how do you prove climate change is a hoax?
>>537961614>winter vs summergot it
>>537961614it's not. the earth's climate has been changing since the day it formed and haven't stopped
>>537961614Let the bodies hit the floor hit the floor aahhhhhhhhh
>>537961886>September 1984>September 2016At what point between 1984 and 2016 did summer and winter switch places?
Why would I want to prove that?In a world where evolution is real, riverbeds change, lakes appear and disappear, volcanoes sleep or awaken, currents change... animals and humans migrate, some go extinct since forever... what would make anyone think climate doesn't shift!What Idiotic scientist would want to stop Nature. lol
>>537961614Northwest passage when?
>>537961614You don't the climate changes nobody disputes that. You're being a retard again take your meds.
>>537961614>big chunk of ice melted>coastlines didn't change at allhmm...
>>537961614The "predictions" prove it is a hoax, the faulty data proves it is a hoax, all the lies prove it is a hoax and the politicians and other scum peddling it constantly proves it is a hoax.
>>537961614The hoax is that man is responsible and can stop it with money. There isn't supposed to be polar ice. There wasn't any for millions of years.
I’m sure paying more taxes and import more shitskins will solve the problem quickly.
Scientists pushing the climate change scam wannt their research grift funding to continue. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
>>537961614Because no real measures are done to bind CO2 like planting trees, but the earth does it for itself, regulating it perfectly
>>537961614The Earth's surface is now colder than during any point of the past 485 million years
Also why destroy western civilization with green bullshit when China, india and the US doesn't give a fuck and it's all about destroying industry and our lifestyle, so we live in mud huts in the future or something?
>>537961918Climate Change doesn't deny that, what it says is that we are accelerating it.
>>537961614climate always changes daily and yearly climate changing is the natural state
>>537961614When did you first realise you were gay?
>>537961614
>>537962918The US has cities with more people that entire European countries. We're doing all right, all things considered.
Yes it is, even climate deniers like trump know it exists, he sperged out about greenland for that very fact as he wanted the oil under the ice once it all melt away.
>>537963078Yeah because you outsourced most of production to China
Climate change is natural and has been present throughout human history. The question is if we're contributing and if so how much. The conversation has been hijacked by greedy "leftists" who claim it's entirely us and we need to increase taxes infinitely to stop it and greedy "right wingers" who want to sidestep pollution laws to turn the first world into India.
BLOCK OUT THE SUN>carbon dioxide feeds plantsNO! Electrolytes feed plants. Water the crops with Brawndo™!
>>537961614.Same water levels
>>537961614whatever gets my dick suxked is the truth
>>537963122Well in some instances they're correct. Look at india, the environmental damage there in the rivers and streams, the desertification of the land. All that was because of jeets. They changed their own climate.
>>537961614>all that ice supposedly melted>sea levels didn't increase by a millimeter
Climate change is the biggest griftIts a way for politicians to launder taxpayer moneyThey arent researching anythingAt most they send a group to the south poleand encourage recycling and paper straws to make the general population feel like they are on the case Its all smoke and mirrorsWhole thing is a money game and the ones that learn the secret have their hands in the pot
>>537962860CO2 is not a, "greenhouse gas." That was proven 100 years ago. Turn of the 20th century, insulation and how it worked was not well understood. Some people though it was hotter in greenhouses than it was outside because plants in the greenhouse produce CO2. A guy did an experiment. He made mini glass greenhouses and filled them with various gasses. He had a calibrated set of thermometers and put on in each mini greenhouse and set them out in the sun. They all read the same temperature regardless of what gas they were filled with. "Greenhouse gas," is proven bullshit. Proven to be bullshit more than a century ago.
>>537963210Australia was turned into an eternal desert of death because of tens ouf thousands of years of repeated Aboriginal wildfires. Strangely enough leftists never raise their voice over the retarded environmetal practises of moron races.
>>537962964>weYou mean the 92% shitskins that make up world's population. Those who need to be genocided in the most gruesome ways?
>>537961614You don't, because it's correct. Retards who try to debunk man-made climate change often don't even know what they're supposed to dismantle.It's like they're trying to debunk the existence of amphibious vehicles by showing photos of sunken bicycles.That doesn't mean, however, you also have to agree on the necessity or method of countering it.
>>537963435Must be the mars rover.
>>537963210Agreed, we do need environmentalism. We just don't need this easily exploited, creepy apocalyptic rhetoric. It turns one side into lunatics and the other throws the baby out with the bathwater.
>>537962684yeah because that's sea ice
>>537963383something tells me that the greenhouses doesn't have the same levels of energy and convection cycles involved
>>537961614>My computer generated image proves climate change
>>537961614Well OP, climate change is not a hoax, but I can poke holes in itFirst of all, the story they are selling to us is bullshit, climate is never ever stable, it is always changing. For most of human history we lived in quite a cold time compared to the regular temperature of the Earth, and heating was inevitable. What we have done through human activity is accelerate this heating, but humanity would've had to deal with it eventually anyhow. Secondly, your photo basically hinges on climate being stable or not experiencing temporary cooling or warming periods.The fact is that yes, temperatures on average have grown slightly, but when we have extreme weather patterns and high temperatures, these are not what climate heating is about. Periods of intense heat and cold that would last for periods of a year or few years have been recorded long before industrialization.So while yes, climate is slowly getting warmer, what we as humans notice are not these minute average temperature changes, what we notice and what's constantly used to fearmonger on the news are intense weather patterns that have always existed. But these have become more common due to climate change, sure
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?None of the rich people nor politicians pushing the conspiracy theory bother to cut back, they only tell you to cut back while they use 1,000x the resources of the average person.
>>537963383>"Greenhouse gas," is proven bullshitThat's what i'm saying
>>537961614bible or koran usually work
>>537963535CO2 is measured in parts per million. It's so fucking ridiculous. How good a goy do you have to be to believe in this hoax.
>>537961987>At what point between 1984 and 2016 did summer and winter switch places?Newfag detected. You have to be 18 or older to post here.
>>537961614It isn't, the hoax is that we can do anything about it.
>>537961614Isn't the global warming just a sign of the impending ice age? I read somewhere before that the Earth first goes into a cycle of warming up before it goes into some sort of global cooling.
