>"Breaking news: it's hot in summer">"Just buy AC bro"Can we get AC for the NUCLEAR FUCKING REACTORS too?
>>538021744>rivers too hotI want to ban all europeans from my internet
>>538021744Europe has NO energy strategy.Banning and destroying everything because muh_bad, but other hand provide no working solution instead of those; is not thinkthru approach but evidence of the incompetency and mental illness of the " leadership ".
>>538021785And I want to slaughter all ameripigs with a rusty cleaver
>>538021744Id laugh if I didnt think we were going the same way
>>538021744Why do you need water for a nuclear reactor? Just use air cooling bro
>>538021744>rivers are too hotTopkek
>>538021744>data centers dump hot water into the rivers>out of environmental concerns we have to shut down nuke plants OR we kill all the fishThis is 100% sustainable and in no way going to bite us in the ass.
>>538021785>>538021980You guys keep praising nuclear technology without understanding it? Why are all the mutts uneducated idiots?
>>538021785>>538021980>tons of fish get cooked by NPP>still NPC face>bird gets hit by wind turbine>angry NPC face
>>538021980>>538021785Why is it so hard for the low iq american mind to comprehend things like scale?Yes, bodies of water can become too warmYes meting of glacier will drown you fat ass
>rivers are too hotNo they aren’t they just designed their cooling badly (little tolerance) or they are exaggerating.
tour de france should start next weekend
It's not a security risk, we just have draconian wildlife preservation laws because that is one of the thing green politicians use to hamper nuclear (construction and exploitation)
>>538021744>Rivers too hotLol just dump ice in the water
>>538022132>Green politicians Correct term is CIA agents.
>>538022144It would have the same effect as trump dumping 10 gallons of hydrogen peroxide in the reflecting pool
>>538022107>>538022132It has nothing to do with fish. The water has to be cold enough to absorb the excess waste heat. That's why very warm countries only build nuclear power plants by the sea.
>>538021744>water too hotisn’t the entire point of a nuclear reactor to boil water to make a turbine go brr
>>538022226They're americans, don't bother, their IQ is most likely 60
>>538021744Maybe we shouldn't be building massive data centers and dumping their hot water everywhere.If (((they))) want AI, let'em code efficient AI software instead of relying on brute force.
>>538022226Do you have any idea how much excess heat does a nuclear reactor produce and at what temperature does it operate? If you can’t handle minor swings in water temperature, that’s just horrifically bad cooling design.
>>538021744Apparently there is a solution since nuclear plants are operating in Florida where it was 96 degrees today and will remain in the temp rnage every day of every summer
>>538022163I thought they were Russian agents>>538022226No, the cooling is fine, it's the dumped water temperature that is monitored for excess warming
>>538022251You need to cool the fuel rods otherwise you've got a rather large problem on your hands.
>>538021744>"nuclear reactor" shut down>nothing happenshmmm... almost as if they are fake?
>>538022278This isn't the US retarded nip, we don't do data centers outside some hellhole cities in germany
>>538021923tpbp
>>538022324Green politicians are the most anti-Russian people in every European country. But they LOVE American Freedom Gas.
>>538021744>europeans don't know u_t = k u_xxsad
>>538022109We've been waiting for the glacier apocalypse for over a hundred years now.
>>538022253There are also many nuclear shills in Europe who all seem to share the same lack of knowledge about the technology.>>538022318>>538022324Above 25 degrees celsius water temperature, the power output must be reduced to ensure cooling, and that's exactly what happened here. This is standard practice in all countries worldwide.
>>538022109But ice displaces more than water than it itself is water so if they melt they will lower the water level…
>>538021744this problem occurs every year yet they do nothing to fix it why? Are they getting paid not to fix these inefficiencies?
>>538021744>help, we don't have coolant pumps to turn onWat.
>>538022494Retarded nigger, If I drop a bucket of ice in a glass of water, does it spill over or not?In europe literal 4th graders learn that the danger is the ice on land
>>538022529How do you plan to solve the problem? Cooling towers and cooling water are all you can do. And if the water gets too hot, you'll have to reduce the power output.
>>538022486It must be reduced to ensure the dumped cooling water doesn't warm the river downstream as to not have adverse consequences on local wildlife.It is not a security or a cooling issue on the reactor. The reactor is cooled adequately indeed, glad we agree on that, the fishes downstream maybe not so much
>>538022109In Florida we built cooling reservoirs and a 168 mile in-rock canal system to cool the water before dumping into the seaYou know rather than just dumping it straight in the nearest river. Stupid Americans
>>538022572And then you learn about plastic deformation of the Earth's crust and you start throwing error codes because Antarctica is supposedly an archipelago under the ice.
