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AMLO be like

> Hey Spain, i know there are some historical grievences between you and me, but lets leave that behind with some symbolical apology and lets create a New pan hispanic union in order to face the anglo -chinese hegemonies

Spaniards be like

> Fuck you Panchito tiraflechas, your ancestors we're cannibals, be thankful we civilized you and mixed with You, however we should had exterminated You
Why are they like this? Have Manolos always been this bad regarding diplomacy?
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The Anglos don't hate us more than you do, what's even the point.
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Apology for what? Destroying the Aztec Empire?
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>>538021988
>pan hispanic union
0 + 0 is still 0 you dumb hispanchito
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>>538021990
Slavery and shit
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>>538021988
>lets create a New pan hispanic union in order to face the anglo -chinese hegemonies
AMLO was openly proposing a pan American union including the USA and Canada, he was trying to convince the americans it was good for them because it would help compete with china.
He said this openly on numerous occasions, it had me screaming in anger, how do people ignore this baffles me. Had Enrique Peña Nieto said this chairos would have been calling him a vende patrias puppet.
And Vicente Fox actually endorsed this first when he was president, it was ALCA.
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>>538021992
So? The Aztecs had slaves too. Have you apologized for human sacrifices?
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>>538021994
>So?
Slavery is bad, mmkay
>The Aztecs had slaves too.
And that was bad too
>Have you apologized for human sacrifices?
To whom?
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>>538021993
America is a democratic republic of free and equal men, historically founded in opposition to european monarchies. If you cant understand why AMLEL wanted a north american union you havent read AMLEL books or listened to him at all
He is 100% pro america, all he wanted in return was respect to our sovereignty
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>>538021996
>America is a democratic republic of free and equal men
Lol, lmao
>If you cant understand why AMLEL wanted a north american union you havent read AMLEL books or listened to him at all
Correct I never read any of his books and I do no intent to, I did listened to him and thats why I noticed shit I don't see anyone talking about, I do not care to understand him.
>He is 100% pro america, all he wanted in return was respect to our sovereignty
Youre an idiot. There is no such thing as respect to our sovereignty when dealing with america, you would understand this with just basic grasp of reality.
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With shit like this you realize how normies entire worldview is pure narrative, reality be damned. Mexicans grew up identifying with the Aztecs (a modern post-independence romanticism movement) and so view us as oppressors, totally ridiculous considering the historical circumstances of all the events and the fact that this all happened 500 years ago and Spaniards haven't been there since the early 1800's.

Also, this whole apology game is a gult-trap inverted power-play, fuck you. No one with good will comes at you demanding an apology for something that happened centuries ago in a completely different world.
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>>538021992
Then why isn't amlo paying reparaishuns?, he and all the criollos literally descend from the slave owners.
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>>538021997
>Correct I never read any of his books
Peak anti intellectual hispanchismo mindset
Wether you like him or not, he was the president of a country of 120+ million people and you are a faggot in 4chan
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>>538021993
>AMLO was openly proposing a pan American union including the USA and Canada

You obviously don't understand AMLO. He wanted to create La Patria Grande and Bolivar's dream.

He naturally understood that in order to do so he had to reconcile the Indian with the hispanic element.

A grandiose ceremony of reconciliation with all LATAM states where the Kingship of Spain was present would had had tremendous political significance

In this regard, the Spanish King played the dirty game of the anglos by block-cocking one of the first steps to unite all latam.

