>>538047383White people build shit just to break it later. It's our greatest achievement in history. We build things and create wonderful culture and technology and other things, then destroy it due to petty disagreements and self-hatred. It gets bad for a long time then eventually a fascist takes over, kills all the problem people, and the cycle begins anew.
>TROOP GUY>MILITARY>THING FROM YOUR CHILDHOOD>ESTABLISHMENT GOODcontent slop
>>538047383>I KINDA MISS CAPITALISMUhhh, this is exactly what capitalism is supposed to look like: trillionaires and a gigantic slave underclass.
>>538047383this guy looks like he has sex with underage fans. it's unnatural to behave so much like a young person at his age.
>>538047383This guy should stick to only making music. Most of his videos are really embarrassing.
>>538048221>Describes communismLmao every time
>>538047383>I miss capitalismNobody tell him
>>538048221>giving bailouts to big companies using tax dollars is just late-stage capitalism!>and malignant tumors are called late-stage health
>>538047711The destruction part is literally jews every single time.
>>538047383Youtube must be pushing that gay video because i saw it pop up on my recommended.
>>538047383I swear this dude is aging ten times faster than anyone else, his vids on stuff like meshtastic etc are good springboards, everything else is a bit cringe.>>538048823>SurinameRARE
>>538047711>kills all the problem peopleCool it with the anti-semitism.
>>538049054>>538049133>i-it wasn't real capitalism!The government is just a private company that gets routinely bought by the richest people in society.
>>538049105>He thinks the current system is capitalism Nobody tell him
>>538048221>capitalism is the government granting money printing power to a select few who then buy the entire business world and real estate market while making everyone who just got robbed pay for the wealth transfer through inflation.You aren't really this dumb, are you? We aren't capitalist, we haven't been capitalist for over 100 years.
>>538048823his music is god awful
>>538049329>>538049271Like clockwork.
>>538047383He is gay and has no children to buy toys forToys R Us went out of business because suburban moms would rather order off Amazon. It was literally capitalism
>>538049271Right that's what happens under communism, the party members all become super rich by controlling the state and looting the country, and the defining trait of capitalism(upward mobility for the poor to become wealthy), is gone.
>>538047383Yes why do people care about these faggot YouTubers, good question OP
>>538049370Haha yeah I haven't even listened to anything from him. Probably just diet IDM/drill n bass shit but still better than his youtube videos.
>>538048221>>538049394You're wasting your time trying to explain it to the average golems. They have 0 self awareness and never will- and only enough willpower to play these stupid sophist semantic games on the internet then go back to work for Mr. Nosenstein.
>>538047383That guy is gay guitar annoying… which makes him suspicious misinformation. Why hack a flock camera when you can just run it over
>>538049451>the defining trait of capitalism(upward mobility for the poor to become wealthy)Poor people were significantly richer during feudalism, given that there wasn't nearly as much wealth inequality.
>>538049394If you're so accustomed to being called out, why is your response such trash?
>>538049329Yea that's the logical endpoint of it.>muh not REAL crapitalism
>>538047383I kinda miss Battousai teh Manslayer. Take me back to the Meiji Period bros
>>538048823his music is absolutely forgettable, so he needed another gigother than that, i agree with the statement
>>538047383watched this video. he has some good stuff about the gold standard and petrodollar and nixon in there. pretty good for a video directed toward normal non-political people
>>538049684Capitalism is all that exists. There is capitalism in prison and on the most communistic kibbutz. Socialism/communism/feudalism is a just fast track capitalism for the elite. It’s a trick they play on you. No one ever stops being capitalist, ever, and you can’t make them no matter how many you kill
>>538049054Real capitalism has never been tried right?Whatever we call ourselves we suck
He didn't really say it out loud, but the "capitalist" issue with our modern system isn't necessarily the policies which are maybe capitalism and maybe not, but with the orientation towards profit that prevents us from adequately addressing any of the issues. All of the people in here who will say >Not real capitalism!will still line up to play defense for the same billionaires, hedge funds, Jews and oligarchs that they claim are subverting beautiful, beautiful capitalism. In a system where capitalism is a moral good rather than just a set of policies, money is justice, and those people still have the biggest piles of money whether it was rightly got or not. And the plebs looking on from the suburbs of America are still mentally the temporarily embarrassed billionaires who don't want anything effective done to save capitalism because it would theoretically harm their ability to succeed should they ever get to that level. And also they associate hatred of the rich with lefties that they already don't like, so they reaction formation in defense of the rich, even ones they explicitly will say they oppose.>>538049451>and the defining trait of capitalism(upward mobility for the poor to become wealthy)The defining trait of capitalism is the centrality of capital, stored-up wealth which can be spent to generate more wealth and its ability to rule the economy. Anything else has to be written into it by force. This is the blurring that results in the idea that capitalism = virtuous goodness and communism = mean badness, and it blurs the other way, leading to a mindset where>Policies I like are capitalist because capitalist = good, and policies I don't like are communism because communism = bad!None of these words mean these things and none of them should have moral weight in your skull. Things that are good or bad are good or bad irrespective of being "socialist" or "capitalist."
>>538049684No part of capitalism permits robbing the entire nation of ~3% of their wealth every single year to be redistributed to kikes.So no, it really isn't real capitalism. It was over 100 years ago, but it isn't now. Can we at least fucking admit that much before we demonize the concept of capitalism and play right into the jews' hands with their UBI communism agenda?
>>538048221ummm no sweaty actually it's CRONYISM wait no it's CORPORATISM wait no actually it was COMMUNISM all along! *points gangrened diabeetus finger at gubmint*and that's why we need EVEN LESS REGULATION!!!
What people are upset is about is neoliberalism specifically. Capitalism could work just fine in its late stages IF monopolies and collusion are kept in check by government regulation (which Adam Smith stresses is essential). Neoliberals believe that government interference in the free market is demonic, so they unshackle business to do whatever it wants. Thus, we have a hilariously uncompetitive environment in which mergers are abundant and everyone is buying back their own stock to inflate shareholder value. Thank you Reagan, thank you Thatcher, and thank you Friedman. Rest in piss
>>538049329>>538049683>capitalism is the government granting money printing power to a select fewWho are these "select few"? It's not random people. It's rich people. They all buy the government in pure capitalist fashion. The game is not rigged, it works exactly as intended; you're just bad at it.
>>538047383ah sweet schizo AI slop
>>538049927>>538049271Your shithole society is communist. Regulations on small businesses- communist. Gun bans- communist. Jews in power- communist. Hitler was right.
>>538049054>real capitalism hasn't been tried yetJust shut the fuck up already.
>>538050038This is correct. We forgot capitalism as something that delivers a result which we judge to be good for reasons outside of capitalism, and starting thinking capitalism itself is an inherent good - that the point of our lives is to sacrifice ourselves to maintain a system that can be called maximally capitalist.Economic systems should not be considered moral systems.
