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>>537964256
i'm so fucking hungover man
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The notion that certain people mustn't be allowed to vote because of how you expect them to vote is contrary to the concept of democracy.
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>>537964483
>The notion that certain people mustn't be allowed to vote because of how you expect them to vote is contrary to the concept of democracy.
so why aren't kindergarteners allowed to vote? Isn't that contrary to the concept of democracy?

Please fix now
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>>537964614
let zoo animals vote too, seeing how they can predict football games
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>>537964614
>Why can't I fuck children?
Children are different from adults such that we can't apply the same rules to them. This may be shocking to you but it's actually standard across all human societies.
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>>537964685
>Children are different from adults such that we can't apply the same rules to them. This may be shocking to you but it's actually standard across all human societies.
children are different from adult women
adult women are different from adult men

"adult" is a label that is not biological, but rather is legal.

Men and women do not function the same way, and do not seek the same things in life, purely on a biological/hormonal level. So grouping them into a single category makes no sense.

Is it a scientific fact that women by their biological nature vote with the interest of the greater common good for the rest of society, even if their vote can harm them in the short term? Or is it an assumption that has no scientific backing, that women have the common good of society in their hearts, and are not voting entirely based on individualistic self-preservation instincts?

Civilisation was built by the blood and sweat for men, for thousands of years. And now we are handing power over this construction, to a class of humanity that had never bled for its creation.

>actually standard across all human societies
We do things this way because it is heckin' 2026
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>>537964256
Agreed
>>537964483
thinking that niggers, jeets, jews, and bitches are fully human and should have the same rights as white men is naive, childish, delusional and stupid.
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>>537964256

Very cheerful OP pic. :)
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>>537964761
>"adult" is a label that is not biological, but rather is legal.
That's nonsense. A kindergartner is a child and not an adult and that is a physiological distinction no matter how much you quibble.
You can't fuck children, so get over it, Mohammad.
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>>537964483
...;no? thats why 5 years olds can't vote, because they re unable to think.

Literal retards with down syndrome have the right to vote. Think about that.

If retards can vote then demcoracy will be destroyed therefor ei doesnt exist. But anyway evenn if voting was perfect demcoracy isnt even democracy u just elect a dictator once every 5 years among the list of dicators decided by the rich and powerful

second turn should have 5 candidates not 2. alliances against whatever fuck with democracy. in france leftists vote for capitalism. it isnt working
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Okay. So when is this big societal collapse coming then? Because standards of living seem to be improving everywhere.
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>>537964861
>A kindergartner is a child and not an adult
definition of what is a child and what is an adult changed through thousands of years of human history, which is the best proof that it is not a biological class, but a legal/social class.

The definition of what is a woman or a man has not changed ever, because it has always been biologically self evident.

>You can't fuck children, so get over it, Mohammad.
nobody in this entire thread ever mentioned anything about fucking children, except you.
The stench of projection is in the air, pedo.

this thread is about voting rights, not about your sexual desires
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>>537964861
ok so not everyone can vote thanks for the confession fuckhead. becayuse they r echildren isnt an argument. why cant a children vote? because they re unenlightened? abotu wa smuch as women of 25 years old. or old fucks with alzeheimer
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>>537964976
You're the one arguing that the only difference between children and adults is law.
It's so obvious, like why do you think they're so much shorter and weaker than adults, and struggle to speak and do anything as well as any adult?
It's like that meme; you can't argue with people who deny plain reality.
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>>537964256
>>537964483
>>537964614
>>537964648
>>537964803
Yeah bro democracy is totally real and joe shmo decides who gets a turn with the guns and money printer.
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>>537965072
>like why do you think they're so much shorter and weaker than adults
there's plenty of 30+ year old women who are shorter and weaker than 15 year old boys.

now watch how you will turn this statement into another pedo acusation, as you have no arguments left regarding voting criteria
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>>537964685
>children are different from adults
Physically, perhaps. Adult women are mentally children.
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>>537965147
How many kindergartens do you know who are taller and stronger than adult women (assuming that you recognize the term adult; it's all legalese to you after all)?
It's your damn example.
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>>537964256
if you're concerned with women not taking accountability, then taking their vote away would definitely make them less accountable because then they know they don't have to be responsible if they're not being treated as adults

only way that women's can change is if their behavior is directly pointed out to them
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>>537965246
>How many kindergartens do you know who are taller and stronger than adult women (assuming that you recognize the term adult; it's all legalese to you after all)?
how man adult women do you know who are taller and stronger than adult men?
It's your damn example.
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>>537965265
>only way that women's can change is if their behavior is directly pointed out to them
it doesn't work that way
women's natural conflict-handling mechanisms are aimed at gaslighting everyone, including themselves.