>>538022486There should always be a healthy dose excess cooling capacity even if reactor is running at maximum power. River can’ possibly be warmer than 30 degrees Celsius. If what you’re saying is true, French reactors have a horrible design.
Performative nonsense.
>>538022529we have a fix, it's just not deployed on every plant yet
>>538022640>start throwing error codesWho the fuck starts spewing codecel language out of a suddenYou exposed yourself as an H1B jeet, kys
>>538022621It seems that French engineers aren’t retards indeed and didn’t design nuclear powerplants in such a way that they risk a meltdown if feedwater is 3 degrees warmer than usual, as this Swiss guy is claiming.
>>538022638Good. The Frenchmen didn't because until now it wasn't necessary. Because climate change is a hoax and all that.
>>538022687could just use the waste heat to warm up homes like China does. >But it's summer and hotDid I stutter? Heat those homes!
>>538021744>shut down 1% of nuclear power generation>make 100 articles acting like it's a big deallol what are we gonna use? wind?
>>538022621>>538022645It's simply a fact that cooling performance starts to decrease at water temperatures above 25 degrees celsius. But even if you don't believe it, environmental protection should also always be a good argument for reducing performance.
>>538021744>rivers too hotThey must think most people in Europe are retarded sandnigger transplants now and are putting zero effort into their lies anymore.>no AC for you. Go fucking boil to death while I sit in my modern castle tower in air conditioned luxury laughing as you die.>wait youre using fans? No, fuck you. I ordered you to boil to death. Kill the power. Reason? Who cares, theyre all retarded. Make some shit up.
>>538021744>Rivers become too hot to cool a nuclear reactorYeah, I'm calling bullshit on that one Frog. What's the water temperature? I guarantee you its nowhere near the heat of a nuclear reactor.
>>538022738They are not, once again it's "wildlife preservation" regulation that are used to complicate everything.Be sure that if you build something "controversial" (like a road, or a factory), green activits will be quick to find a rare,endangered specie of frog or earthworm to sabotage the project. This massively increases delays in new builds, scaring investors away even if it leads to nothing burgers.>>538022890I accept your concession ,you disingenius cunt.
>>538022890That's just bullshit. NPPs work at several 100 degrees. +-10 degrees don't make much of a difference. It's 100% about environmental protection.
>>538022687Oh I see, they didn't have to shut down the reactors. Some faggot environmentalists demanded it.You see that's not the heat wave forcing you to shut down your reactors. Its whiny faggots forcing you to shut down your reactors.
>>538022963>german has the audacity to talk about nuclear reactorsTimmy, you're so scared of them and cry like a btich when they get brought up and now you're an expert ?
>>538021744>Rivers become too hot for Nuclear reactors.Bullshit. Physically impossible.
>>538023020>subhuman saysbegone, whore.
>>538023103Shut up retard, you're the niggers of europe
>>538022103What's the issue with these things then? Surely even a warm river can still cool the kind of heat produced by s nuclear reactor right? Or is the issue that the released, hot water would affect the river downstream too much?
>>538023046It's not too hot for the reactors, it's too hot for the shit that lives in the river. Adding the hot water from the power plant would heat to river too much. It's environmental regulation.
>>538021744>too hot to cool down a 300+ degree reactorare they made of boiling acid or lava?
>>538022738Its also quite likely that some of these reactors are quite dated at this point. A few from the 50s are likely operating still. So maybe less so poorly designed due to competence and more so lack of adequate data on initial design and construction. This is under the assumption that they've continued refueling over constructing newer plants.
>>538022761Really this is a political stunt. Like they could’ve never imagined and prepared for it getting 2 degrees hotter than the previous high
>>538021744>muh water is too hot The whole point of a nuclear reactor to heat water. Are europeans really this retarded?
>>538023717Thanks Captain Hindsight.
>>538021744This happens most years - especially inland power stations - double so for this one.I'm expecting the power to go out any day.
>>538023968I hope you can keep your lights on and your fish alive>>538023912It’s a nothingburger. Climate hysterics media
>>538021955She does what?
