Picrel is the current META for modern warfare. You think your fleet of F16s means anything in the eyes of a drones operator? You have a mesh network of satellites that gives you a 360° view of the ground? That’s neet… meanwhile Muhammad just blew the legs off another infant while taking a shit 6000 miles away from the battlefield using his nifty FPV drone operator goggles.Face it, we do NOT have a reliable strategic counter to drone warfare in 2026. At any moment, we could face nine thousand 9/11-tier terrorist surprise attacks on American soil… and there’s not a Goddamn thing we could do about it.Discuss the political implications.
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>>537971201Shoot them
>>537971305>You missed every shot and your gun jammedNow what?
they were saying the same thing about crossbows when they were first used in mass. we will be ok. though i do wish war would return to just two groups of guys beating each other with sticks.
Modern war is so fucking gay it's unbelievable.
>>537971507I blame the Ukrainians and Russians. They’ve normalized this by abusing drones and posting the footage to TikTok like absolute psychopaths. Now every mentally ill sandnigger is just waiting until they get to use it on western troops.
I don't see the difference between a drone and a mortar shell. However, I saw the drones flying over moscow and they're laughably big loud and slow. One of them couldn't go a mile without being filled with bullet holes from the public. Also, I find the entire idea that a drone carrying a small explosive takes out a tank, but whatever. History says you have to shoot tanks with shaped charges at many machs to defeat thick tank armor. Not just blow up a bomb next to one. But what do I know!?
>>537971874Could go a mile in the USA I meant to say.
>>537971201>meanwhile Muhammad just blew the legs off another infant I think you mean Tavor or Ishmael.
>>537971201Sure, man.
>>537971371Same thing that happens in infantry combatYou prob gon die
>>537971371Do a fortnite dance before you're turned into swiss meat
>>537971201jeets and jeehati goat fuckers have been using toy drones to drip napalm molotov on houses for decades
Just rely on Toyota Hiluxes with anti-air gun pintles, which consists of quadruple full auto shotguns
>>537971507Old fashioned war was pretty fucking gay too, big sweaty piles of guys poking each other with sticks.
>>537971201Face it, we do NOT have a reliable strategic counter to drone warfare in 2026. AtVollyball nets, pool skimmers, and giant fans.
>>537972617>Toyota Hiluxes with anti-air gun pintles, which consists of quadruple full auto shotgunsplease let that be this timeline.please let that be this timeline.please let that be this timeline.please let that be this timeline.please let that be this timeline.please let that be this timeline.
>>537971201develop a battlebot type drone tv show
>>537971305This.
They probably have spider drones by now. Hiding while jumping on you or chasing you, aside from the flying drones. The chinese use a swarm that attacks anything in group.
>>537971201You sound as retarded as Biden talking about “you can’t fight F-15s”. You fight drones the same way you’d fight “F-15s”.
>>537971201Well the first thing we need to do is stop voting for traitors who are literally, geniunely, agents of a foreign government
>>537972617>Max effective range 50mHow many trucks will we need hue?
>>537971305Russia and Ukraine have been trying that for years without much luck.
We need reusable drone-hunter drones. Imagine a wing of half-scale, unmanned P-51s circling the battlefield, dogfighting quadcopters and strafing any enemy that gets close, with an anti-tank missile in place of its bomb.
>>537971201You don't invade
>>537973184Whoa..... thats so cool!So what happens when someone spams slightly cheaper drones and they are overwhelmed?
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>>537973355Samson Protocol.
>>537972822why overcomplicate things
>>537973519AHEAD is for having your shotgun blast happen 3km out, not at the muzzle.
