Obamacare is finally in its death throes. Like him or not, Trump is delivering on his promise to repeal the program. Now he has the opportunity to replace it with his own plan.
>>537936416There is no plan retard
>>537936744Cut them some slackRepublicans have only had 16 years to come up with a replacement plan, who can do anything in that amount of time?
>>537936744There are a variety of plans proposed by think-tanks and conservative groups. Trump just has to pick one of them and promote it and have the Republican congress pass it quickly.
>>537936903The problem is the ACA basically WAS the Republican plan.Dems took the public option more popular with libs off the table right from the start to "reach across the isle", not that Obama was ever really some super lib.The framework of the plan, including the most unpopular part the individual mandate, was based on the plan by the conservative heritage foundation for how you would even begin to try to reign in spiralling healthcare costs in a "Republican/business-friendly" manner.All they have left is token shit like cross-state plan options that don't really help much.Trump is just still obsessed with and seething over Obama and trying to undo anything he's vaguely connected to, as we saw with recent pool silliness.
>>537937189They'll rehash the exact same shit, strap Trump care on it and pretend they did shit. He's only doing this because he hates Obama cuz he racist
He only said he would repeal it. Project 2025 promises kept.
>>537936416i haven't had health insurance for a few years, breaking a law with no penaltyamerican life is just a tissue of lies and legal fictions
>Chop government service at the knees>Say it doesn't workRepublicans have gotten away with this for more than 4 decades
>>537938318Nah, it's not racism as much as petty jealousy. He wants people to say his name as often as Obama got his Obamacare
>>537936416>replace it with his own plan.He never had a plan, just concepts of a plan.>>537938136>Trump is just still obsessed with and seething over Obama and trying to undo anything he's vaguely connected toGoing to be funny when the next Dem president does the same to Trump.
>>537937189Nigger obongo care was romney care in the 90'sThey're not passing anything that will be different; the entire scam was to enrich a few kikes and if they make any radical changes it'l lead to mass layoffs which the admnistration with its head underwater doesn't want.This shit will be ignored until the GOP sees the polling numbers and says "oh god oh fuck give the dnc what they want"
>>537936416>Trump repeals thing Obama did just because he can attempt the same thing himself but ends up screws it up massively and blame others for his mistakesWait, was this thread about Obamacare or the reflecting pool??
>>537936416>>537936744>>537936903>>537937189Concept of a plan*
>>537938574The whole healthcare industry is that way. A tangled knot that will result in mass job loss if any attempt to fix it is undertaken.
>>537936416> Now he has the opportunity to replace it with his own plan.Kek
>>537936416How is this a good thing?
>>537938726Intentionally designed that way to ensure that no one ever does anything.Instant negative approval rating if you lay off millions of Americans and political suicide for your party. Just let the (((middlemen))) be parasites and balloon the cost of care to untenable levels.
>>537938902owning the libs by indiscriminately making everyone's lives much worse. It's worse for MAGA-cucks through cause can't even complain about it
>>537938525>Going to be funny when the next Dem president does the same to Trump.Even moreso because he's so obsessed with leaving his own mark in history but in the most lazy and performative ways possible.His name is already being removed from the kennedy center.All the tacky gold leaf shit will be scraped off.The pool shit is only relevant because he made such a big deal of it and will be a forgotten footnote.So many policies can be undone just with presidential authority because that's how they were enacted because trump was to lazy to go through corralling Republicans for a vote even with how much influence he has over them.So many positions held by perpetual temporary placements will be replaced since he couldn't be bothered to vet candidates not too embarrassing, in one way or another, to make it safely through a vote.>>537938902Op is probably baiting.The whole "Like him or not" bit is a tell.
>>537938978There are some implicit healthcare cost reductions coming next year under the Big Beautiful Bill, with the trillion dollars in Medicaid cuts. A lot of hospitals and clinics will have to readjust their budgeting or shut down. And overall, that's a good thing; it reduces bloat.
>>537938574Romney is a RINO crony corporatist. Of course he picked the plan that made insurance companies wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
Obama played it safe, middle-of-the-roader, corporatist, blandness personified - Obamacare didn't kill the insurance industry and give us single payer, it made it law you had to have insurance and fined you if you didn't - complete sellout
>>537938525If a Republican wins in 2028, even if they're a single term president, Trump probably won't live to see Democrats undo his work. He probably will make it to the end of his term but his health is going to catch up with him. When a person is in their 80s, it only takes on health event to get into a death spiral.
>>537938978Insurance industry jobs could be transitioned into healthcare/fraud management for a largely single payer system and there would likely still be private health insurance for those that want and can afford better than baseline.Ideally that's the benefit of having both.Public healthcare can set a baseline of coverage to make sure people can get SOME care. They may not get an instant airlift and jumping to the front of the transplant line like some triple black diamond private insurance plan but they won't have to refuse an ambulance or treatment for fear it will bankrupt their whole family. Likewise private insurance can provide and more freely try out more dynamic and new options and ultimately funnel funds to hospitals through clients willing to pay a premium for premium service.