AMLO and Felipe VI could had literally changed the course of history
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>>538022001
We don't have to accept your bogus narrative about us being the bad guys in history and thus our apology being necessary to make amends, fuck you, and fuck your retarded indigenist fairy tale.
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>>538022001
That retardo couldnt even stop narco niggers
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>>538022000
>Peak anti intellectual hispanchismo
Youre an idiot too, dont make assumptions. I read and I have long list to get to, AMLOs books dont make the cut.
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>>538022004
The guy who ran a country and handled Trump at his peak didnt make the cut to your list? This is like a parody of an hispanchista. What are you reading then? Some fanfic on a hispanic union that defeats the entire planet and achieves global peace?
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I did the math, I crunched the numbers, and I came to the conclusion that Spain did NOTHING wrong
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>>538022001
AMLO is not God, "understanding" him is not the answer.
Youre so detached from reality I dont think I can have a conversation with you.
But grandiose ceremonies are cool for anime or whatever but thats not how the real world works.
Youre not addressing the point of including USA and Canada and how contradictory that is to your OP.
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>>538022005
If you read him go ahead and do a síntesis of his most valuable contributions in statecraft shown in his books. Otherwise your words are empty.
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>>538022008
Oye Trump and all of the subsequent books are the most important I guess. Next year he will publish another one but it will be a reflection on the political history of the country for the 27884858th time
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>>538022009
Wow, so valuable you can't even remember a core idea from any of them
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>>538022010
Negro its the same shit all over again. What he says in public is what he writes about but with historical notes
1. He is a republican, opposed to lmperialim colonialism racism and all that shit
2. Justice and equality n shiet
3. America must respect Mexico because we are neighbors and brothers
4. Spain bad indians good
5. He loves his dear indians even tho they are retarded
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>>538021988
>and lets create a New pan hispanic union
The faggot closed spanish companies left and right, he genuinely had a grudge against Spaniards but no one knows why. Maybe his grandpa (who was a Spaniard) used to BTFO him when he was a toddler, who knows.
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>>538022011
You have made a very compelling argument as to why is a waste of time to read them
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>>538022013
Again, if you dont find any worth in the words of a real president you are genuinely retarded
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>>538021988
Brutally mogged that mestizo
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>>538021996
>>538022004
>AMLO's books
You are way too naive if you believe AMLO wrote those books. He barely can put two words together into a coherent sentence, let alone write a whole book.
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>>538022016
He is actually very well read. He just acted dumb for the masses
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>>538021988
>New pan hispanic union in order to face the anglo -chinese hegemonies
they just installed another puppet in argentina and sent all the gold to london lmao
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>>538022014
Youre very childish, you keep yelling that they is valuable there because of who he is but you cant present anything valuable you managed to retrieve from it.
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Spics truly are the worst thing the world, everything they touched in the americas turned to shit. Not only are they mongrel from mudslimes centuries ago, they just legalized all illegals to further shit themselves up. Absolutely 3rd world.
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>lets create a New pan hispanic union in order to face the anglo -chinese hegemonies
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>>538022019
*there is value there
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>>538022017
He could have been a bit smarter than your typical MORENA voter, but not by much. AMLO was incredibly charismatic and knew how to win elections, but sucked at everything else.
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>>538022019
Nigga you dumb. His words are valuable because they are an explanation of why he ruled like he ruled. This is realpolitik. He is not being a snob philosopher. He ks telling you HOW and WHY he ruled
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>>538022015
he is genetically spanish
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>>538021995
>To whom?
Have a genetic test made nation wide and Mexicans will pay reparations to each other to the degree to which they're descended from opressive or opressed tribes.
This can be done with modern technology. If leftoids were really serious, they'd be proposing this kind of thing, but no, they just want gibs.
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>>538022024
Did you read the books? Because Im getting the sense you didn't, Im not demanding for philosophical contributions only (if he has them I would to see them). Im just asking you for anything of value you got from "reading" them and you have nothing.
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>>538021988
>> Fuck you Panchito tiraflechas, your ancestors we're cannibals, be thankful we civilized you and mixed with You, however we should had exterminated You
Nobody has ever said this outside of 4chan. You are complaining about an imaginary scenario that only exists in your head.

>>538021998
Yeah, it's stupid considering they are the ones that descend from the conquerors and explorers.
This victim mentality is also one of the reasons most of LatAm is a shithole.
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>>538022027
You could for once understand why he hates spain and likes america for example. Its all about republicanism
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>>538022029
Did YOU find value in understanding why he hates Spain?
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>>538022030
Of course nigger? He raped spanish companies for fun when he was president, and his books are the explanation of why. Why cant you understand that AMLO writes about what moved him? The next decades will be determined by his mindset
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I'm compiling a list of all the colonial churches in Mexico, starting with Mexico City and Puebla. I've discovered that parishes with large domes and neoclassical decoration are concentrated in Mexico City, while the parishes in Puebla tend to be longer with taller towers and generally Baroque decoration. Around the cities, the predominant style is Plateresque, from the 16th century, the oldest in the country.
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>>538022031
>Of course nigger?
How was that valuable to you?
>He raped spanish companies for fun when he was president
He bought Iberdrola and he CEO of Iberdrola seemed pretty happy about it smiling next to him on camera.
>Why cant you understand that AMLO writes about what moved him? The next decades will be determined by his mindset
You fail to understand that he is not president anymore and he is not a system builder, nor a builder of ideology he didn't leave his succesors a formula or algorithm to follow. So no the next decades won't be shaped by his thoughts.
I asked you a simple question of what value you got and so far you have failed to answer in any basic sense.
Knowing why amlo "hates" Spain is valuable because it just is. No bitch.
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>>538022028
>Nobody has ever said this outside of 4chan. You are complaining about an imaginary scenario that only exists in your head.
it's basically what the president of madrid said when she came here on her zionist tour
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>>538022033
Republicanism nigger. The resume of AMLEL is republicanism. He has been talking about republicanism every day of his life. Thats his message, that was his more beloved idea, republicanism. Thats the main message you obtuse nigger. Thats the core idea. A republic. The mexican republic. He explains WHY and HOW he ruled to strengthen the republic. He develops complementary ideas to the mexican republic. The main idea, the main value, what he was always talking about is the republic
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>>538022034
Mexico should have cut off all relationships with spain over that bitch desu. Its annoying how much of a bitch every politician is
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>>538022035
Amazing how you think youre answering the question but you arent. I hope youre failing on purpose.
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>>538021998
Also, this whole apology game is a gult-trap inverted power-play, fuck you. No one with good will comes at you demanding an apology for something that happened centuries ago in a completely different world.
To my recollection of events, it was private talks between the two governments, if Spain said no, then that would have been the end of it and no one would have heard anything about it, but it was leaked supposedly by someone from the Spanish side.
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>>538022001
>You obviously don't understand AMLO. He wanted to create La Patria Grande and Bolivar's dream.
lol, he basically pissed half of latam countries, he did a very bad job at integrating the region
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As a tejano with family ties to the land dating to the early 1800s and the founding of the Republic, I just want to say I'm better than the both of you



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