>>538050289Your shithole bolshevik nation is communist.
>>538050072You can pay someone to murder your business competitors, but that's not capitalism. Capitalism is all about satisfying markets and beating competitors through better prices or offerings, it isn't removing the competition, or putting government force behind a monopoly. I don't think you're as stupid as you're pretending to be.
>>538050220>Regulations on small businesses>Gun bans>Jews in powerHitler was literally in favor of all those things.
>>538049314>>538049133>>538049054>>538050220>>538050385>Thats not real capitalism real capitalism has never been tried>But also I will defend this system to the death even though it's heckin' communism which I supposedly hate
>>538050394>You can pay someone to murder your business competitorsthats lilerally based Kenshins job
>>538050296>Economic systems should not be considered moral systems.But that’s required. Anticapitalism is just a fight against the human condition. It takes a lot of re-education to convince people to stop wanting bigger and better things, and they still don’t do it so you have to kill them. And you just have to *trust* your leaders are sufficiently zealous in their fight against their own human condition (spoiler: they aren’t)
>>538049594You’re probably stupid enough to think this post has any substance. It doesn’t. You delivered a long winded insult as though it was an argument. You’re genuinely too stupid to tell the difference, aren’t you?
>>538050394Human life is just another resource to be managed through capital. Under capitalism, you can undercut the prices of your competition, just like you can steal their suppliers, sabotage their productivity, blackmail them into giving up, or yes, even kill them. Who is going to uphold laws without a government (i.e. COMMUNISM) anyway?
>>538050296>Economic systems should not be considered moral systems.I could not agree more. It’s worth remembering that all of these early capitalists stressed the importance of a morally healthy society and a strong moral education, without which capitalism would fall victim to total corruption. The neoliberal turn convinced everyone that market freedom is a prerequisite for any kind of freedom, and is valuable in itself, when, as you say, a moral society is actually that prerequisite. The rabid zealotry for a free market at all costs is really the result of a carefully planned and executed propaganda campaign. Even just cursory research into policy in the 1980’s reveals that to be true, and we’ve been in that shadow ever since.
>>538049962>The defining trait of capitalism is the centrality of capitalI can’t tell what you’re trying to say here. Do you mean that accumulation by the owners of the most capital is fundamental? Or that “capital” as privately owned interests are central? Neither supports the rest of your argument by the way.
>>538048221>>538049594>>538050021It's jews>inb4 mass cope about how it's not really jews it's [amorphous invisible system that exclusively benefits jews and their shabbos goys]
>>538050296Okay, you’re clearly smart but very confused about these concepts. Communism is, at its very core, the substitute of material conditions for moral systems. The central thesis is that when the masses have higher quality material conditions then the system is more virtuous. Yours is a complete and totally fundamental misunderstanding.
>>538050719You didn't address my point.
>>538050719>erm under capitalism there are no lawsYou are just a plain fucking retard. There isn’t any spark of cleverness to you unlike the other confused poster.
>>538047736hmm............yes
>>538050385>shithole bolshevik nation is communist>says the fellow AmerimuttIf you truly believe the US is now a communist state why are you going along with it? Why are you still paying taxes and being some cattle for a "communist" machine? Doesn't that make you a cuck that won't fight for REAL capitalism as your dumbass puts it?Dumbass if you believe this is "communism" and not the final stage of capitalism you basically laid flat and let "communism" win without firing a shot.
>>538049054Mutt education at work
>>538050719We cannot possibly be “under” anything else.You can call it something else, but you have not actually convinced people. You cannot change the hearts of humans. No matter how many books I read and classes I attend, I’m still going to want to work for better things, I’m still going to feel I deserve more than some others and I’m still going to take that opportunity when it arises. And so are you and so is everyone else. The reason China and Russia will never be “real” communism is because that is impossible. You can never just say “we communist now” and implement real communism because everyone will cheat and try to be capitalist because that is basic human nature. It’s not ever going to change
>>53804945190% of millennials own their own homes in China. Can you say the same?
So nobody in this thread actually watched the video huh
>>538050855>>538050934You are unable to draw a line between capitalism and communism.If government intervention is communism, then capitalism has to logically be either lawless or communism.
>>538047383This was actually a great video and well worth the time.
>>538047383Every aging economic system (or political structure) decays over time into cronyism. Unfortunately this is cyclical and it takes a revolutionary of one kind or another to initiate the collapse or revolution that resets that system to a more functional standard. The US hasn't had such a figurehead since Theodore Roosevelt. And there's nobody waiting in the wings currently to do what is needed.
>>538047383Capitalism was always lipstick on a pig
>>538049594only because the government became all grifting jews
>>538047383This guy is the biggest faggot. One of those “you must not simply be anti-trans, but pro-trans!" This kike and red means recording epitomize the worst of music-adjacent jewtubers>>538049449Toys R Us was destroyed by private equity, classic example of new ownership taking loans against a purchased entity and walking away with the money as they collapse. For the music-angle of this thread: Native Instruments is going to go this route shortly
>>538049194This
Bit strange to see anons equating communism with government intervention when communism is, in theory, a stateless society. What you are describing is socialism.
if you didnt vote left whenever you could then you voted for late stage capitalist hellThe left is what keeps the balance of capitalism from raping average people to death
>>538049649>Poor people were significantly richer during feudalismWhy would you go on the internet and tell lies
>>538051245I tried to watch one of this fag's videos once and it was just pure unadulterated cringereddit loves this guy so it makes sense
>>538051491Toys R Us was fucked way before private equity stepped in but private equity does hollow out the institutions for profit and makes them substantially worse, that’s true. In Toys R Us’s case, there was no hope—they were doomed against Walmart/Amazon. In the case of Panera Bread, they did destroy it, yeah. Just depends.
>>538049594Ayo dat muh nigga wooldor sockbat??? Dem drawn tagether niggas been on muh mind
>>538049054>>538049133>>538049314Companies would just be bailed out by banks they’re in bed with anyways.
>>538047383Lack of morals. The Anglo American are half humans amphibian like Quimeras unable to have rational human thoughts.
>he pronounced coup as coop
>>538047383>no linkWhy is the OP a faggot?
>>538047383>muh conservative camp tough guy larper pushing if not already 50 using zoomer slang like “mid”people like this need to shut the fuck up forever
>>538049271Exactly....I have wasted so much time trying to explain this simple fucking concept to lolbert retards for the last 12 fucking years on this board.
>>538051504>>538049194>>538047711>pigskin version of blaming whiteyI'm starting to think chinks and gooks are superior to pigskins, bro.
>>538053761Yeah white people blaming who's actually responsible is so much more inferior than nons blaming people who didn't do anything to them
>>538053834>blaming someone for outsmarting you and enslaving you I dunno man, you sound like a fucking nigger jeet to me.
