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So far the Democrats hate the DSA, Trump and Republicans hate the DSA, then Israel and AIPAC hates the DSA

I guess Mamdani really was the turning point, huh
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>On the campaign trail, Mamdani has stated that he wants to work to combat hate crimes across New York City, including those on Jews.
>In the UJA-Federation town hall, Mamdani also said that he would be “proud” to appoint a senior adviser to tackle antisemitism in New York.

>Just before the primary, he appeared on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” alongside Brad Lander, a Jewish progressive who finished third in the ranked-choice primary; the two had cross-endorsed each other in the race. In the appearance, Mamdani claimed that the city is experiencing a “crisis of antisemitism” and said that he would like to create a Department of Community Safety that would focus on anti-hate programming.

>“Antisemitism is not simply something that we should talk about — it’s something that we have to tackle,” he said on the show. “We have to make clear there’s no room for it in this city, in this country.”

>Platner launched his Senate campaign on August 19, 2025, with a video produced by Morris Katz, a senior adviser and admaker for New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani.

reminder Mamdani is a judeophile, and you can't believe any, literally ANY, politician is talking about "jews" when criticizing AIPAC, Israel, or zionism until you see their statements about jews
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for that matter you can't be sure anyONE is talking about "jews" when criticizing those things
most are just setting up an unpleasant future surprise
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>>537931714
Van jones is a mush mouthed hack doing his best to be the next james carvell
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>>537931714
Wow what a wet noodle of a message to end on. “Hey we’re still cool with old rich kikes stealing from you, but also AMERICA” as if the people who voted for Kamala are patriotic for rich people and “free enterprise” as the platform. Brain dead, tone deaf, wet paper towel message that actually chastises the reader.
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>>537931714
>but you don't hate rich people, cops, free enterprise, the West, Israel and the United States of America
So I guess both of them agree on open borders.
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>>537931714
>Israel
There it is. What a traitorous faggot.
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>>537932586
importing exponentially cheaper workers is pure capitalism
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>>537931714
Where were these reasonable Democrats the past 15 years?
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>>537931714
Mamdani is based and jews are freaking out that they cant control the goyim like they once did when they only had to deal with leaded-gasoline-huffing low iq boomers that watch the talmudvision.
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>>537932818
enjoying the illusion of winning the same jews are letting the right enjoy right now
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>>537931714
It's a deliberate play. The hard left will be used to make Gavin Newsom look like a centrist and help him appeal to swing voters.
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>>537932887
I don't think there's going to be a 28 election
and the next left president is AOC
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>>537931714
2028 is going to be interesting. Starting to look like the left is gearing up to tear itself apart again.
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>>537933156
do you seriously think the right isn't right now
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are you one of those guys that just calls everyone criticizing Trump lefties or trannies
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>>537931714
It's scared
Boomers are losing it , for the first time they can feel their power slipping
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Janny, please see the attatched image and deal with the spambot >>537933081 accordingly.
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>>537933219
It will happen on both sides. Lots of anti-israel candidates will run, and some of them will win. AIPAC might be able to beat Massie, but when there are hundreds of candidates at a local, state and federal level, they will get crushed.
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>>537931714
The DSA didnt build shit, the Democrat party donors built it all. It got out of their control and now the Democrats are panicking over something that they themselves created as a weapon against Trump supporters.
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>>537931714
what a house nigger lol
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>>537933440
>AIPAC might be able to beat Massie
>a senator in Kentucky
>could not stop Mamdani in a mayoral race in their power base city if the actually wanted to >>537931877
>Platner directly connected to Mamdani
the only thing that Massie really proved was that ACTUAL opposition is forced out entirely
>you can't believe any, literally ANY, politician is talking about "jews" when criticizing AIPAC, Israel, or zionism until you see their statements about jews
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>>537933219
Vance and Rubio are both inoffensive enough. There is nothing the right is split on like the Left is on Israel. The Right is the party of Israel and will not deviate from that position. Rightoids will fall in line and vote accordingly. Only lefties are principled and retarded enough to torpedo their chance of power over a disagreement of belief.
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>>537933656
>There is nothing the right is split on like the Left is on Israel. The Right is the party of Israel
are you one of those guys that just calls everyone criticizing Trump lefties or trannies
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>The Right is the party of Israel
why do you think they're forcing the right wing/Israel and christian/Israel associations so fucking hard lately

hint: it's nothing good for whites
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What is all this DSA propaganda slop that's got the migger cattle worked up? I'm not familiar with this new psyop
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Mamdani retained Trump family friend and turbo zionist Jessica Tisch as police commisioner in New York and recently endorsed turbo zionist Brad Lander. Zorhan just dog whistles against AIPAC and does some performative "free Palestine" theatrics for votes. Same as other faux radicals like Bernie and AOC (who are both handled by zionist Matt Duss). These faux radicals constantly launders the genocide and atrocities Israel committs. They are just the left end of the controlled opposition like how e.g. Tucker, Fuentes, Candace etc. are the right end of the controlled opposition.
There is no genuine opposition against Israel in the United States at any significant level.
This is almost the same zeitgeist going on right now as the Dubya era with only slight variations. Trump is another republican right wing scapegoat installed to look all dumb, right wing and evil for the Iran war and the economy just like Dubya was installed in order to be president as 9/11, Iraq and the great recession all went down and look all dumb, right wing and evil during it.
Harris threw 2024 to Trump. Hillary threw 2016 to him as well. Hillary could have challenged the results and had a path in so doing but folded because the Democrats wanted another Republican evil dumbass right wing scapegoat presidency. Biden and Harris utterly fumbled 2024 without even giving themselves a path for the same purpose. Gore threw 2000 to Bush for the same reason. Lieberman threw the VP debate to Cheney that election as well. Gore obviously had a path and could have kept challenging the results. But he threw it. Because just like now with Trump they needed Bush to be the scapegoat that looks all dumb, evil and right wing for them.
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>OP 1 pbtid
>turning point
Not if they somehow think that 'taking over large urban centers' (or whatever) is the new strategy.
Just because Mamdani-endorsements won a bunch of NYC primaries doesn't mean it's the future of Democratic Party politics.
Yes obviously the establishment was "worried" about ZM prior to him getting the Mayorship. Nothing about NYC is going to 'improve' and time will show and verify that. It's all entirely hot air and hype.
Democratic Party nationwide is a non-entity (as is the GOP which only actually has had Trump for past decade)
>no platform
>no message
>no backbench
>no leaders
>no front-runners
>no major donors

No the DSA isn't 'the future' of national D Party politics either. It's just a narrow demographic of nonskilled urbandwellers that are post-1990s university-brainwashed with globalist woke propaganda. The main national DNC is still focused on citrus caesar bad. Both parties, nationally in the D.C. swamp, are simply waiting for Trump to die or be thrown out.

>>537933440
>both sides
>anti-israel candidates will run
Matt Gaetz predicted this a year ago, from both major national U.S. parties. This is the real uncertainty (for both Ds and GOP) of how national American electoral politics shakes out. Obviously the 'pro-Palestine' focus (while in part morally justified) isn't going to get a foothold, so you can basically write off the Mamdani-styled insurrectionism in the major urban populatino centers; those are an insulated bubble. They don't represent America, American values and are largely anti-American i.e. they want to pack the U.S. Supreme Court, overthrow or invalidate the U.S. Constitution etc. It's going nowhere fast. Won't gain mainstream adoption. Anti-Israel sentiment though is gaining mainstream normie adoption.
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>>537933976
I actually remember the 2000s and its political zeitgeist. It was similar to now. There was A LOT of awareness about Israel and Zionism making the rounds back then too. In fact I would argue people were actually MORE enlightened about it back then and the pushback you are seeing to the Iran war now is NOTHING compared to the scrutiny and protests against the Iraq war back in the day. But it was a bit less online (we already had internet and used its potential back then too) back then. Now most people just vent on social media as Israel is more powerful than ever despite the deceptive perception and media charades like the farcical ICC warrants.
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>>537934132
>Anti-Israel sentiment though is gaining mainstream normie adoption.
Its not though. Its a charade. A deception. Use track zionist instead of track AIPAC.
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>>537933976
>>537934133
>>537934216
>Sweden flag
(You) know Absolutely Nothing. Shut the fuck up and deal with Sweden, dumb fuck.
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>>537933976
>There is no genuine opposition against Israel in the United States at any significant level.
this, not anywhere that counts for anything
>almost the same zeitgeist going on right now as the Dubya era with only slight variations.
Trump somehow managed to catch a similar patriotic fervor wave to Dubya without a 9/11, even

