>>538053318No refunds
>>538053318Windmills cannot work without oil anyway. The turbines have to be lubricated with oil-based lube. Any energy sources that didn't already exist before the industrial revolution require fossil fuels in one way or another.
you can just easily replace them they're like disposable it's so green and renewable
>>538053472Use whale oil.
>>538053318these are just expendable tax steal mechanisms a real turbine wouldn't need to be this tall and it would be vertical
>>538053472They also can't be recycled or reused after reaching their end of life (20-25 years)
>>538053520>just replace them after 18 months of constructionI bet they can't even reuse the huge poured concrete base.
>>538053318They just need to be watered. With water, like out of the toilet
>>538053521Modern trade of whale oil is illegal
american engineering excellence
>>538053318every time I've driven past wind farms in the US or europe half of them aren't movingsmall amd large scale solar has some justificationwind is pure cope
>>538053318Where's the resonant tech? Where is it?
>>538053589Why not?
>>538053318They're just down for maintenance
>>538053318>kills our magnificent national birdfor a small $10,000 fee to BLM plus tip
>>538053718Fiberglass.
>>538053520>just throw them away>renewable Trash
>>538053318Bruh dat da 1 next da interstate goin sou?
>>538053318I wish these cunts would instead invest in Nuclear, Geothermal and Hydroelectric alternatives rather than gay Wind turbines and solar panels made by chinks. But those power sources tend to look less flashy and more industrial for those green cunts.
>>538053718They're made of fiberglass and carbon fiber cured in resin. The only way to break them down is to shred them.
>>538053772LOL like conservashits give a crap about animals now only when talking about windmills.
>can't even produce enough power to pay for themselves>can't be reused>can't be recycled>apparently can't handle too much wind>dangerous to birds>evidence that their low frequency hum screws up sleep patternsGreat scam-technology
>>538053521feminists won't allow that
>>538053894>Great scam-technologyAbsolutely, some kike made a lot of money for sure.
>>538053772>kills our magnificent national birdhttps://youtu.be/d-AYhMoLorI
>>538053318Shitlibs with their dildo collections will defend this as they do with their molesters.
>>538053940Fuck off Muhammed
wind power is functioning all over the place as we speak though, including texas.Name a power source that doesn't have some pitfall? Nuclear has nuclear waste, and as we've seen recently sometimes in France you have to shut them down when the river water gets too hot. Dams fuck up the spawning of fish. Don't need to say anything about coal and oil as we all know what they do to the environment. Solar can't support base load, and obviously has an enviro impact as well.
>>538053318Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
>>538054287Sorry anon, my foreskin is too intact to be a Muslim. Not that you would know, being American.
>>538053318Solar is kino at least, been using solar for a while >just comes from the fucking sun amazing stuff.
I used to work on windmill stuff. Fun facts:>for every one you see there's two you don'tThey're always in groups. But the groups are 1. Currently running; 2. Standby "just in case"; 3. Down for maintenance.>most wind farms are only ever running at between 10 and 25% of their rated generation capacityThe 2nd and 3rd of the two groups are already off the table, so you're down to 33% automatically. Of Group 1, the ones that are supposed to be running, there's always some that just don't work for a variety of reasons. Wiring problems. A bad drive. Mechanical issues. Whatever.>the blades have to keep spinning even when there's no windThere's motors and drives and a giant battery bank inside to keep the blades moving at a certain RPM even on a calm day.When there is wind, there's also motors/drives to tilt the blades so the wind cuts across them different to maintain that certain RPM.>when Bush/Obama gave away all those billions to set up all these stupid wind farms the people who got the money went to Europe and bought up all their decommissioned junkIt's all scrap. 1st and 2nd gen garbage. Or, it would have been, had we not paid top dollar for it.Many of our windfarm windmills (ca. 2016, which is when I last worked on this crap) are made by a company called Cotas. Cotas made 1st generation crap using a 1.4MW GE generator and a bunch of custom PLC hardware. Cotas hasn't existed since the late 90s/early 00s. They got bought out by Vestas. Vestas made Gen 2 crap, which was just the same Gen 1 crap, but with Allen Bradley PLCs instead of the Cotas units. Some also upgraded to 1.6MW GE generators.I don't remember the status of Vestas. They may or may not still be around.Europe, on average, is on Gen 4 and Gen 5 equipment. We're still fighting ourselves keeping their Gen 1 and Gen 2 literal junkyard units running to the tune of billions per year in subsidies and handouts.The solar industry is way, way more crooked.idk. AMA. Or don't. Whatever.
>>538053784>>538053787this is such a non-issue in the grand scheme of things that it outs you as a complete brainlet for even bringing it up. Plastic wrapping from dildo packaging takes more garbage dump space per year than these blades.
>>538053318They're just resting.
>>538053318KWAB
>>538054609hey leave your moms habits out of this
>>538054609Some day we could build home on top of it and that will maximize the freedom!
>>538054597>The solar industry is way, way more crooked.Tell us about solar.
>>538053472Windmills predate petroleum. You’ve been jewed lmao
The interesting part about the power grid is the concept of inertia, and how all this solar and wind doesn't have inertia the same way a conventional turbine does. So they have to artificially create inertia so they don't break the grid. It's why you're seeing them use PHES so much. Because the turbines can be used for balancing the grid. In Spain they had a huge blackout, because they couldn't handle the inertia in the grid because of this.Tldr as demand fluctuates they ramp power, the drag on conventional turbines helps balance the changes in frequency. Solar and Wind don't have the same inertia or mass to balance the grid.
>>538053912kek
>>538053318> how about we pay you x amount of dollars to install a 20 year life expectancy giant plastic dome on your private property, goyim?- flaking bisphenol into the atmosphere every day, birds dying, wild life suddenly full of microplastics> 4 stacks of papers to sign, somewhere saying 'if it breaks down, not my problem'ah no.. it fell down, goyim?
>>538054872I don't know a whole lot about solar, as I mostly worked on the drives and PLCs from the windmills.But it's basically about what you can imagine. The whole thing's a scam. There's no amount of solar that is economically viable, save individual panels that you take camping to charge your phone and flashlights and stuff.They take years to pay for themselves. If you were, right now, to throw up a solar panel field big enough to run your house, by the time you recouped your investment, you will have rebuilt it entirely 3 or 5 times. Replaced each and every panel at least once (likely more), replaced the inverter(s) at least once, and will have tossed god knows how many batteries into the ocean.And, if you make more electricity than you use, you have to find a way to get rid of the excess. Right now, the only way to do that is to sell it back to the local utility. Which you can do, but you have to do it with their equipment installed by them. (And they charge out the ass for it.) Otherwise get fucked.It's just a pointless circle jerk, really. A way to suck up tax dollars and pack niggers full of fried meat until they gracelessly expire.
