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You lost racists
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>Donald Trump takes L after L, day after day.

How does he live with himself?
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>>538098456
¡Nuestra victoria es inevitable ahora, gringos!
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>>538098456
100% predictable. The people getting their hopes up for this to pass are all morons.
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Plan B: make life hell for immigrants and their jewish advocates
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>>538098456
lmao, where is the faggot that shilled this shit for months?
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>>538098834
nope. sorry timmy, but the civil rights act means that unlimited third worlders are allowed to stay here and get unlimited gibs, and if you push back against that you're a racist and we'll arrest you for it on hate crime charges.

just shut up and die timmysan
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guiz the supreme court can't keep getting away with it! they are thwarting our glorious god emperor trump! heckin do somthing! ill go start another reddit thread on t_d!
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>>538098803
yep both sides of the jewish empire want this to continue
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Alito is retiring
Pedophiles win again
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>>538098456
>11 stars on gold eagle
>like the 11 states of the confederacy
>which got smashed

what is the symbology
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How did Trump become american?
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>>538099567
America is for White People. Why would I care if thousands of blonde haired germans and swedes illegally crossed the border?

We only care about border crossings because the people doing it are disgusting greasy filthy brownoid rapists and thieves
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Total Migger Death
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>>538098929
hiding under a rock like always
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>>538098456
>Let’s put in a provision that the children of citizens don’t need to apply for citizenship. Seems reasonable right?

Now
>See? This Mexican shat out her crotch spawn over the imaginary line, give her citizenship and food stamps immediately
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>>538098654
dementia don goes to sleep and forgets
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>>538099678
that didnt answer my question.
is Trump american and therefore president becuase of birthright citizenship or not?
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>>538099678
I’m not leaving. Pack your bags and go back to Europe, timmy
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>american white women abort all of their would-be children
>mexican woman crosses the border and dumps a baby out of her hairy snatch into the concrete
>fully american
KWABOTY nation
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>>538099743
and im saying your framing and question doesn't matter, because Trump is White, and thus is allowed to do what he wants.

>>538099780
You dont have to leave, but you're not allowed to live here. We'll allow you to become fertilizer for the corn though.
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>>538099880
>Trump is White
Trump is the biggest fucking kike you ever voted into office
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>>538098456
I mean, the constitution is extremely explicit and abundantly clear about it: whoever is born in the United States is a citizen of the United States.
I can't imagine being more clear than this, there's no subtext, no exception, no weird phrasing; it's the simple and crystal clear to the point that not even the most complicated mental gymnastic would have been able to do something about it.
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>>538099678
White albinos are inferior, God runned out of paint and left them incomplete which makes them subhumans
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>>538099880
You won’t do shit. Go back to huffing paint in your podunk trailer, migger
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>>538100134
>runned out
i guess God ran out of braincells when he made spics, ran out of dignity too
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>>538099863
>all the white women getting abortions were from black guys
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>>538099715
>put in a provision that the children of citizens don’t need to apply for citizenship.
not why it was done dunce. It was because the status of the freed slaves was truly ambiguous. It never should applied to anyone but them.
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>literally the only good thing orange nigger was going to do
Thanks jews.
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>>538099743
wtf are on about retarded Kraut?
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>>538098968
Is civil rights act the most powerful thing to ever exist? it is literally unquestionable, almost like a god really
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>>538100094
Republicans hate both reading and the idea of the Constitution itself. Out of the entire document they only care about three components: “freedom of religion" as a shield against following laws on how to treat other people they don’t like, "freedom of speech" as a shield against following campaign finance laws they don’t like, and guns. Everything else makes their eyes bloodshot.
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>>538098456
Reminder that there is no political solution.
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>>538100394
Trump personally appointed 3 of these people in the Supreme Court. 2 of them voted against him
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>>538100094
It may have been crystal clear in 1868, but not so much in 2026. Only a handful of countries in the world have birthright citizenship, and virtually none of them are outside of the Americas. The U.S. is on the wrong side of history on this one.

For all the Hispanics celebrating this decision, remember that India alone has nearly as many people as North and South America combined, and our benevolent rulers will gladly replace you in a heartbeat when it suits them.
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>>538098456
This is a win for stolen land!
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>>538100459
The founding fathers stipulated that the children of foreign diplomats born on American soil are not citizens. Therefore, why are the children of illegal invading aliens citizens?
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>>538100459
>yap yap yap
shut teh fuck up spic.
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>>538100094
>there's no subtext, no exception
what is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" you retarded pasta nigger?
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>>538098834
>Plan B: make life hell for immigrants and their jewish advocates

I.C.E was alway s a Joke bunch of Faggots running around trying to be the SS of today.

What you ned are STREET JUDGES, this way they get DUE PROCESS BENCH TRIAL ON THE SPOT, this makes it LEGAL
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>>538100094
The letter of the law does seem to suggest that but let's be honest, it was written in a specific context for a specific purpose. To think the intent was for hundreds of millions of beaners to zerg rush the border and shit out kids is as bad faith as it gets. You're basically making a nation-destroying argument all on a technicality.
That being said, the issue is already too-far gone to be reversed and technicalities are what govern low-trust cultures, so it is what it is.
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>>538098968
>If you go to any third world country and have an issue to make a fuss about them having a shitty society, the USA will enforce the law against you at their request because of international laws