If you want to prove such a thing as The Greenhouse Effect actually exists, get 2 two liter pop bottles, and two thermometers. Breathe CO2 laden air out of your lungs into one of them. Fill the other with regular air. Put the thermometers inside the bottle, put the caps on, leave them out in the sun. These climate change fags claim a .5% CO2 increase is going to turn our atmosphere into the atmosphere of Venus. Air from your lungs has orders of magnitude more CO2 in it than even the worst possible manmade environmental horror we can imagine. If our atmosphere ever gets that much CO2 in it, we're all dead anyway. Compare the temperatures, they will be the same.
>>537962723>anecdotal evidences disprove literal fucking photos of the poles ok.
>>537963565That doesn't prove anything, though. It could simply be because they plan on exterminating all of us, so even if climate hoax was real, it wouldn't matter, cause they'll only be few thousand individuals left.
>>537961614Former AGW defender here.(1) The 1920/2020 photos of Plymouth Rock & Statue of Liberty show no sea level rise(2) Areas of the planet affected by extreme weather can be explained as (((Pentagon))) psyop using HAARP.(3) After Bill Gates said that building Data Centers is more important than climate change, the mask is off.
>>537962899>500 years of change>b.b.but I have achart fro the past million years and it stops in 2000 before the shit started to snowball
When the glacier melts it leaces behind wood that is thousands of years old, the glacier mowed over a forest because the climate changed and it advanced. >Glock 29SF for scale
>>537961614So when will greta protest in China ?
>>537963685UN City in Copenhagen was built just next to the water, kek. Also, in Copenhagen, they're building an entire new island because of city expansion. It's gonna be just above sea level, as in few feet. They would never do that if they believed that the oceans would rice.
>>537963736Nice glook. I have a 19, but only softgun, cause I live in Fagmark.
>>537963535Fuck all that. CO2 either makes the atmosphere hotter or it doesn't. It's already been proven that it doesn't, and every one of these climate change hoaxers knows it. That's why they can't show you a single experiment that proves it does. It's all computer model bullshit. Show me CO2 warming something, they can't do it.
>>537963042>random sourceless quotes vs factual photo
>>537961614They made that CG image in 1984?
>>537961614Climate change is real. The climate has constantly changed on earth.Wether its now changing rapidly because of man made emissions or not - I am not sure, but it IS changing and it is getting hotter it seems - Quite objectively judging from the data.Either way we are fucked, because greedy humans want more profit, so we make more emissions and if it isn't caused by our own emissions, then we are still fucked because its obviously still happening.There is nothing we can do about it as long as the end goal of societies and politicians is unconditional economical growth... And as an individual it is absolutely futile to do anything, even if you KYS it wont help at all on an individual basis.If it is caused by human emissions then the only thing that can really help, is a total restructuring of societies on a global level and a reprioritization of government goals - From unconditional economic growth to something else. But we all know that it wont happen.
>>537963634There are ice ages and there are glaciation cycles. We are already in an ice age right now. The world is unusually cold right now and this correction is totally inevitable. If our civilisation cannot survive this, then it will perish, simple as.
>>537961614The industrial revolution didn't happen after 1984, nor people started driving car.Government are using climate weapon to create a narrative to force totalitarian law and kill people as a bonus.Never heard about the COVID ? Climate change is the same shit.
>>537961614How do you prove it is man made?
>>537961614http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19962/climate-emergency-hoaxsee river stones in europe from 500 years ago severe drought heat waves>500 years ago>500 years agohttp://www.google.com/search?q=river+stones+europe
>>537963820We're not fucked because of climate. We're fucked because 92% of world's population are utter fucking subhumans that shouldn't even exist. They shit everything up.>hurr durr the avg. Dane consumes 4x the amount the avg. human should do if we were to live sustainablyYes. That's why we need to kill all the fucking subhumans. Then we'd be 1 billion people left, and we could literally ramp up our consumption 2x and it still be sustainable.I can't fathom why more Whites don't support a total shitskin genocide. It's so fucking logical. Do you want to live like a cockroach in a shitskin infested world with 25 billion shitheads, or do you want to live like a king in a world with 1 billion Whites, where there's plenty of everything - including land?
>>537964000It's just like with the vaxx>97% of (((scientists))) agree that CO2 is baaaad, mkay????
>>537963613Height of the atmosphere is measured in km and yet the effect can be demonstrated in very small CO2 containers.
>>537961614Rightoids are subhuman cattle. The fact that they are an ideologically unified monolith against just basic physics, which isn't even a political issue whatsoever, is proof that they are complete and utterly irredeemable NPCs. If this bitter truth isn't enough to radicalize you against their continued existence, nothing is.
>>537964087What are you even trying to convey?
>>537964099Basic physics is that Whites need to genocide all you subhuman brownshits, so we can have the planet for ourselves.
just make a twitter account and selectively retweet some gamers and billionaires
>>537964235>What are you even trying to convey?Infrared radiation encounters lots of CO2 molecules traveling through the atmosphere even at low CO2 concentrations. Refuting the argument that CO2 doesn't make a difference because it's just a few ppm.
>>537961614Climate change is a reality. Climate has never stopped changing across Earth's history.*Man-made* climate change is extremely dubious.*Western* man-made climate change is ridiculous.Remember Anons, do not let juden and their golems make you argue around a false premise.
>>537964436>Infrared radiation encounters lots of CO2 molecules traveling through the atmosphere even at low CO2 concentrations. Refuting the argument that CO2 doesn't make a difference because it's just a few ppm.If you increase the few ppm ten times over, nothing different will happen. Are you retarded? The little CO2 that exists already absorbs what can be absorbed, any more makes no difference.It's like having a slice of shit in your sandwich. You are worrying some jeet will put in more shit in your sandwich. IT DOES NOT MATTER. It already has more shit than required to be a shit sandwhich.
>>537964445Doesn't matter. In the end of the day it's the white man's burden to secure a livable environment.
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?The ICE AGE ended 11,700 years ago, because cavemen were burning too many cavemen were burning too many campfires.
>>537964538>The little CO2 that exists already absorbs what can be absorbedWhy can I feel the sun on my skin if according to you all the infrared gets absorbed?Also, this guy >>537963613 says CO2 doesn't make a difference because it's just a few ppm and you are saying a few ppm absorb everything. Which one is it?