the main difference between them is Dubya was legitimately kind of dumb, just a puppet ruler for former CIA director GHW Bush's second-third terms (done in service to mossad as usual); Trump is retarded on purpose
he actually DOES play 6 million D chess
against goyim
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>>537931714
To any anons still fighting the forces of Shodan: The Jews and Good Goys who run the central banks and everything else can't yield on the power to issue currency and charge interest, mass immigration, nuclear weapons and massive militaries, trade routes and oil. If they ever do they become powerless. You can predict the next wars once you understand this.
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>>537934133
>There was A LOT of awareness about Israel and Zionism making the rounds back then too.
not here, really
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The phony anti-zionism of the right is a particularly grotesque deception.
Trump of course got this charade going in 2015 by framing himself as some sort of anti-neocon and critic of the Iraq war and bla bla bla. Then he gets into office two times and continues the same neocon policies Obama and Bush had employed.
Then you have Tucker who is sort of the thought leader of this contrived fake ass anti-Israel grifting on the right. He is still the same neocon as he was back in the day when he was THE head cheerleader for the Iraq war on Fox. Now he just grotesquely pretends he is the opposite.
Then you have these clowns on the left like Jimmy Dore (who lives in a Studio City mansion next door to the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio) who platforms turbo-zionists like RFK Jr and also does the same pretend anti-zionist schtick Tucker does but a leftist version of it instead.
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>>537934724
nobody cares what you have to say, you libshit european pussy
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mega-clever play by the left funded by Jewish George Soros
37 Soros million into the Mamdani campaign
money pumped into NYC to make Mamdani seem successful
downplay gay & tranny & migration for a while
focus on the economic hardship for ordinary people especially youth, who can't afford an apartment or health insurance even with a 'good' job
leverage the anti-Zionist anger for the time being, to enable the Jewish Soros globalist socialist agenda
smart Soros & co
they will win
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>>537934724
Tucker and Colbert's right wing larp thing both started at around the same time, Tucker's was just supposed to be taken seriously and he's never totally dropped the character
nobody was supposed to take Colbert seriously but somehow some did
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>>537931714
If you don't hate rich "people" you are a retard and deserve to die.
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Tucker gives the same kind of super subtle tells Sacha Cohen does btw, at least in the Ali G show days when he was trying much harder
guess who else started around the same time those 2 did
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>Democratic party infighting
>again
Oh boy, can't wait for the landslide Republican victory in 2028
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>>537935155
>infighting
the socialist democrats are winning elections and primaries recently while the aipac-backed democrats aren't. go be clueless elsewhere.
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The media is in full blown panic about it and it’s backfiring because nobody trusts the media anymore
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>>537934306
>(You) know Absolutely Nothing. Shut the fuck up and deal with Sweden, dumb fuck.
I can only take that as confirmation that I know more than you are comfortable with.
>>537934552
Your memory is still hazy then. Mine seems clearer.
A lot of the stuff that was online back then too you can not even find anymore. Not even on the wayback machine. So its not like I even can cite anything broadly. But I still remember tons of that stuff.
>>537934500
>Trump somehow managed to catch a similar patriotic fervor wave to Dubya without a 9/11, even
Yeah. 11/9 (the date he got elected in 2016) instead of 9/11. Clever, huh?
>the main difference between them is Dubya was legitimately kind of dumb, just a puppet ruler for former CIA director GHW Bush's second-third terms (done in service to mossad as usual); Trump is retarded on purpose
I actually played it up too. Just like Trump obviously does.
And speaking H.W. Bush the charade in the media recently about Trump and Bibi breaking up and all that nonsense actually echoes the theater between H.W. Bush and Shamir back in the early 1990s too in some ways.
Trump and Vance are now pretending they oppose West Bank annexation too. Even though the West Bank is basically already de facto annexed since during Trumps first term. So its just a hollow farce. And they do it because they get away with it.
Never forget the Mossads motto. Thats the light one should see the current wave of phony, contrived and controlled anti-Israel sentiment to both the left and right. And its gonna collapse again just like it did at the end of the Dubya era into Obama-ish liberal zionist centrism. And that liberal zionist centrist will of course performatively finger wag at Israel too like Obama did while still being a major benefactor to the zionist terror regime regardless.
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all these guys, coming out around the same time, all larping as right wing to a more or less serious degree, most turning out to be left and shabbos or stereotypical jew as all fuck
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>>537935302
*I think Dubya actually played it up too. Just like Trump obviously does.
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>>537935302
>Mine seems clearer.
I meant here as in the US, not here as in the internet
much of that generation of males grew up watching shit like platoon and were fucking raring to fucking go to war, nobody was talking about ZOG and all that
this show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Kill_(miniseries) nailed that very well
>11/9 (the date he got elected in 2016) instead of 9/11. Clever, huh?
lel
>And its gonna collapse again just like it did at the end of the Dubya era into Obama-ish liberal zionist centrism. And that liberal zionist centrist will of course performatively finger wag at Israel too like Obama did while still being a major benefactor to the zionist terror regime regardless.
unfortunately this time frendo we as in whites are the chickens in a kapprot, they're transferring Israel and zionism's sins off onto us and the concept of "white supremacy"
nothing in Israel will change and they'll just say in the media the palestinian jews own it again after the evil white supremacist nazi zionist christian fundamentalist netanyahu regime got something'd
and it will work, it already is, vast majority of the left doesn't even see "jews" in Israel, >>537931877 people like Mamdani are already distinctly separating jews from Israel and zionism, and the fucking vast majority of the right doesn't even see it coming, can't see it at all, they're just so happy to feel like the jews are going anywhere
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>>537934552
Yeah im calling bullshit on that guy, wasnt until obama that people started poking around what really happened

Tucker might be controlled op but the other day he posted an interview on X shitting on dispensationalism and talking about how jews gained theyre foothold here in our country, that was a truthnuke if there ever was one
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>>537935302
>Anonymous (ID: JJk+y8YH) """"Sweden flag"""" 6 pbtid
Get the fuck out of here with (You)r pilpul, Ehud.
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>>537935236
>democrats are winning in... LE DEMOCRAT STRONGHOLDS
would you just dilate yourself in the head with a shotgun already, tranny
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>>537933058
lolno
Her opposition will simply dig out things like pic related and then she will have some explaining to do. Although at this point Jews are going to steal the election anyway
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>>537931714
>Israel
LOL
Kikes are so fucking cooked
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>>537935716
>I meant here as in the US, not here as in the internet
No it was rampant in the US back. The Dubya era was the peak of Farrakhans fame for one.
>much of that generation of males grew up watching shit like platoon and were fucking raring to fucking go to war, nobody was talking about ZOG and all that
Much of it grew up very skeptical of the first Iraq and Bill Clintons bullshit in the 90s too. Yes. 9/11 temporarily blind sided many up until 2003 when Iraq got going and people really started seeing through it all again. I remember this. I was keyed in to the consensus on both sides of the atlantic back then.
>unfortunately this time frendo we as in whites are the chickens in a kapprot, they're transferring Israel and zionism's sins off onto us and the concept of "white supremacy"
Again its nothing new. This is what happened with Bush too. Now granted they are taking it even further now with Trump and really hammering it home that Trump is Armilus from the Sefer Zerubbabel.
>>537935716
>nothing in Israel will change and they'll just say in the media the palestinian jews own it again after the evil white supremacist nazi zionist christian fundamentalist netanyahu regime got something'd
>and it will work, it already is, vast majority of the left doesn't even see "jews" in Israel, >>537931877 people like Mamdani are already distinctly separating jews from Israel and zionism, and the fucking vast majority of the right doesn't even see it coming, can't see it at all, they're just so happy to feel like the jews are going anywhere
All true. But its still just a more extreme version now of what already happened before twice when the Reagan era collapsed in 1992 and when when the Dubya regime collapsed in 2008.
But yeah. Its very, very deceptive. Especially these judas goats (who are in on it) to the right like Tucker and Fuentes.
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>>537936327
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If the DSA is its own political party and coalition governments aren't a thing in America, then why in the mother of fuck do the DNC allow them to run in their own primaries and continue to finance them with their own money? Explain this shit to me, because I really can't understand why demoncrat head honchos can't simply threaten to kick these pieces of shit commies out if they don't toe the party line, like they used to do until recently. Also, explain to me why the Communist Control Act of 1958 was never applied against these bolshevik scumbags.
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>>537931714
oh snap... it's another release-the-blackies-to-upend-another-class-struggle episode
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>>537935736
>Yeah im calling bullshit on that guy, wasnt until obama that people started poking around what really happened
Your memory is very selective. Second Bush term until the Obama election happened was PEAK conspiracy culture. You think Israel is getting scrutinized now? How the fuck do you not remember 2005, 2006 and 2007?
>>537935827
Not going anywhere, shill. The fact that you get so upset just makes me want to stay and spit even more facts if the opportunity presents itself.
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>>537931714
I just really fucking hate antiracism (it's just racism), generational guilt, mass immigration and soft-on-crime retardation. I could vote for DSA candidates if not for those things
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>>537936682
right now there is a panic because the corpo-dems do not want to lose the blacks to DSA so they are going to pander even harder
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>>537931714
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>>537931714
Maybe if they could deliver better things for people they woulnd't have this DSA "problem" to begin with.
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>>537933976
And btw. Netanyahu is an ebil right wing scapegoat too thats doing all the dirty work now until he gets replaced by a more liberal/centrist type in Israel.
Sefer Zerubbabel. Its all in there. Trump is Armilus (a fake gentile messiah). Netanyahu is messiah son of Joseph (fake jewish messiah). The Ayatollah is king Shiroy.
Veteran schizo Christopher Jon Bjerknes who is sometimes really cringe but sometimes really based and insightful already had this pegged two decades ago during the Dubya years.
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>>537932818
Identity Politics as we know them were invented by the "reasonable Democrats" as a way to stop the progressives from uniting under the DSA.
The fact no one cares about idpol anymore except for the Republicans terrifies them.
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>>537933656
Young republicans hate the current pro-israel side of the party and don't vote.
Old republicans are dying.
The majority of dems are anti-israel, but the Dem leadership is pro-israel.
The big question is how much of Dem leadership will get thrown out before 2028 or will get thrown out with 2028.
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>>537936465
>>537937045
Didn't it come out a little bit ago that the DNC was basically bribing the Black Caucus to vote pro-Israel, and then when the members started getting confronted on the street about the fact they were taking bribes, half of them outright admitted to it and the other half changed positions out of fear?
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>>537938591
The public to both the left and right has been fed up with Israel forever. But they keep getting deceived and put back to sleep by liberal zionist centrist Dems like Obama or republicans pretending to be anti-neocon for votes like Trump. The likes of Mamdani and Tucker are deceiving them now too.
This is nothing new or unprescedented. Its just a different era with slightly different means of deception.
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>>537936391
Part of the RNC/DNC being enshrined in US law (there are laws protecting those two parties to ensure a third party can't ever truly get power without a massive national upset), requires them to be open to outsiders who meet certain qualifications.
The DSA makes sure their members meet those qualifications, so while technically a third party, they can use DNC funding as long as they win their primaries.
The DNC would like to be against this, but recently the DNC has a massive stink because of David Hogg.
He was the young guy who started a super pac specifically to support younger/newer Dems to get rid of older/corporate Dems.
As a DNC chair he was directing DNC funds to help out his younger people get rid of establishment people.
The DNC had such a shitfit over this that they basically banned any and all fucking with primaries, as part of the excuse to kick him out of his seat, thinking this would never bite them in the ass.
It is now biting them in the ass.
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>>537933219
Its too early to have formed a coalition big enough to matter. The Republican split is between boomer trumptards and a trad progressive conservativism wing. The latter will win eventually with time as the existing Republican infrastructure cant survive post trump/boomer.