>>538023201In nuclear power plants, there are two key aspects to consider regarding cooling. The first is overall efficiency, which depends on the temperature difference between the steam temperature from the turbine and the cooling water temperature. The second aspect is safety. This means that the power plant needs sufficient cooling at all times. If this cooling cannot be provided, an emergency shutdown occurs, which stops the chain reaction. However, continued cooling is still required; otherwise, the ever-popular core meltdown will occur.In the cases in france and switzerland, it's not about an emergency, but about preventing one. Nuclear power plants have a certain buffer for cooling capacity, which they must not fall below, because otherwise, in a real emergency, such as a pump failure, there wouldn't be enough buffer left. Therefore, the argument in the thread that there's still room for going higher is nonsense, since they ensure that this safety buffer is always available. Which leads to them reductions the output when the water temperature exceeds 25 degrees celsius in some plants.
>>538024192They seem to have mostly shut it down and shared the load through the network
>Check catalog >Record heat has caused (blank) to be shut down spam everywhere>No linksNo heterosexuality in these threads either
>>538023735this blew my mind as well, lol.reminds me of Clerks, "you mean i have to drink this coffee hot?!"
>>538024508>https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/energy-transition/the-river-cooled-beznau-nuclear-power-station-is-being-shut-down-the-aare-is-too-warm/91657359
>>538022572Ice is already in the water
>>538023735ThisAlso it sounds like a poorly designed nuclear reactor.
>>538023968>>538024384The first frog I see on /pol/ who is not absolutely delusional about nuclear power. The swiss were also extremely pro-nuclear power until a few years ago when there was an incident with one of our nuclear power plants, where the operator could not find the cause, but it was restarted anyway. That has really changed the mood here.
>>538021744>Germany destroys their nuclear stations to buy from France>This happensRipThis'll hit us too I bet
>>538024750>This happensthis happens every year
>>538024625You don't even have nuclear power plants. And in spain, nuclear power plants regularly have to be throttled back due to warm rivers. Which, in turn, poses also a problem for you as a net importer of electricity.
>>538023735It's thermodynamics meets environmental laws.You have to cool the water after it is used to drive turbines.Several loops of condensers. Eventually release the waste heat out of the system.This is done with cooling towers or dumping the heat in river water.Cooling towers risks using up too much water = dry river, dead fish.Dumping heat in river water = dead cooked fish.
>>538021744>Can we get AC for the NUCLEAR FUCKING REACTORS too?basically yes, the reactors just need to evaporate the water instead of using some flow-through mechanism that wants to dump a few C warmer water into a river.it'll take like 2600-3000L per hour per megawatt IIRC, not really a problembut people hate reconstructing parts of nuclear power because of course safety regulations and stuff mean lots of costs and lots of downtime
>>538022113Oh man. Hope our boi doesn't croak chasing that high score lol.
>>538024938maybe learn how to design a fucking power plant properly then. When it gets to be 100 freedom degrees my truck does not suddenly start overheating because it is designed properly. Maybe put the fucking wine and cheese down and hire some Japanese or American engineers because apparently this shit is beyond you faggots.
>>538024938>Cooling towers risks using up too much watereh you can approximately calculate the water required and you *could* even stash weeks or some months worth of water in one or many cisterns or something when the river has plentyagain about 2600L-3000L per MWh at the upper end, lowest is like 1400L or something (hotter steam in better ambient temp or w/e)
>>538025163>https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/120817-record-heat-drought-pose-problems-for-electric-power-gridHere's an article from the 2012 heat wave, when the US had to shut down nuclear power plants due to water temperature. This happens less frequently in the US, as they have more cooling towers and are often located on larger, and therefore colder, bodies of water, but it does occur.
>>538021744>France"The number of unplanned outages at France’s ageing nuclear reactor fleet surged by 43% to 399 days in 2023, up from 278 days the year before, a report said on Thursday." - https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/Unplanned-outages-at-French-reactors-hit-4-year-high-study
>>538021744well that's not goodyou need the power plants to power the AC
>>538025163I was in nuclear industry for 10 years.Environmental laws are tougher here.>>538025204Too much storage - it would heat up also - no good for cooling condensers. Also cost.
>>538023717>private company builds and operates power plants in France>they have a monetary interest in keeping them running>every time they stop running, they lose money>since it was built in France and not Florida, they didn't use the same aggressive cooling solutions they use in Florida>could it be that they did that because the climste in that area is colder? nah, it must be a conspiracy to make nuclear look bad even though they don't benefit at all from it
maybe the problem is less the heat and more the fact your electric infrastructure wasn't built to handle millions more people with every year that passes.
