has Russia tried intercepting drones blowing up their refineries? 50 regions in Russia have fuel shortages
At what point does the cost/ benefit balance tip to where Russia decides to throw in the towel and go home?
>>537958568When the ukraine blocks off a body of water
>>537958568Stubborn boomers don't know when to call their losses. They will risk losing their entire oil facilities and withdraw all their gold just to keep this war going. Future generations will have to pay for their retardation though.
>>537958268If only they understood the winning strategy of spamming /pol/...
>>537958568>cost/ benefit>war
>>537958568Ukraine is for all intents and purposes destroyed, major population decline and now they're being replaced with niggers and in debt to countless people forever.Wouldn't have happened if Ukraine threw in the towel.
>>537958568>At what point does the cost/ benefit balance tip to where Russia decides to throw in the towelIt is an existential conflict for Russia. If Russia loses, all slavic people become slaves to ZOG for the rest of history. They are backed by a strategic alliance for this conflict that accounts for most of human manufacturing. They are explicitly warning Europe that if NATO begins any actual mobilization taht could threaten Russia, the war will instantly become a full nuclear exchange. North Korea also provides nuclear backing in NATO's other war of aggression against Iran.So given that Russia is on track to win without mobilizing, could mobilized 5x their current conventional forces, has the backing of most of human capacity for warfare, and will end their race by losing, the cost benefit is 1/0.
>>537958854russia is ZOG
>>537958832Ukraine is fighting a defensive war of survival. Russia is fighting a war of choice
>>537958854purgeresearch how ukraine seek for "prorussian population" in ukraine and what they do to them
>>537958568Once Monke falls off a balcony.
>>537958854Jim Burger from Maine oblast is up at 3am defending russia on the internet again.
>>537958268russia will collapse in 2 more weeks
>>537958963>russia is ZOGHalf of the Jews in Russia have fled the country. They're writing articles kvetching about Putin. All the ZOG controlled countries are coordinating to demonize Russia, Russians, and Putin. He's strategically allied with the Aryan Nation and providing Air Defence and nuclear guarantees to them while they lob missiles at Israel. He's on TV openly promoting that Russia is for the Russians first and foremost and that they should remain the majority population in Russia.
>>537958568They never will. You don't understand how most Russians think. You either kill them all or they will eventually overrun the Left Bank of Ukraine. These are the only two options.
>>537958268It's funny that since Trump was elected again and all aid stopped Ukrainians stopped all USA restrictions and tactical exchanges too and do much much better than they did before.USA like usual ruins everything.
>>537958568TO THE LAST ZIGGER
>>537959136Shut the fuck up
>>537958568Russia only stops when it collapses, it's like a retarded kid doing something he shouldn't and doesn't listen
>>537958568You're dealing with russians moiyt. They would rather eat litetal shit than admit that they lost and take the L.
>>537959243A macaco speaks, listen and learn.
>>537959136It's only midnight in the PNW. And 30% of white, working age men in America are unemployed. There's an American revival in Orthodoxy, and the only church more pro-Russia than ROCOR is OCA. American's aren't overwhelmingly in favor of Russia, but the son of the CIA's deputy director died fighting for Russia in this conflict. If I was young, it would be a considerable financial option for me. I have two young boys to advise, and while I wouldn't have them join the US military, I do tell them to consider joining Russia's.
>>537959163Putin is also likely not in the country. Everyone is fleeing Russia, even the most hardened pro-pointless-war ziggers hoping for the consequences of the pointless war to blow over before returning. I've met several ziggers illegally living here while telling me Ukraine deserves the invasion because they're racist and America enslaved black people while the glorious USSR integrated them.
remember when they said russia was running out of tanks and then missiles. now they're spamming threads on fuel shortages lol.
>>537958854>the zoggest country is afraid of zog
>>537959311I share nothing with you, get nuked
>>537959311>t.
>>537959170>tactical exchanges too and do much much better than they did before.The failed offensives where they threw conscripts into minefields were all ordered by NATO suits. If not for that mistake, and if anyone other than Zelenski (A kike whose objective is dead Ukrainians) was in charge, Russia would still be trying to take Mariupol.
>>537959343>remember when they said russia was running out of tanks
>>537958832>>537958854>>537959163>>537959322>>537959386> obvious coping and assmad vatniggers are obvious Year 4 of the 2-3 day SMO pidor lmao!
>>537959323>Putin is also likely not in the country.The US tried to assassinate him at his residence and failed due to AD intercepting a wave of 100 drones. Donald Trump kept him on the phone during the attack. So the US believes Putin is in Russia.>Everyone is fleeing RussiaHaven't met any Russian refugees. Just a lot of Ukrainians.>I've met several ziggers illegally living hereI have a friend in Poland who hasn't told me this.>Ukraine deserves the invasion because they're racistDo you mean that these people are ethnic Russians fleeing the Donbas Republics? I can see why they'd call Ukraine racist after guys with swazi tattoos tried to genocide them before the Russian Federation came to the rescue.
>>537959504> coping and seething vatnigger still spewing out its petty cope ramblings LOL pathetic.
