTD DOING D--D-D-D-......DOING....U HHHHHHHHHHHH
btw>*ahem*The SC has already used the "render unto Caesar" line to justify taxes in a ruling, meaning that the SC is operating under the understanding that our country has a separation of church and state.open and shut
>>537912688The commerce clause is literally three words within commas “regulate interstate commerce” in a basic prologue of fed’s general duties. It is not an enumeration of power. It is a phrase vague enough for opportunists to pounce to give the fed literally unlimited power since everything involves money. It is how abortion and healthcare become federal issues even though they are not in the constitution. It is a violation of the 10th amendment. They just ignore it. It was a weakness and oversight by the framers for exploiters and tyrants and jewish lawyers to pounce on.
>>537911493It's right there though.This is as retarded as the "where in the constitution does it say protests have to be peaceful?"
>>537912799I'm agree with their point, I just think it is fucking hilarious that the Constitution flipflops between a sacred text and a constantly changing document depending on what amendments are beign defended or attacked.
>>537912692That’s not the constitution. Show me freedom of religion in the constitution
>>537912614How is it being undermined more than the 1st? The scotus is fine with people being prosecuted for fiction.
>>537911493>Dan PatrickHe's a "Christian" zionist btw.
>>537912921It is anto-American to promote a state imposed religion. If the founders wanted such a thing they would have established it. There cannot be freedom of religion if the state is imposing a religion
>>537912892How is it that aquafresh flag mogs 90% of the mutts in this fucking thread? Jfc Hitler was right about america.
>>537912994>still won’t quote the constitution
>>537912921>Show me freedom of religion in the constitutionCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
>>537912910> I just think it is fucking hilarious that the Constitution flipflops between a sacred text and a constantly changing document depending on what amendments are beign defended or attacked.it's been nearly 35 years since the last constitutional amendment. blame our legislative branch and a fat stinking brown nigger retard underclass that votes for these ineffectual dipshits.
>>537913060Why are churches exempt from taxation in America? Because state cannot impose a religion. This is long precedent interpretation of freedom of religion
>>537912360Damn you are right all of them were appointed by the emperor I didn't even know thatI wonder how orthodox justified their high priest basically being appointed by a secular powers when they kept bitching all day like Χρυσόστομος did about the emperor and Eudoxia.
>>537912921How about >>537912230 you fucking moron
>>537912890>It is a phrase vague enough for opportunists to pounce to give the fed literally unlimited powerIntentionally. Gouverneur Morris (the penman of the constitution) mocked states rights advocates in his letters and said they only care about strangling commerce, whipping negroes and bawling about the inalienable rights of man. Both he and Hamilton favored an American monarchy whom the governors answered to>It is how abortionAbortion became an issue through the 14th and others, based on theory of "right to privacy", which the supreme court no longer recognizes. Not the commerce clause
>>537913070Be careful, aquafresh. They'll call you jew or nigga or whatever their small jew cumstained brains are told to call you, and completely disregard your argument, no matter how right you are. The best thing is just to ignore these idiots. No matter how much logic you hit them with, if it isnt the pre approved jew sand nigger trump cum swallowed message, they wont even understand it as comprehensible.
>>537913070>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;Thank you. The first amendment. As we can see, no separation of church and state. Your school and your president can have prayer and Bible study if they choose, it is unconstitutional for the state to say they can’t
>>537913047>How is itIntelligence is the third easiest thing for my flag to mog mutts in, after height & penis length.
>>537912230Correct, congress cannot institute the Lutheran Church of America. That's literally it. And it only applies to the federal government because states had their own state church.
>>537913294>make no law respecting an establishment of religionThat's literally separation of church & state, retard.
>>537913294Literally proved me right>>537913290
>>537913294congress provides ~20% of the funding (via the federal budget) required by texas public schools.
>>537912360>>537913190It also highlights that the schism was nothing more than political and cultural difference between greeks and latins and the pope was justified by breaking away from eastern roman emperors control. Χρυσόστομος kept bitching about caesaropapism but when the pope broke up he was somehow evil for it. Comic
I don't care if he's right I don't want MIGA evangelical death cults running anything
>>537911493That is correct.
>>537913294The First Amendment applies to public schools and government property by prohibiting government entities from endorsing religion while protecting an individual's right to personal expression. Because public schools and government offices are state-funded, their employees and properties are legally bound by these constitutional limitsYou can do whatever you want if you run a school funded by your own money, not with the government funding it.
It's time
>>537912230>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religionThey did, its called Judaism.
>>537911493lol enjoy your god king president you backwards iron age retards lol
>>537911493>>537911819>>537911708>The words "Separation of church and state" never explicitly appear in that exact order>Therefore we can intergrate Christianity into the stateMigger logic.
>>537913372Okay calm down, ESL. You're gonna get high off your own supply and have a bad time.
>>537913498Memefag is wrong again.
>>537913409No state religion \=\ separation of church and state.Religion is not banned from the state. The state simply can't establish a religin
>>537913448Well let's remember that before Byzantium lost control, they deposed and appointed Popes too, the Exarch of Ravenna would arrest certain people and send them to exile. It was because of this control that there once was a non-catholic pope named Honorius, the byzantine emperor had him apostasize and become a monothelite, cause THAT was in fashion back then
>>537912230>or prohibiting the free exercise thereofThey did, its called "Tolerance".>or abridging the freedom of speech,The did, its called "Hate speech".>or of the press;The did, its called "Misinformation".>or the right of the people peaceably to assembleThe did, its called an "Insurrection".>and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.They did, its called "Social Justice".