>>538049451>upward mobility for the poor to become wealthyIn the past there was plenty of untapped potential that could provide poor yet talented people a foot in the wealth ladder, but now everything has been minmaxxed and is getting milked dry by rootless, ultra wealthy kikes. So it's not communism that led to this. Of course, communism would have led to something just as bad or maybe worse, since capitalism and communism are two sides of the same globohomo jewish shekel.
>>538049271yeah we haven't had that since 1945
>>538051245The video is way over the heads of 99% of the mushbrains on this board.
>>538051265>If government intervention is communismWho said that? Robbing people by threating to murder them if they trade using anything but your dollars, then creating dollars out of thin air for yourself is just a complex form of robbery. It is neither capitalism nor communism. Institutionalized robbery, which is what we have, is just slavery with extra steps.
>>538048221We stopped being capitalist in 1913.
>>538053761>RomaniaGood thing no ones give a fuck what you think gypsy nigger
After all the foreigners came to America during the World Cup and loved this place your demoralization campaign took a massive hit. This place is great and everyone knows it.
>>538047383This video is pretty good. Yes, he's a shitlib leftist. Still 90 percent on target.
>>538057341Calm down, mutt. You're not white.
>>538049490>muffin top>tramp stamp>blue hairthat's three strikes
>>538051126>heh, hey kid, wanna-Fed alert>>538050431>hitler badKike alert>>538050539>incoherent ramblingTranny alert
>>538054078>Superior Ubermensch>Constantly being subservient and following the orders willingly to the inferior judenMakes you wonder why that's the case
>>538049054Absolutely delusional
>>538057370Vacations are pretty great aren't they.
>>538059139Yeah, it's retarded. In fact hating a guy for being superior to you and inverting his strength into weaknesses is textbook slave morality according to Nietzsche. This board is full of literal slave brained subhumans.
>>538048221People who don't understand what capitalism is and think it's a magical libertarian free market with no government regulation sure did take issue with this post.
>>538048823>>538049207he's like quadruple vaxxed loli still enjoy pale blue dot and a minority of his tech vids but he's a total hylic goytard otherwise
>>538049054Damn Americans are just stupid. I thought you guys were just trolling, but no, you are just dumb as fuck. As to educate you, in communism, u don't even have a government figure. But why would you know that, u think liberalism is the same as communism, or that it encapsulates what the left is. U are just a dumb idiot running in a mouse wheel, so clueless about the world, just being a moron that thinks he is superior because of the color of his skin, yet fail to be good at anything. Educate yourself anon, fo travel outside your country, realize that your immediate reality is constructed but those who lucrate from your idiocy, and that the world is beyond your entitled faggot opinion.
>>538054078So by your logic if someone enslaves you, you would just accept it and be okay with living in hell? And you wouldn't strive to be better? And you think you're not the inferior one here?
>>538051126>If you truly believe the US is now a communist state why are you going along with it?I'm outnumbered 100 to 1 by goylem trash with guns who aren't letting me not pay taxes.
>>538059272Makes sense why they are the bestest of goyim
>>538049271You only got it half right.The government is the biggest private company with a monopoly on the initiation of violence. The violence is what makes it different from a normal business.We need a free market in defense. We should have multiple competing 'governments' that we can opt out of at any time, then the private defense companies will be forced to treat their customers (the citizens) well due to a competitive market rather than a monopoly dictatorship.
>>538059396The poster himself doesn't understand what capitalism is, or he would know better than to think the current system is capitalist
>>538059520>communism is actually the fairy tale land that communists believe inOh ok
>>538059708Yep, good goyim.>>538059530You're a slave and you hate your master for owning you. Anglos have been owned by jews for hundreds of years. Even "your" language is a mutt.
>>538051491>>538052059In the case of Toys R Us, the video goes over how they were positioned to still make an effort against Amazon, but then private equity bought them up and made sure they couldn't. Would it have worked? Nobody knows because they weren't allowed to try.Coincidence?
>>538059734>We should have multiple competing 'governments' that we can opt out of at any time, then the private defense companies will be forced to treat their customers (the citizens) well due to a competitive market rather than a monopoly dictatorship.You just described countries.
>>538050847>Communism is, at its very core, the substitute of material conditions for moral systems.And this is a refutation of>>538050296>Economic systems should not be considered moral systems.how? You're just describing the same error but in a whatabout fashion that reads like a kneejerk defense of the system you happen to live under.
>>538059923People somehow forget that Amazon was picked by big money banks to win whenever they talk about different retailers getting swallowed by them. Look up how long they were operating at a loss. Private capital destroyed one while giving free money to another, totally natural market economics!
>>538050757>I can’t tell what you’re trying to say here.It's the definition. Capitalism is an economic theory and system that revolves around the primacy of capital in making all the other parts work. It was stated that the defining article of capitalism is class mobility, which isn't true. It's not required for there to be class mobility for a system to be capitalist. It's a good example of what I'm talking about with economic systems being confused with morality systems, the poster assumes that class mobility; which is just an outcome of a well-managed capitalist system (increasingly absent from our own variety of it); is an inherent part of a system being capitalist because class mobility is le good and capitalism is le good therefore they must be related. But they aren't.And before we get into weeny semantic wars here (I may not scroll by again so it might not matter), I mean capital in its most basic definition, any form of accumulated wealth.
>>538050563>It takes a lot of re-education to convince people to stop wanting bigger and better things,Not really. Humans come from tribal environments with limited resources and existential pressures. As such we all have a natural negative reaction to what we term "greed." People naturally want more but people also naturally have an instinct against excess where it harms others; imagine how you'd feel sitting on a pile of food while your sister next door is starving and refusing to share it. Do you think your tribal neighbors would approve of it because it's bigger and better? This is an instinct that modern capitalists try to beat down with phrases such as >greed is good
>>538059932Now you're getting it!What we want is the total balkanization of countries down to the level of the sovereign individual citizen, slowly but surely, this is happening already, as we move towards this we can form decentralized communities and higher level organizations based on absolute non-aggression and capitalist prosperity.All freedoms come from the right to opt-out, this is the absolute sovereignty of the man.
>>538059911>you hate your master for owning youYou're SUPPOSED to hate people who try to make you work for free, they're literally less than you or they wouldn't need slaves in the first place
>>538047383We're seeing the Soviet system play out in the US in real time: newsflash, it doesn't lead to equal prosperity, simply equal poverty. That's why the country who attempted it with a starting GDP bigger than half of Europe McDied.
>>538047383>>538047736>toys>planes
>>538047383Benn Jordan is an insane leftie but somehow based. He started getting lightly gangstalked for reporting on flock.
>>538047736>>538048823>>538049370>>538049547his music is quite good. he got famous for making acid under Flashbulb/Acidwolf/Human Action Networkhttps://youtu.be/ucM2lW9umVo
>>538061170>We're seeing the Soviet system playA conservative government that cuts all business regulations is Soviet?