You live in a generation where single 40+ year old women unironically believe they are single because they are too successful.
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>>537965390
it literally has to, there is no other way.
they are humans that have to adapt to the situation. also women crave masculine influence. they need men to tell them they're flawed. but since simps won't do that, you also have to have a society where prostitution is legal, so simps aren't constantly retarded and can get their rocks off. a man is less likely to be a simp if he's got post-nut clarity
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>>537965609
>they are humans that have to adapt to the situation
they won't

because the forbidden truth nobody is allowed to say, is that the natural biological hierarchy is not:

men/women
^
children

it's actually:

men
^
women
^
children
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>>537964685
The standard across all human societies has been to rigorously control women's actions and give them very limited structural powers.
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>>537964256
The only people who should have voting rights are people who have 3 or more preceding generations that lived in the country, who own land - and particularly only land inside the country, and have children who all live in the country. If you own a company and you outsource or hire migrants, you are disqualified from voting. If your children live in other countries or if you own land in other countries, you're disqualified.
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>>537965678
>they won't
they certainly won't if they're not forced to face the reality of their behavior

you've been talking with others about comparing women to children, but what you're really doing is treating women like mental patients.

if women are as mentally ill as we fear, it isn't a question of voting, because it won't matter. the species is doomed if the sexual dimorphism causes mental illness in half the population.
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>>537964861
So children can't vote because their biological differences in decision making make the idea intolerable to you.

The average fifteen year old white male is exponentially smarter than the average black woman. Should either vote?
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>>537965746
This would disqualify at least 40% of whites while allowing the majority of niggers to vote due to discounted and free housing deals combined with how rapidly they breed.
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>>537965746
that's actually retarded because children who are spoiled brats often grow up to be dogshit in leadership positions
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>>537965776
>you've been talking with others about comparing women to children, but what you're really doing is treating women like mental patients.
I never said they are mental patients.
A mentally or physically unstable organism is one that cannot sustain its own existence within its natural limits.

Women can perfectly sustain their existence within their natural biological limits.

The problem is that maintaining society/statehood/civilisation is not part of a woman's biological scope. It is a man's natural job.
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>>537964483
Democracy is obviously a failure if we let women, especially jungle bunny minority women, vote. But I'll take solace in knowing I never cast a vote in this system.
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>>537965902
>i never said they are mental patients
not directly, but you treating them as if they are. when i suggested they be confronted with their behavior, you said that they wouldn't be able to change or handle it.

even children can change. they have to to grow up. children can grow up to be adults. you are essentially saying that women can't change by being told specific examples of toxic femininity, and that means they are mentally ill if they are incapable of changing or developing
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>>537965966
>not directly, but you treating them as if they are. when i suggested they be confronted with their behavior, you said that they wouldn't be able to change or handle it.
because they are not designed to change or handle it.

Mental instability of physiologically illness is a situation when you fail to do what you were naturally designed to do.

A healthy woman doesn't fail at what she was designed by nature to do.
But building/maintaining civilisation/country/society was never part of what she was nature designed her for.

It's the equivalent of putting gasoline into a diesel car.
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>>537965902
>it's a man's natural job
anon, women have to be held accountable or we lose 50% of the potential of our entire species. that is why islam will lose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_diplomats
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>>537965776
Women evolved to successfully act within a pretty strict system of physical boundaries enforced by males to varying degrees related to them.

They succeed in this niche, both reproductively, and in their measurable statistical negative stress behaviors.
Take them too far out of this environment, and their behaviors expand endlessly in search of the physical boundary they're evolved to exist inside; they just bloat, go insane, kill their children, and anaesthesnitize themselves with whatever drugs are available.

The proposition that they are "mentally ill" because they cannot successfully statistically occupy the position of this made up non gendered image you have of a "Person" (I.e. a man) is patently absurd. A fish is not "broken" because it cannot climb a rope, no matter how many madmen have insisted that all animals have a "normal baseline" of being able to climb a rope.
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>>537966041
>women can't handle statecraft

you would make a horrible father of a daughter because you would tell your daughter that she is doomed to being a breeder, which you also simultaneously compain about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_diplomats
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>>537965966
>when i suggested they be confronted with their behavior, you said that they wouldn't be able to change or handle it.
They're not men. You want them to be men.
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>>537966078
>doomed to being a breeder,
I can't think of a phrase more antithetical to reason than this.
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>>537965966
>>537966041
there is scientific data that women are vastly more agreeable than men are, which leads to direct consequences for their behaviour and performance at work.