>>537913375If Mormons can't literally buy Utah then no state church is ever gonna get the federal government or scotus to agree about some gay state religion being imposed on citizens.
>>537913563>ESLMy english is likely to be better than yours though.I have the IB-degree to back that up.
>>537913644Every single thing you listed the Trump admin has done over the last and a half year except 1000x worse and more egregious.
>>537913581>The state simply can't establish a religinThat's not what it says.It says the state cannot respect an establishment of religion.I.e. the state cannot define 'an establishment of religion' (such as the holy see) as equal or superior to itself, or worthy of treating as a political entity.That is what separation of state & church IS.Fucking burgers don't even understand their own constitution.
>>537912515>It is a fundamental tenant of enlightenment philosophiesdoes it pay rent or lives rent-free?
Nobody cares about leftist factoids any more. You fags argue like women. Using logic when it gets you what you want but you can NEVER be convinced of anything by way of logic. Just like women
>>537911493We need a separation of synagogue and state
>>537912230OK. Dont establish a religion then. We already have catholicism. And we wont prevent the free practice of that. That whole paragraph could read that way easily. Im sorry your skin is too dark for basic logic skills.
>>537913822>It says the state cannot respect an establishment of religionThat’s not what it says either. It says Congress cannot make a law respecting an establishment of religion. These distinctions are important. Modernists don’t understand. These are restrictions on government respecting the God given rights of the people. The 1st amendment does not give us the freedom of religion or speech, God does. The 1st only says the government can’t take them away. The people and the states have a free right to religion and federal Congress shall not impose on that by establishing state religion
>>537912197Jefferson owned slaves bigot. His opinion doesnt matter I dont care what you want. Never will. This idea that youre going to keep liberalism is hilarious though. Its dead, get over it and move on. Sorry the Disney movies of your youth didnt come true, but you should have frankly accepted this years ago.
>>537914154We dont have to establish a new religion. We have catholicism. Everyone is free to practice that.
>>537913599Yeah I know it's crazy that somehow catholic popes were always right about "heresies" and ecumenical councils while Constantinopol had heretical patriarchs that were literally appointed by the emperor. Justinian literally forced the pope to sign his document to make a sort of truce between monophysitists and chalcedonian which pissed off everyone and in the end achived nothing
>>537911493It very obviously is. The first amendment is subject to strict scrutiny. This means that the clause pertaining to religious freedoms are examined in far more detail and with respect to far more derivative outcomes. This is important because it means we must think deeply and exhaustively with respect to what it means to be free to practice any religion. If we decide it's allowed to consider faith in government, we must reckon with what that actually means in practice. If we make a certain benefit available only to Christians, we are establishing a special privilege for one faith. The existence of privilege is logically equal to the deprivation of privilege for others. That means that the logical response is to change your faith if you want those privileges. This very strongly suggests a breach of strict 1A protections -- there is no easier test than that of outcomes, and outcomes which demonstrably favor one faith over others are clean cut. SCOTUS very well may attempt to carve out an exception. Just remember that this also means a future, secular government has the freedom to discriminate against you because of it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>537914179Jefferson also agreed to the amendment clause... meaning he had foresight to know that as time goes by things like culture and economic norms change.
>>537911615he is a FAGGOT
>>537914241No one is going to establish a state religion. Having Catholic leaders in government and government that reflects Catholic values is constitutionally allowed
>>537911493Not often one gets the chance to say anti-disestablishmentarianism. Throw (no pun intended) in a defenestration or two and my day is made.
>>537914319Jefferson didnt even free his own slaves before he died. He was an unserious person. Get over it.
>>537914399>No one is going to establish a state religionI agree. Its already been established. So no establishment necessarily Its the only true religion, so everything else isnt religion, its heresy. So, we will still protect the free practice of religion.
>bulldoze the vatican and inner city of london>lol
>>537914511>Its already been establishedCan you quote a clause of the constitution which establishes this state religion? Because I can cite one which directly prohibits establishing a state religion:>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religionIf you don't believe in the Constitution and think we should have something different, you can absolutely think that. You have the right to think that and say it, ironically under the exact amendment you're actively subverting kek.
>>537914431Doesn't matter how he treated or of he owned slaves he agree with the amendment clause and spoke out agaisnt chattel slavery quite a bit. Most of his slaves loved him anyway.
>>537914095You are a retard if that is your reading of>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
>>537913294>11 posts by this IDSo this is your sandbox to shit up?
>>537914264That's why in Lebanon they call the greek orthodox community the King's Men(Melkite), because to be Orthodox is to be Imperial. This religion is an imperial administrative entity, which by its essence elevates Greeks in the same way the Soviet Union inadvertently elevated Russians above their other ethnicities. If the Orthodox won, they would probably be just as politically biased as the catholics
>>537915059Yeah I know that's why the russians and the greeks are in a schism now. The greeks/constantinopol tried to show and assert their dominance over the russians with ukraine and ofcourse the russians got pissed off
>>537913571You're calling the constitution 'wrong', not me.
>>537911493Yes it ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TAtLwqlTac
>>537915241Also the russian bible is different to the greek one. The russians have deuterocanonical books as non canonical while the greeks have them as canonical
>>537911493Based anyone pushing separation of church and state is a fucking commie. They want to push support against Israel like rabid antisemites and want full scale abortion for down syndrome kids or black babies. Its disgusting but that is what these freaks want. You cant have a separation of church and state.
