Look at this tacoma, fucking 90kAnd we have no second hand market for these things. Fuck you eu
>>537979542You deserve to be gassed for even trying to import that Yank filth.
>>537979542Back to cycling you go.
>>537979542>bikelette doesn't understand the concept of trimstick to fingering dykes
>>537979542just buy a hilux or a ford raptor, retard
>>537979542just get a chinese EV for 10k, when the battery shits out in 5 years buy another for 10k. Fuck that 90k bullshit that you wont be able to repair.
>>537979710No second hand market for those.
>>537979542>90kAnd Toyota still hasn't figured out how to make frames that don't rust out.
>>537979764There is but for the commercial market. They get tax exemptions and most just own on finance. If you're an individual looking to buy commercial privately then there is inflated prices and taxes.
>>537979662>posted from a sweltering urban bus stop, packed with browns, armed with ceramic knives
>>537979872Are they shit even for this money?
>>537980157Why do they make us buy ugly small eggshaped cuckmobile hatchbacks? Flood the market with these pickups, those things can pull some shit too
>>537979542>house money for a carDamn son, get yourself a jamboy and some stirrups or something.
>>537980446Fuckn landcruiser. Those are very niceI like the older hiluxes too, slow but strong
>>537980381Basically because the state just wants to tax the fuck out of people who have the potential to earn money. They want their cut of people's prosperity. They want the average joe in debt to a car instead of buying within their means.
>>537979710Hilux got nothing on the tacoma. Slow and loud engine with high consumption. Tacoma is the same exact size with a better interior and much faster drive train. The worst part is that the Tacoma costs much less (like 50%) in the US then what a similar spec Hilux costs here. As always, americans win.
>>537980165Idk man, I wouldn't pay 90k for a house much less a fucking car.
>>537979662Despite the military occupation Toyota is still a Japanese brand
>>537979542get a hilux. it's essentially a tacoma just better built
>>537980885but... that one top gear segment that propelled the hilux into legend...
>>537980160he's already dead so he can't read your joke but I enjoyed it
>>537980885>i need a pick up truck so i can drive fastgyspy retardism. just get a V8 RAM in that case
>>537979542no.anon that's the price BEFORE import fees.
>>537979542Why do you want that garbage when you should be buying an old defender?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5m_uTLy0ew
>>537979662shut up boy or you'll get your ass kicked
you can compensate your small dick with something else OP, like a big bike for example
>>537979740nah you'd die in a lithium fire before the first battery ran out
>>537980957I found this, still too expensive
>>537981052>not getting an ineos grenadier insteadsad
>>537981052Too expensive I mean, where are the 15k 1990s 2000s trucks? Are we doomed?
>>537979542Get a 2nd or 3rd gen Cummins like a man, not that soi boy truck.
>>537979542~$90k fully taken apart and refurbished, body and engine condition "like new"only 9000 km after the refurb god damn gib plx
>>537980520>Fuckn landcruiser. Those are very nice>I like the older hiluxes too, slow but strongYeah the old hiluxes are super popular here, pretty typical baby tradies first car and every farm will have an old one kicking around. Even with half a million km's on them they're a lot more reliable than newer offerings.>>537981195>I found this, still too expensiveIf it's in good condition (looks super clean) and if parts availability is decent up there you might find it's quite a bit cheaper in the long run and worth the investment, it'll probably last until they outlaw ICE engines or we all die in WW3 etc
>>537980994Contrarians love this car. Like in Doug Demuro's review where he goes on for half an hour about how "utilitarian" and "purpose built" it is because it has no comfort features. No, its just a stripped down Tacoma for poor countries.
>>537981334The Defender will last you forever. You will be handing your grandkid the key. Prices are only going up for defenders. It will be like how the boomers all brought their houses for €8000 and now expect €800,000 for the same house 40 years later. Buy now or miss the train. The aftermarket scene is growing strong. People are swapping the old engine with a V8 or inline 6 and ZF8 gearbox.
>>537979542Check out the car prices in my country before any of you shits complain.
>>537979542>Why its so expensive to import car in europefemale voters voted for this.