>>538025471France Gov is majority shareholder.They are told what to do - can't raise prices for shareholders - France have blocked them several times from doing this.
>>538025311what? anon, cisterns don't really randomly heat up very much. i read we recently constructed one for drinking water for 30M liters, is a "nobody really heard about that" regional replacement infrastructure type of project. and no, we won't be installing water coolers.even that is obviously 10000MWh at 3000L evaporation so more than a year for a 1MW reactor and more than a month (a bit less than one and half a month) for 10MW.this is in no way very absurd. it just isn't free but we're probably talking about a few percent in cost ... instead of the shutdowns it might even be far cheaper sum total IDK.
>>538025588Go tell EDF - Their (cheaper) solution of using sea water cooled reactors more when it's very hot seems to be working even in extreme heat.
>>538025548Isn't EDF 100% state-owned again? The privatization was reversed a few years ago after it became known that massive modernizations were planned, or? Just the way capitalists always do things.
>>538021744Nuclear energy is bullshit the long term effects and damage for the amount of energy isn't worth it and any idea of some utopian form of clean unlimited Nuclear energy is a fantasy
>>538025683Yes fully state owned - I never worked in France nuclear industry, just USA.
>>538025758retard
>>538025787Ok then tell me how clean limitless nuclear energy is possible
>>538025667oh i'm not saying that solution is really wrong, I guess you just heat up the sea a bit if you prefer. it will tend to have more water than a river, eh.but its essentially an answer to OP too, or wherever countries may prefer/need to install nuclear power near a river. evaporate and build a somewhat large cistern?
>>538025758Truth. Even the chinks, which now has all the necessary resources, isn't planning on using more than 5-10% nuclear power in its long-term energy mix. It can be useful as a foundation, as it provides a certain degree of grid stability, but not much more.
>>538021980My keel cooled vessel keeps overheating, this weather is no joke, the rivers are boiling.
>amerigolems proving they're genuinely retarded
>>538025873Traditional reactors already take 15-20 years to build and are very expensive even without cisterns.This also means it is usually beyond the mandate of the ruling party.It is a gift to the governments that follow - so little incentive to build.I'm quite interested in the small modular nuclear plants coming to market now - like Rolls Royce.
>>538025873If you have or create large water reserves, it makes more sense to use them for pumped-storage power plants. Then it doesn't matter where your electricity comes from, because you can simply store it and use it when you need it.
>overregulate to hell and back>see? it doesn't workBonus content:>In a majority of species with Temperature-Dependent Sex Determination (TSD) higher water temperatures invariably lead to a male-biased population. Genetic females can undergo a process called "sex reversal," where heat inhibits female-specific hormones (like cyp19a1b and foxl2) and triggers testicular development
>>538021785We are in extreme drougth in most of the country, rivers are low and hot, why they don't have safety margin : >>538024306
>>538026021>Traditional reactors already take 15-20 years to buildPlain jane bwr go out in like 5 years.
>>538024618Not the one on top of Groenland and Antarctica. Plus water expands when hotter (that's the main effect)
>>538026062that explains why all rapefugees are male kek
>>538026050pumped storage is nice and recommended but not 1MWh for 3000L like feeding the water to a nuclear power plant, no.>>538026021in the end they're not that expensive over time and we can't keep being idiots about societal investments just because up-front cost pretty high.i don't say you should stop building the sea water cooled reactors if that works for you its just not such a huge dealthe mess and high costs europe caused in its power grid, that's a much bigger deal.
>>538025758Go ahead and explain how those in the business of complaining expendend so many energy money manhours to shut down the superphenix research reactor including firing rpg at the construction site and using it as a major point to form a government coalition if it indeed doesn't work. If anything it works too well.
>>538022103>>538022226Anon, we have nuclear power plants located in states of our that are actual deserts and we never need to "Soccer blue! Shut it down wee wee honk honk!" over our rivers being "too hot."The issue is Europe's pisspoor understanding of clean and efficient nuclear power generatuon, not us making fun of the fact you are experiencing rolling blackouts because you can't understand how we do it so well.
>>538026216>>538025219
>>538026087You're right - I stand corrected - though that could still be beyond the remit of the commissioning government.>>538026147The interest on the loan and cost overruns mean a long time before they are profitable.