>>537913294"Establishment" is the critical word in this clause. Today, establishment generally refers to "an establishment" -- as if the word is synonymous with institution, organization, group, etc. The English of the Framers was famously different from our own. "Establishment," in their era, was read as a kind of transitive form of the verb "establishing." It was not an institution but rather the state of establishing something: in this case a law which pertains to establishing a religion. It is not religion-as-establishment/institution but establishment OF a religion... or, more specifically (as gleaned from contemporary sources) establishing one as a state religion. My point is that you can't just read the constitution as if it were written today.
>>537913712never mind cleetus the mouthbreather having no other argument, just change your flag to a memeflag and if your english is that good, nobody will mention ESL.
>>537915477>>537915241Despite the political machinations I still feel as if there's room for legitimate striving and thriving to be had under this banner, even if you Latins were uncharacteristically forced into it. What's Romanian orthodox identity like, how do you people view catholic Italians?
>>537916353Well you have to go back to the Council of Florence (1431-1445). Orthodox priests all around the world were forced by the byzantine emperor (he was catholic, the last byzantine emperors were catholic) and the pope to sign an accord of union between catholics and orthodox. They were literally forced to sign or face retribution and they did (some didn't and didn't take part in it). So the orthodox churches were now catholic, the priests were sent back to their countries and they were forced to preach catholic teachings and well the people really got pissed off all around the orthodox world. The russian one was the first one to say the council is not legitimate then other countries followed. So romanian people didn't really want to be catholic and wanted to remain orthodox. So let's say Romania literally didn't change much from that time period (in many ways). I think you got the idea. Now the relation between orthodox christians and their views towards catholic italians is of sympathy but nothing more. They kinda like the pope but don't want to be catholic. People go to church because of tradition anyway so why change all that. It's more friendly and a lot less hostile compared to greek orthodox and catholic italians
>>537914678Catholicism is already established? They wouldnt be establishing anything dummyCatholicism is also EXPLICITLY not a state religion but an international body. So, no complaints right?
>>537914705Lol. It matters and its ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
>>537914800Ya. That religion was ALREADY established dumb nigger
What's he thinking right now?
>>537918218The founding fathers are probably kicking themselves for designing such a stupid system of government that allowed these religious nuts and conmen to get into government.
>>537911493Truth nuke.Public schools shouldn't even exist.
>>537911682Don't say judeo-christian. Christ is God and existed before Judaism He even said so Himself.Islam is closer to Christianity than judasim. Hitler thought Islam was based.
Explain multiple US states having state churches during the founders time separation worshippers.
>>537918377Schools should exist to teach not to preach
>>537912326Accurate.
>>537918597What about the part where he calls all jews evil and the enemy of mankind?
If you're reading a Bible as part of a school curriculum then expect calls to read other religious texts as well. All while money-hungry people look to sue the instant "just reading" becomes anything hinting to preaching.And all this while many students sit down and go "Wow this book fucking sucks."The entire idea was stupid and it is going to end up challenged in court.
>>537918511That ended when liberals realized adding more browns into the country didnt work out the way they thought it would.
>>537918462Kikes literally wrote the bible. Kill yourself.
>>537918109It's semantics. Take your Jewish pilpul somewhere else.
>>537918690No other religious texts have anything to do with the nation.
>>537918753Youre the one defending nigger rights kike
>>537918680jewish infighting? Wow. What a revelation you had there buddy. I'm sure nobody has ever considered such a profound statement.
>>537918690>And all this while many students sit down and go "Wow this book fucking sucks."Ah shit I forgot the fastest way to become an atheist is to read the Bible. It could very well have the opposite of the desired effect.
>>537911615>>537914388>>537912192>>537912360>>537911493Trump is an Alt-Right Germanic Pagan Barbarian who is here to destroy Rome & Greece & the West. That's why Christians & Jews call him Cyrus, Iranians were also enemies of Greece & Rome.
>>537912498Nice try, ranjeet.Indians are an antichrist race. You are descendants of Cain (along with Jews). We need to send you smelloids back to India ASAP.
>>537912230ok so wheres the separation of church and state? all that says is congress will pass no laws in support of religion or prohibit people from exercising their religion. this says nothing about having religious symbols in government buildings
>>537914179Being a slave is the choice they took. So there's nothing wrong with it.
>>537912230>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religionweird how democrats want to make laws establishing their religion of gay race communism
>>537918866The guy that wrote the First Amendment said so.
>As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen...Mutts are the victims of their McDonald's drive-through education system.
>>537918816... he says all jews? And no i don't think you've actually considered anything in your entire miserable life
>>537918862Your own raped kike slaves in christ (majority niggers) are going to slaughter you for being a heretic. I will laugh as well.
>>537911493They really want to make Noahidism the state religion don't they.>>537911615>>537918850 You two spergs need to stop trying to line up historical events with modern events on a one for one basis. You look incredibly stupid doing so.
>>537918804Did Jefferson support the amendment clause, yes or no?
>>537918995Seethe shit skin faggot. You will NEVER be human.
>>537911493It's notWe just couldn't have a single State Religion, like The Church of England
>>537918927He said establish a state religion. Catholicism is both already established and not a state religion.