>>537971201I will not tell you
>>537971201>High speed flak type weapons>A.I. trained targeting systems>It's OGRE.>"No we'll just send a SWARM of 100 drones!">-Installs several anti-drone auto targeting flack guns>Each drone shot down costs 3-20k>Each round of flak costs 20$YOU DO THE MATH
>>537973519>Max effective range 50m>>537973703>Lowers approach altitude to limit engagement time>Drone launched penaidsWhoops the trailer mounted system is engaging a cloud 180 degrees off axis from the second wave of incoming drones
When both sides have the same tech then you just enter a tit-for-tat conflict. Eventually this leads to both sides becoming willing to enter negotiations as they get sick of the retarded conflict that offers no hope for strategic victory for either side.It just means the end of a power being able to beat enemies into humiliating submission. Which will actually give rise to real political solutions. That, or the retards just go into perma tit-for-tat warfare and we grind down into another dark Age (just with killer drones this time).
>>537973968This is why you attack supply lines. Logistics always decides the outcome of war between equal powers.
>>537971201TOTAL AI BATTLESPACE AWARENESS GLOBALLYTRACKING LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT MOVES FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHERCONSTANT TARGETING FROM THE FACTORY ONWARD
>>537973184>Inb4 drone-hunter hunter drones
>>537973828>>537973637>implying there is only one squad shooting>what is defense in depth>what is accuracy by volume>implying small kamikaze fpvs will waste battery going 10000ft+, present itself 3km out instead of sneaking around>implying drone can do stand off attack at more than 50m. even RPG metal jet don't go that far
>>537971201> what do we do about these fucking things? it's not like there's a bazzilion of dollars in research on how to deal with those thingsI'm sure bunch of /pol/tards will show those defense megacorporations the way
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>>537973703>Each round of flak costs 20$Not in NATO it won't, sweaty. They'll need to have GPS, laser and starlink guidance and use every rare earth metal under the sun. Minimum cost per shot can't be less than $20k otherwise there will be a shareholder revolt.
>>537973184The fixed wing biplane is the obvious solution. Bring back the red baron.
>>537972820I want her to be real
>>537974178>The only threat are FPV quadcoptersBut sure lets go with FPVs;Go pattern a shotgun some timeDispersion and drop are the largest issuesEven with specialized shells youre maybe touching 75mKeep in mind youve got 3-7 seconds to detect, pull out shotgun, aim and fire effectively depending on drone size/weight. If its a hornet or the more advanced lancets they have terminal AI guidance and will just dive ~200km/h on you from ~500m. Please let me know how you intend to shoot that with a 50m shotgun. >>537974283Eh the phalanx rounds with self destruct are like $30 its not unfathomable. The issue is that the guns themselves have a short range and a small useful protective bubble.
>>537974048I think even that will be marginalised. Simply because the supplies needed to offer a costly defense are becoming smaller and smaller. You are not needing to transport vast quantities of liquid fuel, lead ammunition, etc. You just need to transport enough drones to various key points. And you can use drones to transport drones. You can even have local armouries producing the small explosives that go on the drones.
>>537971201Get good at drone simulators so that when you get conscripted for WW3 you can be the guy flying the drones instead of the guy dodging the drones.
>>537973519your not hitting anything with these especially with your twig jappy arms
>>537972820Sauce?
>>537971201Why didn't they make an attachment to the AK grenade launcher that shoots out a net?
>>537974620Because nets have an effective range of like 30m? >Here catch a bomb less than 30m from your face
>>537971305Drone eagles that speed up to 200+ mph to strike the other drones.
>>537974288Checked and Heil. Once again, we will see the Flying Circus.