>>537959504>and failed due to AD intercepting a wave of 100 dronesFunny considering Russian AD never intercepted even 50 drones flying against any one particular target
No, this is Putin's cunning plan to get off the oil needle, and a large-scale energy project is being secretly prepared.(sarcasm)
>>537959323>while the glorious USSR integrated themIndeed lolSoviet Russia pushed race-mixing in the 1920shttps://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/rudd-wayland-1900-1952/The last movie Stalin watched before he died https://www.svoboda.org/a/24204619.html was a racemixing cuckold fantasy called Circus - one of his favorites.It tells the story of a fictional American woman with a half-black baby who escapes evil Yankee racism by fleeing to the USSR, where she is embraced with open arms. The movie climaxes with a lullaby sung to the baby in various languages by every ethnic group in the USSR. It concludes with the American woman marrying an ethnically Russian man and also features a black soviet soldier with a Russian wife.Circus won a first class Stalin Prize and was the USSR's most commercially successful movie.Some additional sources stating that Circus was one of Stalin's favorite movies, for those who doubt the Svoboda article.https://www.themoscowtimes.com/archive/centenary-of-film-at-oldest-movie-theaterhttps://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/russia-and-its-empires/laurel-tisserand/https://books.openedition.org/pupvd/3206
>>537959164>surrendered to Japan, Poland, Germany, Chechnya, Afghanistanlol, lmao
>>537959504You clueless mutt the majority of Ukrainian refugees are those "ethnic Russians" fleeing Russia because Russia destroyed their homes and killed their family, you faggot. The war has been primarily in the Russian speaking parts of the country.
>>537958854Yes but that was their choice to start war.
>>537959386It was said at the time that Ukrainians couldn't implement what they were told and went straight back to the Soviet ways in the offensive.Soviet and NATO ways are objectively both worthless in this New type of war and gradually Ukrainians learned new ways on their own and we see that they do better now.Russians on the other hand at least their command refuses to adapt while the actual front grunts have to balance the nonsense they're told.
>>537958568They've already started messaging to their populace that there's no shame in losing.>>537958768They've got plenty of jeets hiding behind various flags on that front.>>537958832Ok, so without even addressing your claims... even if true, how many more years of Russian meat waves dying in droves daily and their economy being literally and metaphorically on fire till they even just control all the territory they added to their constitution years ago, let alone other ridiculous goals like "denazification"?>>537958854>existential conflictRussia was under no threat of attack or invasion.If this is an "existential conflict" for Russia it is solely because Putin has happily used the wealth and society they've inherited as kindling to try to set Europe ablaze out of jealousy and spite.Continuing this conflict only puts them in a worse and worse position going forward.>They are backed by a strategic alliance for this conflict that accounts for most of human manufacturingLol they have lost most of their foreign allies throughout this clusterfuck.>Nook ook OOK!At least two missile tests I've seen have blown up on launch destroying the facilities.Two more comically crashed right back down as those recoding it panicked.In their recent oreshit chimpout "warning" one missile hit a random garage and the other fell in russian-controlled territory.If russia actually even tries to use nukes they're most likely to nuke themselves.
>>537959136>MaineWow, people usually default to ohio(I like saying new ohio for extra effect).This is the first time I've had my state used!I approve but maybe pepper in some local aspects like blueberries or moose or lobster with some kind of Russian tilt. They have moose over there too.>>537959170Don't forget when we got caught literally feeding russia Intel.Like the euros gave us some fake shit as a test and, as expected, we handed it over.
>>537958268Corrupt shithole like russia will never find sollution. They will just find someone to blame and beat.
>>537959343>remember when they said russia was running out of tanksZiggers are truly hilarious
>>537959504>Le genocideGirkin said that if he hadn't "pulled the trigger" on the war by going in with Russian troops and arms posing as "separatists" it all would have "fizzled out" with only a few dozen people killed or even just arrested.Basically the scale of a small-medium size criminal organization(with hostile foreign support and control) being broken up.That's your "genocide".Compare that to all the death and destruction since.
>>537959932That's really the craziest part. As if Ukraine is not in a much weaker position enough already, no you have to actively help Russia too.And our faggots politicians are still trying to appease the USA.
>>537958832I suggested they make a peace deal when it first started, but was laughed at.
>>537960030They're just holding back their REEL army for nato!Any day now a fleet of secret Soviet gundams piloted by babushkas and ziglets will storm across europe and take it all in a matter of hours!
>>537960152>make peaceOy vey give us Crimea and there will be peace!>few days laterOy vey give us Donetsk and Luhansk and there will be peace!>few years laterOy vey give us Donbass, Kherson, Zaporizhia and there will be peace!hmmmmmmmm...
>>537958268Russia deployed Starlink jammers in Crimea so the West has Zelensky targeting Moscow until mass-production starts, at which point it's off to the next western provocation that seeks to delay the inevitable annexation of Ukraine.
>>537960149I mean, as much as retarded zigger shills try to cast this whole war as a plot by the west to take down mighty Russia out of jealousy no one(in the west) wanted this war or for it to last so long.That's why sanctions, support, and "permission" to use that support came so slowly, no one expected the strength of ukrainian resistance or the depths of Russian incompetence.We were fully ready to let Russia take Ukraine and respond with nothing more than some finger wagging and token sanctions on individuals like with crimea, especially Europe for that sweet cheap fuel.