Reminder that statism is nothing more than a psychological trick to get you to open your asshole to a bunch of satanist cannibals and without your compliance the satanic system falls over night and relative peace on Earth would be here.
>>538061104>they're literally less than you or they wouldn't need slaves in the first place citation needed
>>538061379Ah yes, sorry we forgot we have no government and no regulation! how silly of us!Socialist tyrants are truly intellectual avant-garde geniuses of our age or whatever.
>>538049637>why disable Flock cameras remotely when you can go at a tall pole with a giant loud saw and get yourself arrested
>>538061406Power is power the second you don't have a state you have created a power vacuum that will be filled. Libertarians are a billionaires favorite tool.
>>538047383The Jew rubs his hands whilst the people endlessly squabble over nonsense whilst ignoring the real mechanisms of enslavement.
>>538061455Citation: You eyeballs. If person A can't feed, clothe, or shelter himself, and needs someone else to do it for him, and person B can do all of that for himself and does not need anyone else to do it for him, person B is observably superior to person A.
>>538061461>Arguing against shit I didn't say
>>538047383>toysrusNO nigga you miss being 10 in 1995
>>538048221>Humans invent new -ism that promises to be "the one" that brings about utopia>ends up being abusive and corrupt >Delusional supporters proceed to scream "BUT ITS NOT REAL -ISM!EveryFuckingTimeIt's time to admit there is no solution to the human problem
>>538050394>You can pay someone to murder your business competitors, but that's not capitalism.it's literally the purest form of capitalism
>>538057341That 'romanian' is a pajeet who got stuck in bucharest and gets called a gypsy every day and has been seething for months now because he can't get into germany.
>>538051922he's absolutely right. You didn't have to work nearly as much to raise a family, nevermind just live. But ohhh bad communism is going to make us slaves boohoo. I'm gonna kick your butt and make you pay for healthcare faggoy
>>538061494Free markets are the ultimate power. Power does not equal state, that is a mind control trick the statists have indoctrinated you into."The state is all powerful comrade! Bow down citizen! You have no hope! Open your asshole!", No, that is a 100% false belief they use to rape you.The free market will crush the tyrants, freedom is extremely powerful, statism is a house of cards, free markets continue to win faster and faster throughout all of history, soon it will gain a total victory, that is why the statist tyrants are panicking and throwing a hysterical fitshit all over the world right now. This is their final strike against the human race. Nobody believes in "taxation is the price of civilization" anymore, good luck.
>>538058935>incoherent ramblingno, it actually makes sense and you got cornered. pick a fucking lane
>>538049258He didn't say Jews, but the fact that's where your mind went says a lot about you.
>>538061706You ever open a history book? Go look up the gilded age.
>>538047711This, well said actually. I noticed the same pattern.
>>538061170Socialism doesn't even produce 'equal poverty', politicians and their cronies drink champagne while the masses eat bugs, i guess it's really 'equal' for the stupid impoverished tyrannized peasants who get raped into serfdom for believing in collective theft and murder.
>>538049449>>538051491he has a wife
>>538048221That's literally what communism has turned into every single time, including your atrocious first run at it. >>5380490548 replies to this absolutely factually correct post and it's nothing but name calling kek
>>538061539You literally said that the government cut all business regulations, you absolutely fucking stupid, lying, statist devil parasite.You are a fucking idiot, a thief, a leech, a bacteria.
>>538060590All corporate welfare should be abolished ASAP. You have never heard a socialist say this BTW. I wonder why.
>>538062022Yes conservative governments cut business regulations that's kinda what they usually run on. The gilded age is an example of the disastrous effects of laissez-faire policies in the average citizen.
>>538058823That's literally Sephiroth.
>>538061812>Look up X time period in historyI'm sorry to inform you this is not an argument.I know that's the form in which your favorite socialist E-celebs debate, but it is entirely invalid, sorry.
>>538062231>Historical examples are not an argumentBwahahahahhaahahhahahahaha no way you actually believe that.
>>538061705>You didn't have to work nearly as much to raise a family, nevermind just liveYeah you did. Stop lying, lmao. American capitalism is what actually accomplished this.
>>538062197I guarantee that the amount of business regulations in the US consistently trends upwards, I think you know this too, you're just a fucking liar who lies about reality to fit his insane genocidal, thieving ideology of death and rape of the underclass.
>>538061535 it's not as easy as saying "no", so this fantasy where the "parasite" instantly loses all of its power and becomes weak isn't probable, that's why the relationship persists and the parasite will keep draining its host
>>538062290If I just say the phrase "Maoist era China" to you, is that an argument?You're an actual fucking moron, an NPC, your ability to even have your own basic thoughts has been raped, wiped out completely, you are an empty vessel now.
>>538062406>this fantasy where the "parasite" instantly loses all of its powerIt never had any of it's own power to begin with, the parasite can't feed clothe and shelter itself, and it needs someone else to do it for it.
>>538047711I'm back ITT to point out that even before jews were part of Europe, Europeans built fantastic culture and contrivances, and we still ended up destroying them over petty disagreements and self-hatred.It's like a sine wave with us. The good times-bad times sine wave. It goes back tens of thousands of years. Fascism is coming once the bad times get serious again, and we'll do it all again.We have tribalism like everyone. It's endemic.
>>538061992I’ve been curious about how the Soviet Economy worked no trying to get at you can you describe it
>>538062297yea everyone is so satisfied with their lives over there, more than ever actually
>>538062306A completely laissez-faire economy will result in monopolies that absolutely shit on your freedom. And they don't even work that well, evidenced by the fact every single economy in the world is a mixed economy. The only way to ensure "capitalism works" is actually enforcing regulations and monopoly laws which the U.S government is not doing which is part of the reason everything is so shit.>>538062433No, but maybe you want to have a discussion about the gilded era and the failings of laissez-faire policies?
>>538049271Both the riches and the politicians are puppets anyway. And the same goes with communism.
>I miss the start of capitalism but not it's jewish end results =(99.99% of the wealth and prosperity this country generates goes up the ass of 11 kikes.
>>538047711>weyou didn't do jack shit, faggotneither did all the pigs in this thread
>>538062406Let me put it simply, the day a certain small population of people realize that the right of a group of people to kill steal and rape, is completely false, is the day it will all be over swiftly.The reason that hasn't happened is because 99% of the population are actually that fucking stupid, all we need is for the 1% of free thinkers to hit 2 or 3% and it's instantly over for the parasite class.But that is an extremely, extremely difficult task because mind control fucking works, ask any hypnotist, but it is possible to reverse.
>>538047383it’s a really good, insightful video.there are parts one can and should disagree with, since he assumes a fairly shallow viewpoint when discussing these few issues in particular, but the video as a whole is really good.
>>538048221The current neoliberal system is basically socialism for the very rich, crumbs for select groups and a cold indifference to the wide mass of working/middle class masses.