Let's not forget they swatted the Machine Gun Preacher for saving children in Africa from warlords, because a good guy with a gun is worse than a bad guy with a gun to nations.
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I love my tacos on a Tuesday.
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ANCHOR BABIES ARE NOW BACK ON THE MENU BOYS. TIME TO GO TO HAVE A PREGNANT WOMAN CARAVAN. WHOSE GONNA STOP THESE FUTURE AMERICANS?!
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>>538100778
>That being said, the issue is already too-far gone to be reversed
That's the great part, it's legitimately never too far gone to be reversed.
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>>538098456
>jew-controlled government can't revoke citizenship and deport alt-right
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>>538098456
Imagine all the pregnant Israelis and Russians that can get citizenship.
This is awesome!
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>>538098654
SCOTUS ruled Troons weren’t real and yall are fucked in the brain tho. So there’s that you faggot.
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>No mass deportations, fewer than most recent presidents
>No change to birthright citizenship
>Still issuing H1B visas
>Somehow giving money to both Israel and Iran
>Inflation outpacing Biden
>0 Congressional achievements beyond a BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
>Fags and trannies still marrying, adopting
>0 Epstein arrests
Yeah, I'm thinking they got what they voted for
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>>538100094
That’s not what it says at all + you aren’t American
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>>538099880
>Trump is White
His kids are Jewish. His grandkids are Jewish. His dad is buried in a Jewish cemetery.
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>>538101148
But he's BASED. He called Rosie O'Donell FAT! Haha!!! The fashwave edits! Thank God we aren't like those KEKED Euros!
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>>538098968
The country will collapse.
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>>538099715
>14th amendment, chud!
>2nd? Well... we can't let anybody have machine guns chud....
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It was an executive order. It was literally meant to do nothing more than feed red meat to the base. It kept the base excited by the possibility. This is the same thing as when Joe Biden pretended as if he had the ability to erase student loan debt. After it gets thrown out by the courts, no one really cares. It was always a cheap political stunt to keep people voting for their preferred partisan name brand. This is a nothing burger. So, here. Have a something burger to make up for it.
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>>538101260
Inshallah.
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>>538100094
Stay on your side of the wall
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>>538100778
>The letter of the law does seem to suggest that
it actually doesn't, and neither do the original contextual documents and statements made by the authors of the amendment. But this is a lawless society that just larps as lawful, and it's certainly immoral in any case. One simple question, how is the child of an illegal immigrant different than the child of an occupying army? They aren't.
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When tyranny becomes law
Rebellion becomes duty
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>>538101308
>equating student loan debt to the absolute destruction that is allowing invaders to shit out citizens
I understand the point you're making or at least trying to make concerning how the process was handled incorrectly, but that's still full fucking retard to compare the two.
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>>538101260
Tall-tales to make white nationalists not feel cucked.
If there was actual TND in New Orleans after Katrina, it would have been used as a political weapon against whitey. It would be discussed on CNN every day. There would be constant coverage of it in the NYT and WaPo. There would be national days of remembrance. It would be another "muh Tulsa Race Riot" or even an "American Holocaust."
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>>538098929
It's up to you now to keep it going.
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>>538098456
That's it, you're out kID
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>leftists: hahah awww what you want people torn apart from their family and have kids seperated and deported and not allow any immigration into this country becaaue ylu are white racist assholes fuck you white fuck white devil fucks white people ahh
>MAGA: illegal immigration is an issue because you have no record of who is entering (if they are criminals) so it would be good for them to go through legal channels so they get the benefits of legal citizenship and wont get taken advantage of by predatory employers, also maybe of they are citizens they would have more protection from the law instead of fearing it.
>Leftists: NO YOU WHITE RACIST FUCKS HATE OTHERE RACES BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE FUCK YOU WHITE FUCKS YOU LOST HAHAH YOU RACISTS HATE THIS I BET
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>>538100778
>le intent
Who gives a shit? They didn’t anticipate today’s weaponry but I can still own an automatic gun. If reversal of birthright was actually a popular idea among Americans then why don’t they just pass a law banning it? It doesn’t make any sense guessing what the founders want. Go by the letter on the page and if that doesn’t work in the current climate then simply amend it. That’s literally why there is the option to amend
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>>538100617
The founding fathers did not write the 14th Amendment
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>>538101736
they also believe the white house was built in 1776
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Hitler is the Minimum
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>>538100227
Still, you are subhuman
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>>538101148
I did.
Again the only people purporting MAGA and Trump to be insane bloodthirsty racists are leftists
He has openly never been that way ever and against that image.
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>>538100094
>there's no subtext, no exception, no weird phrasing
SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
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>>538101384
If you wrote down "dog" but say you wrote "cat", the only thing that is official is "dog"
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>>538101406
The trump administration made no attempt to do it the right way by going through the Congress. Similarly, the Biden administration didn't bother going through the Congress. The fact that they did it without going through the proper channels demonstrated that they were never serious about the policy to begin with. It was a dumb stunt. That was my point. It was always a waste of time to pin your hopes on something that was never going to happen in the way that the policy was pursued.

The substance of the policy was irrelevant to the point
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>>538100617
illegal aliens are not foreign diplomats, i.e., they do not represent their country in a diplomatic capacity, so they're not subject to that line of the amendment
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>>538101719
it has to be amended stupid fuck you can't just pass a law. Bottom line is our owners like it this way so it remains this way. They could stop it at the border if they wanted to but they clearly don't.
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>>538101719
They can't pass a law because the demography of the country has already been changed so much that the idea of a collective will has become incoherent and representative democracy is already unworkable at this point.
All you're doing is grave dancing in celebration that your subversive methods won. I guess a congratulations is in order. I don't think the prize you've won will be what you anticipated though.
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>>538101963
Then just amend it?
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>>538101925
Congress is ineffective as a political organ, everyone knows that, which is why you will see more and more reliance on the courts and EOs.
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>women votes
invalid
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>>538101719
Because they focus on the amendments and not the actual constitution.
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>>538102063
The prize is exactly what I want. Cry
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>>538098670
The US can’t remain world hegemon if the US population is majority goblino since goblinos have low intellect. There will be a crisis of competence as the US goblino population increases resulting in Thucydides Trap occurring.
There are two possible scenarios.
1. Thucydides Trap occurs and the USA is forced to wage a nuclear war against BRICS to keep it’s hegemony, this results in retaliatory nuclear strikes on the USA which destroys the cities where most goblinos in the USA live. In the event of a nuclear war the USA will nuke countries like Brazil and Mexico that aren’t even actively involved in the conflict as a contingency measure to make sure they don’t rise up in the power vacuum after the war.
2. Thucydides Trap occurs and the USA doesn’t wage a nuclear war. The USA loses its hegemony and USD is no longer the world reserve currency. The only thing keeping a heterogeneous society together is the currency. Economic collapse occurs which leads to civil war and balkanization. Water going to the American Southwest and northern Mexico is cut off during the civil war or after balkanization. Hominids can survive only three days without water.
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So when the 2A uprising and rebellion to save your nation? Cowards much? Americans are such pussies that makes us Leafs look like heroes. Imagine that. Enjoy the slow gruesome death of your "nation". 300M guns, can legally form militias, yet you do nothing.

Imagine Canadians, Alberta and Quebec with 2A.

Canada is in full acceleration mode at least. Even then, it looks like USA will collapse before Canada ironically.

Cliffs:
YOU
GOT
WHAT
YOU
DESERVE.

D
E
A
T
H

T
O

U
S
A

You could have prevented this. Your fathers could have prevented this. Your grandfathers could have prevented this. You reap what you sow.
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>>538098834
>surely, this time, after 67 decisions, policies and actions that benefitted them, THIS TIME trump will act agains the interests of his masters
Dirlewanger would have shot you on the spot because he would have correctly assumed you are mentally retarded.
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Why do white people make laws that don't benefit them?
Are they fucking stupid?
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Everyone knows if it doesn’t look like an American, it’s not an American.