>>537912614I think the constitution is rickety old shit and is the primary reason why we have a dysfunctional government and it's complete mentally illness how the American civic religion treats it like holy scripture instead of a political document that can and should be changed.Still don't want a bunch of loser protestant faggots creating a theocratic state for their shitty strip mall church religion
>>537912447Notice how leftoids keep trying to put restrictions on the 1st and 2nd yet kept failing. There are more gun carrying Americans today than before king nigger's reign.
>>537911493This is only true in the most semantic of senses.No, those words are not explicitly in the constitution but these are "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."Separation of church and state is how we referred to the issue at large.The fact that these words don’t explicitly appear in the constitution has nothing to do with the framers intent.This is a stupid argumentIt is rooted in semantics and disregard the obvious intention of the constitution.This is an argument for people who don’t care about the truth, the rule of law or America.The King James Bible was authorized for use in church and court.That’s how theocracy works.Do you want to go to prison for having sinned? That’s where this ultimately leads
>>537919039Yes. I already acknowledged his part? This is why I was calling him an unserious jackass?Do you even understand the conversation we're having at this moment rajesh?
>>537919060Youre a degenerate nigger.
>>537918850based>>537919014seethe historylet
>>537919181Dance monkey dance.
>>537913814>canadiansorry>indian
>>537911493He’s right. Jefferson said it but it’s not anywhere in the D of I either.
>>537918775For the purposes of a class, it's just a text. Students could also read the Old Testament and Quran for more context to era/area the Bible was written. Especially historically when factions were warring with each other over disagreements in interpretations/beliefs. But if this is only about American history then they can read the the text and then see all the court cases and other movements that directly refuted why what's written in the Bible (or what's taught by the church) cannot be enacted as law or code for anything taxpayer funded. So it all wraps around to being useless.
>>537919113The modern era killed protestanism. Its a dying movement. >what if we just make it up as we go along?!?!Did not infact work out.
>>537918739The Holy Spirit did, ranjeetstein. Moses who wrote Genesis the most important book would be disgusted at modern Israel.
>>537913294It’s also unconstitutional for them to choose for others.
>>537911493Why is Dr Phil there?
>>537919321Get on your knees and let rabbi yeshua ben yosef enter you, bride. Every raped kike slave knee shall bow. Servile kike cuck.
>>537919257For the purpose of an american class in general its the only religious text with any relation to the country. ... well. The book of Mormon, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the ideological framework the country was developed under, which basically cant be explained or understood without knowledge of the bible Stop wasting your time trying to think you degenerate heathen nigger. Its embarrassing >But if this is only about American history then they can read the the text and then see all the court cases and other movements that directly refuted why what's written in the BibleHow tall are you?
>>537912197>>537912892>CongressWhat does this have to do with the Texas Board of Education you dumb fucking cunts? Are you asking for Congress to step in and prohibit the Texas Board of Education from exercising their religious rights because of a snippet that says Congress cannot prohibit the exercise of religion?
>>537919135 What the fools who want to make Christianity the state religion do not realize is that they're opening the door to denominational infighting. The European wars of religion were still fresh in the founder's minds and none of them wanted a repeat of Catholics and Protestants killing each other over who's religion had legal supremacy nor of Protestants fighting over which version of Protestantism was acceptable. Who's Christianity gets to be state religion? The Catholics, the Baptists, the Presbyterians, the Lutherans? Will the ruling sect be Evangelical? Are the Mormons even Christian? These questions would absolutely tear the country into tiny pieces.
>>537918511Shut up jew. Bible does teach. Public schools teach gay and fake lies like we live on a billion year old globe.
>>537919113Our country is dysfunctional because we’ve allowed too many fucking turds to have a say and too many muds to live amongst us. Both of which the founders were completely against.
>>537919230>Trump will cross the Rubican any day guise.Guy showed he had no balls on January 6th, he's gonna take his bribes and what Jew money he can and fuck off into retirement. You're seeing patterns where none exist.
>>537919449elephant trunks dicks are gross the Devil is responsible for forskin growth.
>>537912447Miggers don't like the republic. They hate the USA. They want their faggot migger empire under King Bibi so they can eat curly-haired kosher asshole for eternity in their southern fried boomer rapture.
>>537919143It's an irrelevant fact. And he clearly had the foresight to know that slavery wasn't going to be around forever. His entire life abolishonists had been gaining traction since before the union was even formed. He even proposed a bill to end chattel slavery and it was shut down. He hand picked who he sold his slaves too, his fondest memory was of him riding on a horse with a slave as a kid. We didn't live back in those days, you're making some wild ass assumption about his motives. But given his clear action to allow for the constitution to be amended as the time passes clearly shows he knew one day things would change.
>>537919638>semitic shit skinYou will never be human.
>>537911493Buy an ad, Shylock.
drumpf converted to judaism years ago
>>537919749Jefferson maybe be more known for his critique of slavery than any other person. He wanted to make that a prominent part of the declaration of independenceAnd 50 years later he still didnt free HIS OWN SLAVES. FIFTY YEARS HE HELD ONTO SLAVES DESPITE DECRYING IT AS EVILIt doesnt matter what he predicted. He was an unserious COCKSUCKER. Who had zero intention on even doing the thing HE IS MOST ASSOCIATED WITH. Get over it nigger
>>537919770Everything is jewish and shitskin to you because you're a retarded self hating jew
>>537911493>checks ConstitutionNo it's not. >>537912230>This is separationNo it is establishment. >>537912392>Jefferson was the only one involved>everything Jefferson wrote and did is how America should beYou like fucking niggers like him? >>537919527>The European wars of religionYou mean the wars that countries switched sides when it suited their nations and principalities? >are the people that say Jesus and Satan are brothers Christian?