>>537981453Hahaha that bar. Is that for herding cows or kangaroos on the highway?Yea the problem is, for rhat hilux i send i would pay 233 euro a month in road tax
>>537981810So that would be 384 australian dollars for having it on the driveway every month. The pedo government probably needs it for their pedo parties in their commie sex dungeons
>>537981739You’re kinda selling me on them but how rusty are rhe older ones. I never rreally looked into them.I always thought it was a bit of a rich peoples car
>>537981450Looks cool but you always have to work on it, fight the rust. Need storage for it. And it doesnt have a thick frame like pickups have
>>537981359Diesel is too heavily taxes hereIf you tell me the weight of one of those i can calculate the monthly road tax we have to pay here
>>537982190>how rusty are the older ones. I never really looked into them.All parts are serviceable. If (when) the original chassis rusts out you can buy a new chassis with modern metallurgy, galvanisation and powder coating they last effectively forever. All the body panels are aluminium so they don't corrode, only the chassis and bulkhead wall are steel, like I said you replace them with modern rust protected parts. I don't know how things work in other countries but in the UK once you have the legal document for car ownership, V5c, you can replace all parts on these defenders. You could 'refurbish' the car and replace every part, not a single part remains of the original and that is perfectly legal. Hence why I said they will last forever.
>>537981810>Hahaha that bar. Is that for herding cows or kangaroos on the highway?Nah just in case you hit roos/cows (that's a bit of an extreme example). Helps to deflect them down and under the car and stop the car from being disabled so you don't get stranded hours from help etcWe do build some hilariously weird shit for catching feral buffalo though, they have big claws on the side, kinda like jurassic park toys kek>>537982031>Yea the problem is, for rhat hilux i send i would pay 233 euro a month in road taxYou guys paving your roads with gold or something? I pay $600~ AUD for a year for registration and then $200 for basic (and legally required) insurance that covers any damage I do to someone else or their property in an accident, but it doesn't cover any damage to my vehicle. I don't bother with more expensive insurance because my shit is all cheap/easy to fix/cheap to replace and insurance companies have a nasty habit of writing a vehicle off for minor things whereas i'd rather just fix them.
>>537980885AMERICA, AMERICA...AMERICA!FUCK YEAH!
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>>537979542They make it expensive because they want you to price you out of it so that you buy little euro cuckmobiles instead.
>>537982644>All the body panels are aluminium so they don't corrodeThis is hands down the best thing about defenders, especially if you're looking at an older vehicle, especially if you live somewhere it snows/beach etc Guys here tend to swap out the engines as they just don't like the heat(few engines do), but everything else on them is considered to be incredibly rock solid, lots of old army ones here still kicking around putting in some serious k's to.
>>537980165They werent treating the inside of their tube frames which caused them to rust from the inside out. You never realized there was a problem until it was too late. T. Own an 05 4runner and while everything else on it is mint the frame is totally trashed. It has been garage kept its whole life too. Im going to end up putting a lift in my shop, pulling the body, and fixing the frame because its a nice vehicle and doesn't have all the gay Spyware in it.
>>537979662quiet cuck, your digital ID is coming soon.>>537979542nice trucc
>>537982644>>537983225I didnt know it has alluminum body panels. I saw a documentairy about a chinese company making molds for pressing new body panels for the range rovers. Should be cheaper than normal ways
>>537981739>lucas
>>537979542Bruh, they're $70k here
>>537983489Something like picrel? Looks bretty cool. Why would they cheap out on that shit though, its bad marketing
>>537982190Lrn 2 weld. Its essentially the modern form of knapping a stone to make a knife. Everyone should learn to weld. Most of the shit you own is made of metal or plastic. I bought a welder and a 3d printer because it makes no sense to not know how to repair things. Sure, it takes some time and practice but its a lifelong skill. If you don't learn how to weld at least put your kids in some program that teaches them to because it will be immeasurably usefull to them for their entire life.
>>537984368Life aint fair. And you prbably pay pennies for roadtax
>>537983875>a chinese company making molds for pressing new body panels for the range rovers. Should be cheaper than normal waysI saw the same video, they're copying/cloning companies in the UK/US.>>537983954>lucasPeople are dropping in a LS3 crate engine, no need to worry about lucas electronics. Or go fully mechanical with a OM606 build. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKEPera088
>>537979542expensive?its like 90 bucks negro
>>537984694I got a welder, i tried some welding on my old volvo but i dont have a good garage to work on it. But i need to do it more, i agree its a good skill to have
Why is it so expensive to import a car into USA? All I want for Christmas is one of these little kei car micro vans from Japan.
>>537979542They’re pretty close to that here too.
>>537983875>I didnt know it has alluminum body panels.It's something I wish more 4WD's had, it really is fantastic. It makes them incredibly light, very easy to work on, very easy to modify/fix. Any tard can work aluminium with basic hand tools and not having to worry about rust in seams, wheel wells etc is brilliant and if you dent or scratch them a bit it doesn't really matter.If they're more widely available, better parts availability etc in your neck of the woods they're a very good alternative to a landcruiser/hilux. Just a good no-nonsense 4WD.I'd love to get one of the ex aus army 6x6 ones here for the farm as they have a nice 2 ton carrying capacity.