Evolution, through hundreds of thousands of years, optimised Female genes for maintaining children, maintaining harmony, maintaining homes, and relying on men to solve problems.

Statecraft, warfare, defence, legality, crisis-management has absolutely NOTHING to do with what Female genes were designed for.
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>>537966061
that's retarded because you can say the same thing about men

men are good at hunting and gathering, but now that there's technology and the agricultural revolution that became the industrial revolution is now a technological revolution, men can't operate like they used to. OH WELL I GUESS WE SHOULDN'T LET MEN VOTE

the environment changed. see? so simple. no one should vote. problem solved. pack your bags, guys. we're done here.
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>>537966104
you want women to be less than human

>>537966126
mayflies and locusts breed profusely. does that make them reasonable?
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>>537966078
>doomed to being a breeder
that's like telling a man he is doomed to be a warrior

oh how horrible

>you would make a horrible father of a daughter because you would tell your daughter that
I would tell my daughter that if she truly wants to be happy, she needs to pursue her natural female telos, and stop pretending to be a man.
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>>537966148
>men don't have the genes for maintaining children, harmony, homes

you're retarded.
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>>537966190
>you want women to be less than human
being human has nothing to do with having voting rights
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>>537966043
Islam doesn't seem like it's losing.
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>>537966151
Except mine has to do with decision making and yours is not only wrong in the sense of a relative metaphor, but wrong factually, AND people who neither hunt nor harvest or perform similar enough tasks ARE all mentally ill.


Women evolved to occupy a social condition of being physically controlled by men.
"Men evolved to hunt" is not a valid comparison, for reasons that should be obvious to anyone.
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>>537966078
Aren't women incapable of understanding anything about the philosophy of politics? I guess it's appropriate we should let them tear down the system that gave them any power that's only purpose for them is paid penile entertainment. Like what honestly have women brought the US politically that's any good. Surely instead of waving the flag of democracy you can come up with good things women have created with their power
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>>537966236
>you're retarded.
amazing counter-argument, tell us more
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New Jeetcel thread just dropped!
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>>537966205
>how horrible
yeah, turns out dying for the profits of the weapons industry is in fact pretty stupid and useless. go die for israel, buddy. go be a "warrior"
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>>537966292
you're retarded

i know, it's still an amazing argument isn't it?

by the way, men can take care of children and maintain a home. :)
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>>537966190
>you want women to be less than human
I don't accept your suicidal idea that men and women are nearly identical.

>mayflies and locusts breed profusely
You've got mayflies and locusts in your fucking skull, that's a meaningless comparison. That's like saying "oh you have one dollar, and you want two dollars, so you also must want twice as much PISS in your TOILET because that's like, double a thing that exists!!!"

You're really bad at this.
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>>537966310
>yeah, turns out dying for the profits of the weapons industry is in fact pretty stupid and useless. go die for israel, buddy. go be a "warrior"
again, where is the conversation about women's voting rights?
Are you now implying women are jews or what? I'm confused, lil buddy
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>>537966239
talk about antithetical to reason

you're definitely retarded
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>>537966310
Why don't we send women to die for the weapon and oil industry? Seems fair
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>>537966332
>by the way, men can take care of children and maintain a home. :)
and women can fight wars, and dying in trenches, somewhere in between chaging their tampons.

And you know what it is usually called, when women die as soldiers? - perversion.
And you're full of it.
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>>537966353
>you are human ONLY if you have voting rights
so children are not human then, understood.
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>>537966353
>Every human NEEDS to vote!
>Every 64 IQ black woman with three parasitic brain infections NEEDS to vote!
>Except 17 year old white males don't need to vote they're widdle babeees.
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I think we'll see w*men's rights revoked in our lifetimes. This shit is unsustainable.
Only men over 25 should vote.
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>>537966413
If black gorilla women don't decide my future the US will crumble! Thomas Jefferson said so.
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>>537964685
Women are different from adults
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>>537966372
>>537966383
>>537966405
>>537966413
60% of the STEM degrees in iran are held by women and iran is in one of the most powerful economic positions on the planet because they have technology and women in science.

the soviet union won by the skin of their teeth against the nazis specifically because women were helping at the front

kill yourself.
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>>537964256
>in a single sentence
"17% fewer neocortical neurons and 33% fewer synapses."