>>537912515>tenantretard
>>537911817>>537919418Glad I was not the only one wondering that.
>>537919635Yeah on a serious note he's probably not gonna do anything interesting, every time the opportunity rises he doesn't do shit. I wish he was half the head honcho they're making him out to be
>>537920073I'm a literate human, animal.
>>537919012Mixing of the nations is a jewish globalist multicultural satanic trick
>>537920023He had over 600 slaves. And only a handful actually sought to work towards freedom which he granted. What were these slaves gonna do once freed? Slavery wasn't abolished yet, they'd just end up dead or back on under another slave owner. Do you actually think of any other angle beyond hin owning slaves?
>>537920282>christianity is talmudicI mean of all the things to suggest lol. The new testament was literally write to oppose what would become the talmud. Thats like... baked into even the most basic understanding.Why do dumb niggers like you, love to say dumb nigger shit?
>>537920369Every single denomination of christianity considers you a heretic. If a fellow nigger in christ was on top of you attempting to end your heresy, I'd hand it a fucking hammer.
>>537913126Which is pretty insane when you think about it. I'm surprised more businesses aren't just calling themselves a church to dodge taxes lol
>>537920427Silence, nigger.
>>537912091Christianity is a Karen, cuckold religion
>>537918850>>537919014>>537919230>>537919635>>537911493Christianity is incompatible with Noahide Laws. Islam is the Noahide Religion. Epstein/Mossad used teen prostitutes that lied about age to blackmail targets. The 21 Adulthood age theory is derived from Greek Climacteric Year Astrology. In the Middle Ages, Medical Diagnoses were made using the 7th climacteric year concept. Knighthood was structured along the lines of the climacteric year concept. One would become a Squire at 14 & a Knight at 21. The Normans hiked the Age of Majority in Britain from puberty to 21 using the Pagan Greek Climacteric Year Astrological concept. 7+7+7=21. Previously the age of majority in Britain varied. Under Celtic Gavelkind Law the Age of Majority was 15, while under Anglo-Saxon Law, the age of majority varied from 12-15. The epstein/mossad revelations will force governments to lower the age of majority due to blackmail risks posed by the 18 adulthood age theory. The Age of Majority was lowered from 21 to 18 due to Vietnam under Nixon, the age of majority will be lowered again due to Israel. 1800s/1900s Opponents to the Age of Consent hike warned that hiking the age would lead to blackmail issues. Israel will get cut off from the West due to the Epstein Revelations & the cultural shock brought about by the end of 18 adulthood age theory, at that point Israel is forced to enter into an alliance with a faction of Muslims. They will choose Shias/Iran due to the other factions being Sunni Turks (Ottoman Genocide) & Sunni Arabs (ISIS & Al-Qaeda). The Shia-Jewish Alliance that wahhabis have warned about for decades will come to pass. The amount of territory the Houthis have in Iran exactly corresponds to ancient Sassanid Yemen. Torah Law/Sharia Law will be made the law of the land under the Shia-Jewish Alliance as is the will of YHWH. Cyrus, the King of Iran, is the Jewish Messiah as he has always been.
Dan Patrick is a dumb cunt.That's not his real name.He's not from Texas.He got famous from talk radio.
>>537918218Fun fact: the force of Jefferson spinning in his grave caused the Earth to begin to rotate. Prior to that, the planet was stationary.
>>537920548Not again with your child bride shit
>>537920076>are the people that say Jesus and Satan are brothers Christian? And the Pope is the devil incarnate, the other Protestants really worship Molech and Satan, Satan, Satan, Satan. And this is why there would be a bloodbath if you were ever allowed to make your headcanon a state establishment.
>>537911493Satanic Temple about to turn the US into a Satanic theocracy
>>537920548>Christianity is incompatible with Noahide LawsAnd? The powers that be still want to push it.>The rest of your postHoly Tinfoil on a noggin batman!
>>537912515The founders absolutely 100% believed in private, citizen owned, battleship fleets and artillery batteries. But its not in the constitution so instead you get to debate over semi-auto rifles.
>>537920619>eggless wall
>Runs for president>Republicans required to run against the Pope on a Christian platform
>>537920282>Still jewifying everythingChristianity is the only religion. Everything else came afterward. Christ is God of the OT. Worshipping humans is for pajeets, not Whites. We only follow God Almighty. Gaygans and gaytheists will never be as Holy as us.
>>537920389>Do you actually think of any other angle beyond hin owning slaves?More than you have. What era of his life do you want to talk about? Pro-tip: dont challenge people to your right on national history. You do not know as much. You were never even that interested about learning about it, other than to try and make political arguments.He was an unserious Jackass. Doesn't make him unintelligent. But if you dont think an idealist basically refusing to follow through on the ideal that HE HELPED POPULARIZE, doesnt shine a massive negative light on said person, youre being an unserious cocksucker as well. >slavery wasnt abolished then, what could he do?This is such a dumb nigger statement I don't even know where to start. First of all, WASHINGTON FREED ALL OF HIS GODDAMN SLAVES 20 YEARS PRIOR TO JEFFERSONS DEATH JEFFERSON DIDNT FREE THEM BECAUSE HE WAS BROKE. THATS WHAT YOUR DEFENDING RIGHT NOW YOU PITCH BLACK GORILLA NIGGER
>>537920235I do too. Hell I wish he wasn't such a Jew lover either, but it is what it is.