Citizenship on paper doesn’t mean bloodline citizenship. Everyone knows this deep down inside.
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>>538100572
When the US became a country they were also the only one in the world doing a democratic republic like that. Who gives a shit what other countries do?
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>>538098456
Not yet. We still have the nuclear option, roach.
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>>538098456
winning this case depended on the supreme court not reading the constitution. it was always a long shot.
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>>538102378
>leaf
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Get fucked mutts
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>>538102361
Because those whites who do that are fake whites. They are jews wearing a mask.
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>>538098456
So who were the traitor judges who sided with the commies?
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>>538100450
boomers got 1-shotted by jew-owned TV telling them to feel guilty for the holocaust, making all anti-white racism praiseworthy and all self-defense of whites illegal
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>>538098456
ok guess we'll just kill you and your brown pets then
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>>538098456
lmao at that dumb loser that was posting here daily about this dumb nothingburger since last year

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH
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>>538098456
God won, All men are created Equal, Christ is king
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>>538098456
I wish I was born in the USA. Despite everything being an American beast being German.
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>>538102488
the nigger, the kike, the beaner, and the christ cuck with adopted niglets from africa
color me surprised
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>>538098456
Americucks won't do shit. As per usual.
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>>538102202
I don't think goblinnigger maximalism will improve your life in any way but time will tell.
>Cry
This is just impotent seething which is strange coming from a guy who just won supposedly
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>>538098456
The most entertaining thing about humanity is how it always tries to change the laws.
Very fucking jewish.
You try cheat what you cant change.
Its pathetic, and you will all realize it.
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>>538098803
>>538098670
>>538098654
>>538098456
It's white men who make life good for the common man. They make amazing games, tech, movies and things that bring joy to people who have hard lives. Once white men are gone, life for the average man and lowly people is going to be hell. There'll be nothing left to look forward to.
Unfortunately, the groups of people who hate us aren't capable of creating a good future. They want to destroy us and they actually aren't capable of creating a single decent movie even.
So I don't know exactly what they plan on doing once we're gone honestly, just look at these people. Bunch of lazy parasites stealing tax money off us because rich people need their votes, these worthless morons have zero actual power, they're vote cattle.
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>>538098670
Stacy belongs in Pedro’s strong arms
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>>538102441
Yeah I’m a leaf. A descendent of the original settlers. I’m not race mixed.
Full genealogy in hand that is passed generation to generation. Purebred authentic canadian. That’s who I am.
What are you?
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>>538102520
Do you have any idea how retarded you look saying that with that flag? You won’t do shit btw.
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>>538102651
White population has spread globally and will win in the end as its the only genes capable of maintaining a civilization. It will be messy shedding off those other genes
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>>538102651
Save your breath. These dumb brown animals don't understand complex concepts like quality of life.
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even the packed supreme court has migger fatigue
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>>538102635
You’re an idiot and there is no hope. Your thoughts are formed entirely but the insecurities of weak men. There is nothing I can do to make you see the truth. There is nothing left for you to do but mourn, seethe, and god willing kill yourself
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KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
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>>538102651
Remember that, it wont be long and you will be justified.
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>>538102856
It's obviously not packed, you dumb ape.
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>>538102892
Saaar are you ok?
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>>538100572
Cry more migger
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>>538102785
>purebreds authentic Canadian
Genuinely the funniest shit I’ve read in a minute. I don’t doubt it, it’s just funny you are proud of it. Unironically I would rather be brown.
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>>538102860
I'm doing alright. I reiterate you present as a massive seether which is strange since you are getting what you want.
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>>538103097
Oh good. I was worried for a moment you were bothered by the inevitability your children reproduce with browns
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A nig is nig even born in US
A chink is a chink even born in US
A jeet is a jeet even born in US
A jew is a jew even born in US
A britton is a britton even born in US
And so on…

They may be paper citizen but they are not American “per say” and anyone can tell by the looks etc
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>>538103208
>a leaf
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>>538103207
I know you think you're doing some mysterious 2deep4u thing but it just comes off as a little kid throwing a tantrum and flopping around pointlessly on the floor.
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>>538103005
At least I acknowledge who I am and I’m not trying to cosplay anothers identity.

You didn’t answer my question,
What are you?
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>>538102148
>Congress is ineffective as a political organ
This is true. It is, in fact, intentional.
>everyone knows that
Yes, and this is part of what's driving populism on both sides.
>why you will see more and more reliance on the courts and EOs.
Oh, I know this! This is really part of a larger strategy to get everyone fed up with the system so that they could then introduce a UN backed technocratic regime instead. Once the official US government collapses in a blitz of unprecedented social and political unrest, the UN will step in. It might not even be officially the blue helmets, but it will likely be some "American" emergency provisional government that takes over, like during COVID
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>>538101384
foreigners and aliens here both refer to diplomats and the children of diplomats.
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>>538103350
>2deep4u
This is why youre an idiot. I hold incredibly milquetoast thoughts on this so the reason you are confused is the same reason you are upset by the decision
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>>538103461
can you explain how there was an "emergency provisional government" during covid? you larpers truly are weird freaks
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My yogurt expires in 2 days. I hate India Niggers.
I hate jews. I hate you all. India Niggers driving around in luxury SUVs high as a kite fucking up everything they do because they can't read and aren't even conscious. Total Kike Death for bringing these useful fucking wastes of flesh here.
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>>538102439
And in countries which have jus sanguinis, there are rather complicated laws about who is and isn't a citizen and how parentage counts. You can't eliminate jus soli without actually having that ready to go, and the miggers didn't. Ignoring the constitutional issue, jus sanguinis just unworkable with a USSC decision alone. So it was prudent for the court to cockslap Trump and his merry band of miggers unless they actually had the details of jus sanguinis ironed out. Which they don't, and they won't before they lose at a minimum the House in midterms.
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>>538101522
This is the Algiers Point thing, IIRC.
It was investigated by some lefty news outfit and they found that while blacks were threatened, and shots were fired over their heads, there's no evidence of actual murders.
ofc, that may just mean people disposed of the trash and kept their mouths shut about it (unlike e.g. the McMichael idiots who shot that jogger)
Until someone gets Jesus and leads cops to the bodies, nothing is going to get prosecuted.
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>>538102439
>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
The interpretation of this is totally arbitrary these days. Back then (and now in most countries) an "illegal immigrant" wouldn't be totally subject to the jurisdiction of the country they decided to enter. Their "allegiance" would be still to their home country. But the arbitrariness to this issue is exactly what brought about Kentashi's statement of stealing a wallet in Japan as a foreigner makes you subject to the jurisdiction. But you obviously aren't totally subject, as tax law, other common law, etc. simply cannot be applied to you. But relying solely on criminal law to settle the issue of jurisdiction just shows how retarded these people are. If I were Clarence I would resign in protest. Nothing matters anymore after this. This ruling essentially codifies something that this nation was never intended to have. Its unironically over. We can only watch and see this play out.
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>>538103757
Very useful. Very useless. It's too early for this shit.
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>>538103542
The decision doesn't upset me, I didn't have any hopes pinned on this, and you don't confuse me, I have worked out a set of 3 possibilities about what you are and know it's one of them with certainty. The 2deep4u isn't isn't meant literally moron, it isn't because you're so complex, it's because virtually nothing you post is substantive.
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In the original argument, undesirable immigrants getting Birthright Citizenship WAS discussed. That is why a few Senators voted AGAINST it. But it passed with MAJORITY support. Most people today support Birthright Citizenship.
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>>538103616
Have you heard of the Federal COVID-19 Public Health Emergency (PHE) Declaration? Yeah, that state of emergency was essentially it. It was hidden in plain sight. But most people are too ill-informed to notice it.
>inb4 muh Republicans
>inb4 muh Democrats
Both parties participated. There is no effective different between the 2 political parties. They are a de facto uniparty
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Honestly, I am surprised that we actually came close to winning this case. I thought it would be a blowout 7-2 or 9-0 against us. I think it goes to show that there is an appetite to save this country in many different spheres. I just think it comes too late and too little to save us.