If i had to guess, the new rights platform would be roughly
>Closed borders
>Keep roe where its currently at
>Reform social security/medicare
>Reform MIC to be more streamlined and less backdoor than it currently is
>No military cuts, but become aggressively isolationist. Monroe doctrine light, but return to focus on western hemisphere
>Voter ID
>Substantive infrastructure increases/repairs

Think of halfway between Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower. Competent and conservative in the sense that they are actually more forward thinking than next election cycle. The goal is to build.
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>>537939105
>Think of halfway between Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower. Competent and conservative in the sense that they are actually more forward thinking than next election cycle. The goal is to build.
That's the dream isn't it?
Also I found it funny reading more about Eisenhower recently and learning how at his time Republicans were freaking out about how he actually wanted to help people instead of just telling Americans to go fuck themselves.
Shame about the whole regime change bullshit, but no president is perfect.
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>>537931714
No normal person is passionate about neoliberalism.
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>>537931714
The Democrats will never ask themselves how these people came to be in the first place. They created this golem and now it's turning on its master.
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>>537939404
Eisenhower was scum and a german praising him is basically peak Stockholm syndrome.
He also gets a pass by many for the Suez crisis and supposedly standing up to Israel that way. Another charade and deception.
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>>537939404
>Eisenhower
one would never believe that this was once the mainstream Republican platform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU
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>>537939583
Eisenhower arrived at a time when Republicans hated the idea of giving Americans any kind of support or social safety net.
His administration had loads of horrors, the fact he let the Dulles brothers make ANY decisions at all and didn't execute those fuckers for treason shows he still had a lot of issues.
But he also turned the republican party from a relic that was going to die out into >>537939755 as said, along with a few other major changes, that sadly did not survive through Nixon, and Reagan made sure to seal the coffin.
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>>537936512
>Anonymous (ID: JJk+y8YH) """""Sweden flag"""" ELEVEN POSTS BY THIS ID IN A UNITED STATES INTERNAL DOMESTIC POLITICS TOPIC
Get killed.
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>>537939467
For this reason, the standard democrat has reached and passed its high tide of power. They have no new bodies nor do they have anything to really sell.

Its the political equivalent of a microwaved burger. Soggy, overdone, tough to swallow, uninteresting. Its like trying to convince a recently released prisoner that they should continue eating slop because thats what they always did in prison. Its dishonest to the current state of things in innumerable ways
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>>537939755
He was such a deceptive piece of odious shit with that memed and shitposted statement. Because he was a pivotal figure in developing and swelling the MIC himself. He helped create the monster without blinking or regretting it only to turn around right before he left office and concern troll a little about it.
Eisenhower were one of the worst. One of the absolute worst.
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>>537939891
>But he also turned the republican party from a relic that was going to die out
Too bad he arrived then. The GOP should have died. Fuck Cuckservashitism.
He also made turbo liberal republican Earl Warren chief justice and desegregated schools at gun point. You left that out.
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>>537939974
>>537939467
It's actually a bit bizarre, personal anecdote here, but a relative of mine in the US through their studies is now 1 degree of separation from the paypal mafia in terms of who their friend group is.
This relative went from so hardcore progressive that I was trying to tone them down a bit to be more reasonable, and now they openly talk about how much they hate the progressives at school because liberalism (and more specifically neoliberalism) is clearly what's best for everyone.
It honestly baffles me how this change occurs, but I suspect when you're constantly exposed to super wealthy people who owe their money/power to neoliberalism, you think that's just the way to go.

>>537940088
I realize this is hard to understand, but desegregation is a good thing, the issue is that the US didn't go far enough.
When you have underperforming communities, the answer isn't to just throw money at them, but to force the communities to break apart and start working with better communities, allowing social pressures to force the underperformers to meet the standards of society as a whole.
If an underperformer proceeds to bring down a well performing community, you can now identify that particular household as an issue and take steps necessary to reeducate, imprison, or deport the troublemakers, depending on the exact nature of the situation.
The majority of people, if separated from their peer group and forced to fit in with a peer group that is upstanding, will adapt to be more upstanding.
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>>537939974
But this is almost verbatim what people said after Kerry lost to Bush in 2004. Then Obama happened. The likes of Mamdani are the new Obama types dog whistling and deceiving the disgruntled left. Obama ran as a very vocal critic of neocons and their wars for Israel in 2008. Sure he spoke at AIPAC and all that. But he was basically doing a left wing version of what Trump then did in 2016 pretending to be anti-neocon but right wing.
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>>537940413
>I realize this is hard to understand, but desegregation is a good thing, the issue is that the US didn't go far enough.
>When you have underperforming communities, the answer isn't to just throw money at them, but to force the communities to break apart and start working with better communities, allowing social pressures to force the underperformers to meet the standards of society as a whole.
>If an underperformer proceeds to bring down a well performing community, you can now identify that particular household as an issue and take steps necessary to reeducate, imprison, or deport the troublemakers, depending on the exact nature of the situation.
>The majority of people, if separated from their peer group and forced to fit in with a peer group that is upstanding, will adapt to be more upstanding.
Well the problem is that there was a trans atlantic slave trade to begin with. The problem also is that there is this shitlib masonic social expirement called the United States trying to do this cosmopolitan melting pot nonsense to begin with. That just exploits e.g. black people with Capitalism and and a welfare state in roundabout ways with a cute sounding pitch and material goodies anyway. It just produces broken and disturbed people like Michael Jackson (the embodiment of and end result of the liberal idea).
And stop having Stockholm syndrome for your occupier. Its grotesque.
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>>537939891
I agree on the foreign policy bit, but what I speak of is the infrastructure that was built out in his admin
>Interstate highway system
>Rail improvements nationwide
>Modernized building codes (can be debated here as this created suburbia, but its a mixed bag in my boat because it standardized many common home systems like electrical and plumbing codes)
>Tried to build out the MIC in a manner that would be honest but capable, but ended up making a bog out of it in the name of state secrecy, which led to the backdoor deals i spoke of previously becoming the standard in defense spending

He could have done better, obviously, but at the very least he was the most forward thinking post ww2 president. At least there was a vision
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>>537941272
The infrastructure he ripped off from the conquered germans that is.
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>>537931714
They're freaking the fuck out, lol.
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[Original post # 537934132]

>OP 1 pbtid
>turning point
Not if they somehow think that 'taking over large urban centers' (or whatever) is the new strategy.
Just because Mamdani-endorsements won a bunch of NYC primaries doesn't mean it's the future of Democratic Party politics.
Yes obviously the establishment was "worried" about ZM prior to him getting the Mayorship. Nothing about NYC is going to 'improve' and time will show and verify that. It's all entirely hot air and hype.
Democratic Party nationwide is a non-entity (as is the GOP which only actually has had Trump for past decade)
>no platform
>no message
>no backbench
>no leaders
>no front-runners
>no major donors

No the DSA isn't 'the future' of national D Party politics either. It's just a narrow demographic of nonskilled urbandwellers that are post-1990s university-brainwashed with globalist woke propaganda. The main national DNC is still focused on citrus caesar bad. Both parties, nationally in the D.C. swamp, are simply waiting for Trump to die or be thrown out.

>>537933440
>both sides
>anti-israel candidates will run
Matt Gaetz predicted this a year ago, from both major national U.S. parties. This is the real uncertainty (for both Ds and GOP) of how national American electoral politics shakes out. Obviously the 'pro-Palestine' focus (while in part morally justified) isn't going to get a foothold, so you can basically write off the Mamdani-styled insurrectionism in the major urban populatino centers; those are an insulated bubble. They don't represent America, American values and are largely anti-American i.e. they want to pack the U.S. Supreme Court, overthrow or invalidate the U.S. Constitution etc. It's going nowhere fast. Won't gain mainstream adoption. Anti-Israel sentiment though is gaining mainstream normie adoption.
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>>537941401
DNC is, correct. But it's not really of consequence since the Democratic Party nationwid has been a dead donkey for more than a decade.
The globalist hold-outs are the blue population-weight center Oxygen Bubbles. That's where Tides Foundation-soros pumps the billions $$$$$$$ into.
Their oxygen can easily be cut off. Watch closely what happens to NYC in the next year or two.

GOP is just as fucked. When Trump dies it's over.
Both major parties D and R in the D.C. swamp can't fucking wait for Trump to die or be thrown out so they can get back to Business As Usual. Look at the United States Senate, right now. (stalling on the Save America Act). GOP fucking hates Trump's goddamned guts. They all hate populism of any stripe: D or R
They fucking hate it, and that's why all of D.C. establishment hates Trump. No matter the political Uniparty.
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>>537939941
Well it unfortunately matters for the rest of us what goes on in your mental asylum of a country. Not my fault.
Domestic and Foreign policy intertwines.
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>>537941513
There's obviously some big guns behind mamdani, he's possibly an exit ramp from the geopolitical failure of Israel.

But he's actually doing shit and putting slumlords in their place
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>>537941513
You seem schizo but I'll ask anyway
Give it to me straight. Is he Thiel connected?
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>>537942092
>Anonymous (ID: JJk+y8YH) """""Sweden flag"""" *SEVENTEEN POSTS* BY THIS ID IN A UNITED STATES INTERNAL DOMESTIC POLITICS TOPIC
Shove it up (You)r orifices Ehud.
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>>537931714
Doesn't really matter
Those fags are involved with the kikes as well
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>DSA wins in very blue districts, in very blue city, in very blue state
This is the nothingburger of all nothingburgers.
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>>537942226
You may as well be the one named Ehud here shilling your deceptive hasbara about how e.g. all the D.C. establishment hates Trump in 2026.
No, clown. The establishment loves deceptive populists to both the left and right like Trump and Mamdani. They provide plausible deniability. Right wing populists pretend they are anti-neocon. Left wing popilists pretend they they actually want to free Palestine and end AIPAC and all that. But its all a deception as I have laid out in this thread beginning here: >>537933976
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>>537931714
Zohran “Niggerkiller” Mamdani is going to publicly execute all liberals
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>>537942221
>memeflag <--with schizo question
Who cares?
Peter Thiel is just another broligarch Faggot (Andrieessen, Altman, Musk, etc.) None of them control anything. Yes obviously in the broad sense the Technocracy is one of their goals. Same as under Biden-Harris. Doesn't make a difference with the Uniparty the Technoligarchs are going to make a play for whoever wins/is in office.