>>537984846More than 100k in your monopoly money
>>537981195>>537981334here in Switzerland you can buy a Toyota Tacoma with 100k kilometers for 67k which is around €72k
>>537979542why the fuck you want a 4 cylinder turbo trash. toyota is dead
>>537985065Really? Why the canadian allmost pays half
>>537985029I'd have no problem living in this. Retire early. Get a Starlink connection, camp around Maine in Summer and Utah in Winter.
>>537985294Where do you poop and shower though
>>537985124Woww petrol too. You guys are blessed. You knownif i import than one to colgateland i have to pay BPM taxes, which is a % of the catalog value. So probably around 20-30k euros i have to pay to import it
>>537985294Just enough space inside to set up a Steam Machine>>537985349I've seen some custom builds where they had a little composting toilet they'd roll out. For showering, something this small they'd probably do an outdoor popup shower, some shower curtain attached to the back or side door.
>>537985093I didnt know all this. You both are selling me on these landrovers.Yea i saw some jewps with tyres on the front and sides where they would herd the cows i guess? At cattle station close to tennant creek
>>537985541>Yea i saw some jewps with tyres on the front and sides where they would herd the cows i guess?Yeah tenant creek would be bull catchers, just blokes going out and rounding up ferals, elsewhere it might be camels as well, but they tend to just jump off the back of utes onto the camels rather than trying to physically stop them with a vehicle etchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cY07qepEQk
>>537986442Hahah, madmax contraption, old jeeps, the fucking helicopter comes in frame.Badass.I know some farmers use horses aswell, maybe thats for the smallers farms?
>>537983489if you live in the east coast and aren't coating the underside of your shit you are retarded and deserve to have it rust away to nothing.
>>537989069What year is this tacoma? It has a v6.Looks dope
>>537985541>You both are selling me on these land rovers.There's a reason why they sold over 2 million defenders to almost every country in the world. The car brand Ineos formed when LR refused to sell the rights to build the old defender to Jim Ratcliffe after they discontinued it. The issue with the Ineos is there's too much electronics, too many emission systems, too much to go wrong. It can never surpass as the original land rover.
>>537989069Coating it with what? >inb4 oilYea, thats snakeoil retardation and makes things worse. Toyota failed to properly treat their frames. It was a recall. I missed the window because the dealership kept telling me it didn't meet the requirements. Then after the recall had expired my entire frame went to shit. The whole coating your undercarriage with oil meme stopped being relevant decades ago. You cant coat the inside of a tube frame where the rust begins. Youre harkoning back to the days of solid chassis construction. T. Mechanical engineer with an emphasis on material science.
>>537990793Makes sense Do you own one?I really like the aluminium body part thing
>>537979542why not buy a hilux? did they stop selling those trucks?
>>537985181Unironically; tariffs.
>>537985181They are not that expensive. I just looked up my local yota dealership and a 2026 trd pro i force max quad cab is selling for 56k. Lol
>>537992908Our government is litterally mao zedong personified
I just bought a 2023 Tacoma for 38k.
>>537981052Those Arkonic-redone Defenders are top notch but retardedly expensive.I feel for my Eurofag buddies. I bought both my kids Tacomas and one of my dearest friends (we were high school exchange students) is stuck hauling his family in some beater car because he built a house, which sucked up his and his wife's income. He just seemed so beaten down when we visited Germany last summer. He sighed when he saw my son's Taco.I've bought and sold a bunch of old Toyota FJ Landcruisers coming up from South America the past few years. Some just totally pristine, one was a tar baby I lost my ass on. Really fun and simple to wrench on. Ride like a buckboard wagon, don't really take them over 45-50mph, but I could drive them up the side of a tree. About the most electronics are the stereos I install.
>>537979542For half as much you can get a proper diesel hilux without emmisions faggotry
>>537979542Why the fuck would you buy that shitty little toy truck? Go buy a 3/4 ton preferably. Even a half ton domestic is far better and we consider those cars.
>>537993635Whats a 3/4 ton, a 750kg truck?
>>537993859Ford f250, ram 2500, Chevy 2500. The minimum imo
>>537994030But they get stuck alot, says youtube. They are so heavy, better to have the middle ground, something medium sized with a good engine
>>537994382Throw some bigger wheels on it and let her eat. Just don’t go bogging in a mud pit. That goes for pretty much any stock vehicle. These small trucks are just for larpers and suck when you start doing stuff with them.
>>537979542you don't need a truck to go grocery shopping and you don't need to engage in gay ass whiteboy hobbies.and you especially don't need a truck to transport your fat ass to work.