>>538058344You are clearly a chinaman
>>538048221No it isn't. Everyone always forgets that Adam Smith wrote a second book to go along with Wealth of Nations. In that second book Smith basically outlines that a free market must also be guided by virtue, morality and ethics or it will turn into exactly what we are seeing now. So yeah, I know I'm going to get ragged on for the "real capitalism hasn't been tried" meme, but what we are living under literally isn't capitalism as outlined by Adam Smith.
>>538062583Oh, ok, so you went from "Bwahahahahahhaha", to "Oh actually yeah I didn't make any argument you're right".Before moving onto such topics as statism and markets and their interactions, perhaps you should learn what an argument is. Otherwise I fear it's pointless for you to talk about higher level topics my statist friend.
>>538062579We don't live under capitalism though so you're not making any sense. When we had capitalism people didn't have to work nearly as hard to have a good life, now that we're under a communist system everyone works all the time and has nothing.
>>538062754>guided by virtue, morality and ethicsyou can't even define what a woman is
>>538048221This. Does that chud think capitalism is over lol
>>538047383>It's not REAL capitalism #30566
>>538049271Find a communist country that's still standing that doesn't do this. We'll wait.
>>538058935>pretends to not understand to make discourse impossible.Every single time.
>>538062786Yeah you used to be able to buy a house and a car from delivering newspapers or working a gaspump, statist devils will gaslight you that this never existed though, down the memory hole comrade! Everyone has always been impoverished and with a shit life!
>>53805061999% of leftoid shitposts are exactly that, lots of words with zero substance. It's just a vehicle to fluff their ego. I don't even see them as real people anymore, as far as I'm concerned they don't have souls.
>>538048823I enjoyed quite a few of his videos and you are gay
>>538062754>a free market must also be guided by virtue, morality and ethics or it will turn into exactly what we are seeing nowBut our free market didn't turn into anything, it was removed and replaced with a foreign system.
>>538049054>t.
>>538062786you’re not living under communism though.you are living under an extremely malignant form of capitalism, born out of comfort and mental cuckoldry.communism doesn’t breed space-faring trillionaires.
>>538062973>you’re not living under communism though.Do we not have a central bank and income tax?
>>538062786you don't know what those words mean then. Alright
>>538047711>fascist takes over, kills all the problem peopleso white fighting age europeans were the problem all along?because thats what hitler manged to decimate en mass
>>538047383No one on this website was alive for real capitalism, it died with the Great Depression. That banking crisis was the end of the old systemBernie Sanders is correct when he uses the phrase “corporate socialism”
>>538062785Depends are you rejecting a historical example or just "the gilded era" as an argument. You seem stupid enough to mean the former, this is expected of a libertarian though.
>>538062786>Communism is when capitalists become state backed>Means of production? Private Ownership? What are you talking about?
>>538062754waahh wahhhhh!!get raped,cattle slave>IT'S NOT REAL CAPITALISM OR ALGO!!the purpose of a system is what it does. capitalism =MAXIMUM JEWISH VICTORY FOREVER
>>538047383There is no such thing as capitalism.
>>538063059>capitalism is when a communist class owns the government and redistributes all the wealth to themselves>Means of production? Private ownership? What are you talking about?
>>538062743Indifference? The working and middle class get raped by taxes every day to make sure they stay down, this is all for 'equality' and to show the rich man who's boss! of course. The government said so so it must be true.
>>538062997But you do know what those words mean even though you're using them wrong, okay retard.
>>538062986do you have free exchange of goods and services for fair prices regulated by market supply and demand?fuck your retarded libertarian wishful thinking, by the way.
America needs to die for the world to survive and move on. Separated into multiple states under foreign supervision and never allowed to unite.
>>538061354for the longest time I enjoyed flashbulb without realizing flashbulb and ben jordan were the same person. blew my mind
>>538047711(You) didn't build shit. Everything nowadays is built in Mexico, China, and Taiwan. Kys Delusional honky
>>538063182>do you have free exchange of goods and services for fair prices regulated by market supply and demandNO, you fucking retard, we have a centrally planned economy with a central bank controlled by a group of COMMUNIST JEWS
ALL LIBERTARIANS NEED TO BE BEATEN TO DEATH OR STRANGLED WITH A RATTLE SNAKE
>>538063053I'm rejecting what you actually did, which is say "the gilded era", like saying that phrase is an argument.It probably is in socialist circles, in socialism saying random meaningless things is probably an argument, but sadly i have a mind.
>>538063117>Communism is when government
There is no white people. White is a deracinated pseudo identity. That's why europeans don't have solidarity in it.
>>538063059Yes socialism is literally when corporations, capital, and markets are controlled by the state, this fact breaks your silly little ideologue mind though we know.
>>538049329>Real capitalism has never been triedkek
>>538063182>regulated by market supply and demand?no. if demand goes away the business gets a bailout and continues to do shit people don't want or need anymore
>>538063381and that's why they will be rapextinction'd piecemeal,at a leasurly brown pace,every step another ancient lineage gone.
>>538063047Yes that is the only thing Bernie is right about, we live under Corporate socialism, actually all forms of socialism are corporate socialism.Capitalism died in 1913 when they created the fed bank, the income tax, and government started WW1, and then the communist dictatorship happened of course.
Capitalism is state sponsored Jewish usury. The capitalists are usurers. Usury is condemned by God and his Church, the Catholic Church.
>>538063303So why did you ignore the actual argument? >>538063244
>>538063456it has been tried and it was going great until kikes decided they could selectively behave like socialists. i.e. giving shitty businesses bailouts and breaks rather than letting them naturally die and be replaced.try and sell milk in canada and see how capitalist things go for you
>>538062968Yes, socialism is when the government does stuff, the more government, the more socialist.
>>538063404Good thing America has private ownership where the biggest corporations just lobby and get bailouts lol
>>538063512Give me one good reason i should argue with someone who doesn't know what an argument is and I will consider doing it, I think that's very reasonable.
i miss when 4chan wasn't being astroturfed by slop bots.
>>538047383Nearly all modern problems stem from the fiat money system. It opened up an infinite money glitch, which allows zombie corporations and even zombie nation states to continue on and pretend everything is fine. Capitalism requires failure for its negative feedback loop to function correctly. We don’t have that right now.
>>538063550Abolish statism, abolish bailouts.
>>538063456>the joke is you never say this but I always say it>I am very intelligent
>>538063244Get bit bitch, I hope you try. Statists are weak ass pussies who will be deported.
>>538063622You are right I shouldn't argue with someone who doesn't know what an argument is. This entire reply chain is you throwing adhoms and making baseless assertions.
>>538063680Abolish the state or whatever your idea of statism would just result in a capitalist class owning and controlling everything again
>>538063466the only example you can give is bailing out banks in 2008, by issuing them glorified federal loans that they were obligated to pay back two times over since, with the alternative of plunging literally the entire country into a state of complete financial chaos even worse than was already present.unless you want to also count the US government giving laughably low-balled defence contracts to struggling companies, to preserve the production capabilities of the military industrial complex?