>>537958832Ukraine being destroyed makes the invasion even more pointless for Russia, retard, they're throwing millions of lives and trillions of dollars hoping to take over land that will be a depopulated pile of rubble and contaminated farmland by the time they take it, and Russia doesn't have the money to rebuild all of Ukraine's infrastructure nor the demographics to repopulate the land. They thought they'd take the whole country with no resistance in 3 days and inherit a large population with some of the best farmland on Earth and when they realized Ukraine wasn't surrendering they should have given up. Retarded stubborn boomers would rather commit murder suicide than admit defeat though.
>>537960378>Russia can totally jam all the ukrainian drones... just not to protect any of their major assets or in any way you can see... anyway STOP BOMBING US OR NOOK OOK OOK!
>>537960420>and Russia doesn't have the money to rebuild all of Ukraine's infrastructureThey can't even afford to develop russia lmaoThey're in the process of going back to the 90s but worse and with no one eager to bail them out again
>>537958832You have to be absolutely fucking insane or desperately Indian to move to a place like Ukraine, that place has been in conflict, famine and war for fucking centuries and it doesn't seem like it'll stop any time soon
>>537960030Woah, that's a whole battalion of T-90S and T-72B3!
Russians unironically believe difficult situations make them stronger and thus are happy that things are getting worse for them. They will gladly let things get progressively worse and worse.At some point their whole military effort will collapse and they will be happy that the situation gets more difficult.Then at some point the whole government and civilian infrastructure collapses and the population will cheer.>Hard times create strong men
>>537958268Yes, they did. It didn't go well.
>>537960584>desperately IndianDa fellow amerikinski!
>>537960681Aside from Russian AA being hilariously bad it's just not designed for modern drone warfare.The counter to drones(until better AI-assisted turrets develop, and even then...) seems to be more drones and currently Ukraine seems to be out-producing them.
>>537960391True, Germany waited months before we send helmets, helmets yes.And any zigger saying a WWI style atrittion war was always the plan is just coping like usual. Russian leaders were told nonsense about the state of their army but after losing the northern and north Eastern front they couldn't bail out anymore or it would objectively look like a loss and to the average pidor a humiliating loss. The last thing they want is a political uprising in Russia, hence the cope that they're actually fighting all of NATO so they don't look so pathetically weak and retarded.
>>537960030>"When Strong Appear Weak" -Art of WarHeh. You guys have been baboozeled by the smarter russians
>>537960378>Russia deployed Starlink jammers in Crimeadidn't help much
>>537961142To be fair, I feel like there is some alternate timeline where, like we pretty much all expected, it really would be three days to kyiv.That russia would take out the ukrainian leadership, killing, capturing, or sending them fleeing into exile while causing minimal collateral damage to infrastructure and either officially annexing the country or installing a puppet regime that would defacto achieve the same result.That the west would be forced to accept it and only give a token response like with crimea.THAT would have honestly been one of the greatest military victories of the modern era, if not all time.
>>537958854Russia is globohomo from temu
>>537958568>At what point does the cost/ benefit balance tipthat was about 2-3 months inRussia and chinks have one thing in commonthey are obsesed with saving facethey don't get that they have been buck broken already and continuing only makes shit worse for them in the futureit's like a nigger who tries to run away from copsit is only going to get worse
>>537960391https://www.theinteldrop.org/2024/02/19/how-euromaidans-cia-coup-triggered-ukraines-nine-year-war-on-donbass/
>>537958268actually itz juzt ze european zummer heat cauzing zmokes. t. ivan
>>537961671Ahh yes, retarded zigger babble.Just imagine if Putin hadn't launched his retarded invasion of conquest.They'd still have the European market and numerous foreign allies that believed in Russian strength.They'd have a million+ ziggers NOT killed or crippled.They wouldn't even have to wait in lines for gas in a gas station posing as a country or fear regular drone strikes on their capital!
They are not going to try. It's all part of the plan they are all in it together.
>>537959322Hahahaha a genuine John of Texas oblast :D everybody knows you're paid shill.
>>537961671>"CIA coup"my wife left me because of the JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS energyKEK ziggers don't get why people don't like them
>>537961791Are u dense or jew or glownigglet. You're a retard!
>>537958268This is a land war, not a fuel war, chuddie.
>>537961865Not an argument, dear memeflag paid jeet shill for jewtin's failed invasion!
>>537961671The faggot ZELENSKY started it by bombing crimes and donbas which were Russian speaking ppl as opposed to ukraniyiyi. That's why it started. Canada has Quebec.. DOES CANADA BOMB THEM? On his election campaigns he was all about having a democracy multiple ethnicities and ppl speak different languages. Then he's installed and bombs the Russian speakers and bans it in "HIS" MOTHERFUCKING COUNTRY. SO THERE YOU GO! GOOD DAY IDIOTS.
