This entire concept is retarded and is leading to the destruction of all our nations, and like the retards that most people are they are trying to combat the problems caused by this flawed concept by participating in the very same flawed concept that caused them. They've all gone mad. The vast majority are of the same ability as a child when it comes to running a nation, they don't understand what is needed, they don't understand what sacrifices must be made, and even if they did they certainly aren't going to give up THEIR pudding without having a metldown.The west is comprised of atomised individuals, the only way to appeal to them for their vote is by offering them things, like bribes, free money for this, cut tax for this, your house is worth more if we do this, your pension is worth more if we do that. The end result is not a nation, it's a fucking shit show. Look around you all. Everything has turned to shit. There is no concept of a nation. Just greedy self interested fucks. There is no political solution because the political system is fundamentally flawed. The west is filled with invaders and everyone is acting like it's normal and worrying about their pudding instead because flawed system allowed it.Enough, someone has to take charge and fix this shit, fuck all the simple minded greedy fucks and fuck their self serving votes. Anyone pushing that Democracy can fix this is most likely one of these greedy fucks, they'll usually have a grift going and be taking money to promote it, pay attention. These people are the types that got us here. Follow them off a cliff if you want, otherwise they should all be shunned.
>>538086768Democracy in a society with non-whites will not work.
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>thinks we live in a democracyLol. Do you have a loicense for that opinion?
>>538086852Democracy works in an ethnically homogenous state, but totalitarianism works in a multicultural society. t. Socrates or whatever
I can't think of anyone besides I guess myself who I'd trust to have total political powerThere are problems with democracy but the alternative seems much worse
>>538087314>says can't trust others>supports a system that literally gives voting power to shitskins,drug addicts,wymin, faggots,tranniesLmao
>>538086919Fun fact: Hate speech laws were introduced here in 1948 after and likely due to pressure from Jewish groups in the US due to an obsessed chud distributing antisemitic flyers. Sounds like /pol/ bullshit, but it's true.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_ethnic_or_racial_hatred#Sweden
>>538087415Who then do you think should be dictator?
>>538086768We don't need to end democracy, we just need to end democracy for women and non-natives. Everything was fine before kikes came in and started influencing politics.
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>>538087483Anyone, if they're not good you kill them, because they're visible.The current oligarchies that rule us are invisible and hidden behind infinite layers of bullshit.
>>538086768Change it so that only people with jobs can vote. You no contribute to society? You no get to decide.
>>538088579People with nuclear weapons and money printers aren't letting you decide shit.
>>538088531A guy with total political power is pretty hard to kill and besides I don't want to kill anyoneI can't imagine this "system" being much beyond but nonstop slaughter
>>538087501Why? Might as well just choose a dictator and be over with it. Then they can run the country and not a popularity content with those of average intelligence and below, who outnumber intelligent people by far. Part of this agreement must be that the people are armed too. And if they become a bad leader they'll can just be removed by force, otherwise they're free to run the country.and get on with the job. What we have at the moment is a mess and has led to the downfall and destruction of the west.
>>538089209You have to be careful because most of the time democracy has ended it turned into dictatorship. And most dictatorships end up being run by a delusional cult of personality Kim Jong Un style who is usually extremely corrupt and incompetent.
>>538089315I would make a good dictator, but I have no interest in dealing with all power hungry low lives that populate that arena. People always end up with shit dictators because they look for people who tried to climb to that position, who are the wrong people entirely. You need a dictator only that does it because they doubt the competency of others, and not because they want power. The flaw with this however is they hardly ever gain power because they're not as fanatical about it as the shitheads.