>>537964683>Why can I feel the sun on my skin if according to you all the infrared gets absorbed?Because CO2 absorbs a very thin slice of infrared. That's why. The rest of the spectrum is not affected. You can CO2 max to the gills, it will not affect the rest of the spectrum, just it's absobption bands. Which are saturated already.
>>537964543>it's the white man's burden to secure a livable environment.That won't happen until we get back the military power and national unity necessary to be able to put a gun to the rest of the world's head and order them to fix their shit or we will do it by nuking them back to pre-coal era.Also known as "Shouldn't have lost WW2, Hans."
>>537964436Ahhh, so it's a one way street.. Is that why clear nights are always cold as fuck, you fucking albedonigger?You krauts are the biggest fucking faggot NPCs in the history of the world. I have more t in one of my curly scrotum hairs than there is in all of the German "male" population combined.
>>537961614the entire climate change debate is a hoax to charge money for carbon emissions and to control the entire vehicle, farming and manufacturing industry.Its the perfect goy control mechanism, control the goyims movement, property, finances and food supply.
>>537964905>perfect goy control mechanismLooks like the chinks are winning.Almost like they are the ones gaining exclusivity in CO2 production.Which helps plants grow.To feed the billion chinks they have.
Wait till you can't use a high end PC because of carbon emissions, you can only use a goy pad that is entirely connected to servers.
>>537964723>CO2 absorbs a very thin slice of infraredThat's only true in a vacuum. Google "pressure broadening">>537964865>so it's a one way streetNobody said that. Why are you even constructing this straw man?
>>537961614I didn't know the whole history of the arctic was from 1984 to 2016
>>537961614India caused this.
>>537964985>That's only true in a vacuumThen come out of there.
>>537964731Ok and how exactly does being in denial about climate help with that?
>>537964905Yep. It all boils down to energy. They don't want goys to have infinite amounts of energy, cause energy is power. They want us downtrodden, poor and miserable, so they can rule us with an iron fist. God forbid goys have energy to use laser weapons etc.
>>537965057Which part am I in denial, exactly?
>>537963383What about this experiment?https://youtube.com/shorts/qN353i1f3_U
>>537961614>how do you prove MAN MADE climate change is a hoax?Fixed, and you just zoom out on the timeline.It's going to get a LOT hotter unless a lot of volcanoes have huge plume eruptions, and it's not our fault.
>>537961614If the problem were an emergency with extreme urgency, the solutions would be drastic and unilateral.All proposals to date have been tiny, narrow in scope, and somehow MAGICALLY only benefitting the groups that are proposing them (and only hurting the people below them).Does that lend itself as a situation to any credibility? No, it doesn't.If you ACTUALLY wanted to curb global emissions and do it REALLY FAST you would need to implement drastic and extremely broadly-reaching policies that impact every country in the world, with none of them being exempted. Something quickly and revolutionary, like seeding the oceans with iron dust to promote microbiomes so that they can absorb Co2 en-masse. Or converting every commercial container ship to modular nuclear power and lifting all related port restrictions on nuclear power so we can stop burning crude oil directly into the air.Existential problems require existential solutions. Not band aids.
>>537964985Why? Because if heat can enter, it can also exit. Ergo; no matter how much CO2 "traps" heat on one side, it also "traps" it on the other side. That's why clear nights are cold. Heat radiates straight into space once the sun is gone and there are no clouds. But that's where they're smart.. That's why I called you an albedonigger. They invented this retarded theory that it only goes one way, lmao.
>>537965106You are calling into doubt the influence of man made CO2. That's just naive.And just look at this thread where retards denying basic physics.
>>537961918Nobody disputes that. The climate change argument simply states that the rate and intensity of change is accelerated by human activity, which seems pretty hard to deny
>>537965176"nuclear power" is fake, that's why it's not used
>>537965145Dropping a tablet that produces huge amount of CO2 compared to the air volume in the beaker doesn't prove shit. It's like throwing an ant out of a window 100 meters up, while going "See, gravity doesn't kill".
>>537965312Then how does the majority of the US naval fleet, especially submarines, work?Nuclear power is real. It's application is just limited by excessive regulation and unfounded paranoia. It should be commonplace, but all the competing options stifle it. The nuclear age was prevented by red tape.
>>537965208>Because if heat can enter, it can also exit.The frequency of the earth's radiation is absorbed much better than the sun's radiation. It absolutely does trap heat.
You can eitherA. Change your consumption to zero, turn off electricity, eat ze bugs, let go off all property, curl up in a corner and die OrB. Start killing journalists
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?We're coming out of an ice age dude. Most of Europe and North America used to be under a mile thick layer of glacier 10,000 years ago.That doesn't mane you should fuck your economy and your society trying to stop CO2 levels.
>>537965399Then we'd have global warming without CO2 too. A microscopic layer of CO2 in the upper atmosphere doesn't change how Earth absorbs heat.
>>537963820Worse is yet to come
Humanity deserves exactly what they are going to get as a consequence of their pathetic, desperate actions. Anyone who naively believes otherwise, need only visit this website
The earth is going green faster than ever BECAUSE of CO2This is what plants crave (unironically)
>>537965463>Then we'd have global warming without CO2 tooNo. Think again.>>537965463>A microscopic layer of CO2 in the upper atmosphereWhat are you even talking about? CO2 mixes with the atmosphere.
>>537962964>>537965305>massive complex ecosystem that has been changing for millions of years>it was going to happen anyways>but somehow it's the HUMANS fault!>we can fight it with an additional 5% increase on personal income tax and barring you from owning a car>now we should replace real meat with ground insect protein>now go live in the pod (without AC because it causes global warming)you people are the most retarded subhuman useful idiots around right now
>>537961614Burden of proof has not yet been met.
>>537964905I agree with what you say.Whether or not climate change is true they are controlling more of what we can do because human activities directly correlate to CO2 emissions.Soon I might not be able to use the fireplace because of carbon tax
It's actually too late. Too many things are convening. We have an enormous magnetic anomaly that is splitting into two separate weak spots. The AMOC is slowing down and has a 90% chance of collapse within 200 years. Iceland is losing 15 million tons of ice per day. The permafrost that is as old as the LGM is melting and revealing near perfectly preserved animals.Things wont slowly get warmer we may not even enter an age of no glaciers because when the AMOC stops then we return to pre-dryas climate and the permafrost swallows all of Scandinavia and northern Europe.