Re-read the post (You) replied to. This is all just electoral politics anyway. See the picrel in post # 537934132 :

the Democratic Party, as regards electoral politics and being able to 'win elections', has placed all their eggs and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ into the blue population-weight urban centers (for a variety of reasons). They have after 2016 completely lost the EthnoCoalitionOfColor, with hispanics and blacks voting GOP / maga / Trump. So they can't rely on that any more nationwide. Now this new DSA-strategy is to totally 'dominate' the major urban centers.
New York City is somewhat unique. It is the hub of global finance and all of that is concentrated in Manhattan with post-1970s Financialization, but the city—and state of New York—is vastly in debt and dependent on gov financing / contracts / programs. So essentially this DSA-style strategy is to somehow create globalist 'hamlets' in each of the major U.S. urban population centers in the hope that, using the leverage of several of the biggest Mamdani-headed cities together, they can overthro the United States federal government. It's not going to work
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>>537931714
In the end the DSA will just be co-opted like the Tea Party, assuming it's not already. Their attacks on the DSA feel more like promotion, reverse psychology, so...
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>>537942500
>Anonymous (ID: JJk+y8YH) """""Sweden flag"""" *EIGHTEEN POSTS* BY THIS ID IN A UNITED STATES INTERNAL DOMESTIC POLITICS TOPIC
Fuck off Ehud.


>all the D.C. establishment hates Trump
checked, Correct.
They want him and entire family *Dead* in prison.
If ? the Republican Party nationally—in the U.S. House and Senate, D.C.—loses the upcoming November 2026 election significantly, and loses both houses of U.S. Congress all of those committees will be turned into criminal investigations in addition to the impeachment of Trump. GOP has a lot riding on the November '26 election. And if the Democrats win big in November, the GOP - RNC isn't going to lift a fucking finger to help Trump or his family: in contrast they'll gleefully participate in the Democrats' witchburning festivities. (Pretty much as they did in the late 2010s)
RNC will throw Trump and Trump-ism under the bus so fucking fast it'll make your head spin
Again, look closely at exactly what the United States Senate is doing right now late June 2026
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>>537942849
>They want him and entire family *Dead* in prison.
Yeah sure they do, Mike Johnson.
I am not even responding to the rest of your hasbara about how this media theater you want people to take seriously.
Trump is a scapegoat for them though. But they still love the cover and alibi he has provided with his populist deception.
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>>537931714
I'm voting DSA
Fuck pigs, fuck the rich and fuck Israel
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>>537942752
Of course, no party other than the common two is allowed, after all
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>>537943066
>Anonymous (ID: JJk+y8YH) """"Sweden flag"""" *NINTEEN POSTS* BY THIS ID IN A UNITED STATES INTERNAL DOMESTIC POLITICS TOPIC
Fuck off Ehud you've been BTFO. Get out and Stay Out.


(RE: Mike Johnson he's turned tables so many times even prior to his nomination as House Speaker nobody knows which way he's headed; only thing certain is he's a uniparty globalist stooge of the D.C. swamp)
checked
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>>537943188
Ahem
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>>537942849
>>537943066
Want to know how fake and gay it all really is?
Go look back on what Dubya ran on in 2000. He was basically a Trump style populist too. Right down to the no new wars deception. He scolded the Clinton administration for being too interventionist.
The rest is history. Thats repeating now with Trump as well.
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>>537943214
>>537943214
>only thing certain is he's a uniparty globalist stooge of the D.C. swamp
And so is Trump. But Trump has provided a lot of alibi and cover with his populist deception since 2015.
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>>537931714
>(((Corporate Democrats)))
So aipac money?
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>>537943227
slop

>>537943188
based
always sucks throwing away your vote on a third party so the dsa making dems actually democratic or even progressive again is our only hope
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>>537942335
This is my analysis as well.
It's essentially the giga-Blue-ifying, of the areas already shown picrel in post # 537934132

>make them Blue-er!1!1!!!!
Then using all the gigaBlue areas in Solidarity Union, the DSA can miraculously overthrow the United States federal government.
kek
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>>537931714
>Enable rabid commies
>Help, the rabid commies are attacking me!
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>>537943324
>aipac
Not just them.
Here's the current U.S. House leader of mamdani-ism, and pound-for-pound *THE* slimiest American politician today.
Only hitched his wagon to Massie's Epstein Transparency Act for political clout/visibility profiel
Greater faux populists even than Mamdani
Total sleazebag snake
represents the wealthiest Congressional (17th) district in America
>cupertino
>sunnyvale
>santa clara
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>>537943227
It's watermarked by the person who made it. Spics are dumber than niggers.
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>>537932728
Tyranny. It is tyranny. It is a known behavior of tyrants going back to before the incarnation of the christ. What does it tell you that the "pro-workers" party has been fucking them over for 70 years in favor of various flavors of darkie?
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NYC here.

the dsa are so fucking retarded. Literal incompetent little kids.

Everything they say is flat out wrong.
They say NYC deserves more of NYS spending because NYC subsidizes upstate.
Do you really think Niggers and porto ricans and muslims in the bronx and brooklyn and queens are really subsidizing Upstate?
In reality, NYC gets almost exactly from the state as what it puts in. And 65% of tax revenue in NYC is paid by white people btw.

The downstate suburban counties (Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Rockland) are the ones who put a lot more into the state than they get out, in reality. They get back only 75% of what give to the state.
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>>537943633
Track Zionist by Zei Squirrel (a tankie but at least principled and genuine) is better than Track AIPAC because it exposes the likes of AOC as well.
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>>537932818
Retrospect is a great thing that unfortunately you can't have until it's too late. I wish we still had Cuomo as governor or mayor. He actually knew what he was doing, even if I didn't agree with certain things on his platform
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>>537942196
>putting the slumlords in their place
By giving them cheap assets?
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>>537943250
It's amazing how the Republicans keep claiming to be the antiwar party.
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>>537942752
The tea party won and took over the republicans.
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>>537931714
Who gives a shit? Being a corporate Democrat makes you such a pants on head retard that you deserve to lose everything
>oh no, I tied my business to a party that hates business! How could this have happened!?
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>>537944062
do people really think these "slumlords" are making big money off niggers and portoricans? like pepole need to use their head for a second.
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>>537943892
The neolibs are so corrupt that even the DSA with their gibs can have a tighter budget
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>>537931714
I cant tell if DSA opponents are low key shilling FOR them or are actually trying but failing to shill against them.
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>>537944062
How so? Mamdani is increasing building permits and is starting actions against slumlords

The non DEI side of mamdani is what every politician should be
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>>537944223
DSA will have a much fatter budget. They have no idea what they're doing and most of them have no technocratic experience.
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>>537944222
they do yes, the government rates for those houses are absurd and they go right to the slumlord and they don't have to do shit to maintain the property because no nigger will ever call a cop or a lawyer when they have 40 visible felonies just in their living room alone
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Wow... I agree with Van Jones.
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>>537944070
Its just as ridiculous when Democrats pretend the same thing about themselves like Obama did in 2008.
The entire uniparty can go fuck itself.
>>537944094
The tea party were just another brand of deep cover neocons. Just another deception.
And of course the tea party was basically what walked so that the Trump populist deception could run.
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>>537944347
>"houses"
ok you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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>>537935041
Define "rich"
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>>537943633
Try to keep up.

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/6/18/headlines/rep_ro_khanna_is_first_us_lawmaker_to_sign_anti_aipac_peace_pledge
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>>537944094
then why did they enact the same neoconservative regime change wish list on behalf of Israel?
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>>537943892
>They say NYC deserves more of NYS spending because NYC subsidizes upstate

Exact same identical argument^ made by Democrats when shown the nationwide all-50-states U.S.A. map picrel in post # 537934132 ^^^^

>'w-well the blue supports the red, so...'
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>>537944740
Does not matter. Another deception. Frauds like AOC still gets Israel lobby bucks through other fronts and roundabout ways.
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>>537944448
Not everyone lives in a bughive bud, section 8 houses exist all over the country and many are single family homes unfortunately
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>>537944458
Any net worth over 5mill
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>>537931714
i dont care let them fight lol
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>>537931714
Yeah Jews are pretty fucked they only have a spare few options:
1) make a Moderate-Left Republican Wing with Southern Baptists and Mormons, all Jewish Dems convert to Republican and make some light concessions like lowering funding to Israel to say they did something. Also they need to denounce the Torah and say that these anti-Goyim laws aren't even real and they don't believe them.

2) Maybe Go full North Korea with Israel and move out of The West ask to help defend Israel and hopefully with the extra 10 million people or so they finally have the population to finish the job and kill everyone not Jewish in their lands, take back Golan and West Bank and move all the millions into Lebanon homes they stole, then build walls and shut off all communications and never be seen again

They need to also accept Chinese offers to join BRICS.

They can never survive in America as they stand if they don't make big changes and just give up on young people. Only chance is religious people.
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>>537944951
They didn't.
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>>537945023
you're clearly not from nyc and have no idea what you're talking about. thx and gday
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>>537944740
>2 pbtid Paid Shill
Khanna represents the wealthiest techEpsteinClassbroligarch district >>537943633
in the United States, that is totally pro-Palantir
He's performing a slick faux populist schtick and (You) are shilling it itt
Meaning (You) are just as slimy a snake as he
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>>537945375
jews fucked themselves over so fuck 'em
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>>537944969
whites pay over 80% of taxes in this country
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>>537931714
Fuck these faggots too.
Their funding is Jewish.
It’s the kikes trying to engineer a 3rd party.
It will go nowhere.
End fucking of.
You shill kike bitch xD
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>>537935348
Adam is the real deal though.
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>>537945684
You're the one spamming the board Migger. Ro must really piss you guys off therefore he's based.