>>537958268Putin is busy writing about the history of Urkraine to worry about details
>>537962054100% of Ukranians speak Russian and only 70% speak Ukrainianhappens when russian try to ban your language for decadesany other retarded talking points?
>>537961902Kind of is.....if you noye global oil production has been attacked and stopped at let's just say many places globally with a lot of thought. Take the finger out of your ass and smell it and you may have an esniffany. I won't say more. I Think most of you are homosexuals.
>>537958568Russia is just a vassal and proxy for China. China doesn't care how many Russians it kills in this proxy war against Europe.
>>537962120Ya ur mom and ur dad. And FAGGOT NIGGER!
>>537961902you are aware we have vehicles and planes now?we don't just mrch troops across the battlefields in formations???oh right Puccians are stuck in 1800's mentally
>>537962220>memeflaggot makes incoherent insultin other shocking news water is wet and Nick Fuentes is gay
>>537958268What is the solution to drones? How the fuck do you even make cost effective air defense?
>>537958268Have they tried fighting back?
>>537961865The truth hurts the most
>>537962120THEY COULD SPEAK ASSBLASEDIGHANI ORSUCKSTANLAKIAN FOR ALL I CARE. POINT IS YOU ARE A STUPID MOTHERFUCKER UP YOUR DOSAGE SWEETLY RETARDED CUNT!!!!!!!11111
>>537961287>the Art of War>just teleport behind enemy lines and disrupt their logistics, then psychically read the mind of your enemy to anticipate his next move - Sun Ta Zoo, the Chinese Mackey A Vellichinks have never won a war in galactic history
>>537961671>CIA coupLol. An "American" repeating this retarded zigger lie.
>>537962226WHO is "we"? I don't recognize your pissant flag. Is it a meme country? I think so.
>>537962267M'notellin'ya. How'bout dat. FKN ENJOY!
>>537962419Czech republicyou wouldn't like it herewe are 99% white and we don't like muslims or browns
>>537961307Nice neighbors. Guess I should be a GOD OF WAR 2. FK I CARE. Ya Jarhead know nothing pricks. UP YOURS.
>>537960584I had a poop boat too so not a big deal Mr!Very COCKY!
>>537962606Guess how many drone plants Germany is making on top of the two it has them smarty? Europe is getting depopulated whether they like it or not. Russia will be fine btw.
>>537962054you are retarded nigger.remove yourself from this planet immediately.
>>537962417Ok cuck boyGuess you dont mind.your tax money laundered through ukraine. We do. Thats why we voted for Trump.
>>537958268>you, you in the west, driving your hybrid car for 10 minutes is terrible for the environment and you should be ashamed of yourself>burning oil fields and storage facilities on the other hand is great
>>537962294I figured as much. Glowniggerlover
>>537963116you sound like someone who shit them selves after drinking milkalso how is Israels cock in your mouth? comfy nigga?
>>537963025>Russia will be fine btw.KEK and India will be superpower by 2030
>>537963069TLDR NYAHHHHHHH CYGANI
>>537963197You're off by one. Sew it closed.
>>537958568At the point of THD, no amount of desperate terrorism will be able to stop the plague pigs final solution
>>537963315one what?century?
>>537962160Holly pereforce pidor
>>537963337That should only take 50 more years and 30 million more Russian casualties
No fun playing with you transexuals. Tell your dad to really give it to you for me tonight. I'll be across town bangin' your sister's tunamelts. You stink.
Sorry but in all timelines russia just sucks. They could win in some timelines, but not after humiliating themselves time after time, grinding through millions of helpless poors that their country offers and being on the brink of collapse. Thats how all past russian victories were achieved. They are bred to be servile losers and their destiny is to do mostly stupid, destructive stuff
>>537963875Bahhhh what do you know anyway.
>>537958268They're incapable clearly, a useless nation of retards that are shit at war but intent on waging it.And why you ask ? Banan.
>>537959322lol lmao
>>537958832This is the cope that will be spammed nonstop when Russia capitulates by the way.
>>537959504>The US tried to assassinate him at his residenceI wish this was true; whacking Putin would do a fair bit to redeem trump - nothing could totally of course, he's shitted everything up way too much, but if had Putin killed and then he himself died the next day I'd forgive him a fair bit for sure. >muh donbas genocidefucking kys lol
>>537958854I read this in an extremely drunk Russian accent
>>537962120>100% of Ukranians speak Russian and only 70% speak UkrainianThis isn't true at all; many ukranians despise Russia so much that they would never speak it even if they knew how.
>>537958568It's already over. Just look at the posts on ruskie chan
>>537965169>many ukranians despise Russia so much that they would never speak itmy father was forced (just like many of his generation) to learn Russianhe can understand them just fine but he refuses to speak itthat doesn't mean he doesn't know the languageI did hear him once say something to a Russian once"Soviet Union was so great they had to shoot people trying to leave it"
>>537963116I don't mind my tax money going towards killing ziggers such as yourself and helping advance the collapse of russia.
>>537966318I am not going to pretend I support anyone in the Ukraine Russia conflict.Putin says not to kill Zulenkyy.And that's exactly what I whould do.
>>537967223Just fucking kill the kike rat bastard.No.Then if you want to prolong this war so badly you don't need my support.