"The average numbers of neocortical neurons were 19 billion in female brains and 23 billion in male brains, a 16% difference. In our study, which covered the age range from 20 years to 90 years, approximately 10% of all neocortical neurons are lost over the life span in both sexes. Sex and age were the main determinants of the total number of neurons in the human neocortex, whereas body size, per se, had no influence on neuron number." - ["Neocortical neuron number in humans: effect of sex and age" (1997)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9215725/)

"Considering all layers, men also have a significant higher average synaptic density of 12.9 × 10^8 per cubic millimeter, whereas in women it was 8.6 × 10^8 per cubic millimeter. Thus, there was a 33% difference in synaptic density between men and women." - ["Gender differences in human cortical synaptic density" (2008)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2567215/)
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>>537966754
Iran has a bunch of women with fake degrees in stem? That proves women can at least turn the US into Iran. Quite the accomplishment
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>>537964483
>implying Ancient Greeks didn't know how women would vote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
>The play portrays a scenario where the women of Athens assume control of the government
>In a different scene, a young girl waits for her boyfriend Epigenes to arrive as an old woman is out looking for a date. They exchange vulgar insults and go inside their homes as Epigenes enters the scene, lamenting the new laws governing sex. He and the girl both speak of their desire for one another, but are interrupted by the old woman. Citing the new law, the old woman attempts to force Epigenes to sleep with her first. As the young girl and the old woman fight over the boy, two more old women enter and drag him away against his will.
>Praxagora then goes on to explain the details of the new government to Blepyrus. She proposes banning all ownership of private wealth and establishing equal pay for all and a unified standard of living. She further explains that people will no longer have a need for personal wealth as all basic needs will be met by the common fund. She further adds that men and women will be free to sleep with anyone they want, so long as they first sleep with the uglier and older members of the opposite sex. Parental responsibilities will be shared by the community as children will no longer know their fathers. Slaves will work the fields, but are now banned from having sex with free men, and prostitutes will be put out of business.
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Why is it that female ability is never doubted by someone truly impressive, and it's instead always some 4chan loser? Why do you never hear accomplished, important or impressive men do it?
inb4 Schopenhauer or some other writecel faggot who produced nothing of value to anyone
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>>537967182
It's odd how capitalists comes here too and say "well it's okay if the system is broken be wise I got mine"

Well I guess it's okay the system is broken be wise women are getting theirs. If the system is just some huge payout to minorities then they can run the place
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>>537966754
>iran is in one of the most powerful economic positions on the planet because they have technology and women in science.
According to who?
On both counts lmao.

>soviet union won by the skin of their teeth against the nazis specifically because women were helping at the front
The Soviet Union did not "win" WW2, America did. And the only reason the soviets did not crumble into ash was because of lend lease.
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>>537967182
It was doubted by 99.99999% of the men in human history.
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>>537967789
You'd think if we actually lived in some kind of utopia women would get special civics tard classes
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>>537964256
no, it's not volatile or unstable, it's just female nature. violence arouses them so they vote for more violence.
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>>537967313
>women are getting theirs
what exactly are they getting? a lifetime of being heavily medicated due to historical high levels of mental illness and low levels of happiness and overall life satisfaction? being used as cum dump by men who don't give a shit about them then being ignored by all of society for the rest of their lives once they age past 25? dying alone and childless then being eaten by cats?
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>>537967182
impressing goys is all smoke and mirrors, in this case the smoke includes yass queen slay type shit.
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>>537968038
What they voted for? Jews and their gay friends feeding them pills and boss women propaganda. Duck loops and holes in their head, but at least they can buy overpriced Chinese garbage on amazon
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>>537964928
??
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>>537964483
You are getting it now! Fuck democracy
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>>537964256
I don’t trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn’t die.
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>>537964256
You can't say that sentence to women, they won't understand
It has to be something they themselves can wrap their head around
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>>537964256
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>>537964483
Democracy has always been a retarded idea that doesn't work beyond tiny groups.
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>>537969528
Don't tell anyone it was maybe race based and if you tried to lie about your race you were sold into slavery
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>>537964483
That's what we're saying
Democracy is fucking retarded
We're directly saying, "Not everyone deserves to vote"
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>>537964360
Have you tried not being so gay and fat?
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>>537964483
Ukraine is not a democracy. Ukraine has never been a democracy. And Ukraine will never be a democracy.
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>>537966078
>Doomed to be a breeder
wtf, is that what you call your mother?
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>>537966754
And women are allowed to vote in Iran or..



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