>>538053472They produce far more energy at a far less cost than that same oil. The oil is put to better use in a windmill than just burning it once for fuel.
>>538053318>fossil fuel infrastructure never fails
>>538055304you're a massive retard
>>538055304You picked my flag because we're not a failed state, right?
>>538055472Om jag är Svensk för att vi skiter ut skattepengar som går till inavlade socfall och andra bruna avgrundsmänniskor från MENA?Du kan väl läsa på lite om hur energisystemet fungerar innan du skiter ner dig i kommentarerna :)Just nu så hår vi ett massivt överskott av el (enbart när det blåser) som inte har balans från kärnkraft när det inte blåser.Då sker det svackor som liknar hjärtflimmer och systemet reagerar som CP Åke: "VAD ÄR DET SOM HAR HÄÄÄNT!?"
>>538055841This guy is not a native speaker or a stupid and extremely Americanized zoomer. Reads LLMish, but with mistakes.
>>538053318>america won't survive the competency crisislollmao
Renewables are for gay faggots
>>538053521let's start at the bottom of the IQ list and go up. that way non-whites get turned into oil before whales who literally have an IQ high enough to be a cop in the USA
>>538055419It fails significantly less and with less downside for a very obvious reason:Fossil fuel infrastructure must be operational to be profitable; green infrastructure is profitable upfront for just building it. A good example of this is how few examples of pipelines failing despite all fearmongering. That’s because the companies hate the failures way more than the dumbest green flag ever could.If anything, green infrastructure is incentivized to be made poorly and not built to last.
>>538053318Honeywells actually made a windmill that's way more smaller and works better but patented so people couldn't use it
>>538056120Varför kan du inte svara som en Svensk som förstår Sveriges energisystem då? jävla tattare.gå och klipp dig och skaffa ett gymkort, fetto.
>>538053318>nooooo you can't build windmills!! you need to build coal power plants!
>>538056397So what is stopping China from producing it?
>>538053835jews don’t like nuclear energy. see chernobyl and fukushima.
>>538056321Lmao pipelines leak on a daily basis. Within the last decade there have been over 1800 major pipeline leaks which dumped 750k to a million barrels of oil in the US.
>>538053318>Here is your green energy.
>>538053318Looks like they just need a little viagra
>>538056454China could actually, but exporting it to crash energy markets would hit some walls because of elites, so solar panels do the same thing and subsidize their silicone industry for electronics better
>>538056519You are full of shit faggot
>>538054996>Windmills requiring 1200 gallons of oil to run, and an additional 80 gallons a year plus diesel generators for startups predate oil! You're a fucking retarded person.
>>538056506I know they don't like us Goyim having a decent and clean power grid but why doesn't Israel have a nuclear power station?
>>538056519Let’s see them.
>>538056427Definitely some LLM shit, maybe paired with a non-native speaker. Too weird to just be a non-native in >>538055841. Wonder if they trained it on flashback.org (chuddy Swedish forum) or something.
>>538053318>Here is your green energy
>>538054609have you seen the cost of building these windfarms? It is extortionate. It is absolutely a problem that the entire plant has to be replaced every 25 years.>>538056321This is true, in the UK we pay eye watering sums of money to wind farms out of public purse to "stand down" wind energy or to pay them to idle, because in the free market these things cannot compete.
>>538056441>>nooooo you can't build windmills!! you need to build coal power plants!pest eller kolera talking points, this was popular among leftoid retards in sweden back in 2016even if you have all the windmills in the world in your own backyard, excess is excess.you cant store all that excess, we dont have batteries advanced enough yet.when theres a lot of wind, theres more than enough and the excess is sold for cheap.the only actual way to make an effective grid is the balance between hydro, nuclear and a minimum of windturbinesbecause windturbines arent worth the money/maintance vs life expectancy.
>>538053684These are atmospheric energy terminals.Why else would they need to be so tall?The windmill part is just a red herring to trick goyim
>>538053472Nobody reasonable is saying we can't use oil. We just should limit our use to where it's necessary, which lubricants obviously are.Oil is also a limited resource so reducing our total usage of it will mean that we won't be in danger of running out.
>>538056609>why doesn't Israel have a nuclear power stationanon, I...
>>538056648HAHAHA Flashback is chuddy?Even Aftonbladet, DN and flamman was outed for lurking flashback to find leads on crime investigations.the entire fucking site is full of left wing retards, no different from exiztens.
>>538056654>green energy>green energy, Russia
>>538056771I know they have nuclear ICBM's anon, I was exclusively referring to actual power stations.
>>538053472based landman
>>538056669>the only actual way to make an effective grid is the balance between hydro, nuclear and a minimum of windturbines Hydro only works if you have the geography for it, unfortunately. It also destroys river ecosystems.But most Americans who hate renewable energy don't think about hydro or nuclear anyway. They want MUH CLEAN COAL so that some fifth generation inbred in West Virginia can continue to get blacklung.
>>538053684that's geographical, wind is more reliable than sunlight in many parts of the world, the problem is the windfarms cost too much to build, national transmission infrastructure is not designed to cope with large amounts of radial offshore input and the cost of redesigning the national grid to accommodate it (alongside the cost of the windfarms themselves), coupled with the fact they take 10 years to be permitted and build, then become redundant in 20 years, makes them ridiculous. If we were not sitting on mountains of coal and oceans of oil I could understand having this conversation but in the current economy it is simply an inferior option.
>>538056526I just watched this for the first time and it was surprisingly good at showing a decaying nation; nothing works, replacement parts have to be made in house because the manufacturers are out of business, corruption is a means of survival even for the employed, private armed guards are everywhere most carrying assault rifles. Energy scarcity seems to be a precursor for it all.
>>538053472bio-lube you fucking retard
>>538056784This:>Even Aftonbladet, DN and flamman was outed for lurking flashback to find leads on crime investigations.has nothing to do with this:>HAHAHA Flashback is chuddy?and this sounds off ("this entire site"):>the entire fucking site is full of left wing retards, no different from exiztens.LLM. Otherwise, you have to go back.
>>538056601>blocks your path>refuses to elaborate
>>538054609my friend, consider the fact that you might not be as intelligent as u think u are
>>538056519Barrels of crude oil arent leaking retard. The major pipeline leaks we have had in recent years were gasoline and diesel.But yes there were major leaks.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_2020s
>>538056883Using coal in the 21st century is simply fucking retarded.Did you know coal plants emit more radiation than any nuclear power plant on Earth? Not to mention the particulate pollution they generate.