>>537963435We need to introduce the Mars tax ASAP!>i suspect global warming is a consequence of Sun activity. It probably is very subtle but causes just enough the 1% of radiation increase that warms up the planets.Remember that our Sun is at the mid-end stage of its life and will expand and consume all earth atmosphere and life in about 1 billion years. And that cannot be stopped with taxes or plastics.
>>537961614climate change isn't real because then i might have to drive a car that doesn't make vroooommvrooooommmm sounds and that makes me feel small like when my daddy used to yell at me :(
>>537965320Your argument was about a guy filling green houses with various gasses how's this not comparable?
>>537965670it's funny because there are EVs that play fake vroom sounds inside the compartment
>>537961614The hoax is that the diminished ice sheet on a planetary scale was caused by an increase of about 100 parts per million in atmospheric C02 over the past century, completely ignoring the fact that the same phenomena occurred on Mars. It's almost as if minute changes in the behavior of the star we orbit have a far greater impact on the weather than a atmospheric trace gas measured in hundreds of parts per million, basically too small an amount to even be accurately scientifically quantified.
>what sorcery is this?
>>537965634in most urban areas in italy using the fireplace has been illegal for quite a few years.you can get away with a pellet stove in some places, that's about it.
>>537963383It is though, you can test it easily in the lab. It would be naive to think that doesn't scale to planet since it's a closed system. >inb4 muh plantsThe atmospheric concentration is still increasing though.
>>537965787If we plant more trees everywhere then yes. Atmospheric CO2 concentration is still increasing though so it's a moot point.
>>537965176I think you have to compare it as if you were thirsty.You might endure half a day or a full day without drinking but then when shit gets serious and you're about to die of thirst that's when you actually put the effort of drinking giant amounts of water.But then if they actually do a rugpull in the future like "hey remember when we said EVs would save the planet? Turns out they're bad too so nlw you must pay for emissions" well, that's the most evidence they're fucking us as the planet is burning or they're fuckong us and the planet is fine
>>537965787If plants absorb so much CO2, why is biomass on earth decreasing?
>>537965394>Then how does the majority of the US naval fleet, especially submarines, work?batteries probably, it's super illegal to film naval "reactors" that's how seriously they take the charadealso the US navy is planning to switch to diesel submarines, no?
>>537965394>>537965908Just use plutonium-238 it isn't a nuclear reactor and gives you heat for centuries. Easy.
>>537961614I know that it's shitty bait with misleading question but just wanted to mention that record temperature in Poland was recorded 105 years ago at 40,2 celsiusexplains all the funny temperature graphs starting from the 70s
Climate change isn't a hoax, and everybody with more than room-temperature IQ knows that it has occured countless times in the past and that it is cyclical. The question is if and to what degree is climate change anthropogenic. Both people that don't believe in climate change and people that believe it is 100% anthropogenic are absolute retards.Also, everybody is talking about temperature and CO2 but nobody is talking about the change in pressure that has intensified over these past years. It's like we're in a pressure cooker, and that is actually pretty alarming because even low increases in average pressure have an immense effect on all manners of things. And if it were to drop back to nominal levels at a fast speed for some reason, you can expect a mass psychosis kind of event on top.also:> lust-provoking imageHerbs.
Hey, when the dinosaurs were still around, there was no ice at all around the poles. And no humans to cause it to be that warm. Weird, huh? Almost as if the planet warms and cools naturally over long enough periods of time.Also if you were actually serious about climate change, you'd be nuking china and india to stop THEIR polution, not the west, who've already cleaned up a lot.
>>537965800In Italy everything is permitted as long as there's not someone bothering you.You might have heard how in naples no one wears a helmet and that's partially due to the police not giving a fuck.I
No one is saying Climate change is a hoax, what is on discussion is how much of it is because of human activity. Why OP has to keep spamming the same retarded question over and over?
>>537965987What exactly did the measure? What place? What time of the day? Sun or shade? How high from the ground?Reliable measurements require a lot of standardization.
>>537966015So you want europe to be uninhabitable from permafrost like it was in the last 100k years?
>>537966036>No one is saying Climate change is a hoaxActually a lot of people are saying that.
>>537965882>Moot pointWhat? It's a self correcting systemMore CO2 begets plants who consume itThe earth is "greening" rn at the fastest speed in recorded history, meaning the rate of new "natural air filter" production is at peakAnd i know LLM isn't the best source but im lazy (picrel) and it's true
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?banks are still giving out loans to develop coastal properties.that's how you know that it's fake and gay.
Only morons would deny human activity has zero impact on the climate. The real question is what are we going to do about it when countries like China don't give a fuck. Or developing India. Or Africa. Or Asia. Etc. Perhaps is governments started mandating houses were built on stilts, people would think it's real.
>>537966015>over long enough periods of timeOk but it's happening in a rather short amount of time.
>>537965890IDK... Is it?Assuming it is, this goes into so many other things lol... Idk much about the biomass going either way or why, but nobody is passing laws changing my life because of it
>>537961614> climate changeThere’s natural climate change.There’s so called man made climate change.Blaming the massive changes in weather all on man made CO2 emissions is beyond disingenuous. There isn’t any replicable experiment proving that 0.1% change in concentration can lead to such changes.On the other hand, Earth has gone through at several climate change cycles, even before modern humans even existed. Sun activity, magnetosphere changes, volcanic activity are just some of the many factors that could make huge impact.We shouldn’t be worried about CO2 or anything like that. We should be working on solutions that will allow us to survive regardless of climate.
>>537966068A misunderstanding of the people associating climate change with "we must change our lifestyle because the world is dying" instead of >>537966003
Only a dumbass would think anything but the sun cycles. We are reaching the zenith and the micronova is coming. It will keep getting hotter and hotter until it bursts.At which point it would cool, our planet would be fucked and the poles would shift. We would enter a new ice age and the cycle begins anew. History shows this happening MULTIPLE TIMES, yet somehow its "we wuz causing this". Suck a cock niggers. Enjoy the next 20years while you can. None of you will make it
>>537966168>IDK... Is it?Yes. Satellite imagery is pretty good at estimating the amount of vegetation.