I think we needed to end immigration 10-20 years ago, and even if we stopped it 100% tomorrow, I am not sure it would have been soon enough to save the country. People need to realize that the war was lost 10-20 years ago, and we are playing pretend king with scraps.
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>>538100748

Our judicial benches are staffed like a Tel Aviv phone book, they'd never allow people actually enforce the law
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>>538103874
how does that make it a "provisional government?" do you know what the words you're using mean?
OPEN THE SCHOOLS
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>>538102651
What kind of "good people" would want to so blatantly ignore the words of their own constitution.
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Women should be expelled from politics
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>>538098456
I'm MAGA and this was objectively the correct decision with the way its currently written. I believe the correct path forward is likely mandatory pregnancy tests before entering the US. Should help at least with birth vacations from overseas.
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>>538102536
Lmao. Hope he kills himself
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It has clear to anyone paying attention that the ‘foreign army’ had no merit and that birthright citizen ship was ordained by the Founders. I am glad that the Supreme Court upheld the 14th!! Racists btfo
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>>538104018
The main issue with anchor babies is illegal immigration so if you're in a position to do mandatory pregnancy tests then why not just halt the migration at that point. You're building castles in the air.
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>>538103875
I think we're likely headed towards a solution through legislation, although Trump is running out of time because realistically Dems are taking the House easily this year. Trump is going to have to move quickly on everything now.
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False flag. He knew it would lead nowhere, and it would inconvenience his jewish masters.
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We'll just deported the parents :)
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>>538103848
>I’ve worked out a set of 3 possibilities
lmao. This is why no one can take you seriously
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>>538098456

A nation created by white-people, for White-People...

Is now a Nigger&Jew / Mongrel-Theist-Bigot catasrophe.

You should have read-the-handwriting when ZOG Pimped the White-House full of Nigger&Jew Miscgenists, and lit-it-up with Nigger&Jew usurpation of the "Rainbow".

Same-Thing with Empire-State-Building.

Its Mongrel-Theist-Bigot-Agenda All-The-Way?

Mongrel-Theist-Bigots ate-your-lunch.
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>>538104112
it would limit anchor babies from overseas and Muslim countries, which is a far bigger threat than Catholic Mexicans.
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>>538102385
A lot has changed in the past 250 years. In the coming decades, it will become clear that a nation’s control over its borders and ethnic makeup will be critical to its survival. The United States is already dead.
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>>538104145
>based mike johnson will overturn birthright citizenshp
lol
>>538104172
Did that come off as too high brow for you? Sorry. I didn't think it would but guess I overestimated.
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There should be 2 tiers of Americans at least.

True American: proven descent from settlers 1776 or before.
Paper Citizen: the others
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>>538098456
Yup we got the booby prize
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>>538104018
And there are a bunch of questions tgat would have to be settled by laws. At what point are the descendants of American citizens born and raised overseas no longer citizens, if ever. If someone naturalizes, how much of their family becomes citizens? Etc, etc. What the admin was proposing is completely unworkable.
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>>538102308
>Imagine Canadians, Alberta and Quebec with 2A.
But you don't have 2A.
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>>538099567
His grandfather became an American citizen in 1892 so Trump's dad was born in 1905 with American citizenship. Trump's mom became a citizen in 1942. So Trump was born in 1946 with American citizenship via jus sanguinis.

>>538099743
>is Trump american and therefore president becuase of birthright citizenship or not?
No, when Americans talk about birthright citizenship, they're referring to jus soli through the power of magic soil.
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>>538104219
You may personally dislike those type of immigrants more but the anchor baby thing (which is what birthright citizenship is about) has always been about illegal immigration from border crossings. People coming from overseas are 99% regulated immigrants on visas.
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based
send all white men to live again in heaven
while demons are born into shitskin hosts flooding earth

just like my fall of atlantis and again during ancient america tartaria

same nigger cycles
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>>538104241
"The United States is already dead."
+1
Dead-Men-Walking.

(((Supreme-Court))) just pulled-the-lever on YOUR execution.
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>>538103972
A provisional government is one that exists under some temporary emergency governing authority. We have had these periodically. In fact, the state of emergency that was declared after 9/11 is still in effect to this day.

I don't know why you're making such a big fucking deal about this. The government declares these emergencies periodically to force through policies that would otherwise be impossible because on Constitutional protections or widespread opposition. They often force through policies that are authoritarian in nature, but which happen to align perfectly with longstanding technocratic policy ambitions that are laid out by white papers in publications put out by the RAND corporation and other similar think tanks tied to military intelligence and the corporate world.
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>>538102651
Chris you're attempting to transpose simple logic and thinking onto retarded nigger monkeys and jews who ventilate each other over 20$ usd in someones wallet
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>>538098968
Or we can just kill them all with all the politicians that allowed this to happen since they are traitors to the american people
And the only punishment for a traitor is public hanging
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So it’s official that any third world scumbag can just take over America by illegally entering and fucking like rabbits, this country is officially doomed so where do we go from here? If the Supreme Court upholds magic dirt theory I don’t see how you can possibly have a future short of just taking control by force.
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>>538098670
La raza
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>>538100094
You're subject to your home nation you illiterate wop fuck
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If dishcloth head Ilhan Omar gives birth, don’t tell me what comes out is an American.
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>>538104441
You didn't do anything when niggers were burning the country down. You didn't even do anything when they stole the 2020 election.
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>>538104288
>high brow
Okay I see you’re baiting now that mb lmao
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>>538100545
Appointing ACN and her adopted miglets was the dumbest thing he's ever done and that includes the Iran war.
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>>538104492
Since she was a naturalized citizen, under jus sanguinis they would be citizens. Are you retarded?
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>>538104659
Citizen ok, but not American