>>538053894>can't even produce enough power to pay for themselveslie. A thermal power plant is much more expensive and then add fuel costs on top of them.>can't be reusedliere-motorizing old masts with new gensets and blades reuses the parts that are more expensive and time-consuming (permits, land, grid connections) and you get to produce a lot more energy, things have evolved quite a bit in 20 years. >can't be recycledliethe copper and steel in the generators is very easy to recycle.>apparently can't handle too much windshows how much you knowfeathering is a well-established thingthermal powerplants also get rekd with tornado-strength winds>dangerous to birdslol>evidence that their low frequency hum screws up sleep patternsno evidence
>>538053318Need some viagra
>>538053521>kill the whales and destroy the environment to use green energyLmao
>>538053851Oh no! they killed a bunch of predators attacking their livestockwhat did you want them to do? this is based as fuck.
>>538053472Just spit on it
>>538053318>collapses without subsidies from the stateFigures
>>538053318>posts american engineering
>>538056654it's depressing that nuclear is held back because of fear mongering due to general slav incompetence and nip affinity for outdated shit
>>538056880>enewable energy don't think about hydro or nuclear anyway. They want MUH CLEAN COALthe problem in Sweden is that the leftoids treat nuclear as the "MUH CLEAN COAL"they react no differently from when someone talks about Hitler and they were sole responsible for phasing out nuclear.the biggest issue for them in reality, is that the energy becomes so cheap when we have a mix of everything.and stacking that with nuclear to reach energy perfection (again?) yes, ask yourself why they bitch about it.theres only one rational answer.
>>538056825>green energy, Japanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_ZRO5oATk
>>538053318>not using nuclear.Pathetic.
>>538057090>this is based as fuck.I wonder why mice are eating up all the wires in their tractors and cars?
>>538056965>has nothing to do with this:it is perfeclty relevant with wtf youre spouting about flashback, moron.youre the fucking assblasted retarded fucking mongoloid kryckmongo who began talking about flashbackthen you bitch about it when i fuck you in the asswith my hands wrapped around your pencilneck to direct your stupid fat face in the direction of your own retarded comments.
>>538056634https://www.fractracker.org/2025/04/pipeline-incidents-are-a-daily-occurrence/>>538056997>barrels of crude aren't leakingOh I'm sorry they're just "rupturing" and spilling hundred of thousands of gallons of crude. My bad.
>>538056880Coal and gas as intermediates are essentially necessary short term (10-20 years) to even effect needed hydro and nuclear in America. Our energy shortfall is immediate and projected to grow. It takes 7 years to set up a mid sized nuclear plant, micro plants can get that down to 5 but have horrendous break even times. These people are literally cattle, we should not give a shit what they want as that is what got us to this point. Once they get rolling blackouts either comprehensive energy overhauls or lining tech C-suite and owners against the wall is going to be broadly popular. Anywhere with running water can have hydro, to as small as running a single house via one or more reverse engineered washing machines. Run of river dams and sophisticated rainwater catchments can allow for village level power with minimal effects on wildlife. If the amount of money that was spend on bullshit green energy grifts had instead been spent on practical minded solutions we would not have an energy problem or it's inflationary effects on COL. China does not have an energy problem because it invested in all manners of energy production simultaneously.
>>538056880>Hydro only works if you have the geography for it, unfortunately. It also destroys river ecosystems.>hasn't heard of closed-loop pumped storage hydrongmiGlobal Atlas of Closed-Loop Pumped Hydro Energy Storagehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542435120305596Here is how you do it:Combined Cycle Gas Turbine (CCGT) designed for natural gas with distributed gas storage.Closed-loop pumped storage hydro (PSH) using the Francis turbine built above floodplains with cascading storage tiers.Biogas via anaerobic digestion (AD) integrated with hydrothermal carbonization (HTC) and biogas-to-biomethane upgrading.Electric Thermal Energy Storage (ETES) and Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES) integrated with Combined Heat and Power (CHP).Use baseload to produce synthetic hydrocarbons like algae fuel and e-fuel.If enough pumped hydro is designed for the right locations and installed, it can provide baseload power year round. Instead of treating pumped hydro purely as a daytime peaking plant, individual PSH installations do not need to run simultaneously. They can operate in a programmed sequence with auxiliaries. As one reservoir tier approaches its discharge limit, the next tier in the geographic grid throttles up to take over the load. If you need extra power, throttle CCGTs to refill hydro dams.
>>538057291So yeah, Nordic flags here are fake as shit overall.
>>538057164>it's depressing that nuclear is held back because of fear mongering due to general slav incompetenceyou think that the leftists in sweden and germany both phased out our nuclear capacity because "slav incompetence"?the reason of chernobyl disaster was addressed and would never happen again.
>>538056964The stuff you use for anal, fag?
>>538053718The Stone Cold agreement of 2012.
>>538057452>you think that the leftists in sweden and germany both phased out our nuclear capacity because "slav incompetence"?no I think they phased out nuclear because they're suicidal with a genetic predisposition to never think beyond the present
>>538053851Conservatives are often hunters and fisherman, they have an interest in preserving nature and populations of animals often spending their money to go towards conservation efforts.
>>538057278yeah, they have nothing to do with mice or the never-going-to-happen practice of eating up wires because they have nothing to do with that as mice are barely on their radar
>>538057449>So yeah, Nordic flags here are fake as shit overall.keep projecting when you cant even answer my comments in swedish, you fat fucking retard.
>>538057566>God made the white man to kill the aminals or else there would be too many aminals.
>>538057566don't bother, he's likely a liberal that would shit and fart himself if he ever saw a tree let alone real nature.
we're gonna erect some spinny fiberglass and save the planet! checkmate saudi arobia!
>>538057660based father son quality time
>>538057368Where is the data for your claim?
>>538053570Ye
>>538055367lol these windmills literally cannot make back the energy spent in the process of their production
>>538053684Wind isnt some unstoppable force.Windmills "use" the energy and decrease the force/amount of the wind. Theyre shit and should be banned.
>>538057044They lock the blades on very windy days, not "tornado-strength winds". There's 3 where I live. Well, 2 now. One of the blades fell off one of them at 2am on a calm non-windy day, and they never replaced it and instead disassembled the whole thing. Great investment.
>>538053851>>538057278>>538057660Anon, don't worry. A handful of drunk boomers taking out a dozen coyotes once a year has has absolutely ZERO impact on their survival.Coyotes are doing better than ever, honestly. LC status, they've actually been EXPANDING their range steadily over the past couple decades.This pic is 10 years old. They're probably past the Darien Gap by this point. That opens an entirely new CONTINENT for them, full of free food as most critters down there haven't had to deal with a pack hunter like the YOTE.You literally cannot stop them. The coyote is ETERNAL!
>>538053318They wilted because of the heat. You must water them.