>>537966136You know exactly what we will need to do
>>537964075
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?seriously. just take the area of the change. collect temperature, air flow and humidity data. feed it into excel. get weather simulating software. feed it into table. is you can see a heat "pipe"(space lasers/radar) or "bubble"(atmospheric reflection weather controlled radars/lasers) which ignores Coriolis force. Then you can see the Epstein cabal killing you in a slow weather machine like Obama burned Hawaii islands to buy land for his bunker there.
>elites create global heat crisis in order to melt the ice on antarctica >to get to the alien pyramid which has a star gate>they lie to us so we panic and fund it
>>537963078>>537963119>Yeah because you outsourced most of production to Chinaso do we you fucking imbecile
>>537966044it was from some Royal German meteorologic institute in Upper Silesia, the record I mentioned pertains to record temperature in modern Polish borders
>>537961614It's actually getting cooler.
>>537966307Can satellite see underground biomass?When conditions are tough, extreme hot/cold with low humidity, life goes underground East euro crops are all in the ground or close to it. The desert looks dead but full of insects etcOfc lets not forget about all those Nazi's under Antarctica, when are we getting to the bottom of THAT?
>>537966197The issue is there's the evidence but it's not conclusive.We know for a fact without a doubt CFC gasses were harmful, if the UV radiation would've becomed intense you'd see a spike in cancer for everyone who wasn't black.As for CO2 emission they might be just a slow problem or just straight up hoax
If climate change is human or not does not matter.This is what is happening>there is a giant magnetic weakspot over the atlantic that is splitting into two, we are right on que for a polar excursion the magnetic field loses just 5-10% of its strength and the ozone layer is burned away from solar radiation, sunscreen stops being effective >the AMOC is slowing it is the ocean system that carries heat from the southern hemisphere to the northern and it is going to stop in the next 200 years.>The last time the AMOC started was 12k year ago the end of the younger dryas when a freshwater glacier broke into the ocean, before this it allowed for 1km tall permafrost to descend all of scandinavia and northern europe crushing everything underneath so no archaeology will be found>the natural jet streams above us are moving dramatically and already changing rainfall and humidity patterns which couple to the heat of the ocean to form a larger system at accelerates the loss of aridable land What it will look like is a sudden increase in the AMOC due to ice melt feedback and then as the peak ice melt flow reduces the AMOC collapses. It will dead cat bounce from its current downward trend rendering vast areas of the northern and southern hemisphere uninhabitable. Then a magnetic pole fracturing happens the magnetic field weakens and the ozone lawyer gets nuked and most electronics are nuked by the flux. Both of these occur within 500 years and they will be the great filter for most of humanity.
>>537966109>The earth is "greening" rn at the fastest speed in recorded historyGood but atmospheric CO2 is still increasing.
>hive mind circle jerk breadWell done, sheeple
>>537966666checkedearth is greening exactly from CO2. Do you know when it was the greenest in its history? when CO2 levels were 10x of todays. Of course, that probably wouldn't sustain humanity, as we are now
>>537966109The bigger problem is methane imo. Once the permafrost melts and spills its guts into the air we're screwed. Hope the greening continues though, that's a decent whitepill.
>>537966035all good but it doesn't change the fact that it's illegal.whether they are able to enforce it is another discussion, but there would be no "carbon tax" on using the fireplace since its use has been banned.
>>537961614You can't disprove a fact. There are climatic cycles recorded layers of sediments.You can argue that it's not man-made as the cycle we're in follows a predetermined pattern dictated by previous cycles. We were once a complete snowball in one of many extinction phases.Instead of taxing carbon, which is good for the flora, we can start planting forests which help stabilize the climate.
>>537966729I just hope it kills many browns in the process.
>>537966282>Only a dumbass would think anything but the sun cycles.https://robbreport.com/shelter/homes-for-sale/barack-obama-hawaii-vacation-home-for-sale-1236905377/https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/
>>537966760>MethaneThat's an energy source, we are nearly thereStinky but useful
>>537961614By proving that it comes from within the planet warming the sea from the core rather than air pollutants
>>537966800we would probably regress as civilization if it gets over 1%. Supposedly IQ drops with higher CO2
>>537965787>plants absorb c02 so therefore all the other pollutants and chemicals being pumped into the atmosphere don't matter
You should have listened to Greta while you had the chance
>>537966911yeahh. fuck those Chinks! Let ignore fucking North Stream with million Warm Effect Gas release. Or cheer the fucking war in South Asia Africa and Russia cuse those fucking drones, jets and rockets dont fucking billions tons of fucking fuel to bomb schools and weddings. WOOT WOOT!
>pyramids have stood in hot weather for thousands of years>but you're fucked if you live in essex in the summer because your house is going to sink
>>537967126Farts/CO2 isn't pollution
>>537966487>Can satellite see underground biomass?>life goes undergroundThat's horse shit. At the end of the day it's all photosynthesis.Also, you are arguing for the CO2 fertilization hypotheses. You should at least provide some evidence. So far you have provided zero. At least dig up some lab experiment to show how much photosynthesis increase we can expect per ppm CO2 increase.
>>537967421>Chew my foodNo
>>537961614we are still coming out of the last Ice Age. The earth does not usually have Ice Caps at all.
>>537962918Ironic that green politics = far left politics.
>>537966729>>537967473Once Greenland and Antarctica go green the CO2 will rapidly disappear I bet.
>>537962723They did the same at puncak Jaya in the year 2000.The glacier is still there 30 years on.Anyone who went to school in the 80a will remember being told that there would be no tropical glaciers by year 2000 if we didn't stop using spray deodorant and burning coal.
>>537962860Surprise surprise carbon based life flourishes with more available carbon.
>>537967265Explain the elevated amount of earthquakes and volcanic activity thenThe only thing gas does is change the breathable air
>>537967778>elevated amount of earthquakes and volcanic activity?
>NOOOO WE CANT LET THE ICE MELT THINK ABOUT THE HECKIN POLAR BEARINOS WHO WOULD SLAUGHTER YOU AND EAT YOU ALIVE IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE!
>>537963395Australia has more forest cover than you have country...My state has more km2 of coral than Germany has land.My states wet tropicl rainforest region is twice the size of the black forest Pick up a book retard
>>537963736Glacial retreat in Europe uncovers more artifacts from a 1000 years ago than can be explained by anything other than "during the Viking Age the glaciers were smaller than now" .