Citizen means nothing anyway. It’s like saying “a habitant of”
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>>538104819
>Citizen means nothing anyway.
christ, i could tell you were retarded from the flag but that's a good one
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>>538102651
why must our prosperity always be framed through the lens of what is good for brown people?
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holy shit it’s so over
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who was the cuckservative justice that voted with the libtards
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>>538101962
Their citizens of their home country dumb dumb therefore subject to their jurisdiction like how Ukraine demands men come back and dje6
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>>538105005
ironically enough, it will be black citizens mostly affected by this in the long term. Mexican immigrants and their children will take the lower tier jobs and drain the low income benefits programs away from the black community.
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>>538104982
Roberts and Barrett are libtards. The court is left leaning. The reddit hysteria over the court being "far right" has always been bullshit.
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>>538100094
It doesn't say that lol. Fucking retard
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where's the all caps guy with the count down timer
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>>538105114
the court has a slight right lean imo but the supreme court always typically has a conservative lean because it interprets the laws as currently written. Progressives and liberals tend to want to change the way things currently are.
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>>538104420

Don't give the Mongrel-Theist-Bigots the enjoy of Torturing-&-Murdering you.

Make-Them-Pay.
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>>538105362
suicide watch or tahiti, one or the other
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>>538098968
timmy utterly online fucked by brahmin hindu earning $400k buying underage white prostitute from southern state of texas lmao. fuck whites and their whole dna line. Epstein did nothing wrong.
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>>538101522
>>538101260
I mean kind of. "With impunity"and muh vigilantism is a bit much but when the literal ninth Ward was taken over by a wannabe warlord, killed, then taken over by another wannabe warlord, it was the government that gave them a few days to fuck off while the insurance adjustors and private security stayed holed up until the situation stabilized. Then one day some helicopters appeared and the next day we were allowed to go out with our security guys. No announcement about surrender or arrests were made. Just the appearance of some military gunships and suddenly the problem resolved. (They got fed to the gators)
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That fucking faggot spamming this shit every day ruined it, you made the meme power turn against us.
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>>538101097
You lost
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>>538101308
>falling for wwe tricks
fuck and rape retarded mutts and their families like Epstein.
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>>538105789
you tell em manju
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>>538100450
Rights are considered God-given. For secular people, that basically means it can't be removed or changed by any power on Earth. You have them by just existing. Rights are the closest thing to God that people who don't believe in God have.
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>>538101308
this is sadly the truth (in effect, maybe not intention)
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>>538105789
I never fell for it. I knew from the beginning that this wasn't going to happen. I even warned these MAGA cheerleaders. All they would do is call me a doomer, black pilled, a demoralization kike, or a spic. I'm realistic. Most politics these days is nothing but tricks, stunts, and spectacle. It's bread and circuses.
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>>538102308
>Quebec with 2A.
100 Police in Quebec cannot even take down 1 incel with a musket wthout getting killed and killing an innocent... USA invade Canada already
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>>538101801
>tee hee I purposefully misunderstood a tweet, and I consider this a dunk. I'm a tranny leftist!
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This is what one of the guys that created the legislation said:

>This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers
And it also excluded injuns.

The american constitution literally means dog shit if the people doing the interpreting think so, as it was proven today.
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>>538106262
Can you explain the difference between foreigner and alien?
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>>538106182
He understood it exactly as it was written in English. Maybe Trump should not write his messages like a retard
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>>538100094
constitution is boomer slop and needs to be shredded
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foreigners and aliens here both refer to diplomats and the children of diplomats.

In the original argument, undesirable immigrants getting Birthright Citizenship WAS discussed. That is why a few Senators voted AGAINST it. But it passed with MAJORITY support. Most people today support Birthright Citizenship.
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>>538106262
If that’s what he meant, he should have written all that down in the actual amendment. But he didn’t, so the law stands as it is.
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>>538106262
I guess he should have put it in the amendment then. stupid fucking bitch.
we are a literalist in this cunt.
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>>538104492
>If dishcloth head Ilhan Omar gives birth, don’t tell me what comes out is an American.
I do not understand you white people,
I am in Canada and when I rent out my property to tennants, I just look at the name first and do not reply to anyone that has a Mexican, Nigger, Arabic, Jew, Paki/PooJeet name, it is very easy, also if they leave a voicemail I can hear the accent.

Why do you give these people any chance let them stay in the ghettos.

Same thing with Jobs, if you own a business, apply the same methods, Do not hire Jeets, Nigs, Arabs, and we know that Jews dont work so... Use an intermediary to do the intervers. This way you dont have to say " I did not hire this there Nayger because he is a Nigger that will rob the store and do nigger things to drive away business like being a NIGGER.

Now you have all white and hot asian staff that will not F-up.

You white people make me sick, you had segregation and you gave that up. Next time make a cotton picking machine, yes I know that Niggers are only capable of doing stupid jobs like picking cotton but it was not worth it in the end.
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>>538101962
They're both foreigners. Just because one is officially representing their country and one is unofficially representing their country, why does it make it ok for the one and not the other?
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>>538098456
LOL
So many will need to be killed
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>>538107099
Have you heard of Kim Wong Ark? Did you agree with it? Do you know the difference between foreigner and alien in the legal sense? Jurisdiction and diplomatic immunity? Do you know or agree with how the current law was and is applied? Can you point to it ever being applied in a different manner? How Trump would want it.
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>>538098654
Its an l for you too faggot
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>>538103479
Why do people make this retarded argument, when it doesn't even make sense? If he was referring to those as the same, he wouldn't have said "foreigners" and "foreign ministers" as separate entities, because a foreign ministry is foreign by definition. It's a list of people.
Those who are:
Foreigners,
Aliens,
Who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers...