>>538055362>if you make more electricity [through solar] than you use, you have to find a way to get rid of the excessWhat? Can you explain a bit more on that? That doesn’t sound like how electricity works at all. If nothing is asking for current, no current moves. Current depends on the consumption side of things, not the production. Without current, you have no electricity. A solar panel isn’t “accruing” electricity that is later used, it is making electrical flow available for things that may consume it right now. If I put a solar panel on the ground outside on a sunny day and connect it to nothing, you make it sound like it would explode.
>>538053318I read a story the other day that the windmill blades the UK bought from China all contain a form of asbestos.
>>538053894>can't be reused>can't be recycled>dangerous to birds>evidence that their low frequency hum screws up sleep patternsMaybe at some point far in the future we will have the technology for reusable, recyclable bird friendly materials to build windmills with.
>>538057368Thousands are a big difference than a million, faggot. Just admit you are a shitposting climate fag and move along.
>>538053784wait until you see how much waste mining coal and oil and natural gas creates
>>538053472>Windmills cannot work without oil anywayThe oil is not used up retard. It can be cleaned and used again.
>>538053589>They also can't be recycled or reused after reaching their end of life (20-25 years)That was true five years ago. It's not true today.Faced with new information, I'm sure you'll change your mind. Only an idiot would double down.
>>538057164Soon we'll be fear mongering over Indian incompetence too. It's only a matter of time until the browning of the world puts Indians in charge of a nuclear reactor who blow it up to save a little bit of izzat.Complex systems will not survive the competency crisis.
>>538053318Things break? Say it ain't so!>>538053472Retard.>>538056665>because in the free market these things cannot competeWith your logic we shouldn't have any regulations or subsidies at all.
>>538053318You should see what hailstorms do to solar farms. And windfarms. All the best places to put wind and solar in the US get haboobs, hail, tornadoes, and hurricanes.
>>538053318This picture looks fake as hell.
>>538058071excess is just wasted electricity, we dont have the ability to store it more than a daybut an energy grid that equls "theres electricity, if theres wind" then theres gaps and the grid has to bounce back to another source to balance itfor the energy efficacy, essentially preventing heartfailure, little different from your cardiovascular system works.which could effectively blow in the same sense that your own cardiovascular system begins to fail badly.> a direct pause where no electricity exist, becausethe weather doesnt allow it.clotspauses where blood isnt being pumpedpoor ratios of micros, water and sodiumno wind, no powerno blood, no powerno oxygen, no powerexcess oxygen = you're not going to save the oxygen.excess electricity = batteries only capable of storing it for a day at most (we're not there yet)
>>538058132>March 11: The rupture resulted in the release of about 164,000 gallons of crude oil,>June 29: The damage resulted in the discharge of approximately 4,800 barrels of crude>September 20: spilling about 8,400 gallons of crude>December 7: leaked about 588,000 gallons of tar sands crude>December 23: resulted in the release of approximately 83,000 gallons of crude oilThat's 848,200 gallons of crude in a year per your source. You're right it's not a million, though.
Pls buy our shit.t. Russia
>>538058480> "the problems with an energy grid is Poouwteeen's fault"SEND ME MORE MONEY FOR GOLDEN TOILETS!!!
>>538053521
>>538053894More birds are killed per year by a VAST amount simply due to flying into skyscraper windows. Look it up nigger.
>>538056526
>>538053652first Boeings now this! Smh my head
>>538054996those were used to grind down things into powder, not to make electricityflour, tea, etc
>>538054365there is no excess wind anywheredownwind, these propellerfarms cause all kinds of problemstoo little raintoo little windpollen does not get distributed properlysoil dries outdownwind the average environmental temperature RISESagain, there is no excess windwhat you take out, is missing somewhere elsethe natural tolerance ratio is 2.5%. if you go outside of that, there will be catastrophic consequences.it is just a jooo scam, this time called climate hoax, just like the otherscui bono?rather sooner than later, you'll find the jooo filling his pockets with your money.anyways, the jooos are fucked. model collapseand they are killing each other in isrealthey are a funny bunch, eh?
>>538057509>"stuff you use for anal">petroleum jellyBy coincidence? Also an oil-based product!
>>538057422>micro plants can get that down to 5 but have horrendous break even times.Oh no, think of the (((shareholders)))! How will they afford to buy more elections if they aren't getting instant returns!?!?
>>538053784>>538054609There are recyclable turbine blades now
>>538053637>They just need to be watered. With water, like out of the toiletwe dig Denmark down into the sea to cool down the earth, yessave the planet
>>538053318Made in Gyna?
>>538058458Gallons aren’t barrels, anon.Also here are some pictures of your source:https://www.fractracker.org/about-us/staffbios/Notice anything?
Here's your le based black dino-goo, bro.
>>538058917They are full of shit after all, and they enjoy playing with shit.
>>538053472You could use silicone or graphite based lubricant no problem.
>>538053472>fossil fuelsIsn't this a misnomer?
should've went with photovoltaics
>>538053784So? Crush them and put them into cement as filler?
>>538053637Get these turbines some brawndo
>>538059131I'm aware. That was in one year. We were talking about decades initially. You can take it up with the DoT. You faggots never have any sources and constantly talk out of your ass while shilling for oil companies and accusing everyone else of being a shill. >From 2004 to 2023, across the country, there were 1,187 with a total of 750,000 barrels of crude spilled https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/data-and-statistics/pipeline/pipeline-incident-flagged-files
>>538059005Do you dig them up in 30 to 50 years and the blades have become so green it no longer costs money to operate?
If nuclear is so great, why doesn't the entire world use it? That's right, because it's actually super dangerous in the hand of the incompetent. It requires actual intelligent people to build and operate, which is getting rarer each day.
All this green energy cope just to avoid building a few nuke plants.
>>538053521That what they did in Futurama after petroleum oil ran out
Hey do you guys member when liberals were up in arms about the rain forest, and muh deforestation? I member. Well did you know, the number one ingredient to a wind turbine blade is balsa wood. Do you know where balsa wood grows? The fucking rainforest.
>>538060053Data centers and military instillation will get new nuke plants. You need to moderate you energy usage.
>>538056506You sayin jews caused the Chernobyl and Fukushima accidents?>one never stops to learn about Early Life
>>538053472the reason they use oil (or a similar product), is because oil almost never fucking evaporates at all. so you can oil it once, and be done with it until end of life
>>538053472They also have a diesel engine to get them spinning.
>>538056654Rest assured I can get virtually any powerplant to explode if need be. Nuclear isn't special.
>>538053318>Aantifa anarchists did this
>>538056854Because they'd have great difficulty obtaining nuclear fuel and all sorts of components, since nobody in their right mind would sell them that shit.>they'd have to develop and build their own reactors
>>538057164>fear mongering due to general slav incompetence and nipthree mile island melted down tooso did windscale in the UK (not a meltdown but massive amount of radiation leaked into the air)and switzerland had a meltdown too, but we built it deep into a mountain so it had no consequencesthey're also a massive liability during wars, as we can see in the Ukraine. they're the most dangerous powerplants no matter how you frame it
>>538059712It's a reasonable descriptor for coal, but oil not so much.