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/6/18/headlines/rep_ro_khanna_is_first_us_lawmaker_to_sign_anti_aipac_peace_pledge
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>>537932728
Leftists don't want open borders. It's a successful conservative psyop that people that want worker rights and livable wages want imported labor.
Those people you see with rainbow flags and 'diversity is our strength' thing are not leftists, but social liberals.
Reminder that the ONLY presidential candidate to ever speak against open borders was Bernie Sanders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKDuBWcjyo
>but Trump
only cared about voters, he said it on the campaign trail
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>>537945375
No. You are being deceived. Again. Its all false hope by controlled opposition.
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>>537931714
>If you don't hate Israel
Pass.
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>>537946038
>Leftists don't want open borders
Liberals want it though. And they run both parties. Both parties are liberal. Because thats the political binary in the United States. Lolbert liberals (Jeffersonians) vs Federalist liberals (Hamiltonians).
Also Bernie Sanders says a lot. But he is a liberal zionist handled by Matt Duss and tied into the same Koch brothers he pretends to oppose at the end of the day.
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>>537946038
>Leftists don't want open borders.
They do now. Bernie was against open borders, but then even he turned against the idea.
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>>537931714
>moderate Democrat
Can anyone explain this concept? Like what does it actually mean? It seems like some kind of American tall-tale like Paul Bunyan or something
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>>537946038
The type of leftist you are talking about is purely theoretical. They don't actually exist in reality.
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>>537931714
>muh socialism
>muh closing the tax loopholes
>muh billionaires paying their fair share
>muh one-time wealth tax

I have never seen one cent from a democrat politician ever. Funny enough, the time I got a check from the government was under Trump.
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>>537938926
>David Hogg
Jesus Christ, I remember that faggot crisis actor. So, Soros is backing the DSA, which explains why, despite their posture against Israel, they actually remain as pro-kike as ever.
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>>537933531
Not true.

DSA has been around for ages, but got big in 2010 when Obama got clobbered by the Tea Party and basically refused to pivot hard left to counter them let alone go full fascist to crush them. This combined with the rise of Trump, led to the DSA and other such commie groups, basically aping their enemies the Tea Party in 2018 to finally gain party via the promise of going full fascist to criush Trump and his supporters if they ever got power.

Establishment Dems didn't care and considered them useful idiots until they started demanding the mass murder of Jews. Because even normies can see how the DSA and their ilk are pretty much Nazis 2.0 with that shit.
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>>537944740
>>537946005
>>537932456
>"""""migger""""'
= shitskin = thirdie = mudslime = turdie = brown coded = Netanyahu-payrollSpeak = state of Israel IP = (You), Menachem.
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>>537931714
>So far the Democrats hate the DSA
>Trump and Republicans hate the DSA
>then Israel and AIPAC hates the DSA

Sounds like 3 ringing endorsements to me. These guys must be based.
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>>537953348
>>537953612
DSA is a dead-end never-amount-to-Nothing post-2010 "organization" designed to sabotage the Left. In terms of internecine conflict they were instrumental in the 2016 Bernie backstab. It's just another BLM flash in the pan distraction.

As far as "everyone hating DSA" they're just the new Taliban. Another distraction in normie American electoral politics.
As explained above the DSA's "anti DNC," "we're taking over the Democratic Party" whateverTheFuck 'strategy' of big-city-hopping
>1st New York City
>next Chicago
>then Philadelphia
>on to Los Angeles
campaign will never work and won't overthrow either the U.S. federal government or the establishment D.C.swamp. It's just more kabuki divide-&-conquer until Trump finally dies/GOP throws him over the transom (that the U.S. Senate is doing Right Now July 2026) and the corporate Uniparty re-takes control of the D.C. swamp. If the global debt market holds out that long which is unlikely.

Electoral politics is never going to 'solve' or 'fix' the globalist Zionist control grid (see the Mamdani funding chart^^^^^^) despite all the anti-Israel sentiment among the 2026 American (left+right) electorate. Zionist globalist chokehold on the D.C. swamp establishment and the entirety of corporatist global 'politics' won't be eliminated by voter electoral means. Entire global financial system needs to implode for that degree and scope of change to occur. Which is also happening, right now. AI 'muh datacenturrrrrs' gigascam 2023—2026 three full years running the greatest fianancial hoax in the history of human civilization.
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>>537933219
Groypers influence over the GOP is not sufficient to cause any major damage to the establishment. They might cause small setbacks, like how much effort the GOP took to oust massie, but overall nothing will change as long boomers are alive. The left in the other hand have greater hold over the dems because they are a bigger block of voters. They forced harris to take in tim waltz as VP
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>>537953943
Damn. Better stop trying and accept the uniparty then
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>>537953959
groyperation, and DSA, Foreign Agents are pretty much equivalent Non-Entity distractions on either """""""""side""""""""" of the corporatist globalist Uniparty of American electoral politics. Each equally meaningless, both are astroturf psyops but in completely different methods & contexts.
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>>537931714
DSA CHEATS.
They're in cahoots with BLM, George Soros, that CommieCapitalist Neville what's-his-name, China.

Not only do all nations of the world need ID for all elections, all nations of the world must implement blockchain into ID and voting records.
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>>537954072
Blockchain is vulnerable to the 51% attack. The technology is mature enough to rely on.
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>>537954060
>accept
It's not a question of that. Uniparty is asking (You) to accept them. That's why they (all entire establishment in Coke vs. Pepsi D.C. swamp the whole GOP and RNC fully included) can't wait for Trump to fucking die or be thrown out.
That's why the RNC and GOP would be happy to lose the House and Senate in November of this year 2026. Then all the nevertrumpers (remember both JDVance and Rubio among many other current Cabinet were) can jump on the impeachment bandwagon and get rid of him. Back to Business As Usual.

It's all Uniparty. Everywhere. That's all any of it is. Globalist corporatist zionist Uniparty.
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>>537954147
*Not mature enough to rely on
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>>537954181
>That's why they can't wait for Trump to fucking die or be thrown out.
Kek, you think Trump is any different? He would have never been allowed to run, or would have been JFKed if he were any different.

In reality he bows down to the oligarchs like everyone does
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>>537954072
>DSA
>in cahoots with BLM, George Soros, that CommieCapitalist Neville what's-his-name, China
Precisely this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham

Also consult the Mamdani funding chart in post # 537941513
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>>537931714
They hate White dudes and people. Men in general as feminist extremists. This isn’t terribly surprising. Their israel position is incredibly based though. I wish they’d moderate their anti-White male hate.
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>>537954277
>5 pbtid Shill
Read post below (You) and # 537954072

>JFKed
They almost did Butler, Pennsylvania 07/13/2024
Crooks had connections to Iran who it was to be blamed on, 24 hours later Nikki Haley would have been swapped in and (instead of the June 2026 negotiated settlement) there'd be three hundred thousand U.S. troops occupying Iran right now.
We still know nothing about Thomas Crooks' psychological counselor parents, and FBI is covering up rest of the case.


checked
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Based I hope they nuke the whole left wing.
Quick burn more piles of money faggot retards
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>>537954396
Point stands. He does exactly what the wealthy and powerful oligarchs want him to. He's no different
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>>537938513
Why are you lying and bullshitting, kraut? This very article talks about how Mamdani is gonna crack down on hate crimes.
That always means cracking down on White men and men exclusively because they’re the only ones capable of those.
These people are no different, they harbor an even more extreme hatred of men and Whites.
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>>537953943
What they took NYC lmao
Just keep pretending dyed in the wool foreign communists aren't a problem.
Jusy let them keep dominating local DNC elections.
>but there will never be communism in America!!!!111!1111!!!
America has been a communist nation for over a century now....
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>>537954344
checked, read the thread. DSA's (and most of the modern 21st century extreme "Left") anti-Israel stance is for anti-colonialist show.
It has nothing at all to do with dismantling the globalist corporatist zionist control structure *in Washington D.C.* un-elected swamp, that is causing Palestine to be genocided.
You can cry 'pro-Palestine' all you want (that was the left stance in the 1970s-2000s) but post-9/11 none of that matters, look what happened to Rachel Corrie. Ben-Gvir, Netanyahu et al. don't give a fuck, they 're psychopaths. If you want to stop the genocide of Palestinians the only solution is removing the D.C. control center, along with the ~70 American fundamentalist dispensationalist 'holy Zion' Christians that are the global popular support base for 1948 Israel.
DSA is using the "anti-Israel" platitudinal stance as an antiquated '80s-era "muh human rights" Virtue signal advertising banner, none of them have any intention of dismantling Zionist control <--that is causing the genocide to begin with.
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>>537941513
> Anti-Israel sentiment though is gaining mainstream normie adoption.

Based. Yes, it’s one of the few things I agree with the DSA people on. They’re gonna keep winning if no one else gets a position on the issue.
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>>537954637
I'd take 1 billion frothing at the mouth zionist white Christians over some sandniggers thanks but no thanks.
Fuck Gaza
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>>537931714
oh no Dems are schisming 4 more years for Vance to deport niggers
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>>537943188
I would be tempted to do this as well but every policy these people otherwise support is gonna be against White men, goyim. As always.
I probably won’t vote for any of them for that reason, but I thank them for bringing the issue to the forefront.
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>>537931714
the dsa lost 150 of their elections across the country
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>>537954735
Why would deportations increase? Barely any are happening anyway.
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>>537954520
>6 pbtid
Fuck off Shill.
Idgaf about Trump he's always been a Billionaire and always will be. Fuck Trump. Fuck him.
He's made his own bed this year 2026, took a risk tarting a war and if the GOP loses the house might get himself thrown in jail. Idk what's going to occur. We'll all see.
Having said that, the past decade of U.S. electoral politics has seen Trump fully shake up the establishment globalist corporatist D.C. swamp, they all hate his fucking guts. His own party hates his fucking guts. RNC teamed up with DNC and Lincoln Project $20 million in spring 2016 to *prevent him becoming the presidential nominee*. After he btfo'd everyone in sight, then the D.C. swamp 'right wing' establishment went along with the program; but even the Uniparty was shocked on November 9th when he actually won. That *was not* supposed to have happened. In January 2017 Russiagate was officially launched.
The 2025-2026 Iran wars, Trump has now left Israel out to dry, his nevertrumper buddies like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are crying bloody murder as are Netanyahu and many other ziopsychopaths that want to keep invading Lebanon and bombing Iran. Again, we'll see if a lasting settlement emerges. There went the 'Israel first' coalition.