>>537938978Probably intentional yeah. Even if the people making it so weren't in the know of it. I mean how many times in your life have you heard of a bill being co-wrote by some lobbying group after all?But it's not even just the middlemen. The level of administrative bloat in hospitals is beyond unreal. And yet despite it all they still develop a reputation for hiring the worst in IT.
>>537939418No way for me to prove it but I think the long term plan for ACA was to get Medicaid expansion in all the states and then incrementally have that take over more and more of the healthcare industry until it controlled everything. They didn't count on so many states resisting the temptation of free federal money the first years of Medicaid expansion, nor that the Republicans would do an half-ass repeal in the form of doing away with the penalty for not having insurance.
>>537939418>Obama played it safe, middle-of-the-roader, corporatist, blandness personifiedAnd they still demonized him as a radical leftist who created modern racism and divisiveness.
>>537939654There are lots of people who would support more public services, including healthcare, if we stopped importing the third world in such huge numbers.
>>537939744Eh, that was probably the intention, or at least hope, for some.Imo though just as many saw it as just a quick temporary fix to call it good and kick the can down the road.
Republican Healthcare Plan: >die quickly
>>537936416He doesn't even have a concept of a plan. It's been 8 years and nothing. The ironic thing is that this will hit red states the hardest. They don't even know it.
>>537939830>I'd rather we go without than suffer the idea someone "undeserving" is also hypothetically benefiting!There will always be a scapegoat for the elites to distract you with.More to the point it's a false choice because we can, and must as a society, address multiple issues at the same time.
>>537940016Death is better than being in a home
>>537939418>>537939771>hands up, don't shooti can just smell the sòy emanating from these posts
>>537936416Bitch, Trump has been had the opportunity to fix healthcare "like so quick" for 6 years of presidency and majority house and senate. Trump doesn't care about your healthcare.
>>537940148>Just dieThe Republican motto.
The Republican healthcare plan has never changed. This clip is from 2009. If you want healthcare you vote for Democrats. Tens of millions of of Trump voting retards have healthcare because of Obama.https://www.c-span.org/clip/us-house-of-representatives/user-clip-republicans-health-care-plan-die-quickly/4743520
>>537940128Only "line must go up" morons believe in infinite resources. Congratulations, you're a right winger.
perpetual trust the plan fell for it again cycle
>>537940235Not an argument.Also I eat whole cuts of meat, fresh and frozen veggies, and dried legumes(not onions beans) that we cook from scratch.
>>537936744>There is no plan retardthere is a concept of a planthe real plan is to privatise it all and let wall street make money off your illness and death while denying you life saving treatments while trump takes a cut from big pharma, the mafia don always gets a piece of whatever the action is
>>537936416>Now he has the opportunity to replace it with his own plan.What plan is that, exactly?
>bulldoze the vatican and inner city of london>lol
>>537940290Yes, literally. When the Iowa Republican senator who was up for reelection this November was being confronted by constituents about the Big Beautiful Bill last year and how people were going to die with how much it slashed health care, her reply was "Well, we're all gonna die someday!" That was the end of her political career. She made one last sarcastic non-apology video for that comment while standing in a graveyard before giving up. And now Iowa is up for grabs to get flipped, it's almost surely going to flip the governorship. That's why Republicans there are already working hard to strip the office's powers before the election like they did in North Carolina.
>>537936416The subsidies were supposed to have been temporary assistance during the pandemic. Pandemic over, temporary subsidy should end. Why is that never mentioned?
>>537938136>ACA basicallyRomneycare.
>>537940321>picrelAlan whatsHisname. Blast from pastWhat ever happened to him?(besides Ron Paul, around that same time the only U.S. House Representative to question the Federal Reserve)
>>537940614Are you a vpn foreigner or underageb& or just trolling?The ACA and "temporary" federal funding of Medicare/Medicaid expansion predated the pandemic being a thing.
>>537936416They should just do what Japan does and be done with it. But add extra surcharges for being a fat fuck, a smoker, a druggie, or an alcoholic. That way we can get those people in the grave sooner.
>>537939616Trump will live to 100.25 just to spite Carter as the oldest former president
>>537939696>how many times in your life have you heard of a bill being co-wrote by some lobbying groupMy impression is the vast majority of bills are written by lobbyists and names are just low-profile cause most bills are low-profile >t. used to work in DC
>>537940894Would be funny just for him to hang around as an albatross around Republicans' necks but the dude is not looking good.
>>537940894Cannibals don't live long lives, and the only reason trump reached 80 is due to being subject to all sorts of medical procedures that are trying to mitigate the illnesses caused by the rampant consumption of young human flesh.
>>537937189>There are a variety of plans proposed by think-tanks and conservative groups. post one then
>>537936416just switch to Trumpcare
>>537940547Are you just going to post this nonsense in every thread?
>>537943878It's a bot.
call me when he ends medicar and medicaid
>>537939418Obama could have been a republican if he was white - the democratic party is pretty interchangeable with republicans since like... Jimmy Carter?