>>538063865>the only example you can give is bailing out banks in 2008Income tax exists
>>538063502>Capitalism is state sponsored
>>538063456>>538063685>Heh, I strawmanned the position you never argued for>Therefore I win>Karl Marx said so>I am le smugFree markets are when interactions and economic transactions happen free from the initiation of force, that's literally it, it is real, it happens all the time, sometimes it's absolute, sometimes there are varying degrees.Communism is vaguely defined thats why it always results in catastrophe, it is illogical, it doesnt actually exist, only statism exists which is defined as organizations witht a monopoly on the initiation of violence.
>>538063665THIS, a government monopoly on the money supply is theft from the entire economy and a subsidy on the government and it's cronies.
>>538063725kek all your rights are granted privileges of the state.you won't do shit.you will never fight,kill and die against the police,military or state apparatus as they rape your entire world 24/7enjoy your meager crumbs before kikeberg gives them to rakesh and his 17 brothers over you. (you demand too much and are too expansive + lazy + goy + probably white)
>>538063404Socialism is a materialist social ideology. It rejects God and natural moral law. Government control of corporations, capital and markets doesn't amount to socialism. Governments throughout history have controlled economies. If the government doesn't regulate economies then oligarchs are in control over both economies and governments and can do whatever they want.
>>538063860Kek, define capitalism, if your definition includes socialism or the state, you lose and your whole ideology is nonsense.
>>538064150At least you admit you're a moloch worshipping Bohemian grove enjoyer, like all statists, your god is weak and will cause your destruction.
>>538063680>Abolish statism, abolish bailouts.Expel jews from positions of power.
>>538063986Kek>Capitalism is when you have lots of da government>Dats why government is good!>Durrrr mom i shit my pants again
>>538064070you think you said something, but you didn’t.>government monopoly on the money supplyas opposed to what? Joe Schmoe issuing Joebux and expecting them to be legal tender?
>>538064225oh? and where's you all powerful god now?. let me guess,two more weeks? something about a theif in the night?aha.real power speaks for itself.evil always triumphs over good.what are you gonna do about it?
>>538060590Yes, banks investing in a loss-leading business that they think has good potential for future profits is capitalism.
>>538063725Statist is a stupid term. Its like calling someone a civilizationist. All civilizations have state authority.
>>538063828>uno reverse>doesnt answer the perfectly reasonable question because he's ashamed that he doesnt know what an argument isWhatever buddy, go play with your legos debating isn't for you.I'll give you one last chance, what is an argument?
>>538064404these people are unable to grasp concepts that don’t map 1:1 to home economics. big part of why it’s gotten this bad, to be honest.
>>538064170First you’re probably too young to be on these boards Second it’s the private ownership over the means of production with the intent of profit
>>538064474Actually it's the correct term.Statism is NOT civilization, in fact the opposite is true. The bigger your state is proportional to your society, the less civilized and advanced your society is.
>>538064300Private banks you fucking communist idiot.Banks SHOULD collapse if they print infinite money, as soon as possible.
>>538064334>evil always triumphs over good.Kek you've got to be shitposting or you're mentally ill. I doubt you even believe in good and evil.
>>538064404>The banks get their money through fraudulent fractional reserve banking that ignores capitalismBig detail to leave out
>>538063244>>538063502Nationalist Capitalism is clearly the supreme political ideology for the success of the white people. no offshore jobs and manufacturing technologyno onshore large supply of cheap third world laborers for domestic workers to compete with for wagesno ruin money by printing trillions for israel warsno ruin money by printing trillions to give food stamps to obese sheboons to eat name brand junk food and then give them heroic medical care for free via medicaid. and boomergibs for social security and medicare. insolvent progressive liberal programs whose funding has ruined the purchasing power of the dollar over time, thereby minimizing the prospect of poor and lower middle class people ever accumulating and passing down generational wealth for the benefit of their bloodline every year entitlement spending is roughly four times the cost of the military budget and over half of all healthcare spending comes from the government in the US and the interest payment on the national debt now exceeds the annual military budget
>>538064605banks are private though. especially in the US.banks also don’t print money. neither in the literal, nor figurative sense, even if money is mostly created at bank level.
>>538064674Yes, banks investing the money stored with them to make more money for their members is capitalism.
>>538064495>First of all adhomSo if I privately own the means of production but don't want to profit, i'm a communist? Your definition is fucking stupid.Furthermore your definition doesn't even include private property that you don't use for production.Your whole murderous ideology is asinine nonsense and everyone that promotes it is probably burning in hell.
>>538047383That guy is a libshit faggot but if he badmouths capitalism that would be great
>>538064709>banks also don’t print moneyThe fuck you think the U.S. Federal Reserve is?
>>538064480I'll give you one chance. In a stateless society what is stopping a monopoly from forming?
>>538064709>The federal reserve is privateAh yes the government is privateKek, you statists have to bend reality and do insane mental gymnastics to preserve your delicate delusions, what a bunch of bullshit.
>>538064701BASEDNatCap GAAAAAAAAANG, fuck socialist and neoliberal devils.
>>538053761>>538059139Poop people literally live and breath by the false impression whites have of them by super positioning their own humanity over them. It’s why you all fall in line with kikes in western countries.You are the same animal.
>>538050847You really shouldn't compliment someone's intelligence and then say something completely retarded
>>538064814a government body tasked with planning and implementing the country’s monetary policy.it’s called the „central bank”, but not because it’s an actual bank.
>>538064822>Can't even tell me what an argument isBwahahahaahahahahaCome on bro what is happening to you commies? You're all turning into imbeciles, I remember when commies knew what an argument was, not anymore I guess, sad!Statism as an ideology is dead in the water, you have lost the historical zeitgeist. You failed.
>>538064877see >>538064974furthermore, it’s actually structured like a system of private banks, with a central oversight and planning capacity.either way, it’s not a bank in the traditional sense.
>>538048221>>538049054Calm down, ladies, you're both retards.
>>538064974>a government bodyWrap it up boys.
>>538053761Jewish Commissars literally your country for decades
based ancap itt completely TRASHING socialist delusions like nigga what the fuck are you doing on a politically incorrect forum if your beliefs are literally 1:1 copy from government mandated state sponsored propaganda schoolbooks maybe go read an article how the money works or whatever
>>538062583>A completely laissez-faire economy will result in monopolies that absolutely shit on your freedomantitrust laws are an essential pillar of nationalist capitalism. healthy competition is the beauty of capitalism. all communists are niggerloving troons with monkeypox and shit covered cloaca
>>538064568>Actually it's the correct term.No its a stupid term. There is no ideology of statism. There is no ideology that supports any kind of state authority over economic and social matters whatever.>Statism is NOT civilizationI didn't say it was. I said all civilizations have state authority. >The bigger your state is proportional to your society, the less civilized and advanced your society is.That is nonsense. All state governments are big. There is no means of measuring bigger or smaller government and there is no correlation between more government control and society being less civilized and advanced. The greatest civilizations had governments that libertarians would oppose for supposedly being too controlling.