>>538025270why is nobody questioning this image
>>538026050For reference pumped storage seems to take like 3.5-4 MILLION liters of water per MWh on a really rather decent drop of like 500M or so.Again, not quite the same. You could use the same nuclear power in small parts for nuclear power, but you'd probably again work with cisterns, the water from the pumped storage is a bit much.
>>538026264>The interest on the loan and cost overruns mean a long time before they are profitable.And france is currently proving that after 40 years, extreme modernization measures are needed.
>>538021744this is AI slop surely. That's not how rivers work.
EU should just ban fossil fuel vehicles without any deadlines. Just declare that privately owned vehicles are not allowed on the road in a month and that owners should sell them to the scrapyard for the price of scrap metal.
>>538026280I wasn't entirely serious about that. A friend and I once calculated whether it would be feasible to build artificially raised water basins along the rhine and thus solve the electricity storage problem. But somehow we couldn't arrive at a satisfactory calculation.
>>538026400They'll renew them. Once they've got the design sorted they'll knock them out like little breads.That'll keep the costs down.
>>538024618So if the ice melts we're good? If it's saying above waterline effects it the most aren't we safe since icebergs are mainly underwater?
>>538022710>i have never driven a car in my lifeOk.Anyways, that was mechanic lingo. Way to out yourself as...whatever the fuck you are.
>>538024306Thank you for the explanation. Maybe in just ignorant but 25C seems like kind of a low temperature for issues to occur. The key is the difference between the steam and the water temperature, right? At 25C it would still be very well below evaporating, is there some physics nonsense at play that I don't know about, or do they just need the water to be able to carry off that large of an amount of heat in case of an emergency?
>>538021744You don't have a nuclear reactor in your home. Buy an AC or stop crying
>>538024618That would be a sensible argument if we were talking about arctic ice. Ice in water takes up the same volume as the molten water does. Do youre right that polar caps melting doesn't raise the sea level. Water or ice currently laying on land could raise the sea level is enough of it ends up in the sea though.
How come the engineers didn't build them to take into account possibility of temperature extremes.
>>538026775Evidently they did, given it triggered a shutdown
>>538021744
>>538026466ya you probably want at least a decent sized hill to build the pumped storage on"along the rhine" in germany there would be some locations even some that were planned 20y+ ago. but then germany did the big brain move of not figuring out how they'd pay them reasonably to operate so they weren't built and IIRC even an existing pumped storage was taken out of operation, some mad thing with how they evened out prices with gas
>>538026675>>538023201They dump the hot(ter) water in the river so greens cried to the moon and back how anything more than X degrees would hurt muh fish and muh algaes and somehow got their way into national legislation. Then every year in the summer they use the issues they themself created to bash nuclear energy. Yes it's dumb and yes it happened. Welcome to the magical world of nuclear industry regulations.
>>538021744Global warming isn’t real you dumb tranny.
>>538021785Bet that river would feel cool jumping in it.Reactors have to boil water....Is the water already literally boiling? That would axtuslly be fine as the steam turns the turbines.What the fuck is this article even?Someone non schizo explain this artificial scarcity to me, what am I missing.
>>538021744We have nuclear reactors running in hotter temperatures. You are only reducing output/shutting them down temporarily because of environmental regs during the heat wave, not because the equipment is getting too hot and can't operate.
>>538022226FRANCE BORDERS THE SEA
>>538021744The water isn't "too hot."They just don't want to kill the fish.Fuck them fish.
>>538027166>FRANCE BORDERS THE SEAThey just want you to believe that.
>>538027202Just let radioactive materiel Into the ocean where people eat from
>>538027409It's already been done o.o? Actually multiple times..
>>538027105>In a sign of the severity of this summer’s record heat, one of the two reactors at Connecticut’s only nuclear power plant has been shut down due to historically high water temperatures in Long Island Sound, source of the facility’s cooling water.>Unit 2 of Millstone Power Plant near New London was shut down Sunday afternoon after temperatures in the sound exceeded 75 degrees for 24 hours, the maximum temperature at which the nuclear power plant has permits to extract cooling water for the unit, said Ken Holt, spokesman for plant operator Dominion.>https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/record-warm-water-in-long-island-sound-shuts-down-connecticut-nuclear-power-plantThe nuclear regulatory authority mandates a cool safety buffer, based on which the temperature at which this buffer is guaranteed is calculated. While they could go higher, they might then lack sufficient cooling in an emergency. Furthermore, there are of course environmental regulations, which I admittedly underestimated at the beginning of this thread.