Fuck (You) Paid Shill. Fuck (You). ***FUCK (YOU).*** <-------
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>>537954748
There's onl a few selected "heavily blue" areas of America, where the DSA has any kind of 'stronghold' (NYC being one)
DSA only "works" or functions effectively in densely populated urban areas. The biggest U.S. cities. Those are the only places with the target demographic they are seeking and more importantly the *general mindset* of people congregated in these blue areas:
>'we're poor oppressed people with sky-high rents'
>unskilled
>"there are no jobs here" / not enough jobs to go around
>younger under-40
>predominantly nonwhite


The over-populated, densely populated urban centers. Population-weight centers (these big cities, inside of the states that they are located in, and their host counties also tend to sway the national electoral results of that entire states. Hence the reference to 'blue state')

Refer to picrel in post # 537934132
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>>537954832
>22pbtid. Proves nothing.
>20 million in spring 2016 to *prevent him becoming the presidential nominee*.
And then received the most money for any presidential candidate ever. Coming mostly from billionaire oligarchs. Then his inauguration had the most billionaire oligarchs ever. Then he had the most visits to the white house by billionaire oligarchs ever.
>That *was not* supposed to have happened.
Opinion
>In January 2017 Russiagate was officially launched.
The trump tower meeting was proved to have happened. He even tweeted that he was meeting to get dirt on Biden and that it was totally legal (which it is, it's just bad form to collude with our enemies for dirt)
>but even the Uniparty was shocked on November 9th when he actually won
Opinion. It could have been by design. You don't know what the uniparty oligarchs want and don't want. He's been very kind to the rich and powerful
>nevertrumper buddies like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro
they spent almost 10 years singing his praises you can't call them nevertrumpers

And I'll believe he's finally turned on israel when he stops endorsing sending them money and weapons. Till then I consider him to be doing Israel's bidding.

>Fuck (You) Paid Shill. Fuck (You). ***FUCK (YOU).*** <-------
Man you get butthurt easily. We had a simple disagreement over a politician and you tell me to go fuck myself
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>>537955276
>Anonymous (ID: 2WVz8I9Q) 7 pbtid Paid Shill
Fuck (You) and Get Killed.

>"muh disagreement"
Fuck (You) Paid Shill piece of subhuman filth. Fuck (You).
(You) are not just some anon "having a neat conversation about muh politics"
(You)'re a gaslighting Narrative-Steering paid shill. (You) *stink* through the screen. (You) piece of dung.

>muh powerful
Already addressed, Trump's been a billionaire since the 1980s (wow because of that he'd *never* have been around rich/powerful ppl amirite)

>nevertrumpers
Virtually all of Trump's 2026 Cabinet are Nevertrumpers
The entire past eleven years of American Washington D.C. establishment politics and corporate mass media has been Nothing but 24-7-365 citrus caesar bad. From "both" """""sides""""" everyone hates Trump and wants him fucking dead / gone.
Nov 9th 2016 election was a gigaShock to the establishment system, all prediction markets and analysts had Clinton winning by a massive 80+ percent landslide. Top echelons of the *unelected* deep state including Comey, Bolton, Brennan worked to sabotage not only the 2016 election itself but all during Trump's first term to get him tagged as a Foreign Agent but also impeached.

>muh money
Harris-Biden received far more. That's how U.S. post-1960s politics operates it's a money machine (only billionaires can even participate, and 2024 Harris installed without even a primary by billionaires)
Gaslighting LYING Faggot Paid Shill

>muh Israel first
Show us how happy Netanyahu is with the negotiated Iran settlement.

*********FUCK (You)********** Retconning Gaslighting Paid Shill. (You) FUCKING PIECE OF GASLIGHTING SUBHUMAN FILTH.
(You) are a piece of shit.

FUCK (You), you Disinformationalist LYING PIECE OF SUBHUMAN FILTH GASLIGHTING shit bag.


***********FUCK (You).************
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>>537955656
>Trump's been a billionaire since the 1980s
So he IS an oligarch. Not helping your case.
>Virtually all of Trump's 2026 Cabinet are Nevertrumpers
So much for "I hire the best people"
>everyone hates Trump and wants him fucking dead / gone.
His policies mostly bounce between 30-35% approval rating, and he keeps fucking over the poor. I bet he's hated.
>but also impeached.
Congress did that, but what does that even prove? Does it prove they were out to get clinton too?
>Harris-Biden received far more.
"total financial support raised for his 2024 White House bid reached $1.45 billion". Biden and harris did not hit this number.
>Show us how happy Netanyahu is
That's an argument. Words. Stopping arming and funding them, that's policy. And I would respect that. I do not respect mean tweets that say "do it or else". It's like, hurry up and get to the or else, you orange nigger.
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I said somewhere the other day, this is the same moment for the Dems as when Eric Cantor got primaried by the Tea Party. Everyone has fucking had it with corporate dems who don't stand for anything and are basically just managers approved by HR, who will always default to protecting the status quo and treat any kind of change as a problem to be managed rather than a goal to be pursued or an opportunity to be exploited.
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>>537955656
Also, we're off topic. This is DSA thread, not a trump thread
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>>537955960
>Anonymous (ID: 2WVz8I9Q) 8 pbtid Paid Shill
>muh orange nigger
(You)'re a malding dilating Paid Shill
>muh money
Harris-Biden who fucked-over-the-poor spent four times as much as GOP-Trump in the past three election cycles.
>muh argument
(You) are a Paid Shill gaslighting Liar and Netanyahu is extremely displeased that Trump stopped the war he (BN) started, wants it continued. He'll be seething harder as the timeline is reached and so will all Israel-firsters
>muh policy
Already addressed in (no, electoral politics not ever has a chance of "solving" that massive topic) >>537954637
>muh oligarch
(You) seem concerned, I never typed-uploaded that word. Ross Perot was an 'oligarch'
>nevertrumpers
I accept your concession
>muh ratings
(populace opinion polls are not what's being discussed here) Entire D.C swamp establishment for past eleven years wants trump Beamed Up Scotty tf out of here, They ALL Want Him Gone. His own party has lobbied $$$$$$$$ (as prior explained the '16 primary) against him, they mainly hate 'him' because of his stirring up populism among Americans. Doesn't particularly matter if it's 'left' or 'right' flavor populism, what the D.C. globalist corporatist swamp can't condone is giving American populace the mere spirit of standing up for Their Own Interests (which is what the post-2015 'maga' movement has done)<--That is what the D.C. establishment ALL OF THEM Republicans included fucking hates about Trump. They can't allow that mass mentality to take hold or continue. Witness (already mentioned) the U.S. Senate stonewalling of Trump. The minute they get rid of Trump he'll be forgotten, and that'll happen fast if GOP loses big this November.


*FUCK (You)* Paid Shill shit bag.
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>>537956047
be less obvious
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>>537956397
>Netanyahu is extremely displeased that Trump stopped the war
We just struck iran again today. The war is clearly not stopped.
>They ALL Want Him Gone.
He has no one but himself to blame for doing things the people hate. His shitty policies are going to have him go down as the most hated president in history. Starting the iran war had a 23% approval rating.
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>>537956009
Lol all dems are cringe, gaybro
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>>537956452
About what? I'm a DSA supporter.

Fuck the rich people that rule us.
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>>537946038
no, tranny, this is you. this is what you believe. you fucking faggot leftists always try and rebrand once your failed policies are exposed to everyone. liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, leftists, same shit
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>>537956874
>Anonymous (ID: 2WVz8I9Q) 11 pbtid Paid Shill
>I'm a DSA supporter
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>>537956930
>27 pbtid
Yes yes yes. Wanting a higher minimum wage and workers rights makes you a literal commie and a paid shill.

All the legitimate posters on this board suck trumps dick. The RNC definitely has no paid shills here. They would never do such a thing. But people wanting a better work life? All paid shills
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>>537956920
>this is what you believe
Let me tell you what you believe
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>>537957127
Every job you have will suck
You get paid more you spend more because you are a self interested retard like all living beings.
The people devour and our nations are flooded with the locusts.
We call them people but of dogs could talk would we let them drive?
Word cannot describe on a certain level how much I hate you.
Hitler killed far more communists than jews or whatever holohoax bullshit.
I hope Trump gasses you in a Walmart parkinglot.
KYS nigger
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>>537957222
ESL like a motherfucker
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>>537957127
(You), shill puppet, are sucking this oligarch's :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham
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>>537957288
Yes I am drunk
Fite me leftgroid
I despise you
Meet me in the Costco parkinglot
TONIGHT faggot
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>>537957335
Meh
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>>537956874
>The nepobaby theaterkid DSA class of the Democrats will totally own the rich
Best they'll do is funnel your tax dollars to their blue haired consultants to put on more gay performances.
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>>537931714
Do that and you shove the JQ pill down millions of zoomer mutt negroid throats. Imagine all the hatred you stoked for whitey now turned on the jew. That's where you're already at, shlomo. You lost the only people who cared about stopping the "nazi antisemites"
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>>537957482
>cope
De Nile is not just a river in egypt
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>>537957513
Better than funneling it to more rich people and corporations.
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>you just hate jews because they are superior
>people step up to prove they are superior to jews
>ACK
lol
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>>537957596
Sorry, I just don't see it. I didn't shill for him, nor suck him off. Never heard of him.
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>>537931877
>takes office
>does nothing about jew hate
He lied anon.
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>>537957167
i know your beliefs better than you do, i was a libshit kid at one point too, just like you
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>>537957957
Have you ever considered using this power of yours to solve crimes?
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>>537957757
>Never heard of him
Which shows how ignorant and clueless (You) actually are—not just about the topics itt but the world overall, how systems of power and coercion operate-function in reality.