>>537920789you want to fuck kids
>>537920389You realize Crispus Attucks, the man killed during the Boston massacre that caused a massive protest, WAS A NIGGER. SO BY 1760 THERE WERE FREE NIGGERS LIVING IN BOSTON YOU RIDICULOUS FUCKING MORON.
>>537912230That is saying that Congress will not allow for a state sponsored religion nor stop people from practicing their faith.It doesn't stop religious shit from getting mixed into the government pot. I fucking wish it did because Israel is a straight up religious state and if the USA cannot show favoritism to religion in any way, it would have to sever ties with Israel completely because that is showing religious preferential treatment on a federal level.
>>537920836You will never be human, nigger lol
>>537912230Dude I am a literal fascist that also believes in caste systems and racial genocide. You think I give two fucks about this. Old me would have been like yeah Church and state separation makes sense. But with how rampant degeneracy has become, the time for the religious boot to the neck is here.
>>537913814Usage of the word Nigger has gone up like 3000% so I doubt it. People are more free than during Biden for sure
>>537920784>>537920619>>537911493Put 2 and 2 together. 18 adulthood age theory contradicts Torah Law, which sets adulthood at puberty/13+. If the Powers That Be wanted Torah Law, they would abolish 18 adulthood age theory & let the age of majority return to God & Nature, instead they use 18 adulthood age for blackmail operations via lying teens & for surveillance on the basis that teens might lie about age. The Antichrist claims to be of God while violating God's will. God sets the adulthood at puberty, not 18. You don't need an arbitrary number to determine adulthood, you can look at the physical form of the human, just as you can look at a chimpanzee's phsiology. Noahide/Torah/YHWH Laws are compatible with Sharia, that's not what the Powers that Be Want. The Taliban has 15 year old soldiers they classify as adults per sharia.
>>537920502>'m surprised more businesses aren't just calling themselves a church to dodge taxes lolIt's getting close to that with megachurches.>>537919527>they're opening the door to denominational infighting.Yep, which is exactly what the founding fathers wanted to avoid given that they'd had enough experience with that back in the old world.What MIGA doesn't understand is that freedom from religion is protective for them. It means that the government doesn't get to tell you how your church should be run.
>>537920892Fertile females are not children. Inb4 some precious puberty edge cases.Seethe.
>>537921115So 12 years is okay with you? That's your AOC?
>>537912230>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the pressokay yeah but when the founders wrote this the printing press had to be manually loaded and pressed by hand. there was no way that they could imagine of a fully automatic printing press that can fire upwards of 30 printsheets per minute. its just common sense press control, really.
>>537921097This man wants access to your children
>>537920481Because you're a jew who hates what the Bible actually says. You are the synagogue of Satan .
>>537912197Stop defending America’s founding and start helping destroy these Israel first christcuck nation. It doesn’t matter what the founding was, you can never go back, push forward and destroy the JEWSA.
>>537921188Freedom of religion in 1776 meant you could be Protestant or some other type of protestant as well.
>>537921225;The Man' is called God. God decides that puberty is adulthood just as the Animal Kingdom does. 21 Magical Age Theory is derived from Greek Pagan Climacteric Year Astrology, it has nothing to do with the will of God or the will of Nature.
>>537911493if you want to discuss this please Americans post your posts in a free speech zone, you'll find one in a designated zone near you!
>>537911493Shouldn’t be. Islam, Judaism, paganism, and atheists should be banned from all public offices
>>537921115>>537921139Mary was 12-14. God designed girls to hit puberty around this time. It's not pedo.
>>537921296He hates Jesus and wants your little daughter, shoot him in the face
>>537921287Could you do a rain dance?
>>537921354Would not be advised to do in a city at the time. Best case people would throw things at you. Best case.
>>537921139There's no specific number you can put on reality. Sure, there can be averages. My mawmaw was like 15 or so when she hooked up with my pawpaw. They stayed married until death and had 8 kids. I'm White. I want a family and progeny. Wanting to fuck kids is retarded, they don't give you offspring.
>>537911615Narcissistic Trump doesn't believe in anything. He's not god-fearing, he doesn't attend church. Religion is a tool that the uber elite use to control the people who do believe in those things.
>>537921345Mohammed went younger than that, he justified it with God too
>>537921256Niggers are illiterate.
>>537921462And how old was he, thirty?
>>537921352This is the spirit of the antichrist, it has nothing to do with the will of god. The Taliban openly defied 18 adutlhood age theory in Afghanistan with Sharia & 15 year old soldiers & won.
>>537921483Mohamed had a tiny dick that didn't even hurt prepubescent girls so muslims think it's alright for all of them to do it.
>>537921542They never fought a single pitched battle with American forces that they won, these soldiers never killed a single american
>>537921524~20 iirc.
>>537921474>Religion is a tool that the uber elite use to control the people who do believe in those thingsAnyone with even a passing knowledge of history knows theres been plenty of ultra devout elites. You have a niggers understanding of history. >me broke, all whyte people must be bad then
>>537921483What evidence he was actually boinking them though? >>537921517The Son of God is not a jew like you think. Stop.
>>537921721I'm for the idea of two similar in age individuals pairing up, now a 60 year old assembling a harem like in islam, that shit ain't right, what do you think?