>>538053521lol
>>538053318Fun fact, they know those things only last 4-7 years. So they build them out of pig iron, mao had the chinks scrapping together better grades of metals than those things.It cost more to process the metal for scrap than the metal is worth. Then there is the truck loads of fiberglass that has to be disposed of.
>>538058118oh. look. it grinds grain.
>>538060801Hydropower can be more dangerous. Check out the Three Gorges Dam for instance.How many people did all these nuclear power accidents combined kill anyway?>like 1000 maybe if you're generous>10000 if you're exceptionally generousThat's literally nothing.
>>538061010if it can grind grain, it can boil water.
>>538061103Yeah, instead of millstones just put two carbon discs with a clutch mechanism in there and submerge them.Friction is pretty efficient.
>>538055367>These boundaries matter enormously. Onshore wind power, for example, has a standard EROEI of about 13.2:1 but drops to 5.8:1 at point of use and just 2.9:1 when fully extended. Solar PV follows a similar pattern: 7.7:1 standard, 3.5:1 at point of use, 1.7:1 extended. Large hydropower holds up better across all three levels, coming in at 28.4:1, 13:1, and 6.5:1 respectively. When you see EROEI numbers quoted online without specifying which boundary is being used, they’re often not comparable to each other.lmao
>>538058268>Faced with new information,but you didn't provide new information, is this like when that nigger couldn't imagine not having breakfast?
>>538053318Global warming melted the windmills. We are all doomed
>>538053318dunno why they still bother with that retarded design versus omni directional turbines
>>538053318>made in americaShould have brought from China...
>>538053318Yeah. Not a single one has broken even it payback. Not a single one. They run them for fun and make work projects.
>>538059910>yall never have any sources!You made a claim and the only source you provided did not substantiate it.Then you cherry picked a year, the worst year, that even if multiplied by ten would not meet your claim.Are you delusional or are you Jewish?
>>538056321In Australia, the subsidies for green energy mean it's always able to sell at a lower price than fossil fuels. So fossil fuels can't compete during the day when solar is high. So now the government has to subsidise the coal and gas plants to stay operating during the day, so they can take over during the night. Because they are forced to not be profitable by green subsidies.
>>538058804Typical American education at work
>>538053318Nap time? Cute!
>>538058071>What? Can you explain a bit more on that? That doesn’t sound like how electricity works at all.That's because you don't know shit about shit. Obviously.No, there's no current flow. But the panels are still making it.>If I put a solar panel on the ground outside on a sunny day and connect it to nothing, you make it sound like it would explode.No, not explode. And you have to reach pretty hard to anything I said even come close to that.But they will cook themselves over time. A hell of a lot faster than if they're being properly loaded. Not an hour or nothing, probably not a day, but performance will degrade over a period of time until it's no longer making the right amount of electricity. Probably within a week, you'd be down to 85% capacity. Another week 60%. And if you have that weak panel hooked up in a string with others? Now it's a resistor that's soaking up power from working panels. And they start to degrade.No, it's not an explosion, or something that "just happens" in an instant. It's a process. It's not unheard of for panels to eventually catch fire. >>538058443No.
>>538053318>where is your green energy now?
>>538058071Energy grids all use an arbitrary voltage that every other connected piece of equipment in the country is designed for. Go back to your high school textbooks and wrap your head around the V=IR relationship. A classic example is how the Brits spin up more generators whenever a televised sports match has a break because everyone turns their kettles on at the same time. The opposite is true too, and we’ve found the limit of how much can reasonably be spun down.Solar in this country is so effective that they’ve had to install cut-off devices to isolate houses from the grid. It’s too expensive to turn the other types of power generators completely on and off every day, and setting up and running the infrastructure to maintain the correct “settings” for the grid is too expensive with all the solar power coming through. The result is a huge amount of wasted potential because our battery technology simply isn’t good enough yet.
>>538056665>It is absolutely a problem that the entire plant has to be replaced every 25 years.But think about the GDP!
>>538058719This is a better calling card than the 4 of chuds.
>>538059757
>>538064878This anon fucks. But I like nooklear muhself.
>>538057652Norwegian anon exposed you fucking brown immigrant retard! You couldn't understand shit of Norwegian or Swedish and you had no fucking clue about Swedish history. >>537997813You are fake as a three-dollar bill. Fucking go home, gay Mohammed!
>>538064878See>>538064127It's all fake mate. The government (you) is paying for all those subsidies and all those rebates. On batteries and panels that will go in the bin in ten to twenty years. Meanwhile the government is paying to keep the coal and gas plants open, since they run the fucking country. Go check the aemo dashboard every now and then, you'll realise we'd all be in darkness if we turned off the plants without 300 billion in batteries.
>>538057874Anon, you are retarded. Pressure gradients can't be used up from simple windmills.>>538058077Everything that comes from rock has a percentage of asbestos, everything, but also, most turbine blades for the UK are manufactured in the UK so idk what the fuck you are reading.
>>538059872That makes sense, it does have electrolytes.
>>538064878I meant nem watch. This is as we speak.
>>538058071>If I put a solar panel on the ground outside on a sunny day and connect it to nothing, you make it sound like it would explode.Nigger, you said it yourself, CONNECTED TO NOTHING, there's no current flow not because there's no "demand", but because what you're describing is not, in fact, an electrical circuit.
Shoulda bought Chinese solar panels.
>>538053472I dont see any oil in nuclear fusion reactors do you? Stfu about vacuum pump oil.
>>538053318>>538053472>>538053621>>538053684These posters are all paid actors
>>538065800That's why the green nignogs like to use "capacity" as a yardstick.
>>538053472This exactly. If a technology requires even the tiniest bit of oil then we should discard it and burn coal instead
>>538065900They like to play the storage capacity game too. They talk about how we only need so many GWh, but their capacity numbers don't even run the grid at low demand for half a day.
>>538058804it is clearly producing energy to do that, retard nigger mutt
>>53805460985-90% of a turbine's material (such as the steel tower, copper, and concrete base) is highly recyclable. it's the fibre glass blades that are the problem.
>>538065856>I dont see any oil in nuclear fusion reactors do you? Stfu about vacuum pump oil.Do you know how much concrete is used to make nuclear power plants? The production of cement requires massive quantities of fossil fuels, not to mention the amount of fossil fuels required to strip mind for uranium.>>538065948Strawman fallacy. The point is that modern civilization requires fossil fuels. Modern humanity is an oil-based civilization. People think we can have the same level of civilization if we move away from fossil fuels but they refuse to accept the fact that civilization runs on fossil fuels. It's a delusional pipe dream to think we can have everything we have now if we got rid of fossil fuels. If you're arguing against petroleum, then you better be prepared to live before the industrial age.