>>537967223>I'm totally nootral>I just repeat kremlin lies nonstop>russia goodboi russia dindu nuffin
Your enemy has repeatedly said no to killing your leader.If that doesn't tell you something idk what whould.
>>537967487If Putin would go after Ukrainian leadership then it would be open season on his head too together with all his muppets and he doesn't want that.
>>537967487Putin has tried to assassinate Zelensky and other Ukrainian leaders several times. He has failed so far because russians are incompetent retards.
>>537961671imagine how weak Russia's game is, if it collapses because of American cookies
>>537962054Zelensky was elected as deluded peacenik that tried everything to make a peace deal with Russia, up to the point of even taking money from defence production to improve highways (making Russian attacks easier).That only emboldened Russia, as all appeasement does.
>>537962267that's the neat thing, you don'twars of conquest and map painting are over, the only way of making your country better is invest in your own population.which means the future of Russia is 404
>>537967987Putin has tried to kill Zulenkyy my ass.I'd go against orders and try to kill the fucker too.That is my point.
>>537968593And if I was on the Ukraine side....I'd go against orders and try to kill the fucker once again.
It's like being a tax payer.Him which side should I support not to give kikes more money for war crimes....?
>>537969251Will fake captions make Russia win in some way?
>>537969251They don't really have a choice. If they surrender russia will kill all of them
>>537958568If Putain declares a loss he will go to bed and never wake up the next day.He knows that, so Russia will die before the madness will end.
>>537970276Your capital is burning VPN-Chan, are you done sucking the cope cock?
>>537968593https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_ZelenskyyIt's a wiki but it has links to the original sources. So now what will you do?A) go into angry incel screeching modeB) say it's all fake because western mediaC) shit your pantsD) all of the aboveWe all know the answer.
>>537970400Ziggers still claim they didn't lose the battle of Kiev. It's pointless to argue with them, they ignore anything that is not approved russian propaganda
>>537958986>we survive by killing all the hohols and replacing them with blacks and jeets so not surviving then
>>537962267You don’t. You can’t intercept drones effectively with nothing that doesn’t cost more than the drone. You could create a proper anti-drone system but that requires time and money you DO NOT have during a war.Ruski have to accept until the end of the war they are a valid target. Let’s seeHow long it takes befor ethey ask the important questions.
>>537970392What did you guys drone some apartment buildings again?
>>537970523Did you quote the wrong post or did you accidentally posted your jeet country motto?
>>537970400Ukraine has attacked more NATO countries since the start of the war attempting to start WW3. Eglin tranny niggers who think war is a good thing will NEVER acknowledge this, or Ukraine starting the war to begin with.
>>537970585Your mom. Soon.The fact this is a legit answer says it all.The humiliation ritual has reached the point Ruski are crying to please be human.
>>537970589>spic not speaking English coherently Every time ayeee ariba ariba
>>537970620If you VPN Faggots intercepted more missiles and posted less, maybe we wouldn’t be laughing at YOUR CAPITAL BURNING.
>>537970662>SpicOh, you are THAT retarded. Look better mental case.
>ukraine facing bankruptcy>kidnapping gangs out of lack of manpower>losing ground consistently>crickets>russia get hit by the same thing ukraine has been getting hit for years >IMMINENT COLLAPSE ITS OVER FOR PUTLETWhen will you troons go back to plebbit?
>>537970818When will you go back to Africa?
>>537970818You forgot 1 thing vpn zigger.>year 5 of a 3 day SMO, world superpower bogged down against the poorest country in europe while the capital and refineries are burning
>>537970721aww do you not like the same bantz back? I know your gay flag, you are still not even remotely white. as evidenced by your total inability to communicate in my language. 'get better'. are you sending me a get well card? fucking ESL brownoid spic.
>>537970690Maybe if you went back to your country and fought for it Ukraine would have won by now, well poisoning kike.
>>537958568sunken cost, they can’t give up and that’s why we should do them a favor and finish the fall of the soviet union once and for all and permanently
>>537970910>>537970932>two east european poorfags immediatelly replyGo fight the war then, any self respecting /pol/ack not from eastern Europe would be against the war shilled to them by literal demonic kikes from Brussels.I've long stopped taking you leeching useful idiots seriously.
>>537958809Yes, that's the reason for war. War is used to gain or to not lose something.Wars are very rarely fought for the reason outwardly stated.
>>537970818>>russia get hit by the same thing ukraine has been getting hit for years50 Ukrainian regions have 5km lines to gas stations(that have no gas)?
>>537958568The prize is dragging Europe to hell with them out of spite. Russia can continue this war indefinitely.
>>537971061>Muh Brussels King Leopold II did nothing wrong, nigger.
>>537971001It's not sunken cost. Russia might very well balkanize if they decide to give up now.At best Russia will lose almost all of their power projection and Putins grip on Russia will become weak, if he CNS even manage to stay in power.From the Russian standpoint they have to win.