>>538027409What radioactive materials?I've lived and bathed near this for years and there is nothing in the water.
>>538027409Up until the eightties, europe dumped its nuclear waste into the english channel.
>>538021744>iran taking out haarp installations in the middle east >middle east getting its rain back>record heat wave in europe.>india burning upfunny coincidence.
>>538027581The separate water systems in the nuclear power plant should prevent radioactivity from escaping. But maybe you should still take a geiger counter with you to test it.
>>538027581Maybe that's why you are dumb enough to support it
>>538027628No wonder the English look like they do
>>538027409That's not how any of that works. Put a meme flag up if you're going to be retarded, I'm trying to stunt on the frogs.
>>538021744It's the same every summer. We have a common Electricity system in Europe. We compensate. Nothingburger.
>>538022361What exactly should happen?It just cools down and stops producing steam and you buy electricity from Russia instead.
>>538027815There was shrimp last year that was recalled for being radioactive
>>538027581He's just being retarded, obviously there's heat exchangers separating the reactor coolant and river water.
>>538028025I member. It came from somewhere near indonesia. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a consequence of the enormous amounts of contaminated water the japanese are dumping into the sea. In any case, I haven't eaten any fish from that region since fukushima.
>>538024244CheckedThe star stands for "ilat"
>>538028025>>538028191No. It was from a Scrap Metal plant who just burnt whatever and got into the ventilation system and then over the Industrial park that also had the Shrimp factory. It was like when those scrap metal scavengers in Brazil back in 1987 looted a radiotherapy device and got their families killed. Don't melt or go near used medical equipment.
>>538021910 It's worse than that, it's all a scam. I'll bet dollars to donuts it's either an excuse to hike prices or secure a greater share of the market for green energy companies. The same thing happens here but America has easier access to emergency fossil fuels and more money to throw at the problem.
>>538027105>Reactors have to boil water....>Is the water already literally boiling? That would axtuslly be fine as the steam turns the turbines.>t. Anatoly Alexandrov
Based eurobrains can just buy the russian gas resold 3 times the cost
>>538024716Im still pro nuclear, I just think we should build reactors with a lot of redundancies to avoid problems. I was just reading about how they use a closed loop system for cooling closer to the equator. Using that seems more robust. I think power is so important we can accept creating it at a cost because of how much value it adds to other industries
>>538027717here, take mine
Hey Eurokikes. It’s time to shut up. Americhamps are awake
>>538027581enjoy your super powers king
>>538022223>tdsLol rent free, europoor. Just relax and cool off. Turn up the AC or something if you're so hot. That's what I'll do. You can do that, right? Turn up the AC?
Jesus imagine that, europe can't handle heat that is the normal here every summer.
>>538023176>a dumb euro-nigger calling others niggersLol. Lmfao, dude take a chill pill. Can you even afford chill pills, or did your daddy government regulate those too?
>>538029713You're infact replying to the country flag known as Chad, in Africa. Not Romania.
>>538021955>be a retard>ignore your own bodies warning signs>die like a retarduh, okay?
>>538029866Face it, the normal euro does not know what to do once temps go beyond 40+ and ontop of that your buildings are insulated to keep in the warmth during winter months, but that also traps the heat in during summer. And with no AC, your governments just want you to suffer. How does that make you feel?
>>538030003I'm cool about it
>>538026089Antarctica is an archipelago
>>538021744>AC for the NUCLEAR FUCKING REACTORSFucking retard. That is literally what the river is for. For cooling the system down.
>>538025933The chinks aren't going all in on nuclear because they don't have to, they have infinite land and rivers to build whatever the fuck they want, and putting all of their chips on the same thing is retarded.
>>538030059These things are always severely underpowered, but I'm glad you've got something anon. At least one of you will live
>>538029787>>538030003>jeet doesn't know that his host nation has no nuclear power plants
>>538022109Ice melting will never change ocean levels. You can prove this yourself at scale, fill a glass of ice, then top it off with water. Get back to me when the melted ice overflows the glass. Spoiler, it never will, because you're retarded.
>>538030900They have a fairly clear plan. A few percent nuclear power as a baseline, solar and wind as the main sources. Coal-fired power plants as standby and vast quantities of batteries as buffers. At least, that's what their development plan says.