>>537971201>Muhammad just blew the legs off another infant Jew post. Thread hidden
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>>537974782Thanks, im glad nobody in russia/ukraine has access to google.Modern drones like the Hornet have AI terminal guidance that keeps the target centered in its field of view using onboard computers. So by the time it enters the jamming range, its too late
You counter then with your own drones
Nobody cared when the gringos were doing it. Seemed it only became a problem for the jews when the drone stopped costing 5 million and each missile a year's salary
>>537971751>Now every mentally ill sandnigger is just waiting until they get to use it on western troops.Fuck off kike. Brainstorm with your zogbots
>>537971874They are putting RPG rounds and shaped charges on the drones
Hezbollah have a way of firing anti tank missiles of drones, means they cant be thermally targeted and are lot harder to stop, air launchedThe downed US F15 pilot apparently came out the other day saying he seen a jellyfish drone formation, most likely a mesh networked drone swarm, this probably operates at a quick area defense setup, essentially a flying minefielddrone warfare has done something we havent seen since the machine gunits handed the ability back to all to conduct warfareIf jets can be nullified by air to air drones then no-one has to fear stand off munitions as much
>>537971201>Spam drones>winGayest meta in historyNow the more flying shit pipes you build/ buy from Chinkaw , and spam at the enemy at once the more you winThat's the real arms race The future will be billions of autonomous AI-drone swarm turning whole continents into unlivable kill zones.
>>537975497isnt all war just spamming the meta until you win? it was never pretty.
>>537971201*Casually carpet bombs Muhamed's extended family tree*Oh no! Anyway.Seriously these things just "work" because we refuse to use known solutions for moral "reasons".Drones might be cheap but it is literally a lot cheaper to leave it out and just drop the payload by the thousands.There's a reason artillery is still king, drones are just good for propaganda via the FPV stuff.And there is of course also an obvious reason why the poor and desperate shitholes keep resorting to them...
>>537974197Based
>>537971201Well the would have to get the drones and explosives to America. The most effective drones (i.e. cannot be jammed) are optically wire guided and have a relatively short range. I am not saying drones do not present a problem but the retaliation from our F-16 would certainly discourage a nation-state from using this as their primary attack method.
sounds like we need to retvrn to tradition and bring back static aerial cope cages
>>537976047what happens when you have an effective drone counter measure to jetsIran was and is going to continue working on this and its not as hard as you would think
>>537976172Iran has yet to manage anything impressive outside of online propaganda campaigns though.Maybe hope for the Chinese or the Russians.
>>537972617Command and conquer generals zero hour >Quad on the floor
>>537976273Iran has been developing drones since the 80'sAnd they have managed to fend of the US and IsraelThe air to air principle is easy and they already have what they need, heavier rotor drones for static defense and jet drones for targetedAll they need is heat seeking missiles because all jets systems are made to react to them from groundWhen air launched it completely changes what options you have to defend
>>537976547...Managed to fend off... by facetanking the whole deal and losing their entire leadership and playing for time with negotiations... while still getting regularly casually sodomised by its enemies for breaking an unilaterally imposed ceasefire...?This is what i mean when i refer to their propaganda being the only impressive thing.The very fact that they are forced to play along to Trump's ceasefire is an act of submission, the harsh punishments suffered a humiliation each, the futile retaliations yet moreso.No, anyone serious about opposing (((them))) has no reason to indulge in hope for such failures.
>>537971201JUST DETONATE A NUKE IN ORBITLET THE EMP BLAST BRING THE BIG RESET
>>537971201AI drone swarms cannot be jammed. They don't need to talk to anybody else. America is the only place with enough gun owners to shoot them down.
>>537975554No it wasn'tIt was combined arms Now drones hard counter eveything
>>537971201Every time I hear that awful whine of a drone overhead I get angry. Fuck those fucking things.
>>537972734Peak manliness requires big sweaty manly men rolling and wrestling on the floor beating each other with fists and choking each other out
>>537971201Bring back Flak cannons. As long as the drones remain subsonic and low-altitude, why not?
>>537976979ITS STILL COMBINED ARMS DRONES ARE JUST ANOTHER ARMIRANNY IS WAY OUT OF ITS LEAGUE SHOOTING AT CIVILIAN OIL BOATS IS NOT IMPRESSIVE AMERICA LITERALLY INVENTED DRONES AMERICA WILL DOMINATE WAR FOREVERTHE BEST WAY TO GET DRONES IS UPSTREAM BY ALWAYS KNOWING WHERE THEY AREDRONE OPERATORS CAN BE SEEN SETTING UPTHE EQUIPMENT HAS TO MAKE ITS WAY TO THE BATTLEFIELD IT HAS TARGET COORDINATES JUST BLOW UP THEIR DRONE SUPPLY IN BIG CHUNKS
>>537978156>AMERICA WILL DOMINATE WAR FOREVERyes, the mutt legions will definitely beat the chinese. america forever just like the romans lasted right?