You fucking retards make such bad faith arguements, or do not even understand the language you supposedly speak.
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>>538098456
EXCELLENT now the elimination of maga can go full speed ahead and achieve the projected target date
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Thanks to lincoln and the jewnion every shitskin on earth is an american citizen now.
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>>538104862
What are you?
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>>538098456
I'm still amazed that people are defending birthright citizenship, given the extreme security risks of it. It makes no sense, and I will never get how people do the mental gymnastics of "Obviously the founders INTENDED for mothers to just come in, shit out a baby and then return with the baby that now has dual citizenship". And it's not even a secret that China abuses USA's birthright citizenship.
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>>538107170
This is an admission that Trump is unable to pass the laws he wants, because Birthright Citizenship is massively popular. This is not a good sign for cultists that want to murder over his failures in office.
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Reminder that almost every single member of SCOTUS has dual Israeli citizenship.
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>>538098670
You know we're next once whites go extinct, right? The niggers need to be feed, and unfortunately we'll be the ones paying for their stamps
So no fucking victory, we're gonna be the good goys after the whites die out
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>>538107523
>Do you know the difference between foreigner and alien
Why do the children of LEGAL aliens who are here not qualify but the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO BROKE THE LAW do qualify ?
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>Supreme Court WILL hear case about Assault Weapons

GG JB Pritzker and other gun grabbing governors, this is going to likely be a 9-0 ruling against them.
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>>538107923
It's (person;class) or (person;status). This is explained in Kim Wong Ark. They both refer to one person in Kim Wong Ark, named Kim Wong Ark. It's the legal duality of a person. This is explained by the Supreme Court Justices. So, no, it is not a list of people. See Kim Wong Ark.
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>>538108038
Hey, as long as those Russian agents illegally influencing our elections, which have never been influenced and you're a schizo if you believe so, are coming here and shitting their sleeper cell babies out, then it's ok.
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>>538108038
That's not how that works at all.
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>>538098456
Wow, who couldve saw that coming? Muttmerica will always be the land for shitskins and niggers.
>>538098834
You wont do shit mutt.
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>>538108318
i would be very surprised if it isn't a 6-3 ruling. there are 3 diehard leftists who do not care about the law.
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>>538104862
You call me a "leaf," and I admit it, I am one, I'm Canadian. At least I'm someone. I am from the direct lineage of the founding people of Canada. I have a clean bloodline and a distinct nationality to be proud of.

But you, you're asked repeatedly, "What are you?" and you never answer. You're probably some kind of mixed-race nomad person searching for itself and hiding behind the American flag and lecturing others about who's who and spreading some nonsense about birthright citizenship. Poor you.

Ok, at best you are an American citizen. But that only means "a habitant of America" or "Living in America". This only gives you legal and political status. Nothing more. Your true self (lineage, blood, nationality) is not American and any true American can easily see it. Stop playing word games.

That's laughable. You know what? You don't even succeed in trying to make me angry.
On the contrary, you only push me to love who I am and to love my people even more.
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>>538108502
5-4 if you're lucky. Barett is an extreme wild card. Roberts is also a potential faggot.
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>>538098456
is there no hope for this country then?
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>>538108277
The children of diplomats are not subject to US jurisdiction. They are beyond the power of the courts. They have diplomatic immunity. This is by treaty. American diplomats and their children have murdered overseas and been immune to local laws.
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>>538108599
>are not subject to US jurisdiction
>They are beyond the power of the courts
WAIT. So the children of diplomats can murder someone and just go home without any consequences? Nigger that's nuts!
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>>538108502
nah in the past those 3 have sided with the conservatives on some topics, and this gun ruling will likely be another. There's not much wiggle room in the way its worded in the constitution.
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>>538100284
>>all the white women getting abortions were from black guys
Kek you wish. White women WANT half-orc spawn
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>>538104350
How was your breakfast this morning?
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>>538108574
Barett was a law professor, Roberts is a legal expert in many fields, yet you know more than them, not knowing the most basic of legal concepts.
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>>538100094
Primo bait. You got quite a few.
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>>538100376
The real problem is that the founders never bothered to define citizenship during the founding because of the slavery question.
They hoped the problem would just kind of solve itself.
Instead it led to a civil war as people argued about whether or not slaves were people, let alone citizens.
The post civil war amendments are all questionable legal anyway since they were added during reconstruction when the south was militarily occupied.
The southern states were effectively forced to ratify them at gunpoint.
This meant the republicans were able to make them as extreme as they wanted.
The result were broad, sweeping amendments with wide implications far beyond the original intent.
The 14th amendment was explicitly intended to grant citizenship to freed slaves and their descendants.
However, it was poorly worded because the people who jammed it through ignored any criticism.
I think the 14th amendment was a mistake for this reason and should be reformed, but unfortunately the SC is probably right on this one.
The amendment says what it says.
Its a bad amendment, but thats why its supposed to be really hard to make amendments.
And so long as one party continues to benefit from this, there is little chance of getting an amendment to fix it.
Unfortunately the only to get such an amendment would probably be for Republicans to find a way to abuse it for themselves too.
That means directly supporting MORE illegal immigration from people with right wing ideals, not ideal.
In any case, the more people brought in this way, the less likely they will be to support ending it.
This is a death spiral.
We have opened the door to people who arent from america and dont like america to come here and change america.
Its the classic democracy paradox.
Most democracies end when the people democratically vote to give power to a dictator.
This issue is a disease that will rot away the core of constitutional system, because our system just proved it lacks the ability to stop it.
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>>538108529
lmao i went into the real world to run errands. my families immigrated from france & eastern europe before canada was independent. i really don't give a shit about anything you say because you are mentally defective. btw i never called you a leaf, retard. when you look at the world, you see it as your delusions induce you to. you will never perceive the world as it truly is.
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>>538108781
>was a law professor
And she ignored not only the constitution, the bill of rights, but also every single thing that the founding fathers said concerning our country in favor of illegal shitskins to swarm our country like orks.
Roberts has also ignored centuries of history, text, and tradition in favor of appealing to leftists. We know why the 14th amendment was written. Niggers were just kind of here and had nowhere to go, so the burden of the White man once again provided for them. Now, here we are 150 years later and the burden of the White man has been abused by Chinese, Latinks, Africans, you name it, to invade or country, rape our women, murder us, pop out their insectoid spawn, and then declare they're one of us.

And you're here thinking you're playing a funny word game with me because you're a faggot kike.
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>>538104350
That's his point you fucking moron.