>>537961614It’s not a hoax. It’s not even a hoax that human activity is a contributing factor. What is a hoax is the political machine that tells you it has a solution.
>>537965305How were the dam Vikings so good at warming the earth so they could make settlement in now glaciated areas?
>>537968053You bloody tell em, Bruce
>>537961614why are these always CGI? why are there never actual photos?
>>537962899Your stupid ass had to go back before humans to claim humans dont affect climate. What a fucking retard.
>>537961614In the Romans time the earth was hotter than today, and they survive without AC
>>537965257>Calling things into doubt is badCalling things into doubt is how natural philosophy and player science came about, cattle.
>>537967200> DEMANDS LIVABLE CITIES> CLEAN WATER, AIR> HEALTHY CHILDREN> STILL IMPORTS JEETS
>>537961614Kill all polluting niggers, chinks, and fecaloids and I'll take you seriously. Nothing white people do can change the environment more than these tire-burning subhuman do on a daily basis.
>>537961614Nobody is stopping China from going full climate-accelerationist. Therefore it's not a real threat.
>>537965257>>denying basic physicsSo do you:>before mankind even existed, CO2 levels happily bounced between 200 and 2000>industrial revolution is century old, we are still at 400-ish ppm>we aren't creating that CO2 out of nowhere, all of it used to be atmospheric carbonMankind's contribution to the rise in CO2 is both dubious in origin (on the point that climatocultists just equate "increase" with "mankind", despite this shit having been a bouncing ball way before us), negligible (we are stills at levels where C3 plants are struggling, ffs) and powered by anthropocentric delusions (our tech & industrial means are nowhere near the level where we can actually dictate our shit to geological processes, and it's some HFY-tier daydreaming to manipulate people into thinking they are the sole responsible for those AND that they can do much about it).Case in point: the fucking ozone hole.Climatocultists always pat themselves about that "success".They forgot to mention non-White countries gave 0 fucks and kept using the "bad" gas in larger and larger quantities, that the concentration of it kept raising at the poles despite Whites throwing away tons of working machinery... and that the hole still closed despite the "human-made culprit" worsening. Proving that while mankind can voice its opinion, a few trillions tons of rock ultimately do whatever the fuck it want.This segue into my actual point: only Whitekind give a shit about this anyway, and when you are less than 7% of the world's population nothing you do will inflect anything much until you have the means to violently enforce it on the remaining 93%.Even in a dream climatocultists world where the amount of paper straws I use directly change the temperature outside; Chang, Rameesh and Ougadanba deciding to use 10 plastic straws that same day will overwrite everything. *That's* the problem that need to be solved first, no matter which one of us has the correct amount of alarmism about Earth.
>>537965305Human activity from where?
>>537961614You cant unprove someone's life whos lived outside whos worked outside and whos hobbies where all outsideThe world is changing drastically buddy I can assure you that, as a late birthday in my region you could set the clock to snowfall then even the deepest winter months would see hardly anything without intense chemical spraying, aircraft triggering falls etc etcIts all going down BIG time real fast aswell
>>537966109>Complex paradoxReminds me of that time I looked into canons during the American rooty tooty point and shooty squabble.>15000 privately owned canons>ALMOST 1000 state owned>AI says it's incorrect to say most canons were privately owned
>>537966612This actually sounds like something real compared to the microcuck talking about the sun exploding just a little.
>AAAAAAA IT'S HOT DURING THE SUMMER HELP ME NIGGERMANEvery fucking year
>>537961614Hell yeah, Northwest passage here we come! Panama canal fags on suicide watch!
>>537961614as soon as you prove nukes are real by dropping a nuke on our enemies, instantly ending all conflict forever or creating a nuclear reactor that isnt actually a steam engine
>>537963149Harvard has a groengineering department that is actively involved in spraying aluminum etc. into the sky to block the sun. Their website used to openly brag about it; it might still be available on the wayback machine. They are arrogant assholes.
>>537963149*geoengineering
>>537964099The left is not better.There's the right who will deny it even if their feet are burning. And the left who keep claiming human’s will be extinct in 10 years, retarded bottle caps will fix things, and the west is to blame for everything, even thought most pollution/emissions comes from places like China and India.And that is why the genuine issue is human effect on climate will never get addressed.
>>537965305>which seems pretty hard to denyits actually easy to deny, and hundreds of phd's have gone on record denying it, or at the very least saying the evidence does not support it. I personally fall in the camp that other drivers of climate (like the sun) are far more in control than any anthropormorphic input, and humans can do nothing about other than adapt.
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?it is painted as human driven event based on CO2 emissionsmeanwhilesome time ago (when there were no humanoids yet) Sahara changed from green to desertcontinents drift, this alone will change weather patterns in timeother planets are getting warmer too, with 0 human populationCO2 in prehistoric was much much higher, plants thrived then, making coal eventually
>>537963736The magnetic poles have also reversed multiple times in the past. For example, what is now Tibet/Utah used to be underwater; they have found fossilized coral and vast deposits of sea salts there.
>>537961614how do you prove it's man made and not natural?
>>537969991Tectonic shifts you nigger. They aren't directly related to magnetic poles and magnetic poles flipping don't magically make the earth spin differently. Do you get paid by the CIA to shit this board up, microcuck?
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>>537962918China produces 95% of everything in the world. The real question is... Why is there brown marks in the rest of the world if they don't produce anything???
>>537963753>They would never do that if they believed that the oceans would rice.do not ignore posible stupidity or greed in officialswe had many permits to build in near rivers cities on flood areas, and then was outcry when predictable flood came; twice alreadyand floods will be more often as more water in atmosphere from higher temps
>>537961614The climate today is different than the climate from 200 years ago.And the climate from 200 years ago is different to the climate from 400 years ago.Climate is always changing, sometimes slowly, and sometimes quickly.
>>537964099>against just basic physics>current climate model turns into spaghetti after few decades of simulation
>>537962964>>537965305Listen fr fr. If climate change was being caused by humans, and the rich elite knew this, and the governments wanted to stop it, then why are they funding massive data centers that use more electricity than the populations of their nations? Why are these data centers permitted to build gas burning generators that meet none of the environmental regulations? Why are the importing millions of third worlders, increasing their carbon footprint dramatically? Oh that's right, because they don't give a fuck about it, or it isn't real. Their solutions are all the same, take more control over people's lives. Take no action against the biggest contributors, by their definition, which are themselves.