>>537971274If Putin stays in power Russia will balkanize. Every year economic situation becomes worse and worse, soon every single region in Russia won’t have fuel to drive food truck to stores
>>537958832So russia can go home and say they won
>>537959901>Russia was under no threat of attack or invasion.Tell me, will the US object if in the scenario Russia will deploy its bases in Cuba or Latin America.Or China will negotiate with Mexico about military presence there.>Continuing this conflict only puts (((them))) in a worse and worse position going forward.EVERYONE
>>537971393look at this retard cheering for Ukraine when they spike their cost of living and directly attack the economy of the union that supports them financially. what a faggot cuck like there isn't even words for that level of pathetic. 'Yaas queen zelensky please blow up the Russian gas lines we Euros depend on'
>>537971528You know who depends on Russian refineries? Russia
>>537971599you know who economic sanctions never work on? Producers. this is why the thing has been a giant cutting off the nose to spite your face moment for Europe. just get poorer to own those russkies!
>>53797167450 Russian regions currently experiencing fuel rationing where people are allowed to buy 20 liters of gas per car. At the same time price of gas jumped to European levels despite making 5-10 times less than Europeans
>>537971774and in Europe you can't even run air conditioning to ration energy. don't throw stones in your glass house.
>>537968593> I'd go against orders and try to kill the fucker tooIf you were close enough to kill Zelenskyyiyyv, you’d be a Ukrainian zogbot, which means you wouldn’t have the brain capacity to understand why he needs to be killed in the first place.
>>537971774Srusskies are winning.
>>537971808and I know he's a tranny eglin nigger but imagine this being your cope script and having to pretend like you're at all winning >yeah europe can't run AC in a heatwave, but Igor has to drive farther to find another gas station! winning! just fucking kill yourself at that point
>>537971808Are Europeans ones stuck waiting in 12 hour lines to buy 20 liters of gas at 4 Euros/liter?(russians pay 120-220 roubles per litre or 1.35 EUR/L with monthly 400 EUR pay?)
>>537971953are Europeans not dying in their homes from the heat they aren't allowed to use energy to deal with and having their currency devalue into nothing? one side is holding up much better than the other Eglin, your gay Hohol war has as much public support as Israel these days. nobody likes the war hungry pigs in Ukraine anymore, its not 2020 with the gay bumper stickers.
>>537972139what the fuck are you even talking about, I think you should stop getting your news from /pol/
>>537958568
>>537958268Nah, it's totally impossible to shoot down slaw moving, big loud drones lumbering over your cities at low altitude. Totally impossible.
>>537972188>euro heat wave and euro authorities banning AC is a Russian conspiracy and pretending to be retarded? looks like we got another Eglin mutt. aloha Sgt. Gonzalowitz!
We don't keep SAMs in our cities so the same would happen to us.
>>537971674>sanctions only make us stronger>that's why pls lift sanctionsWhite people will never understand the doublethink of you russians.
>>537972259Russia being so massive in this case works against them. It's hard to defend big territories.
>>537972345We’re not at war with our neighbor(s).
>>537972340Where is AC banned? Give a specific answer instead of angry virgin sperging, Jim Maple from Banff oblast.
>>537972340I have AC running right now, I have no idea what you are talking about unless you think that London = Europe
>>537972369>yes we contracted our own economy to own the russosamazing economic warfare Sven. and yeah the AC ban is a conspiracy lmao. your brain on NAFO trannyism
>>537972139First we froze to death now we are melting to second death. If only we allowed puccia to play empire... Don't forget to threaten us with nooks, shitskin.
You know maybe this is kinda an unpopular opinión but as things in europe remain calm, usa don't pay that much attention to this conflict anymorr and Israel having their own shit fights in the zone plus probably turkey in the future Made me thougt.....What if this war isnt a existential conflict between zog and pure based trad ruzzia and it's just a slavic blood feud between corrupt olichachs people who funtionally can't resolve their problems without killing each other and for the west and Israel is pretty irrelevant at this point who won?
>>537972570How is the European economy compared to russia's? You simply fail to understand how pitifully weak russia is, you are a tiny insignificant insect compared to Europe.
>>537959170Amerifats ruin everything they touch. Corrupt, greedy Machievallian snakes. This war has taught us how meaningless America's guarantees are.
>>537971528>look how brown I am
>>537970932Russia is fighting the entire of NATO and still winning. All SMO goals will be achieved, “Ukraine” will cease to exist.>>537970932>muh refineriesEngineers fix the refineries after such terrorist attacks within days, and their efficiency at repairs is increasing constantly.
>>537973039Finland's politicians has been bought by the Jewish globalists and they have sold out your country to escalate a proxy war with Russia whilst imposing economic misery on the people.The Finnish political class is not serving the interests of Finns when adopting a aggressive attitude towards Russia (Stubb labels the No.1 threat to the Western world).The country's leadership is largely captured by global financial interests including WEF (both ex-PM Marin and current President are Young Global Leaders) and funding from billionaire and Palantir shareholder Poju Zabludowicz (who also funded David Cameron). To top it all off, the Minister of Foreign affairs is also a Bilderberg attendee. Finland is a case study in how representative democracy (to the extent it ever existed) has now been completely hollowed out by oligarch and corporate interests.