We made our government back down on covid restrictions without being able to arm ourselves and form militias. What the fuck is your excuse?
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>>538108908
This has several lies
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>>538108389
His was the child of two civilian parents in the nation on legal work visas, not illegal Chinese nationals or diplomats who snuck in and shat him out, and maybe stayed. It was still a retarded ruling, that could have been settled with 'be sure to get a form before you leave next time, so you can present it upon return to get back in'. That still doesn't change the fact that the way Howard wrote that statement doesn't make sense with people saying it's referring exclusively to those of an ambassador's family or foreign ministry, because those are foreign by definition. Diplomats nor their families are even considered "aliens" in the law, so how would "alien" even be referring to them, if Howard was only talking about diplomats?
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>>538109087
That is why Sen. Cowen voted against it, but it still passed. Undesirable immigration was debated, why do you guys lie?
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>>538109290
>why do you guys lie
The Nationality Act of 1790 was drafted specifically only for Whites you illiterate nigger. It is and I quote for "Free White persons":
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>>538101719
>why don’t they just pass a law banning it?
State and even federal laws do not supersede the constitution. It's precisely because overturning a constitutional amendment would require a constitutional convention or convention of states and would also entail their congresses all agree to do so. Easier said than done, especially when majority of the time those congresses can't even agree within their own ranks.
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>>538109225
That's not true. Stop lying. Read Kim Wong Ark. Clearly you have not read it. Kim Wong Ark was a foreigner, non-alien. That was the finding.
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>>538109391
prohibition (a constitutional amendment) was not overturned in either process you described. you don't understand american history or civics. cease your squawking.
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>>538109362
That law was superceded.
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>>538109516
It was only superseded in the mid 20th century by a jew. Text, history, and tradition. We have NO TEXT, NO HISTORY, and NO TRADITION of allowing illegal aliens to birth citizens. I hope this kicks off the civil war so faggots like you can fuck off forever.
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>>538108408
Right, not like there's bee reports and estimations, and concerns about it for several years. How silly of me! I guess your government and agencies just lied about it for shits and giggles!
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>>538101308
My wife had her student loans paid off under Biden.
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>>538106015
There's nothing wrong with considering rights inviolable, the problem is in determining what is and is not a right.
The right in america believes that we have rights FROM things, essentially that rights prevent the government from ever doing certain things.
For example, the second amendment is interpreted as meaning the government cannot prevent you from owning a firearm.
The left on the other hand interprets rights as the right TO something.
They see rights as things the government is required to provide.
This is what they mean when they talk about healthcare and housing as rights.
To draw a parallel, a leftist interpretation of the right to bear arms would then imply an obligation on the part of the government to supply every citizen with a gun.
By the same token, the right considers the right to housing or healthcare to be absurd because to them you already have these rights, nobody in the government is trying to ban housing or healthcare.
The reason the left is wrong and why I morally oppose them is because their interpretation mandates the government to supply these "rights".
However, the government has only the force of arms to enforce its will.
A government run healthcare system is one where medical professionals are forced by law to perform their work, i.e. with an implied gun to the back of their heads.
I believe this to deeply immoral and unacceptable and the ends do not justify the means.
One potential alternative would be for the government to create a public option through either subsidies or direct intervention, and thereby lower private sector prices through market competition.
Thats literally fascism though....
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Look at poltards being all for the unborn, but the immigrant is shit down on. Hypocrisy much?
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>>538101551
How retarted are you?
Does it hurt to be this stupid?
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>>538098834
Only burgers are deluded enough to think they could be any political solution. It's now or never for another 1776
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>>538109362
That's not what Trump argued. You have to go back to Dred Scott. Back before Plessy v. Ferguson.
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>>538109433
What's not true? That his parents were present in the U.S. legally? They were, they were not illegally in the nation. His case is specific about that, which is why it's a modern stretch to claim his ruling applies to illegals, as well.
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The Constitution is the worst form of government ever devised in human history and anyone that disagrees should be burned
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>>538109763
His parents were temporary visitors, subjects to the Emperor of China, having never renounced their allegiance to him, they returned to China.
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>>538108908
The founders were incompetent morons. Genuinely some of the most wreckless and evil men who ever lived. Everything that has gone wrong is their fault
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>>538109763
You haven't read his case. In the legal duality, they debated only his class. The only thing that was relevant was place of birth, not his parents allegiance to China.
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>>538102651
>So I don't know exactly what they plan on doing once we're gone honestly
Mostly just starving to death and killing each other.
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>>538109290
I hate you
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>>538110138
Was gypsy immigration debated? Was Chinese immigration debated? Yes or no? Trump says this was only for Blacks, that's not true.
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>>538102651
>these worthless morons have zero actual power, they're vote cattle.
The entire point of any republic or democracy is to farm votes. Worthless vermin will always be the cheapest, most controllable voters. We can't even imagine the scum that has been allowed to taint our gene pool over the last 150 years, not just foreigners but dysgenic whites with genes coding for for liberalism in their brains.
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>>538098456
Why is it okay for literally every European & Asian country to deny birthright citizenship but not the US? Why do we need to grant citizenship to anchor babies not not a single EU country has to?
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>>538100094
The real security issue are things like Chinese birth tourism, where the parents are in the US only for the birth, then raise the kid in China to be loyal to the CCP. Obviously, China loves this, because their own country and system is so shitty that they are constantly looking for ways to escape themselves even while lying to themselves. India and African and Middle Eastern countries also do this.

The original founders in the 1700s could not have imagined air travel and birth tourism, they only knew travel to be expensive and taking weeks/months to do. Pregnant women weren't getting on ships en masse just to try to shit out a kid on US soil just to get back on the ship. The founders were only at the stage of seeing a hot air balloon.
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>>538108260
Nope, Castizo futurism inbound.
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>>538109907
His parents had lawful permanent domiciled status, even more permanent than a temp worker, so I was wrong. That, however, doesn't mean this does, or should, apply to illegals.
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>>538110370
You could make new laws for those, like no tourist Visas to pregnant women. Easy fix.
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>>538108846
What is bait? I got to say what I think, and someone else probably read it. That's the real goal of replying to any thread. It may not change a mind, but like minds will know they aren't alone, which is a strength of online posting.
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>>538098456
What did ChadTheNigger say about it?
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>>538098456
china wins
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>>538110498
Yes, his parents rented a home. No, they did own property or have a greencard. They existed as temporary traders, the merchant exception, not US nationals or citizens. No right to return. None of this matters to his case.
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No, they did not own property or have a greencard.
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>>538110237
I hate you
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>>538100094
Except you’re 100% wrong. The constitution clearly states, in the language of the time, that a person must not be a citizen of another country or loyal to another government in order for their children to eligible for birthright citizenship. The men who wrote and passed the amendment discussed exactly that, specifically mentioned that native Americans who were born on U.S. soil were not citizens, and eventually a separate law was passed that did allow them to be citizens, proving that simply being born here is not enough to meet the requirements. This decision is a travesty and stab in the back from trumps retarded cunt pick.
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>>538111171
It seems you have no arguments.
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>>538108038
I hope China starts reaching out to disenfranchised White Americans. I’d gladly take actions for nothing if it meant the death of this jewish tyrannical government.