Ideology and adherence to it compartmentalizes your thinking
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>>537958037
you reek of reddit
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>>537958189
That response was way more useful than explaining it
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>>537958211
checked, yes he's highly pledditor-flavored
Tailor made for DSA's brigade
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>>537958211
You reek of /mlp/
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>>537958266
checked, everything is 'more useful' to slavish idolator drones like (You) than actual reading comprehension
(of what I and others have posted itt for offhand example)
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>>537932456
>mush mouthed hack
I also listened to Opie and Anthony
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>my enemies are destroying themselves
oh no, what ever shall I do?
*sips whiskey*
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>>537958399
It's like watching MAGA take over the GOP as a Democrat, and thinking it's a good thing. "LoL the Republicans are eating each other. This won't affect the Democrat party at all'
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>>537931714
democrats are democrats. They are all the same.
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>>537931714
>the DSA can beat moderates because [something irrelevant to policy choices]
These guys learned absolutely nothing from the rise of MAGA. If you think DSA's policy choices are bad, fucking make a case against one of them instead of spouting platitudes and doing some social engineering. DSA has a real platform: tax the rich and use those taxes to reinvest in American infrastructure and social programs. People are no longer receptive to "if you don't hate our precious rich people, vote for our stooges!" arguments. They no longer have to be.

He's posting this drivel on Twitter because, for better and for worse, institutional capitalism no longer has a chokehold (through television) on mass discourse. Just as the far right was able to circumvent traditional media, so is the far left. The far right just had a head start because America is much closer to them than to leftists.

Make your fucking case, television-man. People no longer have to hit dead ends at these kinds of carefully curated nothing-statements. We can dig deeply into the policy and talk to each other without your approval.
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>>537958504
>MAGA take over the GOP
it hasn't and didn't. U.S. Senate right now is hobbling Trump's 2nd-term agenda. Most of the GOP wants Trump gone asap. If ? the Republicans lose House, Senate (or both) in November many of those GOP Representatives and Senators will be gleefully happy to participate in Trump's (and his entire family's) imprisonment.
Republican Party doesn't give a Flying God Damned Fuck about Trump or maga. They dgaf, Do Not Care.
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>>537958930
>will be gleefully happy to participate in Trump's (and his entire family's) imprisonment.
He did run on locking up his political opponents. I'm not surprised it boomeranged on him.
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>>537958930
>U.S. Senate right now is hobbling Trump's 2nd-term agenda
After a year and a half of obsequious line-toeing. To give you some perspective, Susan Collins was recently attacked on Fox for insufficiently voting with the president. Her record? NINETY-FOUR PERCENT of the time, she voted to support Trump's agenda.

If republican congressmen are now "hobbling the president's agenda," it's because the agenda has been a total fucking failure. They're terrified of losing elections precisely because they didn't hobble his agenda. Now, they're putting up token resistance so they don't get caught holding the bag.
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>>537946038
Well maybe we'd support the left sooner if they stopped entertaining these freaks and let them dictate the policy of their party.
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>>537931714
That doesn’t sound anything like Van Jones from 24 years ago. What a fucking sell out.
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>>537959038
>2 pbtid late-to-topic DSA Paid Shill <---
Only thing that matters rn in United States national politics is whether the current sitting president—Donald Trump, now in his second term—gets his agenda passed through the Congress. Right now the United States Senate is obstructing the agenda. The opposition to the Save Act is not just a few 'out of step' individual Reps or Senators, there is an establishment in the D.C. swamp that won't put up with this agenda.

>muh bag
Re-read the post (You) replied to (and read the thread). RE: 'the elections' specifically November 2026, the reason *populace poll numbers* for the new administration's agenda are down has nothing to do with what's going on in D.C. over the bill: ***IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY BEING IN THE SHITTER AND A BRAND NEW WAR INITIATED FEB 2026*** that's the Fucking God Damned Reason the Republicans might lose the November election (not what the buttfucking congresscritters are doing in the Uniparty larp of the D.C. swamp).
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES NOT GIVE A MICROSCOPIC **FUCK** ABOUT TRUMP and want him Gone. If that means putting him in prison for life or he's dead that'd be fine with them. D.C. swamp is finished with Trump and Trump-ism. In November 2026, four months from right now, GOP may ? possibly lose both houses of Congress and many of these "oh yass masser prazident" shills—half of Trump's *own current Cabinet* are fucking Nevertrumpers including JD Vance and Rubio—will instantaneously chameleon their colors and call for his head on a pike. They'd be fucking happy to in the interest of his demise.

(You) Faggot paid shills are fucking *Brainless*.
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>>537959498
>including JD Vance and Rubio
Why does he surround himself with.people he can't trust? Seems like a failing on his part
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>>537959858
Spend the rest of (You)r brief pathetic life comprehending who Neville Roy Singham, is
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>>537959498
How do you account for the fact that most GOP congressmen have above a 95% voting record in line with the president's priorities until very recently? Can you address that simple point, please?

I agree that republicans are now putting up some token resistance. They're not passing his voting bill. But up until that point, they have been at or near 100% compliance with his agenda. You seem to want to collapse a year and a half of near total compliance into this one current act of moderate (I'd call it token -- they're not actually holding him to e.g. the war powers resolution they just passed) rebellion. Why is that?
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>>537934132
The hope is that the people who thought they were Anti-American bond with their fellows on the other side over their mutual goals and learn that there is something to like about the other guy, after all. That is how you build national unity, not slapping red, blue, and starred decorations from china over a decaying building.
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>>537931714
the funniest thing about all the people who signed this? just look at their donors. lol, lmao
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>>537934132
>Nothing about NYC is going to 'improve' and time will show and verify that. It's all entirely hot air and hype.
The rotten core of both republican and democrat establishments are certainly trying to make it turn out that way. It's the old conservative standby: obstruct the progressive agenda at every turn and then use the results of your obstruction as if it were the natural order of things -- as if you didn't just expend massive resources in the obstruction.

It's cheaper for capital and its stooges to obstruct than it is to comply. It's not that compliance couldn't provide better outcomes for more people -- it absolutely could -- but that obstruction is cheaper. It's just a shame, honestly.
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>>537931714
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>>537954072
>>537931714
imagine people screeching about israel, then screeching at leftists, the only people who would actually stop placating israel
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>>537961026
>look at their donors
WHO?
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>>537961070
(You)'re a brainlet, follow "politics" at MSNBC tier. There's no 'left' or 'right' (particularly at national level the D.C.swamp): it's a globalist corporatist Uniparty.
Have you been to a major United States city? Do you reside in one. They're shitholes, New York City being perhaps the largest most decrepit one. All are massively in Debt (applies also to blue state governments that host them). Graphic pic here >>537942571

The big bill rn, that will accomplish this administration's agenda is Save Act. That is the political—in a 'football game' analogy—touchdown needs to be achieved, and the United States Senate, which is strong GOP majority led by the Republican majority leader, is explicitly obstructing that huge piece of legislation. They had a shouting match with the president on Capitol Hill thisweek; this is the top elite body of the Legislative branch of American government, that supposedly is the same 'team' as the executive branch/president's Party.
This goes far, far beyond mere 'capital': the Save Act is about immigration (some new U.S. Supreme Court rulings handed down) which is perhaps the single most important and crucial issue Trump has held since 2015, and obviously of grave concern to nations of Europe right now as well.
The 'obstruction' that's occurring right now in the U.S. Senate is simply : a waiting out. The United States Senate (doesn't really care about the outcome of the Nov 2026 election, and) is openly treating Trump as a lame duck. They *do not care* what happens to him but moreover his agenda — THEY ARE WAITING, HOLDING OUT FOR HIS REPLACEMENT. And they don't give a flying fuck who that is or how that replacement gets there, only that Trump himself and moreover Trump-ism <--aka the American populism he inspired, regular Americans standing up for their own interests rather than no-borders corporatist globalists that have ruled since '80s. That is what they actually hate. (not Trump himself)
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>>537961642
Okay, that's nice, but you're kind of changing the subject, aren't you? You claimed (loosely) that the GOP has obstructed Trump from the beginning because they are currently not passing his "no brown people allowed" voting bill. I asked you how you square that with the fact that most GOP congressmen have voted with Trump nearly 100% of the time until recently.

You chose not to answer that, and instead tried to change the subject. That's fine, I'm just not gonna follow you there unless you want to do me the solid of responding to my points as I'm responding to yours.
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>>537961778
>loosely / "changing the subject"
>muh gop congressmen
voted "with" him on *what*? Care to define- list that?
Trump's main agenda is the Save Act. Whatever the fuck (You) have your panties in a wad about is not even close to that. (You)'re a fucking disingenuous gaslighting brainlet Faggot.
Immigration (along with voting regulation, a tangentially connected one) is Trump's main political issue period end.
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Here's how much money pro-israel groups gave to the congressmen who signed it:
Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-NY): $533k
Rep. Adam Gray (D-CA): $30k
Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) $2m
Rep. Susie Lee (D-NV) $734k
Rep. Don Davis (D-NC) $4m
Rep. Vicente Gonzalez Jr. (D-TX) $300k
Rep. Laura Gillen (D-NY) AIPAC $300k
Rep. Janelle Bynum (D-OR) $1.5m
Rep. Kristin McDonald Rivet (D-MI) $300k
Rep. Maggie Goodlander (D-NH) $200k
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>>537961998
oy vey
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>>537961889
>voted "with" him on *what*?
On his legislative priorities, e.g. the BBB. We can also include voting against bills designed to curtail his powers when brought to the floor. Trump's agenda RIGHT NOW is the SAVE act. Obviously, his agenda has been different at many points in the administration. When he implemented universal (and unlawful) tariffs, Congress could have, you know... enforced it. When he put his name on the Kennedy Center unilaterally, they could have... enforced it. Many issues, big and small -- from disruptive tariffs to border security to names on buildings -- Republicans have allowed Trump to use executive power to do it unilaterally. He can only DO those things unilaterally if they LET him. They have the power of the purse, right?

That's what I mean when I say that the GOP has overall voted in remarkable lockstep with Trump over the last year and a half.

You're right that they may be starting to rebel. They really don't like the SAVE act. But the problem with having an awareness of things beyond a two-week span is that... you kind of have to say things which reflect reality.
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>>537960601
Only if you spend the rest of your time researching greg mulduna
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>>537938591
>let me tell you what young Republicans think
top kek
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>>537962448
>tariffs border security BBB kennedy center
(You)'re totally wrong about tariffs (not "debating" that irrelevant long-ago-debunked bullshit here): 100 percent lawful for U.S. executive branch. Kennedy Center : irrelevant as reflecting pool. Border funding disputes: part of the bigger omnibus bills, that globalist uniparty GOP wants to keep its gravy train rolling. None has anything to do w/ Save Act of immigration (and voting).