Reminder that since the earliest days of photography people have taken pictures of coastal landmarks. To this day those same coastal landmarks remain almost 1:1 identical. There has been no rising of sea levels since the late 1800s.>b-b-but the tides No, tidal charting is not some stupid girl astrology, we know when high and low tide happen for every single day in the calendar year no matter what year it is. It is not a case of low tide in a modern photo somehow obscuring the effects of global warming. The sea level has not risen.If you, my beloved kiked brain reader, truly believed the graphs and projections, why do you not also believe financial institutions? No bank on the plant believes coastal property will be worthless in 10, 20, or even 30 years. The politicians you retards vote for love to buy coastal properties even. Curious. Kill yourselves. Dictated not read.
>>537961614By showing us the huge ice ball that is our true (((planet)))
>>537964075>That's why we need to kill all the fucking subhumanswhy it's always talmudic solution proposed of genocide of others, when problem is in OUR current model of consumptionsame effect as your proposed genocide would be ramping down consumption about 8 times, not easy, still doable, and infinitely more ethicaland remember it's same faggots in charge proposing this easy solution that created this problem solution is for, so very very likely they know shit still and are mistaken or they know stuff but have own agenda to finish, where you are just cattle culled
6 CO2 + 6 H2O + light energy C6H12O6 + 6 O2Carbon dioxide is absolutely necessary for plant life; don't people learn the equation for photosynthesis anymore?!?
>>537966307>Satellite imagerymaybe in terms of overall agrocultural surface it's good, but I call bullshit turning that into accurate biomass amount; not with pixels sized about 30cm
>>537967200>healthy children>on bug diet
>>537962918Because the goal is the destruction of western civilization using our suicidal empathy.>Kill yourself goy!sounds bad without>It will save the pandas!
>>537967421>At least dig up some lab experiment to showspeaking of is there any experiments showing CO2 effects on temperature?greenhouse effect comes from greenhouse that itself is walls of glass/plastic insulator, so maybe CO2 effect is neglible, just coincides in greenhouse from plants farting it at night to eat up in day with photosynthesis
>>537970796There's nothing unethical about self defense genocide. It's also easier to reduce population rather than consumption.
>>537967653>Anyone who went to school in the 80a will remember being told thatanyone who went to school in the early 80s remembers them being like we just got done predicting an ice age, we dont really know
>>537961614i don't, i just assume it and go about my day.
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?Man made climate change is a hoax. There are petrified forests on the North Pole, when they grew there the average temperature over the year was 13 degrees C. On the North Pole. We are eventually going to slide back in a new ice age which would be a mega disaster beyond normie comprehension.
>>537961614nice computer pic, bro.
>>537971951>EventuallyBefore any of you get this charitable and polite swede twisted, interglacial periods are brief, and their average length is between 9 and 15 thousand years. The current interglacial period began 12 thousand years ago.
>>537962899>The Earth's surface is now colder than during any point of the past 485 million yearsNo it was certainly colder during the multiple ice ages we had during the last 485 million years. The last snowball earth ice age was about 540 million years ago.
>>537971522>There's nothing unethical about self defense genocideafter slippery slope who gets to live and who not, it's basically survival of ones with biggest stick, with maybe slaves stock to breed withbasicaly back to animalistic instincts, which imho will results in another meaningless cyclecompare that to uniting and cooperation to combat climate change; we will likely not stop it, but we migh be able to mitigate outcomebut this is not possible with your paradigm that blind instinctual violence is best solution (it easiest and sometimes works, hence kept evolutionary) or current leadership thinking similarlywe are humans with working high concepts able brains, not animals tied to low instincts, we should work out optimal solution
>>537965305>which seems pretty hard to denywhy?you have zero evidence for it. all you have are some charts with numbers you cannot confirm, which were drafted by the same people who'll tell you that a man who cuts off his dick and puts on lipstick is a woman.you have absolutely zero reason to believe this, outside of some people telling you that it is that way, but conveniently, they make more money the more people belief them, so they have a strong motivation to lie.
>>537961614Follow the money
>>537961614Why were the islands near it not displaced? Im seriously questioning if the person who made this computer generated model knows anything about water displacement.
>>537961614>how do you disprove fashionable pseudoscience?with algebra
>>537961614by comparing summer melting and winter accumulation over time. the sizes of the ice sheets fluctuate. They melt in the summer and gain size in the winter. That was a particularly mild summer in 1984 and a particularly warm summer in 2016.What was it last year? We had a very early cold snap and it destroyed some of my garden last year, so I'd be interested to see what last year's melting looked like.
>>537972296Niggers got more money and NASA took the get to the moon. I also don't give a fuck about climate change because part of the problem is energy and we still don't have nuclear reactors everywhere instead of coal. What we get is Germany burning brown coal while shutting down nuclear reactors. It's a fucking meme. Genocide the third worlders, switch to nuclear energy and start exploring the solar system.
>"climate" scientists have financial incentive to produce doomsday predictions>green tech lobby want their products rolled out and alternatives banned so they get rich from the monopoly>elites and jews want to use it to extract more money from the goys and exert more control over their lives>crusty lefties defend the position to the death because any attempt to moral grandstand gets their little shecocks rock hardI'm just not buying it lads
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?You don't. Climate is probably changing.
>>537961987Probably the same time as the party switch?
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?Earth's climate is always changing. Do you believe it's supposed to always be the same?
>>537972777always cracks me up when someone tells me IRL that it's obvious, self-evident, easily proven and so on, as if they had actually sat in a laboratory and run a bunch of tests that gave them irrefutable evidence.when in reality, the only thing that happened was that someone who financially benefits from it told them that it is this way.you really only have to put on a lab coat and you can sell people everything>mom calls me and tells me she read an article that energy drinks during summer are dangerous!>reads out the part of the article she read>the "danger" is that they do not work against the drowsiness caused by heat>which is no danger at all>yet she read this and decided it's important enough to call me and tell me this shit
>>537961614The variations in temperature are insignificant.
>>537963617Thanks for the sub 100 IQ take
>>537962899Finland was under several kilometers of ice 10 000 years ago I highly doubt your claim.
>>537961614Clouds.