>>538065898Youre a faggot and windmills do more to destroy the environment than Gulf Oil spills and Tritium ocean dumps
>>538058443>we dont have the ability to store it more than a daysee >>538057447pumped hydro can store excess renewable energy for months if needed.
>>538060352pretty hard to explode a solar farm
>>538066235Tritium dumps literally are benign tho, cock sucking aside
>>538066247What he conveniently left out is that pumped hydro does in fact require specific geography. He also failed to mention that Australia's flagship PHES project blew way out of budget and the cost per kwh far exceeds any PHES estimate. You cannot just plop down a bunch of PHES. You need specific geography that allows you to pump a sourcr uphill and then run it through a turbine.
>>538053472synoils or algae based petrochemicalsall you need is a hod and humid ass greenhouse in Louisiana, a water circulation system, and a catalytic reactor
>>538065750https://www.bradley-enviro.co.uk/news/359-asbestos-found-in-imported-wind-turbine-components-highlights-ongoing-risksNo they bought some Windmill blades that have a form of asbestos that the UK banned in like the 80's.
>>538053318where is it? what happened?
The two right next to each other isn’t very convincing dr evil
>>538066247Global Atlas of Closed-Loop Pumped Hydro Energy Storagehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S25424351203055961 GW per million people + 20 hours energy storage discharge = 20 GWh energy storage per million people. 25 million people require 500 GWh of energy storage.E.g., 20 billion litres of pumped hydro accounts for 1 million people.The ANU atlas identifies 23 million gigawatt-hours (GWh) of potential storage capacity globally. The entire world's electricity consumption is less than 1% of that.
>>538066426That's not the fault of the tech, that's the fault of the morons picking the wrong sites and failing at basic construction.
>>538066753I don't dislike PHES, it's better than lithium for price point and because it helps with the inertia problem.But PHES isn't magic. If you look into these estimates, you'll often find (like i did with Australian ones) that they sre very liberal in their application of what is a potential site. Most of the applicable sites are so remote that it's not cost effective to use them. The point im making about snowy 2.0, is that they use csiro estimates on PHES to justify the green revolution, then snowy costs drastically more than their paper estimates. So in order to build all these storage solutions, the wind turbines and the solar panels, we could have bought ten times the capacity of nuclear or coal plants. You can build capacity cheaper than storage and capacity. That's common sense.
>>538066975Application sites are everywhere >>538066670Pick the best ones and crack on.The same stupidity that leads to wind turbine sand PV panels is being applied to this.>then snowy costs drastically more than their paper estimates. I don't recall anything that hasn't cost more than paper estimates.>we could have bought ten times the capacity of nuclear or coal plants. Nuclear will never happen here. Australia lacks the nationhood and requisite demography. Nothing short of expelling non-Whites will allow for that sort of energy independence. And coal is toxic shit, and one of the worst mining processes of all. It's best setup as an last-resort auxiliary netowork with its own supply lines, since, for instance, you can ship coal around the place on single railroads that are easily repaired if targetted.>You can build capacity cheaper than storage and capacity.If you're going to blow budgets, best blow it on energy. It's not like the money isn't there anyway.
>>538056825>>538057178ukraine is Russia? tell your politician about it
>>538053521>Use whale oil.Renewable resource
>>538053318Unlike Fukushima, this won't take a decade or two to clean up, and the zone around it is still inhabitable.>B-but thing got knocked over by fierce wind! Grog no like!
>>538055367This, I don't understand the argument "it still uses oil" when the obvious answer is almost always that it uses that oil way more efficiently than literally burning it in a 20-30% efficient internal combustion engine or a 40% efficient power plant.
>>538066753It's the winds fault broIt blows too hardWe have a wind problem.
>>538066753
>>538067576You're clearly not listening to what im saying. It's nice that your link says there's heaps of sites. But if you have to build infrastructure to it, then build an on site community, then costs baloon. Which is why they tend to filter down the site numbers the further you get into these assessments. Then you're left with a handful, that aren't actually able to provide the storage you are promising.>If you're going to blow budgets, best blow it on energy. It's not like the money isn't there anyway.Instead of blowing it on energy, we're blowing it on disposable solar panels, propping up coal plants due to artifical market forces and building storage for inconsistent green energy. What crack are you smoking bro? I've already pointed out in this thread that renewables can't be competitive without subsidies, I've already shown that we are at this moment running coal full power because of the weather. Snowys capacity looks great on paper, but its output means we'd need a dozen of them to feasibly run the grid for half a day.
>>538065644>>538065800I'm not discounting how much of a scam the whole thing is. Trust me, I work on a cloud system to help tradies keep track of all the STCs and other crap the government has whipped up. All I'm saying is aemo threw a fit a couple years ago and demanded every house be installed with a "backstop mechanism", which is a polite way to say "off switch". The local grids can't handle every house dumping energy back in on the most extreme days.
>>538066247>pumped hydro canhydro can, its water.not wind turbines.thats what im referring to with "cardiovascular failure" as an energy grid explanation
>>538069115It read as "we just need more storage bro"
>>538053318Why aren't we just building tesla towers and getting free energy at this point? There's literal hobbiests on youtube proving they work, all this garbage is a scam
>>538069115>I work on a cloud system to help tradies keep track of all the STCs and other crap the government has whipped up.The what?
>>538069068My system is a long-term solution that internalises all the resilience upfront, which requires high capex for nearly zero ongoing opex. Everyone else defers to short-term "solutions" that result in even worse problems by the mid-term, which externalises all the costs and fallout. The latter has been tried and done, and it resulted in what we have today - net system failure.>Then you're left with a handful, that aren't actually able to provide the storage you are promising.Even when filtering down all the sites, according to typical bullshit since most people are useless retards filled with excuses, you're still left with more than enough in all the right locations.
>>538069597Small-scale Technology Certificates. It's nonsense our government came up with to subsidise solar installation. Way more complicated than it needed to be but that's par for the course with governments.
>>538053728underrated
>>538055362>There's no amount of solar that is economically viable, save individual panels that you take camping to charge your phone and flashlights and stuff.My emergency backup system (Jackery, 2 8000 Wh stacks) works great for that. It was pricey but I had a bonus at work and got it on one of their 60% off sales. My house was built with rooftop solar in mind but the original owners never got around to it, or Reagan killed the tax program or something. I ran the numbers on it all but never could get them to work. Plus the rooftop service bait angle. Plus the need to replace every x years angle. Plus the etc. angle.On a community well, so that goes out with outage. Otherwise the battery stack is mainly for refrigeration (recharge fridges/freezers every couple days if it's not cold enough to keep them safe) and running 1 fan to push wood stove heat in winter. Got a bunch of smaller solar-charged options as you describe. Like Wx/SW radio, lamps (some with solar and crank), etc. The huge whole house generation systems are just lazy-ass thinking for Sustainable Karens who can't run simple spreadsheets. "How will I run my clothes dryer!?!?" "What about the children's television?!?!?!" "I need my espresso machine!" Etc.