>>538031688You need to distinguish between land ice and sea ice.
>>538026265>why is nobody questioning this imageIt's real: https://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2018/10/01/01002-20181001ARTFIG00262-depuis-juin-six-coups-de-com-d-emmanuel-macron-se-sont-retournes-contre-lui.php
>>538031540There's no point going overboard, it's needed 3 weeks a year.It's good enough.
>>538022103We have a reactor just south of Minneapolis on the Mississippi River that pulls water in from the river. The river here in July might hit 80F during a warm spell. Never has it closed down because of water.
>>538021744just put cold water from the sink in the river easy lol euros so silly
>>538022109I live over 1 mile above sea level. It will never flood here.
>>538022355just retract some of the fuel rods from the reactor core, they all must be designed so you can do that to prevent a meltdown anyway
>>538021744Just dump the water into the river anyway. It's not like it's going to be so hot that the river is going to evaporate. If it gets too hot for the fish, well ... they do have time the rest of the year, once the heat wave is over, to repopulate.
>>538031876The sea level hasn't risen at all. The heckin ice caps melting was a complete psy-op. Notice they don't even use that talking point anymore.
>>538021744TIL nuclear power plants can't work in Florida. I didn't know that!
>>538021785Agreed. These primitives are no better than indians. They're still stuck in the dark ages they caused by killing Rome for kikes.
>>538026216>Soccer blue!fucking kek
>>538022109This may shock you but your tiny little view of the world is laughably parochial. America has temperatures over what you're complaining about every single year in almost every state. You're like little children who are just discovering the planet. I can not for the life of me understand why europeans are so preachy when you guys are so fucking backward. The more I learn about you the more you seem like brazil or some other latin american shithole. And I don't just mean your country. I mean the whole continent.
>>538022103>hot for a week>flowing river too hotsomehow our bodies of water don't warm enough to shut down our nuclear reactors despite it being just as hot as your heatwave for weeks and colder than your winters for months. it's 39c for the next week.
>>538021744>eurotrash can't into heat pumps and has shitty third world tier infrastructure that has to shut down because of inherent design flawspitifulno wonder we landed on the moon first
>>538038549>muh fragile nuclear
>>538039235In defense when it comes to cold weather ice buildup at the intakes is a genuine issue, but generally compensatory actions can be taken and you don't need to shut down the plant.
>>538022355The lake/river water itself is actively heated by the time it reaches the steam condensor to avoid thermal shock damaging the plant. If I had to guess the reasoning is likely environmental in nature as if the lake is 80 degrees you don't want to shoot out more warm water to boost it to 90 degrees. Of ciurse cooling towers can heavily mitigate this and if your water source is big enough it quickly becomes a non-issue. Dumping 10,000 gallons a minute of 100 degree water won't heat up the entire Mississippi river much.>>538035818No? I don't think any plants are designed like that? Do you mean lower control rods? If so that would result in a partial downpower anyway and generally speaking it's easier to just fully downpower than to hold a reactor at say 80%. Military reactors are designed to run effectively at partial power and suddenly up-power or downpower, for commercial reactors it makes the system less stable and increases wear.
>>538022107Wish swim up the water outlet because it's warmer and get jammed in the pipes, we had millions of fish we had to move to a dug out put we just had a vacuum truck going all day suckin these things out
>>538030059Can you link me to that product? I am curious.
>>538029109Whats the highest you've seen? I've seen a bit over 6 sv
>>538030003Go to the river and roll in the jeet shit/mud lmao
>>538042324Who cares about wear and tear when you have no power and people are dying lmao technology is supposed to extend our life we arent supposed to die to keep technology safe.
>>538021923based
>>538021923already done stealing all the babies gypo?
>>538022103sounds like bad engineering
>westoids cant handle a bit of heatnatural selection
General question if Europeans don't like our AC, why not do the Japanese version of AC? Is it a pride thing at this point, they dont want to be told they were wrong? Seems like an easy fix
>>538044374everyone has AC here, stop falling for the trolls
>>538022111>No they aren’t they just designed their cooling badly (little tolerance) or they are exaggeratingThisIt was a design decision. Some retard at some point in the design said:>"no le'ts not design them for that once in a decade heatwave because that will increase costs by 1% and I won't get my bonus for staying below budget"
>>538022959>Be sure that if you build something "controversial" (like a road, or a factory), green activits will be quickAbsolutely. Because of green terrorists the highway that connects Sofia to Greece is not finished. Green activists have been sabotaging it for more than 20 yeaes
>>538044566img living in the UK lol
>>538021744Nuclear reactors are cooled by those big towers you see. All the steam collects and evaporates pulling out heat from the entire system.