>>537972706>nuclear reactors everywhereiirc bottleneck for them is amount of fuel produced available
>>537961614We are coming out of an ice age.>pic related, it was only 20.000 years ago.Earth’s poles have historically more than not been ice free.So go fuck yourselves fucking retards.
>>537969628*goyengineering
>>537961614If the people who believed climate change was as bad as they say they wouldn't be living in densely populated coastal cities. They would also propose much more draconian measures than some taxes and regulations. Something like executing the worst polluters for crimes against humanity.
>>537961614>how do you prove climate change is a hoax?the part where politicians ask money for it is the hoax, retard
>>537961886>>537963617>>537972795This is really dumb and makes global warming supporters look intelligent by comparison.
>>537965176>Existential problems require existential solutionsit's not an existential problem in our life time, it just keeps getting worse for the next generations
Imagine everyone ITT getting publicly executed and their rotting corpses displayed as a warning like in good old times
>>537975133that kind of things don't work because the politicians are retarded subhumans who are the ones causing the problem in the first place with their misused tax money literally preventing the population at large adapting to the changes themselvesfucking retarded subhuman cretin
there are 4 seasons in a yearthere are cold time and hot time in a lot wider time bracket.approx from 3rd century until 20th century it was cold time. and now it's hot time.So climate changes like a pendulum swinging. and it's hot side.
>>537963149>factory sprays a million tons of aluminum particles into atmosphere>Hell yeah! Economy! Freedom!>nerdy science guy sprays 1/1000th of that>NOOOO WERE DOOMED HES GONNA KILL US ALL
>>537961614>climate change is a hoaxwrong questionclimate does indeed changeits the man made part being used for grift and tyranny that is falsethings are going to get hotter for a while, then the bottom falls out and you'll be burning furniture to survivethe question is whether you do it for free, or having to pay a carbon tax and evading police IR drones looking for unlicensed heat sources
>>537961614it's not whether the climate is changing it's whether it's changing because of specific human behaviors
>>537961614It's just very convienint that it ties into the great reset perfectly. You will not even own a car and be a 3rd world energy drink sipper.
>>537961614It isn't man-made. They will keep telling you it is.
>>537963648perhaps it is just a normal thing ice caps do from time to time
>>537963617>At what point between 1984 and 2016 did summer and winter switch places?Bottom lineAt no point between 1984 and 2016 (or any modern years) did summer and winter reverse in the same location. The seasonal system is physically locked to Earth’s tilt and orbital geometry.
>>537961614Obviously it isn’t the way you’ve phrased your question.You would have to prove that someone has some self interest or motivation to get others to believe that global climate change is real. Receiving grants. Receiving money to study weather patterns doesn’t prove it’s a scam on its own. You would need to prove that grant money never served its intended purpose. That would obviously require validated insider statements; not just crap you read on line. You might also try using valid sources to compile weather data and showing trends. You’ll also need an explanation as to why current weather patterns are well within the norm. It’s going to be a climb for sure. People have eyes and memory so it’s not all that difficult finding ol timers like myself who remember very different weather patterns from today to fifty or more years ago.
>>537961614Long before humans even existed, there were forests on Antarctica and no glaciers anywhere ... and life thrived.Climate change (i.e. burning fossil fuels) is necessary to correct the atmosphere for life to continue. During the last ice age CO2 levels got dangerously close to being so LOW that plants would stop being able to photosynthesise. We need to return all the carbon from fossil fuels to the atmosphere for life to continue. More CO2 = more plants = more animals = more humans/higher standard of living.We're also still coming out of the last ice age. The Earth is going to warm no matter what we do. Climate change is real, humans are contributing to it, and it's a good thing for all life on Earth. What humans need to do is adapt - that's what we do better than any other form of life.
>>537962723Being bad at predicting weather doesn’t make the weather itself a hoax just because the weather doesn’t want to cooperate with your faulty data.
>>537961614Because it went away when people were no longer paid by the government to talk about it.
>>537963383Hot air rises, so the air warmed by the sun floats up and is replaced by cooler air from somewhere like the ocean. Greenhouses work by simply not allowing the hot air to leave so it just gets hotter and hotter. That's it.
>>537963459You are a dick sucking retarded faggot.
>>537962784The real hoax is big business telling us nothing can be done so keep consuming and polluting. I’ve seen changes in environmental policy that absolutely affected climate. Remember when acid rain was a thing and most newly produced vehicles began blistering and rusting as they left the showroom floor? I don’t see that as frequently. Back in the 90’s, the Kanto plains (Tokyo) were enveloped in a steely grey haze. Where one once had a clear view of Mt Fuji, there was only grey on the horizon. Japan started limiting driving, got a better handle on factory emissions. Within 3 years, you could catch glimpses of Mt Fuji. Today, most drivers have hybrid and electric vehicles in Tokyo. Seeing Fuji on the horizon is commonplace now.Point is, climate change may be inevitable but we don’t have to compile the misery by thinking there’s little we can do. If it has to be hot, at least let the air be clean enough to breathe without having a coughing fit.
>>537961614>look at this cgi imageKill self
"Beaches in Florida are worthless" said financial institute or US senator ever
>>537974075Look at how much Sweden has grown in a few thousand years from the effect of post glacial rebound. Pretty cool
>>537961614>how do you prove co2 driven climate change is a hoax?this one is pretty easy, all it requires is to look into the details and you see fraud, graft, and corruption everywhereClimategate showed us that the people committing this fraud are willing to falsify their efforts if it means they can prove co2isms
>>537961614Fake.
>>537977876>Climategate showed us that the people committing this fraud are willing to falsify their efforts if it means they can prove co2ismslet me correct this, it showed us that when the data went in a direction they didnt want it to go, they manipulated things until it didliterally 50 years of failed prediction, all the new models are crap so you never see them referenced, but they're still happy to trot out the fuckin hockey stick that was destroyed 20 years ago as proof they're right
>>537961614Climate change isn't a hoax but the people in charge of "fixing" it are fraudsters and nothing they propose serves any purpose other than to make their benefactors rich while never addressing the problem. A very large part of the solution, if we are to believe that anthropogenic climate change is real, is to make our own products that don't break every time you look at them and dissolve this stupid "throw away" culture.However, that is never a solution and we all just have to die or something.
>>537978480The biggest fix to climate change is to end migration and globalism.
>>537978011yeah man everything is perfectly fine. totally.
