We don't get a refund, the money goes straight back to the business that already raised prices to offset the added cost https://nypost.com/2026/06/29/business/us-tariff-refunds-rush-into-company-accounts-ahead-of-deadline-this-week-never-thought-this-day-would-come/
>>538081049this i9s what "tax the rich" looks like lmao, lefties BTFO forever
>>538081049bootstrap yourself harder out of the national debt, citizen
>>538081172Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... no. This is a shitshow precisely because of the way Trump did it. There is noting illegal about trade protectionism. There is a lot that's illegal about enacting massive tariffs via executive fiat. The kicker is that Trump didn't raise taxes on the rich at all. He raised taxes on the POOR through tariffs... and then gave the rich huge tax cuts.
>>538081251>POOR through tariffsLOL poor people do not own foireign corpos retard
>>538081049and prices continued to go up
>>538081319Well now refunds are getting paid out maybe prices will drop, no reason to stay so high it isn't like consumers are earning more with so many layoffs
>>538081251I live in Washington and get taxed to shit for making 41k a year, don't qualify for any of my states faggy benefits despite always going broke before payday, and my rich neighbors just find loopholes to get around paying like all rich people do. You're a useful dipshit if you honestly think "taxing the rich" does anything but tax people barely getting by.
>>538081394no reason for it to go down, no one is going to risk manufacturing in the country when the courts regularly side with foreign capitalYou lost tranny
>>538081394>Well now refunds are getting paid out maybe prices will drop, no reason to stay so high it isn't like consumers are earning more with so many layoffsnah, prices will stay high because people will still payCrapitalism for the poor, socialism for the rich
>>538081394>Well now refunds are getting paid out maybe prices will dropNo they won't. You already demonstrated you're willing to pay more for less.>no reason to stay so highEvery company has to increase their earnings every quarter, and they've been given a "legitimate" means to increase the prices.Realistically the tariffs only cost them a fraction of the price they had their consumers "offset"
Scam of the century
>>538081464Sorry that's happening to you. That's why we want to tax the rich. If we can get taxes on the rich back to where they were circa post-WWII, we could plausibly reinvest in America to take some of those costs off your hands. For example, we could subsidize the creation of more housing and make public transportation totally free. We could move to a single-payer healthcare system which wouldn't force people like you to shoulder those costs yourselves.
These tariffs obliterated Trump's economic recovery. No tariffs + no Iran War and prices would be so low that people would be erecting statues of Trump.
>>538081898if there were competent governments anywhere. Here we would give our government endless money and they'd still fuck it up, nothing would change.
>>538081975Why did he do it? I remember his first term everything was cheaper until the pandemic which he handled terribly by acting like it was real and even pushing the experimental vaccines through with operation warp speed
>>538081049Americans paid the tariffs first, they paid higher prices since corpos just pushed the costs on to the consumer, Americans pay the refunds to corpos, the higher prices will stay too.Total humiliating.
>>538081975This is kind of the problem with American politics -- we're economically illiterate. Prices coming down is called deflation. Deflation is an economic crisis in basically every serious economic framework from Marx to Friedman. You might think you want prices to come down, but what you actually want is for your purchasing power to rise relative to the cost of goods. That might sound like a pedantic point, but it unfortunately isn't. You need a raise, not a deal on the cost of goods. But we're so incredibly buckbroke by capital and enculturation that to many of us it seems like a moral sin to question the allocation of society's wealth. We are taught that economic success is natural -- that markets are objective and success or failure are closer to acts of God in their naturalism than anything else. In reality, economic success is contingent and often totally arbitrary. The people who have succeeded use the proceeds of their success to rig the game further in their favor. You deserve better than what you're getting. The rich have no more a right to extraordinary, literally world-ending wealth than you have to take it from them in turn.
>>538082061He wanted to do all of this in the first term, too. Remember how much turnover there was in his administration the guest time around? It seemed like someone was quitting or getting fired every week. Each and every one of those people refused to perform actions like starting a war in Iran or implementing universal tariffs. They protected us from what's currently happening... and then they warned us about it. The signs were there. You just didn't pay close enough attention.
>>538082394>Remember how much turnover there was in his administration the guest time around? It seemed like someone was quitting or getting fired every week.Because the corrupt Democrats spied on and framed his admin and threatened everyone with prison you fucking nigger dipshit retard
>>538081049How will these companies work out how to pay the money back to consumers?
>>538082034Why would they need to be competent, since they are already getting money? Now if you were to chop a few heads, oh boy would they become competent.
>>538081394US companies tend to pass on tariffs to the consumer at around 135% (i.e., 100% + tip). Prices won't come down now a new normal has been established.
>>538081541This nigger gets it
>>538081049No, business raised prices and then sold the rights for future refunds to Lutnick's sons. Your tax money is going directly to that jew. They bought it from Wallmart and many other megacorps for cents on the potential dollar.And then Lutnick himself worked to make it so he gets paid.
>>538081394I mean, Trump could cut prices but he'd have to use whatever your competition + markets authority is called and admit that his tariffs raised prices for consumers.I think he'd rather you were poorer.
>>538081049>So how much will Trump's tariffs end up costing tax payers?NothingYou collect the tariff you pay it back, you break even. I suppose the amount paid back might go up if its adjusted for inflation; but that's not really a loss its just inflation.
>>538083532Technically true but he appears to have spent the tariff money several times over.
>>538083379Wasn't Amazon planning to tell customers exactly how much the tariffs cost them? And they only backed down after the Whitehouse said no?
>>538083532Tax payers already ate the cost of tariffs, you pay taxes and you buy stuff. You get no refund even though you paid more and now prices are permanently inflated since they never go down
>>538083765this
>>538083765Shame on you for falling for fake news. Are you really mislead that easily?
>>538083532>>538083569>Technically true but he appears to have spent the tariff money several times over.Yeah, well that's just a bit more thrown on to our $40 TRILLION national debt.
>>538081251The worst part is he ruined tariffs forever, now anyone who suggests sensible economic protectionism will be laughed out while pointing to trumps retard neocon cudgel tariffs
>>538085739Just wait another hundred years... almost exactly, actually. I know it's totally arbitrary and coincidental, but it's uncanny how we are repeating the conditions which led to the Great Depression: wealth inequality, massively deregulated markets, and obviously the tariffs. We even repealed Glass-Steagall (albeit under Clinton) -- one of a suite of bills implemented in the 30s, at the height of the Great Depression, in direct response to irrational greed in the banking sector. That was a huge component of the 2008 crash and, guess what? Nothing was ever fixed. Banks are STILL formulating byzantine derivative packages and acting like nothing can ever hurt them. After all... are they wrong? Everyone who caused 2008 was bailed out. No one who caused it spent a day in prison. History may not repeat itself, but it sure seems like it's fucking trying... but it seems like it's trying to gather ALL of our major crises together into one event. Today, we have Depression-era inequality and tariffs, 1970s-style inflation trauma, 2008-style financial abstractions, and on top of it MAYBE a fucking Industrial-level technological disruption. All of it with a total fucking moron and madman at the helm because social media has finally given capital THE scale onto which they can place their thumbs such that a hundred million grugs can be successfully mobilized... not under rubrics of class or even political ideology, but instead just by raw force of social media identitarianism.I don't understand why more people aren't freaked the fuck out.
>>538086105I though we were all accelerationists, was I duped?