>>538069762>nearly zero ongoing opex.You realise storage requires operation and maintenance costs right? That pumps of that size don't last, that hydro turbines require maintenance? You are trying to justify a system of storage, to combat the fact that renewables are inconsistent, instead of trying to focus on a consistent form of energy generation. As i said, we'd need a dozen snowys to actually run the grid, the cost of that far exceeds building modern coal plants or nuclear plants. You can say people are too retarded for that to work, but you're physically incapable of absorbing anything I've said to you, so I wont bother going on.
>>538057090> livestock
>>538070896Single-rate turbines last decades. Concrete faced rockfill dams (CFRD) last longer and are a major upgrade over the usual concrete gravity dams with seismic immunity and rapid repairability. >You are trying to justify a system of storage, to combat the fact that renewables are inconsistent, instead of trying to focus on a consistent form of energy generation.You clearly don't understand basic physics.With geography covered and water treated as an abundant, infinite kinetic loop, the secondary components fall into protective roles:- CCGTs move from a frequent auxiliary to a deep-reserve strategic backstop.- Biogas anaerobic digestion (AD) and hydrothermal carbonization (HTC) systems run continuously at their thermodynamic sweet spots, processing waste streams into biomethane and hydrochar.By shifting gas from a primary thermodynamic fuel to an insurance policy for a gravity grid, the weaponization of energy is vastly diminished if not removed altogether.The cascading hydro tiers keep running indefinitely on their own closed water cycle.The ETES and CAES systems handle immediate daily load shifting.The domestic AD-HTC plants continue producing biomethane.It's a stable, post-combustion, post-intermittent grid architecture where the primary "fuel" is gravity.>As i said, we'd need a dozen snowys to actually run the grid, the cost of that far exceeds building modern coal plants or nuclear plants. Ok. So it exceeds that cost. It's still affordable.
>>538060253
>>538057278they can ask Bruce how that turns out
>>538071400>You clearly don't understand basic physics>infinite kinetic loopKek. Yeah okay champ, we'll just smash a few up no worries. With all that abundant money our state and federal governments have. You're living in a fantasy world, im living in reality. Build coal/gas, build a pipeline from west to east, rely on that till nuclear can be built. Instead You're reinventing the wheel and telling me it'll be easy and the cost is irrelevant since we have infinite money or something.
>>538053784who's terrible idea was it to make them out of fiberglass rather than aluminum?
>>538071668Coal and gas can be used in the mid-term before getting integrated a dormant auxiliary network.But it'll never happen because people like yourself are everywhere in this country and you ignore the simple fact that non-Whites will prevent all of it from happening, most especially nuclear.And if you're concerned about money, then look into the losses incurred by having non-Whites merely exist on the continent.
>>538054609landfills are illegal in the us now
>>538071839Why exactly does the existence of shitskins, posit that we should choose your pipe dream over mine? The whole country is likely to have rolling blackouts in ten years or less anyway. I dont really care to read your material, I'm telling you ive assessed the Australian data on proposed sites for PHES, without your auxiliaries and the cost benefit is not there. You'd pay enormous staffing costs to put people in remote locations, build mountains of infrastructure and all the while we're bleeding money from green policies.
>>538059005may i see them
>>538071839Money is a non-issue for sovereign currency governments. No idea why conservatives always drone on about it. Governments that issue their own money can never run out of it.
>>538053318Trump said he hated those things
>>538053318Wind power is retarded, just use tidal power bro.
>>538072078Ah yep, i read your little science article. They literally used satellites and topography to determine "viable" locations. Without assessing the practicalities of building the systems. Wow, who would have seen this coming.
Wind turbines are easily the worst example of green energy.
>>538053521Show your true flag you japanese dog
>>538065612>Norwegian anon exposed you fucking brown immigrant retard!memeflaggot, hes not even a norwegianits the same spammer as the gypsy, the exact same style of writing and copy pasted replies.theres not a single thing different about them and neither has shown that theyre even white.youre even linking the thread where im pointing it out, he refuses to prove hes a christian in norway at all cost.just like it might even be you since you memeflaggotand youre not even engaging in our political debate, probably becuase youre uninformed for obvious reasons.
>>538072078It's an alternative to the green bullshit and your already failed model that led to green bullshit.>>538072405You assessed the practicalities? From the net? Wow. Take your conservative bullshit back to canberra.
>>538072203Conservatives are only capable of conserving money for when their progressive counter-parts come back in after fucking their wives and daughters.
>>538072715>canberra>conservative You need to go back yank, hope the weather is alright in pine gap.I just want cheap electricity you dumb nigger. Im not sure how wanting that is the cause of green energy policy. The cause of that is the labor and greens parties.
>>538053637You retard, how are the they supposed to produce electricity without electrolytes?
>>538053318I don't hate on "renewables" but they can't be relied upon to provide consistent peak demand load, so they will always be supplementary sources for a country like the US without some serious breakthroughs on battery tech. If the goal is to reduce emissions then nuclear is the only current option that scales. But fuck emissions. We've done way more than enough of that (Euros too) and it's time for chinks and jeets to pull their weight in that department instead of expecting Westerners to do it for the whole planet.
>>538073395>but they can't be relied upon to provide consistent peak demand loadthis, and you cant just allow a "gap" or a hiccup happen in the system.it needs to bounce back to something that is certain to fill that gap in an instant before it happens.thats why you need nuclear reactors which is always standing ready.
>>538073776>>538072664>>538069242>>538059012Fucking shitskin moron. He has been here for years. He speaks Norwegian and has translated Norwegian articles before AI. You are a fucking brown newfag and couldn't answer him. FUCK YOU and GET THE FUCK BACK!
>>538074011>Fucking shitskin moron. He has been here for years. He speaks Norwegiantalking alking about yourself in third person with a memeflag as an anonymous user that nobody knowshow very christian behavior
>>538053521Should we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
>>538074101You have no comeback, you have nothing to say, so instead you make up some shizo story. He exposed you as a brown refugee immigrant psycho and as a true fucked up immigrant, you only reply with lies and personal attacks. That's why you are third world and Swedes are not. What time is it in Sweden now? 5 or 6? Have you been up the whole night posting your brown shit like a crazy shitzo on meds? Are you writing from a mental institution?
>>538074101Good morning Omaaaaaaar, Mohammad for fucked in the ass
>>538074390looks like the christian spamm discord is alive and well,not that youre going to contribute with anything meaningful today.no different from any other day or the near future.