>>537974073>Engineers fix the refineries after such terrorist attacks within days, and their efficiency at repairs is increasing constantly.lol lmao
>>537958568I doubt that the war will continue for another 5 years it is more likely the moment putin dies it opens the door for a new peace deal to save face
>>537958854Russia doesn't have tanks or armored personnel carriers to move any of their mechanized infantry. Their whole Soviet era doctrine that they had relied on is utterly useless in this modern age. If Russia wants to continue this war there then they will have to use a nuclear weapon to soften up their enemies Capital cities. They can't win without going to their nuclear arsenal. That would be suicide.
>>537972429We aren't?
>>537974722Russia has more tanks and APC than any country in the world
>>537974907>Puccia has tigers
>>537961671Even if it was the case (it is not).What if the plan was to bait two ex soviet states to fight each other.Putin must be really stupid to play right in to Americas hands.
>>537974073>fix the refineries after such terrorist attacks within days>emergency oxcarts with fuel tanks are on the way to the affect areas>worst case scenario, supply will be restored in two weeks
>>537974825Not in the way Russia and Ukraine at war, no. I don’t see missiles flying over my house, for example.
>>537958568That's not how the russian mind works anon - you are either the boss, or the bitch, and no inbetween. Pypa can't be made to look like a bitch, or the knives come out, so he'll only doulde down. No matter how stupid it is.
>>537971153>War is used to gain or to not lose something.No. War is to make the goyim lose.Of course, the jew loses his genetics, name, soul and identity in the process as well, but not his denial. Naturally, the same process awaits the obedient goyim who follow jewish orders, not hearing the bells of morality from within; opting to listen to the nonsense around him.The price of this is hell - on earth.
>>537972139>bunch of geriatrics get heat strokes from walking outside>EUROPE HAS NO ACare /pol/troons really this retarded?
>>537976893This site, much like any limited social media site, hinders human communication and learning.Proper knowledge is replaced by a low-level discourse, implications, metanarratives and slogans. However, it's not guaranteed to work. Feel the cringe that comes from sloganites.
>>537976893Why didn’t those old people just stay inside then? Are they stupid?
>>537961024>Aside from Russian AA being hilariously bad it's just not designed for modern drone warfare.OK
>>537976615>That's not how the russian mind works anon - you are either the boss, or the bitch, and no inbetween. Pypa can't be made to look like a bitch, or the knives come out, so he'll only doulde down. No matter how stupid it is.This, the Russians are constitutionally incapable of nuance, because they have been so goddamn traumatized by centuries of rule, first by the Mongols, then the czar and the boyars, then the Soviet Union and finally the leftovers of the KGB. It's impossible for them to consider an alternative logic, because to do so without them at the top means the destruction of their society.
>>537958268When Russia captures Stinky it is an automatic win. It's the only thing that matters.
Why can ziggers do nothing but seethe and lie?
>>537958568They are not going to give up. Russia will get the rest of Donetsk or die trying.
>>537958568a refinery has 25 - 50 tanks of fuelThis means that if a drone destroys a full tank, assume it is full, that make 2% of the fuel lost.Rebuilding a tank is 1 million euros in cost top + job paya medium-sized refinery process 250.000 barrels weeklyAs today's price, this makes 8 - 26 million dollars weeklySo if droens destroy tanks is light wounds for a refineryDestroying the main distillation tower or the central control can cause serious damage to the refinery, around 50 million damage, but you can build or rebuild with protection for those. 2 meters thick concrete wall, 18 metres tall, and 3 metres of earth berm will protect against 2 tons of explosives, cost 10 million + job payso the photos look impressive, but the damage is minimal. The refinery near moscov hit the other day, makes 126.000 barrels daily and more. So all that smoke amounts to 3% of fuel burning.The primary reason you get a shortage is that when people fear a shortage, they go in mass at the pumps, which ends up causing the shortage in a self-fulfilling prophecy. As the hysteria subsides, so does the problem.
>>537977942>comrades, the way to ensure fuel availability is that you stop buying fuel the soviet mind is truly a wonder to behold
>>537978123I'm italian
>>537978207>I'm italiancongratulations, you think like a russian government employee
>>537978263when you read something you don't like, you cram whoever wrote it into the "other group" and dismiss whatever they are saying by default? If so, you think like a fanatic.
>>537978523you pulled those numbers from your assor worse, from some official russian sourcenot sure which source contains more shit
>>537977942Now look up where Russia used to get those refinery parts from
>>537977942Do you have some data about how fast russia has repaired and brought online these destroyed tanks?
>>537958568The Kremlin is obsessed with 'victory'. Russian papers need to deliver positive news everywhere, no matter what the reality is. If Russia were to retreat, they'd have to do it in such a sneaky way that they can sell a lie of victory to the Russian people.This imo is one of the big differences between a democratic superpower and a dictatorial superpower. The US has many many flaws and is in certain ways more inefficient than Russia or China. But the US has lost many many wars, and survived them all without any recent revolutions. Dictatorships are way more fragile. They always need to keep delivering good news, sunny days and victories. Or oppress their people so hard that expressions of discontent are impossible.