Car taxes in the netherlands i# the state pulls out your fingernails and enslaves your children if you purchase a car weighing more than 1000kg, has 3+ cylinders or emits more than 75 grams of CO2. I assume thats why 50 year old Dutch engineers ride their little bicycle to work in winter. So why are you looking at a Tacoma?
>>537992908>They are not that expensiveCar taxes in the Netherlands are bonkers, when you see a Dutch guy in a VW Polo with a 1200cc engine and airconditioning that means he just won the lottery. Meanwhile I pay €430/year tax and €255/year insurance on a jaguar, Germans pay even less. Their government REALLY hates cars, they WILL ride bicycles OR ELSE.
>>537979542Tacoma is the Hilux rebranded in North America.Go buy a fucking hilux, they cost like 44k.
>>537979542I'm glad you're too poor to import that big pile of shit
>>537983875>I saw a documentairy about a chinese company making molds for pressing new body panels for the range roversIt sounds like you just like buying stuff, instead of actually looking for a car advice
>>537985349Franchice gym membership like Basic-Fit, you can walk into any gym in any country all over Europe, at any time of day and use all the amenities
>>537979542No meme.Franco-German industrial protectionism. They cannot survive without their auto sales. They have huge sway in the parliament due to their size.
>>537979542what a retarded looking car.. just give me a RAM
>>537979542nobody in europe needs one of those, a prius is plenty
>>537995987Would this be the reason? I can kinda understand that. But still, how many people would buy pickup trucks here? People get hard dicks from hatchbackcuckmobiles in europe.
I will never pay more than €15k for a car and it has to be second hand. I've always owned semi luxury cars following these rules
>>537995987Yup. We have something similar in the u.s which answers why american cars such pieces of shit. California and their epa influence. Their market share of the auto industry dictates manufacturing which is why every car has ridiculously expensive emissions systems. Southern California has a particular geographical problem which results in smog so the rest of the country has to endure their faggotry. Whats funny is that these emissions systems cause vehicles to use more gasoline/diesel. We did reach a certain apex of reliability and fuel consumption but we have now gone full retard and made cars incredibly unreliable in order to meet the burden of California's particular problem.
>>537996396> Their market share of the auto industry dictates manufacturing which is why every car has ridiculously expensive emissions systemsSo basically the same we have in europe but more extreme. So we can conclude that the pedo leaders all sit in the same room to make these plans.
If people weren't such faggotsd it'd be nice to have a road to Europe.
>>537979740>crash>doors close>die the most painful death in flames when others recording tik tok videos with you titled "eurofag didn't buy AC">get posted in one of the threads
>>537979662>Anglo lost so many braincells from the heat that he thinks all pickup trucks are AmericansAlso Japanese cars are infinitely better quality and far better price than any European car.
>>537979542The EU has signified the ruin of Europe, worse than the latifundia for Rome
>>537980165I just spent $28k on a 2017 Tacoma sport with 123k miles. I fucking love it. The only problem I have with it is that the cup holders are weird sizes and doesn't fit my favorite coffee cup.
>>537997008They cant beat the german zinkbath/paintjob thoughbeit. Those vw and audis dont rust. Japan still cheaps out on those.Europe is destroying its own markets with the green marxist cult having the reigns.Cut the emission crap and german engines will be better again
>>537979542Any country with a domestic car industry tariffs the hell out of foreign made cars.
>>537997127Nice. which engine?
>>537997099Its marxism and communism. Those are running the west since ww2
>>5379975383.5 liter 6 cylinder. It's not a fast truck by any means but runs great and the 4x4 kicks ass.
>>537996596The auto industry could just tell california to fuck off but that would exclude 30% of their sales or California would would endure being a toxic-air wasteland. In this case it's literally the market dictating this.
>>537997908I got a unicorn 4runner with a v8. Lol. Toyota promptly stopped making 4runners with 4.6l Iforce because what was the point of buying a tacoma or a lexus gx470 when the v8 4runner *exists*. Its such a fucking beast. Absolutely mogs every small/mid/large size american suv. Better towing than a Tahoe. Faster. Better off road. Etc.
>>537998107Nice. I'm pretty sure I saw one of those last week. I drove jeeps for years because my first was a 2000 Cherokee and it was fucking awesome out in the mountains. They got progressively worse the more modern they got. Finally once they started putting the rubber ducks on the dash it was the final straw. Thankfully the Lord sent a giant hail storm that totaled my 2015 Cherokee and I swore off jeeps forever.
>>537997908Great engine
>>537979542Would that even fit on your streets?
When I visit the states I always rent a base model Mustang Ecoboost
>>537998438Yeah. I believe they fixed the rust problem by the third generation which is what I have. I think with these the biggest problem is the rubber seals around the rear window. I had to put a little silicone around them by that cost like 10 bucks.