>>538065122Whatever, if you want to say it's half government half private, i'm not going to argue with you, but the fact is the government part makes it shit, because they can print infinite money and not collapse, if they were private they would instantly collapse, and that's a good thing. But statist devils love propping up fake big business with big government I guess.
>>538065100So you can't answer the question. Your ideas are indefensible and that's why you dare not even try.
>>538064766>So if I privately own the means of production but don't want to profit, i'm a communist? Your definition is fucking stupidYou’re just living under a false dichotomy where doing something not for profit means communism, I’m not a communist you just don’t understand economics which is why you’re probably too young to be here >Furthermore your definition doesn't even include private property that you don't use for production.Idk if you’re talking about investment properties which are capitalist, or just personal ownership of your belongings
the most annoying thing about leftists is that they are right about how capitalism sucksbut their answer is ALWAYs to just empower the mechanisms that makes capitalism suck
>>538065295Based Polski, statists are fucking nerds, they were cooler when they were in full power and killed millions of their own people for no reason.
>>538064822 Literally nothing, marketing propaganda, economies of scale, and the sheer startup cost of certain enterprises are all factors that can crush upstart economic endeavors into oblivion. There may still be a few odd alternative products here and there, but it's possible to build a monopoly in an environment with no government regulation, especially if the product being produced or the service offered is costly to proffer. Joe Schmoe isn't going to start building trucks in his garage and overthrow Ford, nor is John Doe gonna conquer the film market with his hand camera.
>>538065419It's almost as though we need a third option.....
>>538065359>No its a stupid term. There is no ideology of statism.Kek, stupid statisthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism>That is nonsense. All state governments are big.That's stupid nonsense and disgusting coming from an American, there are always different degrees of government, and less is almost always better, more is almost always worse.America didn't even have an income tax or a central bank until 1913, your ancestors spit on you statist devil.
>>538065667No, trading one boot on your neck for another is not the way.
>>538065669>there are always different degrees of government, and less is almost always better, more is almost always worse.What's the argument for that
>>538065377I asked the question first, answer mine and i'll answer yours, it's called reciprocity, big word for a commie, you're a little bitch who doesn't even know what an argument is and you dont care because you just want to steal rape and kill like all statist devils. We are putting an end to your tyranny and thought control over the NPC cattle. Sorry.
>>538047383I want to watch this video but the title is such a turnoff. Poor people always call us mid or liberal democrats "America isn't great, Trump is president, I am still LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK" and this millennial is mad his "childhood store" got replaced by a Walmart.Look, its humanity dude not every person in a given country is going to get rich. Most people are benefitting from the stock market except 10% of whiny losers. Look at the cities, cleaner than ever, we have glorious architecture everywhere, some of the best food, technologically we are #1 sometimes #2 to China their robotics are looking friggin scary ngl and we have been further in space than anyone.You can choose to look at the bright side of life or live in your pit of despair and lots of liberals just seem to wallow in it.
>>538064701Capitalism is state sponsored Jewish usury that concentrates wealth into fewer and fewer hands.There is no white people. White is a deracinated pseudo identity. The best governments were Catholic monarchies.
>>538065497Communism isn't socialism you half-wit
>>538048318Better than a paedophile who criticises other men's behaviour like a woman
>>538048221americans have been conditioned to only vaguely understand capitalist to be good and communism to be bad
>>538065817Kek honestly bro, I will make a whole capitalism vs socialism thread for us to argue in if you want.But you keep dodging me asking if you know what an argument is, why are you doing that? it's funny to me, it's such a simple question, do you literally not know or what? You could just fucking google it right now but it's like you don't want to because it would fuck up your communist ideology or something kek.
>>538065899They’re stuck believing everything is capitalist and communist and won’t actually learn anything about other economic systems
>>538066121>systems Theory* is more apt
>>538065825>>538066081The intention of your question is insincere and entertaining giving in to a rhetorical trick. It is putting me on the defense even though I have not pushed any particular ideas, I am only critiquing yours. This is because you can not defend your ideas.Notice you presented no argument here >>538066081
>>538065724Or you can, you know, wear the boot. Unless you're one of those people who believe that it's impossible for there to be any relationship between a ruling class and the populace other than master/slave. In which case I wish you luck in your anarchy.
This guy is a leftist with broken clock tier takes.
>>538066213>entertaining givingentertaining it is*
>>538065899What does the USSR stand for my commie friend? Hmmm. Could you tell me? Take your time.
>>538049271Correct, so the government should have as little power as possible so it can't pick and choose winners/losers in a free market. Retards this thread literally are saying that the solution to our gay system is to let the pedophile elite (jews) have even more governmental power to rule our lives and, maybe, pretty please, they won't completely butt fuck rape us like they've been doing for the last 100 years. But actually it's okay cause, um communism is actually based or something? And collectivist economic structure doesn't ultimately, every single time, give unlimited, unrestricted authority to those who were already previously in power (((jews)))
>>538065669>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StatismThat's not an ideology its a stupid libertarian concept that can be applied to any state government that libertarians don't like. Libertarism is jewish.
>>538066213HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BRO, asking you what an argument is is a rhetorical trick? Holy fuck you should be a comedian honestly this is better than any comedy show.Next you'll say asking for a definition of something is a rhetorical trick, logic is a rhetorical trick! hhahahahahaha i finally understand how the commie mind works.Anything you don't like is bad, regardless of the trueness of the thing in question, fascinating.Literally it is not a trick or a strategy to put you on the defensive it's a basic fucking question necessary for even the possibility of a debate. Holy crap you guys are entertaining.What did I even do that made you think that?
>>538066291CORRECT! We have a winner!Giving people the power to steal rape and kill is... BAD! Only the greatest minds like us can understand this
>>538066480Honestly looking through the thread you have not made a single argument for libertarianism in the entire thread. The only thing you have done is call other people "stupid statists" and asserted things. Are you capable of making a real argument for libertarianism?
>>538066480Also low key your response proves what I said about the question being insincere.
>>538066223>Or you can, you know, wear the boot.Useful idiot. You expect a group of murderers to treat you kindly? You will be the first in the camps. Even the government officials get executed. Your society built on flowing blood will crash into the ground, as has happened time and time again. You can ignore the consequences of your actions, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring them.
>>538047383It's literally just the exact same midwit TDS as every other liberal idiot.>WAHWAHWAH everything is bad now, everything was totally paradise when King Nigger Obama was President, this is all Trumps fault.
>>538066798The thing he is talking about is the inevitable conclusion to a stateless society. Thats what you want.