>>537971201>Now that the dust has settled, what do we do about these fucking things?Same thing as Kamikazes..shoot them down, and get back to armor.~Armor forces drones to increase in size.~Size forces drones to become more vulnerable, deteactable, and expensive.~Making drones more detectable, vulnerable, and expensive...makes AAA systems more effective.~THEREFORE.....investing in both armor & AAA effectively deals with drones on the modern battlefield. The key is to force drones into becoming far too valuable to be widespread useful. Kind of like countering tanks on the battlefield with AT weapons. It does not remove all tanks, but it addresses the problem of tank 'swarms' sufficiently.
>>537971201drone warfare is cringe and gay
>>537978427This. Warfare reached peak masculinity with line infantry.
>>537978500yes, stand in a line and fire at each other .. the ultimate gambler approves .. it worked against savages with spears
>>537971201Realistically the only counter to drone warfare is laser AA.
>>537971201weighted net launchers
>>537971305You cant really shoot them, its not like a skeet these things swap directions in any direction. Use a BB gun and try and shoot a house fly. Its insanely difficult to hit them in the air, not because of your aim, but because you cant predict its movement.
>>537979248>Use a BB gun and try and shoot a house flyi think i saw a chinese guy catch a fly with chopsticks once. maybe we could make a really large pair of chopsticks to catch drones or something.
>>537973445Finally, a weapon to surpass metal gear!
>>537974400£30 is decent. Will the shrapnel pepper nearby troops or is directional?
>>537971201Use them.
>>537971201Shoot them. The only reason there are soldiers who miss drones even from just 10 meters away is that they are bussified guncucks who have never had guns in their hands before. Actual skill issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAkH4ZRhdWE
>>537972076this.at least make a good vid for the internet
>>537971201>Face it, we do NOT have a reliable strategic counter to drone warfare in 2026. >demoralization postAt any moment, we could face nine thousand 9/11-tier terrorist surprise attacks on American soil…>yes, very likely. The range of a drone? Not over the Atlantic or the Pacific? No? We're good.and there’s not a Goddamn thing we could do about it.>when you demoralize too hard, its like a trap with no bait in it>Discuss the political implications.>no, OP is a shill shit skin faggot kike fuck.Lower your tone, nigger.
>>537971874>random boomers firing into the sky at anything vaguely aerodynamicWe need to kill Americans. All of them.I am an American. I’ll be the last to die. I’ll see us out.My ancestors were the first in, I’ll be the last out.
>>537971201what does the swordsman do about a gun?
>>537971201Net gun. Easy.
Can't Russia just send some super sonic missles over to the enemy leader's homes or something? Bunker busters? Don't the Russians have any intelligence on their enemies?This retarded war is stupid.
>>537978156Posting in all caps isn't going to reopen the strait, boomer.
>>537971305>Shoot themYou look up and the sun is in your eyes... You see faint movement that looks like a fly. Then you hear the buzzing - finally audible to human ears, even when you take off your safety gunshot noise suppression earphones...You know now this means that its at least 100ft from you. Its being flown by a human operator, meaning it will catch you no matter what. You wonder in your final moments if you are about to be blown up from an attached IED, mortared from an air drop bomb, or shot from a mounted gun.If only you could have seen it before it saw you - maybe the 1 to 2 shots you would have gotten in with a shotgun would have taken it down.In medieval times people carried swords...Then people carried guns...Then people carried computers.You brought a gun to a computer fight. ..And enemy watches you get annihilated on his smartphone.>>537972820Cool idea.
>>537980846Split the bullet in half with my butter knife.
>>537971201>meanwhile Muhammad just blew the legs off another infantJews are so funny trying this