>power of the purse
U.S. Congress votes as a Uniparty to increase fedgov spending year-after-year-after-year for the past three decades irrespective of political party or the presidential adminstration in power (refer to graphic # 537961642 and picrel) None of that has anything to do with who is president or D-v.-R in Congress: the Congress chooses and plans to do this as a Uniparty. Has nothing to do with who the president is, "what party controls" it's Uniparty and Congress itself that chooses to lockstep-together 1) fiscal policy (Congress each-year-escalating the $2+ trillion federal budget) in tandem with 2) monetary policy (Treasury+central bank that escalates the credit card limit each time Congress rubberstamps a new spending bill). Side note, Trump in March 2025 right after DOGE and before the Iran insanity in May, made a statement in Oval Office about wanting to cut defense spending by half, discuss w/ Xi, Putin about doing just that.

>"starting to rebel"
? wtf I never said that. Congressional Republicans *never* have supported Trump in an entire decade of two separate terms, they hate his fucking guts.

>last year and a half
Name one thing in 2017—2020 that the U.S. Congress Republicans "voted for" of Trump in that first term. Most of it was spent impeaching him, that many Republicans gladly went along with BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE RID OF HIM THEY WANT HIM GONE. (You)'re being a wilfully ignorant retard or gaslighting.
U.S. Congress *never* supports Trump or his presidential agenda.
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>>537961642
>Populism
Oh yeah, the billionaire oligarch is really concerned about returning the power to the people. And not at all concerned about consolidating the power for the elites. Makes perfect sense.
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>Anonymous (ID: 2WVz8I9Q) 25 pbtid DSA Shill 'makes perfect sense'
As does Neville Roy Singham amirite
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>>537963057
>Tarrifs: 100 percent lawful for U.S. executive branch.
Struck down by the courts. Not legal.

And the save act is about voter disenfranchisement not about election security. The elites can control you better the fewer people vote

>Side note, Trump in March 2025 right after DOGE and before the Iran insanity in May, made a statement in Oval Office about wanting to cut defense spending by half, discuss w/ Xi, Putin about doing just that.
Then he floated the idea of doubling defense spending to 1.5 trillion. I don't believe for a second he'd ever slash it
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>>537963294
>40 pbtid shill
Research greg mulduna
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>>537963341
>Struck down by the courts
Wrong. They're legal and the U.S. Supreme Court went globalist (just like they did in Citizens United) on that ruling. Tariffs are the way all international business was conducted between nations for centuries; post-1944 Bretton Woods globalists (that run the D.C. swamp)
(You)'re an NPC brainlet go back to plebbit
Also fwiw the tariffs aren't intended to remain in place forever as an edict; they're *incentives* to get nations to trade equitably w/ each other

>muh voting
Save Act is about making sense of what America's electoral process(es) nationwide have become over the past half century: a shitshow
Elites *are already* controlling us with open borders as George Herbert Walker Bush and his understudy and co-smuggler of Iran-Contra in Mena, Arkansas 1980s BIll Clinton during their decades in office 1981—1999, intended
Hint: Reagan was never president of the United States, it was GHWB all during 1981—1992
Hint #2: less than two months after the '81 inauguration was the D.C. assassination attempt by an individual a few nights prior had dinner with a Bush family member. Globalists
Disenfranchisement is allowing people who are not citizens of our own country to vote. There can't be a federally-controlled national voting method according to U.S. Constitution but there can be federal guidelines set down so that each of 50 separate states doesn't have a hodgepodge smorgasborg of vote-how-you-want anything-goes methods of casting a ballot in national elections. That we need.
(Democrats nationally hate this because it further erodes their fast-shrinking illegal voter base)

>don't believe
I don't believe the April-May 2025 and Feb-June 2026 Iran insanity either it was a marked change of direction from Trump's own explicit statements just days earlier; but here we are.
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>>537963378
>27 pbtid DSA Shill snarkposts
Back to pleddit (You) lost tranny
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>>537963700
>post-1944 Bretton Woods globalists (that run the D.C. swamp)
don't like them because they're pro-open borders and 'free trade agreements' — Thanks for NAFTA, Bill Clinton!
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>>537963700
>Wrong. They're legal and the U.S. Supreme Court went globalist
That power belongs to Congress. Blanket tariffs on everyone on earth cannot be considered an emergency, that is an abuse of power. Also, if he threatened to tariff someone for something he doesn't like, it's CLEARLY not an emergency, just a petty orange man being petty.

>Elites *are already* controlling us
I know. Trumps one of them

>(Democrats nationally hate this because it further erodes their fast-shrinking illegal voter base)
Illegals can't vote, so it's a moot point
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>>537963848
>they're pro-open borders
Open borders is a red herring. It has no concrete definition and you fags call whatever you want open borders
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>>537963700
The biggest issue with the tariffs is that any socialist nation uses tariffs to limit trade with other nations and incentivize manufacturing within the nation that they're trying to protect (their own).
This requires a restructuring of the economy around manufacturing being based in the nation instead of being outsourced.
Much of this restructuring didn't happen or got cancelled because Trump doesn't think that far, and the GOP doesn't believe in putting money back into America unless it's for weapons that can be sent to Israel.

Now that that has happened, even a socialist who comes in and wants to use Tariffs for their intended purpose is going to run into the wall that ORANGE MAN DID THAT
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>bulldoze the vatican and inner city of london

>lol
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>>537963341
Oy vey think of the disenfranchisement.
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the irony is, USA is wealthy enough to nationalize oil and the s&p and usher in their ideology, thats why on paper, its a concern. But its all fake and gay, USA does this every so often to push everyone back to the middle so they can hand off the presidency to a dem in 2028. Handshake agreements on presidency happen day after inauguration day. Fettermen type dem is being prepped
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>>537963057
>(You)'re totally wrong about tariffs (not "debating" that irrelevant long-ago-debunked bullshit here)
How is it debunked? SCOTUS literally struck them down. An historically executive-friendly court looked at his first round of tariffs and said precisely and specifically that they were unlawful. That means, by extension, that Congress rightfully not only COULD have but SHOULD have struck them down. It's very, very strange that you think this is debunked because it is the literal and precise opposite of debunked.

I see that you wrote some more stuff on different topics, but I'm not done with this topic yet because you keep saying things which are demonstrably wrong.

IF these tariffs were illegal and IF Congress not only didn't strike them down but VOTED AGAINST striking them down DESPITE the fact that they were illegal... that says something about how the congressional GOP was operating over the first year and a half of his presidency, right? That strongly suggests that, contrary to your claim of Trump being consistently obstructed, congress actually did something close to the exact opposite: they VOTED TO ALLOW HIM TO CONTINUE BREAKING THE LAW.

Trump was not a "persecuted anti-uniparty hero," or however you see him. He was the head of a massive, three-branch dominance of the US government. If he is failing -- and you seem to be trying to imply that he is -- it is not because the GOP was insufficiently loyal. In fact, it is more likely to be that the GOP was fucking TOO loyal.

Again, average of >95% votes along the President's priorities since he took office this time around. Susan Collins' 94% record is such an anomaly that Fox News called her out on it as a gotcha.

Can you stay on topic, please?
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>>537966442
It's all fun and games till it's your name getting stricken from the voter rolls.

>But disenfranchisement laws can't be used against me. They're only used by the right against the left
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>>537966756
its not really the problem you think it is, its a perfectly tenable position to believe only property owners should vote. Regardless, the only loophole to losing right to vote is prison since youre technically a slave and have no rights to vote. So i hate to tell you, but your ideology would be if you live there, you are able to participate in governance, which is the crux of illegal participation, its not the ability to get an ID for niggers. There is a philosophical wedge on who participates. Is it all who dwell, or the tax payers? Be careful blind fully supporting no disenfranchisement, you will not get the result you think. You have more people in jail and potential disenfranchisement then tax payers, so by your logic, the best political path is appealing to the undesirables.
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>>537931714
>"-but you don't hate rich people, cops, free enterprise, the West, Israel and the United Sates of America - I'm talking to you!"
yep these midterms are going to be so over they'll have an integer error and loop back to so back
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>>537968876
>the only loophole to losing right to vote is prison
They can throw your vote out for claiming the "signature doesn't match" with no oversight. Not even a second opinion. One single guy doesn't like your vote so he claims your signature doesn't match, and it's gone. They don't even tell you they threw your vote out (depending what state you're in)
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>>537966680
>USA is wealthy enough to nationalize oil and the s&p and usher in their ideology,
So if we just steal everybody's business we can finally have enough free shit to open the borders and let everybody in to have unlimited free shit?
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>>537931714
>>537931877
Bro has a 12B$ hole to fill, he msde it a national problem to avoid it.
Dems will elect him president and he will sell you all to each other country, and I will laugh my ass off as he does that.
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>>537969763
He can't be president, he wasn't born in america
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>>537969664
im not sure you understand what im saying, if we nationalized LNG and Oil ontop of the s&p, yes, you quite literally could. Youre talking figures each 300M people would have real dividends, irony is youd have to manage it the same way. but the math is there friend, its why its demonized, dont you dare defend american might and taxes for privately controlled oil either nigger

>>537969582
conjecture, theres very little reason to believe your vote isnt counted especially when you can verify it. You should be concerned about the new way of districting as we wont be able to change any political realities 10 years at a time now..
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>>537969881
if birthright citizenship is ended, no american will be mad if we change it to allowing naturalization. Dems cant have it both ways though. But on paper, if theres one antiquated presidential rule, being born in the USA doesnt ensure anything anymore. A naturalized citizen i dont think should be able to, but if they ended birthright, id be ok with it
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>>537969909
>im not sure you understand what im saying
I get it. You feel that you're entitled to something you didn't earn and that there is now and always be an infinite supply of other people's stuff to steal to redistribute to you and every mud-duck that can run jump or swim over the border with their begging bowl.
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>>537970289
no, no i dont want it, but i do think on paper its a concern for governance, like if it gained traction type of thing. But it wouldnt require removing any personal ownership, im talking owning the stock returns and manipulating production of fuel to absolutely fucking destroy pricing. But yeah its antithetical to what i believe in far as personal obligations to society. I dont want the government to do it but i do believe the math is behind it



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