>>537913581Holy esl/literally retarded
>>537921797You can understand my confusion.
>>537921617>>537911493They won like Vietnam did. A win is a win, Americans & Russians attempted to genocide native Afghan Culture & impose 18 magical age theory on them & the Afghans successfully defied them. Americans & Westerners want to destroy all native cultures the way Alexander the Great wanted to Hellenize the World. Alexander destroyed all the native anatolian languages & cultures, that's why Mehmed the Conqueror said he avenged Hector of Troy after he conquered Constantinople.
>>537921797What evidence is there of miracles in the Quran? We have to believe that Mohammed wasn't a eunuch
Isn't it funny how "SEPAWATION OF CHUWCH AND STATE" only comes into their mouths when a christian politioltian mentions god, but when a towelhead makes speeches about allah and how they want sharia law, these people are in the crowd, starry-eyed and drooling?
No FEDERAL religion, but most states had state religions that barred you from entering the state of you didn’t have that religion.
>>537921893They won so hard in vietnam that mcdonalds set up shop there, cause they are just that communist. Every single battle Americans had with these charlies ended in victory for the US, they only won cause they didn't settle permanently. And then again what is there to expect, that the American army would stay in Afghanistan and such for five hundred years?
>>537921765>You have a niggers understanding of history.And yet I'm 100% correct. Imagine arguing with me all the while Trump can't even recite a single Biblical passage.
>>537921797 Sunan an-Nasa'i 3379: "The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine."
>>537918739Pic is ironic considering post-babylon heebs were all mutts and foreigners that didn't even come from the Levant area. It to such a point that heebs couldn't even confirm ownership of old titles or land rights, the 12 tribes were so irreparably broken that they just showhorned them all into the tribe of judah, granting them limited rights.
>>537921843Depends on the situation. Life is messy. I don't think the situation you described would be ideal. I couldn't imagine having to divide my attention that much.
>>537912398Commerce Clause allows the Feds to brain chip all citizens for interstate travel & brainwave status to monitor for anger & antisemitism. Sedition against Israel shall not be tolerated.
christians are subhumans and should be genocided.
>>537922115I didnt reply to you. The point isnt about trump. Its about religion in general. That anon suggested that religion, in all cases, is a tool of elites to suppress people. And I was calling him a stupid nigger
>>537912230Congress didn't make the law. The State of Texas did. Articles 9 and 10, the Congress only gets powers it is Positively given, and anything else not mentioned is a Power the States have.The State of Texas adding Bible Study to their coursework is not the same as Congress handing all churches over to vile Popery.
Nothing makes a teenager less sympathetic to Christianity than being forced to read a bible. Out of touch senile boomers continuing to speedrun the death of their ziocuck religion.
>>537922165It's the difference between a marriage fulfilled in some ideal of a fulfilling relationship, versus a habsburg marriage, some inbred geriatric marrying a sickly twelve year old cause he needs to pop out heirs, and drink that cunny juice. There is the notion that we're past the idea of forcing couples like a hospital triage, I hope you can understand that
>>537922222witnessed
>>537922222
>>537922436Absolutely. What you described is disgusting and dysgenic.
>>537922222Checked. toasting in epileptic bread
>You WILL worship satan and kikes, goyim
>>537920930No shit, but there were laws that had to be granted by the state and slave owner for a slave to become a freeman. Jefferson couldn't just free all his slaves, there was a process. >>537920855Washington freed all his slaves after his wife died through buying them out pretty much, Jefferson estate was bankrupt pretty much his whole life.
>>537922313That was me retard kun. I'm the one saying religion is a precision tool of the elite to control god-fearing masses. The notion that the blatantly corrupt uber elite are >A) god-fearing and >B) fully aware of the immorality of their actions and >C) understand that they are eternally damned because of itmakes no sense. The uber elite are the uber elite becuase they are smart. Yet they are uncharacteristically stupid about religion like you're suggesting? You are redhat-on-head retarded lol
its insane how religion is trendy and marketable in the usa. i feel for any atheists or agnostics. i dont really think its any different to the middle east or israel or any hardcore religious places.
>>537922130That's not proof of intercourse though
>>537922880>Jefferson couldn't just free all his slaves, there was a process.So the other founding fathers that did free their slaves, were lying i guess?>admits Jefferson didnt free his slaves because he was broke. If he really didnt believe in holding people in bondage, he would have found a way. Pretty sure that absolutely massive still standing estate was worth a few bucks. Pretty sure. Why do you insist on not taking this seriously? I dont get it. Whats your angle?
>>537922222witnessed. may you ride eternal, shiny~&~chrome
>>537922222why didn't you say jews
>>537923000Fuck off mohammedconsumateIn a legal, religious, or formal context, it refers to making a marriage or romantic union complete by engaging in sexual intercourse for the first time after the ceremony
>>537922905It's largely cultural and performative IMO. Only super kooks ever really talk about religion outside of church, a prayer around a holiday meal, or a prayer around a funeral.
>>537923218>Only super kooks ever really talk about religion outside of church, a prayer around a holiday meal, or a prayer around a funeral.The problem is government is full of those super kooks and all of them are committed to burning the earth to the ground in the hopes Jesus will come back
>>537922710jews created modern America. American Christians did not. Nice try jew.