China, you have my number. I’ll fly out on my own cost to coordinate whatever domestic terrorism you need me to take. I don’t care what happens, just want to participate in this shit hole country’s destruction.
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>>538098670
>Be a brown Mexican man
>slept with scores of white Stacys that that hate their fathers
>married the hottest and richest white Stacy I could find
>be happy my parents illegally immigrated to the US
It’s good to be an American born Mexican, fellas
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>>538111492
That's not true, and not in line with precedent.
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>>538098456
looks like violence is the only way.
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>>538111541
all rightoids are like this. desperate for a manly foreign prince to save them from their paranoid delusions
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>>538111514
I hate you
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>>538109600
>have NO TEXT, NO HISTORY, and NO TRADITION of allowing illegal aliens to birth citizens.
Aside from the last 250 years
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>>538111808
Just stop lying.
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>>538110716
that the decision of the court will unlikely stand the test of time
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>>538110763
His case is still a shit ruling, because again, Howard specified "foreigners", "aliens" and those who were family of ambassadors or foreign ministries, because the latter two were not eligible for citizenship by their status, so they were not legally considered "aliens" for the purpose of naturalization, and were obviously foreign by definition. Again, he wouldn't have specified these as separate entities if he meant them as all the same. What sense would that even make?
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>>538109479
An entirely new amendment (21st) that required ratification in its own right, overturned the 18th. You have no idea what you're talking about, the 21st amendment had conventions.
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>>538098929
>>538101522
>>538108577
At this point, republican supporters seem a lot like doomsday theorists. They make a shocking prediction
>TWO MORE WEEKS UNTIL Q REINSTATES THE CONSTITUTION AND DEPOSES THE BOLSHEVIKS
Then, insist that you’re retarded if you don’t believe their BS. and then, they vanish into thin air for a year when the date comes and passes and their prediction turns out to be BS.

Then a year later they come back doing the same thing. Gradually I began to hate them.
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Genuinely just retarded decision but I expect nothing less of this failing country.
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>>538112036
Trump could have used a different argument, that Kim Wong Ark was incorrectly decided. The people here, they want to go back, way back before Blacks were even citizens. Those are different arguments.
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Stop trying to get honest anti-immigration policy from a corporate owned system. Immigration is in their interest.
Empower the worker and consumer first, only then can you maybe get honest anti-immigrant policy.
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>>538111682
It’s completely true, faggot

-Sen. Trumbull further added, “It cannot be said of any Indian who owes allegiance, partial allegiance if you please, to some other Government that he is ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.'” Sen. Trumbull further restates the goal of the language: “It is only those persons who come completely within our jurisdiction, who are subject to our laws, that we think of making citizens…”

-Framer of the Fourteenth Amendments, first section, John Bingham, said Sec 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes meant “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”

-Sen. Howard introduced the clause as excluding “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”
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>>538112305
Nowhere is that in the Constitution.
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>>538112222
I'm not talking about any of that, but the statement you made here >>538103479
This arguement has never made sense for the reasons I stated, and it's either made in bad faith or ignorance.
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>>538112439
>The constitution clearly states, in the language of the time, that a person must not be a citizen of another country or loyal to another government in order for their children to eligible for birthright citizenship.

If you have it, post it.
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>>538111798
Save? I don’t want salvation for my people. I want to aid in their death and throw the entire western world into a dark age that will give Han-Chinese the ability to freely enact cruelty that people thought are acts of barbarism left in the past. I want the CCP to harvest organs from the non-Chinese and use their brains as organic compute slaves.
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>>538112439
That's explained in Kim Wong Ark, the legal duality of a person. Kim Wong Ark is a foreigner, see Kim Wong Ark. The debate was the class or status.
(person, class)
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>>538098456
you lost, miga trannys
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>>538112411
>the men who literally wrote and passed the words in the constitution explaining what the words they wrote and passed mean, in no uncertain terms
>b-but they didnt write a paragraph worth of definition for every word in the text of the constitution, so obviously those words can mean whatever we want
You should be hanged
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>>538098456
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So when are we taxing all these newly born citizens? I think $5000 a year from the day they are born +90% of all income is sufficient.
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>>538112735
That undesirable immigrants could become citizens WAS debated and several of the writers voted NO because of it, yet the laws and amendments still passed with majority support.
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>>538112867
All of that paragraph only talks about those with DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY, and nobody else.
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>>538112987
>ESL doesn't understand commas
KEK
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>>538112907
You’re a liar and a retard. What was discussed was race.

“During the debates of the Fourteenth Amendment’s citizenship clause, both its primary framers, Sen. Jacob Howard and Sen. Lyman Trumbull, listened to concerns of including such persons as Chinese, Mongolians, and Gypsies to citizenship. Additionally, Sen. Fessenden (co-chairman of the Reconstruction Committee) raised the question of persons born of parents from abroad temporarily in this country – an issue he would not have raised if Congress were merely reaffirming the common law doctrine – and, of course, the question of Indians.

A common mischaracterization of the debates says Senators Trumbull, Cowan, and Conness suggested both the Civil Rights Bill and the Fourteenth Amendment would make children born to Chinese or Mongolian parents citizens regardless of the condition of the parents. However, this is an erroneous conclusion because they were discussing concerns over whether the “race” of the parents could play a role. They were not suggesting that the locality of birth alone was to be the sole requirement of citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment. Additionally, this discussion appeared before the chief authors, Senators Lyman and Howard, provided the proper intended operation of the language.

Sen. Trumbull attempted to assure Senators that Indians were not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. Sen. Johnson argued that Sen. Trumbull was in error regarding the Indian’s not being under the jurisdiction of the United States. This must have raised concerns with Howard because he strongly made it known that he had no intention whatsoever to confer citizenship upon the Indians under his amendment, no matter if born within or outside of their tribal lands.”
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(foreigners, aliens) those who have diplomatic immunity, BUT WILL INCLUDE EVERY OTHER CLASS OF PERSONS
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>>538113091
This is explained in Kim Wong Ark the legal duality of a (single) person. (person, class) It is explained by the Supreme Court Justices.
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>>538112483
You know what I'm saying is right, and the "interpretation" that ignores his statement or tries to apply some bullshit "he only meant the families of ambassadors and foreign ministers" is bullshit. Again, ambassadors and foreign ministers are foreign by definition, and not eligible for naturalization, so there would be no reason to specify "foreigners" and "aliens" as separate entities in his statement, if he akshuslly meant it only applied to the families of ambassadors and foreign ministers. This is why you people always switch your arguments between letter of the law and spirit of the law when it suits you.
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>>538098456
You now need a foreign medical services tax... To pay for welfare.
Anyone supplying medical services to a non US citizen within the US gets taxed $Big.
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foreigners, aliens
non-foreigners, aliens
foreigners, non-aliens
non-foreigners, non aliens
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>>538113352
You are wasting your time. Move on.
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>>538113352
It's (person, class) or legal status. Kim Wong Ark was a foreigner, the question was his Class or legal status. This was decided in Kim Wong Ark.
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>>538113292
No, Kim Wong Ark only ruled on permanent legal resident, it did not rule on Indians or 'guests' to US.
>Still an ESL that does not understand basic English.
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>>538113148
>include every other class of persons
This means people applying to be naturalized are covered, it doesn't mean a visa worker's kid is automatically an American citizen. They worded it like this explicitly to exclude foreign tourist workers, nomads passing through and also indian tribes who had autonomous nations in their own right.
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>>538113566
no, read it. You haven't even read it.



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