Democracy is fine, world just needs a big reset. Capitalism just always creates an unsustainable bubble by design and we are due the biggest collapse ever
>>538087501We need to end it temporarily to undo the damage that's been done. It's gonna take like 30 years. Remove the invaders, fix the birthrate, re-industrialize, reorganize the economy away from this scamming oligarchy.But the person doing that has to be a very particular sort of person, like George Washington was.-- Adamantly against corruption, while being willing to play the game to get into power.-- The highest degree of morality. Doesn't take liberties with his secretaries, have a secret cocaine habit, or a dark past. Someone upstanding, honest and fair.-- They have to be both a fierce warrior, and an understanding guardian-- They have to listen to others without being ruled by them.-- They have to not want the job but do it out of a sense of duty and righteousness.-- They have to be willing to concede power.I'll tell you one thing. It's not gonna be a current politician or media personality. Such a man would likely be a local soccer coach, or a local businessman who does marathons and charity work. One of those upstanding gold hearted people.
>>538089749Democracy just grants power to the best propagandists, whoever controls the TV channels, whoever controls the media, whoever controls the internet. That doesn't even matter if they're part of your tribe. You're putting the future of your nation in the hands of those of average intelligence and below and allowing them to be propagandised by anyone and everyone. It's retarded. Do you run your home like that? Do you let other men text your women freely? Do you let strangers talk to your children? Fuck know, because you know they're retarded and susceptible to the games of others. If the political system is the father of a nation then democracy is the biggest dead beat lazy piece of shit failure of a father.
>>538088971>A guy with total political power is pretty hard to killEasier than if you don't know he exists.>I can't imagine this "system" being much beyond but nonstop slaughterThere will be good times and bad, but when you think your elite doesn't exist they can never be held accountable.
>>538089904>Fuck knowKek, I need coffee, retarded typo
>>538089933If it's so dangerous to be in the spotlight then couldn't these invisible elites just have a puppet be the dictator?
>>538089904Yeah but there's also a set of people with greater competence and political awareness who are indeed competent voters. And the mass populsce does have information contained within that an election can measure.So clearly it needs to be some type of integrated aristocracy, but also have democratic elements.In other words it's gonna be a more complicated edifice. It will likely take some doing to get a system with the right balance. You would need to take a scientific approach and honestly study what is working, what isn't
>>538090042>If it's so dangerous to be in the spotlightIt's not when people believe they chose him. If he sucks it's you fault for voting wrong or not voting hard enough. Onto the next guy!>couldn't these invisible elites just have a puppet be the dictator?They do, they switch them out every few years.
>>538086768Democracy is a fraud, the tyranny of banks, landlords, real estate speculators, and lobbyists. All of whom discredit, undermine, and ridicule the system until people are embarrassed to be associated with it.Setting up a new party is well and good, but the structure of the political process forces them to become part of the problem.One thing that I hate about the "right-wing" (doesn't really exist but it does for lack of a better word) is that they don't understand power, but the left does understand power. They understand that fear and hatred unifies people. Their ideological framework is rooted in Marxist power hierarchies. They know how to take power by any means necessary and use it to destroy their enemy. It's baked into their entire political schema and is the fully functioning version Saul Alinsky's rules.The Athenian tradition accords that immutable characteristics, such as race and sex, being fundamental to our position must be provable through argument. The Socratic form of good makes the rationale of race and its implications impossible to justify within mainstream discourse, which defaults to all "humans" are one and access to White people is a human right. Once this assumption is made you effectively forfeit your right to self-determination anywhere as White people with modern immigration policies. These are contradictions present in our inherited political philosophy. The new axiom needs to be the "irrational" preservation of Europeans, which isn't any more nor less rational than the idea of "universal human rights" (for non-Whites). Maybe a pincer movement would work, whereby a group splits into two parties on the left and right only to merge as one after the drama is conducted. And maybe two associated lobby groups go with each. But it's all coordinated as two parts of a singular network.
>>538086852Democracy doesn't fucking work period. Someone will always be pushing to enfranchise some flavor of woman or foreigner.
>>538087501Sure, but we had that already and somehow all the racist white men agreed to give citizenship and a say in our country to NIGGERS
>>538086852>>538086768the problem with democracy is that you let everyone vote. romans, the greeks and founding father all limited it in some way.