>>537958568Putin cannot deescalate. If the calls off the war, a lot of unhappy people with iching fingers are coming back from front lines and economy without the support of the military industrial complex will be much worse off, and Ukraine will start suing them for billions in war reparations. This one's for a long haul, because it's the only way Putin can stay in control.
>>537958268amazing us taxpayers are STILL paying for this “ukraine is two weeks frim winning goys!” cope simulator
>>537979181Russia is not a superpower though. They are a mid-range regional power.
>>537970938Hello SAAR
>>537979702Not really. It's mostly EU footing the bill these days. We just sell them weapons.On the bright side we're up to 1.4 million Russian casualties
>>537958268NATO want the Russians to nuke Ukraine so they can justify using nukes.
>>537979181The norfkorification continues.They lost the internet, their cars, soon all their privare property will be seized. Resistance will be gulag'd, millions will die, but it's all worth it to protect the kgb mafia from losing power.
>>537976667>*takes meds*>anyways back to reality
>>537981071That WOULD be entertaining
>>537960391Does anybody fall for this retarded shilling any more ?
>>537958986Just let nuke interceptors on your border bro that can be outfitted with small range stealth ballistics bro cmon bro
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>>537958854>all slavic people become slaves to ZOG for the rest of history>having a running clean water, electricity, and not eating taters for ever meal is becoming a slaveyou have a long way coming down there Im afraid, americabros
Nonsense. Everything is going to the plan.
>>537974907>hashad
>>537958986>Ukraine is fighting a proxy war at the behest of America and the E.U to test Russia's military capabilitiesFTFY. If both sides weren't getting pressured to continue to meatgrinder war by kikes across Europe then Russia and Ukraine would've probably thrown in the towel after the first year of stagnant lines. Both countries are filled to the brim with retarded incompetent politicians that are in it to secure their own bags, I doubt Russia would've even benefited from their expansionist bullshit if it fully went their way and they made off like bandits with a three week military operation.
>>537990161>Ukraine is fighting a proxy war at the behest of America and the E.U to test Russia's military capabilitieslast time I checked Russia invaded Ukraine
the fuel refineries intercept the drones fine, why do we need more stuff to do that
>>537958268Damn, that's crazy, Konstantinovka status?
you are harboring excess fuel in your vehicle, are you not
>>537958268I dont know why they dont have anti air forces stationed at them
>>537992891Knowing how russia works there will be loads of bribes going back and forth.
Anyone ever think about how we’re just sitting around arguing about bullshit while on a rock falling through space Yeah this is totally normal
>>537990611And? That doesn't change the fact that every western country with skin in the game immediately butted in and co-opted the war from a being a year long shit flinging contest between two shitholes in the corner of the world into a half-decade long meat grinder just to whittle Russia's hardware down. I have no idea why retards always say "But Russia attacked first!" as if that's a smug gotcha. A bunch of countries gave Ukraine hardware but peer-pressured them to not immediately resort to bombing Russia directly because they didn't want Russia running out of resources and needing to stop the invasion, they wanted Russia to keep invading Ukraine so they could keep drone-striking their tanks and other hardware inside Ukraine. Now that the gravy train is about to hit a stop because everyone is focusing on Iran and Israel Ukraine is attacking Russia, and surprise fucking surprise they're bombing their shit in. They could've done this years ago instead of sending drunk whites to kill each other in empty fields for towns with a population of 200, but they didn't because this war wasn't about defending their country and their people, it was about blowing up Russia's tanks and making the country spend a bunch of money.I said it once and I'll say it again, Ukraine vs Russia is just a proxy war between America and the EU vs Russia meant to dump water on the paper tiger. Shitholes attack each other all the time for land expansion, what makes this situation in particular an all or nothing fight for survival? Absolutely nothing besides propaganda saying that to justify giving Ukraine more bombs to strike Russian hardware with. I refuse to believe retards actually think this war would've ended with Ukraine disappearing off maps if the EU and America didn't intervene. Not even Putin wants the left side of that decrepit shithole.
>>537958268Russia must be brought to its knees. They were planning to attack the West.
>>537971187There are literal talks of splinter units forming in Russia to rebel
>>537979181Ukraine is obsessed with 'victory'. Ukrainian papers need to deliver positive news everywhere, no matter what the reality is. If Ukraine were to retreat, they'd have to do it in such a sneaky way that they can sell a lie of victory to the Ukrainian people.
>>537959163>In 2003, during a television broadcast with President of Russia, Russians on the streets asked him questions. One of the elderly men asked Vladimir Putin what his and his party's stance on "Russia for Russians" slogan was. Putin responded that those who shout and act upon such slogan are "either idiots or provocateurs" (пpидypки либo пpoвoкaтopы), who "don't understand what they do and shout".
>>537958268you cant intercept drone swarms. you would need our german new flak and even then. they just send more drones and any system gets overwhelmed with it. drones are out of whack, we must have the best ones but they must be cheap also.
>>537958854>russia is on track to win without mobilizingWhat track is that exactly? Over 4 years into this war and they seem further from victory today than they were in 2022. Also you are a faggot
>>538001200isnt it the fifth year of this shit show?