>>538066619>>538066689Debates are all about arguments.If you can't tell me what an argument is, it is pointless to debate you, you are not even in the debate, that is my argument.Answer my question, and I will answer yours.Once again asking for a simple fucking question to be answered is not some kind of spooky tactic I don't even know what mental illness you must have to believe that.Honestly I think you just don't know basic logic so you think any logic i attempt to use is some kind of trick, that is honestly sad, you dont have to be ashamed of not knowing arguments and logic, just learn them to be better equipped for debate, everyone has to start somewhere.
>>538066266How does the USSR having socialist in its name dispute what he says? Do you think they were communist? If you do you should learn more about other economic theory besides libertarianism without the intent to just “disprove” everything but actually learn and make judgments
>>538066865He literally said "wear the boot", ie becoming the dictators in a dictatorship.
>>538047383Macauley McCulkin is a youtuber now?
>>538065827>Capitalism is state sponsored Jewish usurycapitalism is the private allocation of capital/robust private property rights >white people don't exist lol
>>538066940where does the burning thing in the sky go at night? does it get sleepy also?
>>538066940Stop weaseling you don't actually believe I don't know what an argument is I have demonstrated consistently an understanding of what an argument is. That's the only way I could know that you haven't made a single argument for libertarianism in this entire thread.What stops a monopoly from forming and becoming a government in a stateless society?
>>538066960>USSR isn't communistI mean that just makes a nonsense of everything, I will freely admit that America is more capitalist than the USSR, that doesnt mean that either were perfectly 100% communist or capitalist.Austrian economics is the best economic theory, Libertarianism is the best political theory. It's clear at this point in history. If you come up with something better please tell me, but it definitely isn't statism which cause the destruction of millions.
>>538064741It's not stored with them, the money doesn't exist, it's literally fraud and not capitalism
>>538067114>Austrian economics is the best economic theory, Libertarianism is the best political theory.What's the argument for that?>It's clear at this point in history.That's not an argument.
>>538067069Dude it like totally gets high and then passes out under the Earth, the Sun smokes weed bro. It's blazing.
>>538065899>Communism isn't socialism you half-wityeah it is, they're far more similar than they are different, dumbass >>538066121>They’re stuck believing everything is capitalist and communist and won’t actually learn anything about other economic systemscommunism and socialism are basically the same, you're retarded for thinking otherwise
Libertarianism is about big oligarchic jew control over the economy and society.
>>538067282This
>>538067114Once again you believe everything is capitalist or communism do you understand that socialism is a different concept to communism? They’re both of Marxist theory but they are different>Austrian economics is the best economic theory, Libertarianism is the best political theory. It's clear at this point in history.You’re a wall
>>538067113>I have demonstrated consistently an understanding of what an argument is.By refusing to answer my question consistently about what an argument is?Your debating skills are a joke bro, you lost. You refused to even debate.We could have continued the debate but you chose to end it and lose because your panties got twisted about answering a simple question, "What is an argument?". GG
>>538064657SCOREBOARDSCOREBOARDSCOREBOARD
>>538067409>Still weaseling out of answering the question
>>538067341>nooo socialism is a tiny bit less hostile to private property and a little bit less authoritarian than communism and they both came from the same jew THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES lmao
>>538067341Communism is a subset of socialism. Socialism is a subset of statism.>>538067282Yeah that's why we want you to stop paying taxes to zionist politicians and oligarchs, because we're big zionist oligarchs. 2+2=5.>>538067181Answer my question and I promise I'll answer yours. Otherwise, kiss my ass commie. It's pointless now anyway because the thread is about to end you fucking idiot.
>>538067595I did. You are a frighteningly stupid person.
>>538067549That's what you did. I asked first, you answer first, you asked second, i'll answer second. Otherwise, go fuck yourself deceiving commie.
>>538067699Ligma
>>538067621You just posted a picture of gemini AI's response instead of you responding, you literally dont have a mind of your own. How about you just answer the fucking question yourself, why is it so hard for you commies?
>>538067755Deez nuts
>>538067781I demonstrated understanding and you already said googling a definition would be sufficient. Also you don't actually believe I don't know what an argument is.
>>538049490>>538058823>>538062224Tattoo negates all.
>>538067569Never said they were completely different I admitted a common origin, but a stateless society is different to one with a state even if just in theory which I again don’t subscribe too >>538067595See above you fanatical bot
>>538067810How would I know that you know what an argument is without you demonstrating that by actually answering the fucking question yourself? It's so easy, so stupid.
>>538068060Lmao
>>538068016cope harder nigger
>>538068016Ok a stateless society is different to one with a state then.
>>538064484Polacks are so stupid jesus fuckin christ. Yes the loss leader for twenty fucking years being held up while handing money to their buddies to wipe out competition. The fed owns this gay country and yours, you gotta be a rapebaby to act like this is simply “advanced economics.”
>>538068122Ayyy lmao.
>>538068060If someone is riding down the street on a bike then they have demonstrated they know how to ride a bike without telling me all the steps involved to riding a bike.You see I just made an argument and demonstrated understanding without dictating a definition to you. And practice is a higher form of understanding than memorization.
>>538068060Ironically you haven't made an argument for libertarianism this entire thread so you are inferior to me by far.
>>538068167they’re just definitions of ideologies I don’t really subscribe to How’s your relationship with your parents? Is the 9th grade gettin rough on you buddy?
>>538068211Destroying your economy and country is advanced economics comrade. 2+2=10 is advanced math comrade.
>>538068183Yeah that’s one of the main differences between communism and socialism, Isn’t learning fun?
>>538068225Whatever bro, the thread is ending and you refused to debate by not answering the simple question, you already lost, make a new thread if you want to continue whatever this nonsense is, i'll do it.
>>538068501>Communism is statelessAh yes comrade we have to build a gigantic state to remove the state, this makes perfect sense.Kek, it's just silly.Communism isn't even a real ideology because it's incoherent, so of course it never exists or works in the real world.
>>538068529>>538068225
>>538067199Holy shit, this changes everything. Thanks Fren. Have a good day and stay chill.
>>538068953You too fren.
>>538068501In order to build this stateless utopia you need to give all the powers to ME i will totally not abuse it in any way shape or form. Erm well it looks like in this stateless society you're managing resources incorrectly here let me (((help))) you with that, since you know you gave me literally unlimited power. Wait what the science, why is everyone starving? Oh i know i can just take even more power over people! Oof erm ahh every one is dead, this isn't like my heckin vicoria 3 at all darn. Well it wasn't real communism anyways lets try again in 50 years yeah?
>>538068599Could say the same of ancap with the idea of removing a state with the capitalist class still in power wouldn’t just replace the state in essenceOr libertarianism with the idea of a regulation free market that wouldn’t have the capitalist class just exploit for the bottom dollar as seen in history with the guilded age
>>538067199>>538068953Anons… I didn’t know… I sorry