>>537922898I didnt say elites arent corrupt or that all of them believe. Is struggling to read just a part of being an ignorant nigger? Because I can break out a box of crayons for you. Here, instead of responding to your dumbass half cocked thoughts, ill distill the conversation down to what its actually about. Is religion, in and of itself, a tool to supress the masses?
>>537923296The only actual christian zionist I can think of is Huckabee, maybe Hegseth. The rest just say what they think will get them more money
>>537912170Fund me where it mentions your christfag shit anywhere in the constitution.
>>537923000that is absolutely proof of intercourse and the definition of of the language in this context.a marriage could only be ANULLED if it had not been CONSUMATED~ her intact maidenhead penetrated.at 9. by an old brown faggot kid molester rapist.basically a jew.
>>537923146From what I have read about Jefferson is that he liked his slaves, he liked their lifestyles and culture. Again, his fondest memory is riding a horse with a slave. My angle defending Jefferson isn't about him not freeing his slaves, it's that he supported the amendment clause, of he was a profiting money and power hungry slave owner he wouldn't have agreed with such a clause, and he would have actually used his slaves for making money, which he clearly didn't.
>>537923380... the entirety of liberalism is based on christianity. This would be like you asking to see air. Everywhere all around you at once.
>>537923217 It's possible for girls to hit puberty at 9 maybe it's not common but possible. Allah designed this way.
>>537923304Silence, nigger. >>537923359This. I live in rural BFE bible belt and I know of only ONE house that flys an israel flag. kike worship is by and large dead.
>>537911493The phrase separation and state comes from a footnote in a supreme court opinion written by a jewish judge about 70 years ago. There is no legal basis for it whatsoever but jews have been using it for decades to keep religious activities out of schools. The constitution forbids a state sponsored religion like the Church of England
>>537923589Aisha didn't have her first period until she was 14.Mohammed dick was so small it didn't even damage her and cause her to shit herself for the rest of her life like most child brides do.
>>537911493Gonna be rough when these guys find out all the founding fathers were deists
>dan Patrick doesn't understand the difference between what's literally in the constitution and the interpretations of the constitutionHow come Republicans are so stupid?
>>537923716>The same jew is still trying to convince Timmy not to follow ChristKek
>>537923815They'll just make up shit and substitute their insanity for objective reality EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
>>537923985>>537924174 Notice which quote is properly cited.
>>537923788There's no evidence of the age when Aisha pbuh had her first period it's completely unclear. As long as she started having it regardless of age then it's fine, inshallah. This is Gods design.
>>537923539>it's that he supported the amendment clause, of he was a profiting money and power hungry slave owner he wouldn't have agreed with such a clause,Which is why he didnt free his slaves because of how broke he was while living in a large house on like 100 acres? Im sure he thought he was serious too. Thats what it means to be unserious. You arent capable of being serious. Im sure you think youre being serious too.
>>537911493>Aaron (((Rupar)))Fuck off with your TwatterKike screencap threads.
>>537923788Notice how he says pbuh for aisha, he's a fucking 'slim using a Templar flag
>>537924174>>537924254(((Goebbels said)))(((Muh deism)))(((America was not a Christian nation)))KEK!!! go away jews
>>537924482Mental niggers and spiritual jews. That's what christ cattle are.
>>537924274Everythings documented I can't believe why anybody is still following your gay religion.
>>537920728came here to say this, glhf zealots.
>>537924440it doesn't mean I'm a Muslim. I'm fully American born and raised ChristChad. Literally every culture would marry pre 18 girls years ago. It was the norm.
>>537924746Yeah and they'd drink camel urine too, christchad my ass, no Christian says pbuh for Islamic folklore characters
>>537914154The "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" part is your freedom is religion. The establishment clause does not use establishment as a verb. It is not talking about establishing a religion. It is using establishment as a noun, qualified by an indefinite article. Grammatically it only makes sense to be referring to the use of the word establishment as meaning institution.To "pass a law respecting a creation of religion" does not make grammatical sense. To "pass a law respecting an institution of religion" does make grammatical sense.
>>537911493That’s right, the US is a judaic state
>>537924928You don't see me saying drinking piss is based do you? No because I'm not a pajeet. I'm just making the point Islam is right about women.
republicans trying to take you guys back to the stone ages
>>537925174And I'm supposed to be shocked? because im really not.
>>537925122It's not pajeets who have a fascination with camel urine, it is Muslims, they're the ones talking about its uses. What do you think about Mohammed? Was he a Christlike man?
>>537921062ok jamboy
>>537925333Pajeets it's cow piss and shit.Arabe it's camel piss and shit.I don't know much about muhammed. All I know is Islam is right about women.
>>537925752Okay, why do you say that is, are you a fan of Hijab, or is it because you're a lolicon? Japan doesn't need Allah to do what they do
>>537919504>Are you asking for Congress to step in and prohibit the Texas Board of Education from exercising their religious rights>their religious rightsI don't think it's constitutional to force their "religious rights" into the minds of 5 million students in public schools. This will be challenged and will probably make it to the Supreme Court.I hope Texas finally turns blue this fall.
>>537916002damn they got jeets in hungary too
Why do you guys want religious grifters anywhere near politics? Just what the world needs, more unaccountable psychopaths using their interpretation of desert fairy tales to influence if not impose on the lives of citizens.
>>537923214he did
>>537912892for the downies, drug addicts, newfags, and faggot dnc/gop lovers, it means the government cant make a national religion or declare an official church, OR pass any law that favors a religion over any other