>>538072664He was fighting with Varg on the pole in summer 2018 or 2019, can't remember. Only in the last few years have we been flooded by brown Haijis like you. It stinks to high heaven when guys like you post.
>>538053472Sure is a lot of impotent seething at this post. Greentards got btfo
>>538074606why are you ashamed of applying your geographic location, is america really that bad?the only place with actual christians that isnt predomantly blacks and sandniggers?
>>538074473>>538074739Is it true that you came from lgbt? There is something very gay and catty about you. Like you take it up your ass hard A LOT! Did your brown uncle molest you as a kid? Like you guys always do in the third world? Maybe gangraped weekly behind the Mosque after your Friday prayers?
>>538074903>Is it true that you came from lgbt?thats what you said when you were using the norwegian flag.while desperately projecting the idea of whiteness if one could translate texts.
>>538074739Are you in your manic phase now brown tranny? Even the your heavy meds couldn't slow you down so you've been posting your brown large turds all over pol whole night in Sweden while larping as a blonde Aryan Swede, when you can't fucking speak the language and had to run away from Norwegian anon? >>538075006Yes, Norwegian anon said you came from lgbt and you couldn't answer. You larped as an oldfag, and when he asked for archive evidence, you again couldn't answer. You are the brownest and most dishonest asshat on the whole board. It's time for you to leave Europe, nigger.
>>538075006Post hand w/timestamp, refugee.
>>538053521>To meet today's global demand for machinery and automotive lubricants using historical whaling methods, we would need to harvest roughly 8.2 million whales every single year.>The global population of sperm whales is only around 300,000. To run the modern world on whale oil, we would wipe out every whale on Earth in less than 10 weeks.Kek
>>538074171Yes I think we shall.
>>538075006>>538074739>>538074101>>538072664Post hand w/timestamp, shitskin refugee.
>>538075207>Yes, Norwegian anon saidchristian meltdownamerican pretending to be norwegian and hungarian while spamming copy pasted messages meant for a single person on 4chanliterally saving pre-written texts meant only for me
>>538057652>>538072664>>538074473>>538074101>>538075660Post hand w/timestamp, shitskin refugee.
>>538075660Is picrel how you ended up in Sweden, shitskin?
>>538075660>>538075006>>538072664Post hand w/timestamp, shitskin refugee.
>>538074473>looks like the christian spamm discord is alive and well,>not that youre going to contribute with anything meaningful today.>no different from any other day or the near future.
>thread devolves in racebait d&chello retards, reminder it's the jews who want to get you dependent on trash tech that is doomedthey're currently destroying america from within and setting up weimerica 2.0if you're looking anywhere other than at the juden, you're doing it wrong and ngmi
>>538056120>This guy is not a native speaker or a stupid and extremely Americanized zoomer. Reads LLMish, but with mistakes.Spot on fren, he got exposed as a brown refugee here:>>537997813>>538076325>ONLY Jews are the problem, forget us brown invaders. Pointing out brown Muslims, Spics and Hindus flooding is "racebaiting". Why, yes, I am brown and Muslim, coming here to take over your land. How did you know?
>>538076325christians dont actually care about any real issues of the world and how we live.all that truly matters to this is to feel like theres still a moral high horse and that theyre accepted by white europeansthey have no real political anchors, let alone "underground" active groups and this vacuum is killing them inside.this feeling that theyre not "the thing" even with mandated state funding to maintain empty churches
>>538076910Cope more, nigger. Post hand w/timestamp, shitskin refugee.
>>538056654>oy vey we can't have nuclear, think uh da Chernobyl thehr goy!Shut the fuck up, you sephardic ogre. Chernobyl only happened because the USSR cheaped out on engineering process -and- had a terrible system of government/economic management (which is oddly similar to 2020s USA, where actual morons are in charge and force down bad decisions).Modern modular nuclear power generation stations make 'meltdowns' virtually impossible. Before you scream about the nuclear waste, most of what you think you know is probably a product of the jewish Simpsons cartoon. Some byproduct can be repurposed and the rest can be safely encased in cement.
>>538077226https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Cfmbh61TQ
>>538077309What are you doing in Sweden sandnigger Omar? You are already exposed both here: 538056120and here>>537997813time for you to go home to your tyical muslim homeland, picrel. Stop larping as an Aryan Swede, sandnigger.
>>538055367>They produce far more energy at a far less cost than that same oilYou are either a pants shitting retard or a paid in full Big Wind shill. Wind turbines are among the most expensive kilowatt hours of any conceivable electricity generation source. This also fails to account for the severe negative effects that wind turbine complexes have (infrasonics, micro climates, wakes and dead zones [over water], bird destruction, the inabilty to actually return the land to any arable use, etc.) The answer is nuclear and also NOT having jewish faggots create millions of datacenters so that jeets can pretend to know how to do things. There is a serious problem of overconsumption and the refusal of most people to be good stewards of resources. However, this is orders worse with non-Whites, which is another reason why they have no place in the West, and should be under protective custody for their own good. India's beaches should be resort destinations. Instead, these shit eating demoniacs turned them into deplorable dumps. And the same jews running wind turbine scams are the same jews demanding we take millions of these 75 iq abbos.
>>538077309>>538077540Exposed as a non-Swede here: >>538056120
>>538053521Nuke the gay baby whales for Jesus!
>>538053784These seems super wasteful, they can’t repurpose the Fiberglass
>>538053472Let me at em motherfucker I'll lube em up with my cum
>>538076910Keep seething 3rd world monkey faggot.Post hand w/timestamp, shitskin refugee.
>>538077571oil doesnt even seem to be the main problem, we see a more significant growth rate of green lifebut the main issue seem to be dry air and the quality of soilthe most realistic approach would be to build cities from scratch that are wide enough for green life to migrateand essentially purifying the choked city smog that would also improve general health and quality of lifebasically distance between trees and wider city infrastructure
>>538078153Le Rêddit take. webm (You), and you have to go back.
>>538057842Why are you making shit up, anon?>Source: Lazard LCOE>https://web.archive.org/web/20230827132200/https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/2023-levelized-cost-of-energyplus/
>BWC vortex wind energy pylonsIMHO We shouldn't share it with shitskins,look at what little they have done with any hand-me-down
>>538053851reeeeeeee
>>538078376cunt. i am an insurance adjuster. i did handled an insurance claim on a windmill where the central hub exploded during high wind and the blades flew off in every direction. insurance 'paid' for the windmill but depreciated it since it was 19 years old. they basically paid nothing as the full depreciation of its value was 20 years. >best case scenario: 20 years and then trash
>>538079221>i did handled No habla ingles? Sounds like you were part of the cleanup crew