>>538044747its constantly raining there, why would they have AC
>>538021744>Can we get AC for the NUCLEAR FUCKING REACTORS too?you laugh but this exists - https://www.nuclear-power.com/nuclear-power-plant/containment-building/ice-condenser-containment-building/
>>538021744Your frencheies are so silly. You have miles of coastline with zero chance of earthquake/tsunami but still chose to build your reactors with river water cooling..
>>538044815cause its 90F in London this week
>>538044977a fan can work this out
>>538022621FUN FACT: Here in lovely Minnesota, we routinely experience large fish die offs whenever the Monticello NPP shuts down for any reason.The fish survive the winter in the coolant water and suddenly freeze to death when the reactor does dark.https://www.hometownsource.com/press_and_news/community/albertville/mpca-monticello-plant-shutdown-led-to-fish-kill-in-mississippi-river/article_eadb693b-795f-4e00-8553-19c6574954db.html
>>538044945>what is a power gridok retard
>>538021744The more I hear from yurotards, the more I realize they are just superstitious third worlders no better than Koreans who believe in “fan death” or Africans who think bald men have gold in their heads
>>538045198he is just begging for some crumbs of the french electrical grid, now that he is out of the EU
>>538043525Better to have no power for 1 week and regular power for 40 years then to have regular power for that 1 week but the plant has to be decomissioned after 20 years because the repairs from constantly running it at 80% power during the summer. Also failed fuel which would mean all of your generated waste would be contaminated as hell with alpha which makes removal and disposal more difficult and expensive.
>>538045327good for him, it's coming
>>538021744yeah well no wonder shits not going anywhereits not like its some sci-fi alien technology not burning up the atmosphere constantlywhere the aliens at?
>>538022763Absorbtion refrigeration is a thing - i.e. using heat to cool something. Its how propane fridges work.You most certainly could couple a thermal exchanger to utilize waste heat from powerplants for district heating and cooling. Of course it involves a lot of investment capital
>>538021744Kek
>>538021744lol fucking retards, the water is pushing 80*f. if you're safety buffer cannot account for 80*f inlet water to run a nukes cooling operations you have no business w/a nuke plant in the first place. retarded fucking europoors don't realize you're own countries are causing the very electrical issues you are faced with this very daythank Christ I was born White in Texas>A nuclear reactor can operate with an 85°F inlet cooling water temperature. Because reactors use internal temperatures ranging from 550°F to 600°F for the steam cycle, 85°F water is still cold enough to provide adequate cooling and maintain operations.
>>538021744>water too hotIt's called steam, try pumping faster and putting a generator on top of it.
>>538026904Idiot.
>>538029866>be modern western woman>hate boundaries more than anything>end up getting your shit wrecked
>>538021955did you also believe all of the>died with covidlies or were you spreading them yourself back then too?
>>538046418lol tree hugging faggot. i've made more money off my mineral leases in the last 18 months than off all other investments minus silver in the last 18 years. my livelyhood is direcly dependant on hydrocarbons going brrrr w/the co2 lol, lmao even oh and they are deposits like spindletop, all on the Texas Coast, not some bullshit "tight" deposit. you're infographic is fake and gay.
>>538021785It's the same in usa, idiot
>>538022687>1.4% reduction.Oh so it's nothing. Just people excited to put something being TOO HOT in a headline
>>538021923Don’t you have someone to surrender to stupid frenchie??
>>538023020>tummyWhy are you in Europe, shitskin?
>>538046734are you actually retarded to even read flags?also didn't you just surrender to fucking sandniggers from Iran lmao?
>>538027409Nobody tell him
>>538046807>hurrr you surrendered to iranfound the kike!
>>538045106What the fuck, that's kinda neat.
>>538046807Flags or did you mean fags? Dumb frenchies.
>>538046886>loses to vietnam bugmen>loses to niggers>loses to afghanistan goat fuckers>loses to iran shitkinshonononono
>>538021744Bore OFF fuck OFFctrl + alt + delete and press Enter
>>538046711I didn't read your post, but why are so many boomers trannies?
>>538044771Unsure if joking or retarded
