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How the fuck is this thing real?
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>>538111425
Does it matter?
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>>538111425
Isn't strictly a theoretically smbh? We can only see so much, theories for everything we can't see
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>>538111425
Space is fake and gay
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The heavens declare the glory of God
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>believing that (((space))) is real in 2026 and that it isn’t just a huge Jewish money laundering scheme
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>>538111496
Heh.
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>>538111743
Redpill me on space. Why is it fake and gay?
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>>538111425
The prevailing idea in oblate spheroid earth theory is that there is a supermassive black hole just below the earth which is pulling it into a pancake shape

Black holes are likely to reveal the answer as to why the earth is not a sphere, because black holes themselves are oblate spheroids just like earth
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>>538111425
Ive been broken by the internet, all i see is goatse
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>>538111425
Aren't they usually at the centre of galaxies that have significantly higher densities of mass?
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>>538111919
Wat, we arent a sphere cos a chunk of earth is floating just above us acting as our moon.
We still havent gotten back into spherical yet as not enough time has passed
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>>538111496
Nice
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>>538111425
The universe is far grander than your tiny mind. God's abilities aren't limited to your understanding of things.
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>>538111425
thats not even TON618
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>>538111425
Space is a big place bro
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>>538111425
It isn’t. Have you ever seen it? You’re just taking the word of the some jewish “scientist” at face value
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>equations don't match
>can it be that we're wrong? no, there's a black hole there with nearly infinite gravity. just keep adding mass to the black hole until the equations line up
>but sir none of this works
>uuuuuh well there's also dark matter everywhere in the universe, we just can't see or detect it in anyway. there. science is fixed.
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>>538111425
It literally is not real.

Glad I could help.
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I've got two oblate spheroids.
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>>538111425
Why didn't you post Sagitarrius A* instead? It's a certainty that everything humans have ever touched and will ever do will be compressed into that single, timeless point along with everything else in the milky way galaxy until the end of the time. I hope it hurts.
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>>538112300
>can it be that we're wrong?
people have considered that extensively and have come up with nothing better that fits
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>>538111496
I see what you did there.
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>>538112047
Well that's not what the leading zeto-oblate planologists believe. They think supermassive black holes might be squishing certain planets, which explains why the earth is flat.
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>>538111425
It's real and it's the final black pill how much fucking nothing we are compared to all of it.
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>>538112428
It could be, but we also have geological evidence that the moon was part of earth..
So they might be right, but probably not.
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>>538111743
So how the fuck does this world work if it is flat, the planets are timed to perfection and the stars likewise.
You daft flat earth twats tell us that the "earth" is surrounde by a fuckin ice wall barrier presumably standing on a rock land base, how the fuck is that band of ice kept cold if surrounded by circulating relatively warm fuckin water, I suppose you will tell me there is a cooling refrigeration system below that band of ice to maintain that fuckin wall of ice, FFS explain.
It is fuckin madness, exfuckinplain?
It is easier to believe the universe.
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>>538112522
Maybe the black hole caused a chunk of the earth to break off and become the moon
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>>538112502
>final black pill
>iseewhatyoudidthere
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>>538112583
Maybe! Might have another chunk fly off soon, hope its india
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>>538111919
The cat told you this right?
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how is anything real?

There are many curiosities to relish across the universe
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Simple: it isn't
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>>538111496
Medium KEK.
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We are so small...
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>>538111743
>yes goyim, jews are so powerful the entirety of physics and space is their fake creation
nah
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>>538112300
Yeah its still a work in progress.
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>>538112752
Really? That image fits in the palm of my hand and I can hold the concept of all of that in my small head pretty easily.
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>>538111425
>picture, not even phot
>real
author depiction, you faggots are indoctrinated by not having photos from judging cases, just faggot drawings
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>>538111425

i dont think any of its real
just made up by 'scientists' like other stuff
remember global cooling?
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It's flat Jack
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>>538111496
No
>>538111591
Yes
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Black holes are doors. If one does not have the key, it's security system will destroy you. Inside is locked away technology. Source? Just trust me...
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>>538112551
The Earth isn’t flat, but space is fake
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>only 64kb of memory
>16 bit registers
>can't run vidya at 8K 120fps
Your lack of imagination does not define the limits of what is possible in the universe. You are a pigeon looking at a formula 1 engine.
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>>538112681
That black hole can kick your ass. Pretty sure Jupiter can so also
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>>538112367
>until the end of the time
It will take only googol of years for last supermassive black holes to evaporate.
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>oblate spheroid earth theory
>leading zeto-oblate planologists
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>>538111425
That's probably showing the event horizon, which is where gravitational acceleration exceeds the speed of light. It's not the actual radius of the object. Many argue that black holes are a singularity, meaning the radius is zero.
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>>538112984
Stop being a silly boy and grow up.
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>>538112752
Make one more strip showing the largest black hole smaller size compared to your mum's ass
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>>538112300
Black holes have nothing to do with equations not lining up. In fact the existence of black holes was theorized from equations before more observable evidence of them was ever discovered.
Other effects of them, like accretion disks, were also predicted before observable evidence.
It's true we cannot 100% verify they exist, but the evidence is very strong. If anyone has a better explanation for all the phenomena we currently attribute to black holes, I haven't seen it.
Now dark energy and dark matter are a real problem and are more like things we can't explain. But that's the thing, no one can explain them. Most scientists would agree they're some kind of placeholder and essentially correcting for errors they can't explain but what else are they supposed to do? Not correct for observable errors?
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>>538111919
>spheroid
Found my new slur for fatties.
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>>538111425
the funny thing is, most matter in the universe is not in the stuff we can see, but in "dark" matter/energy that we can't see. we can only measure it indirectly based on observations of many things, such as how quickly galaxies rotate vs. how quickly they -should- rotate if we account for just the matter we can observe in them. it is all quite fascinating and shows how little we understand it all.
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>>538111425
hungry.
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>>538111425
This universe is extremely gay and poorly designed. Decay, dark matter, black holes, speed of light limit, entropy, seriously wtf? Who designed this?
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>>538111425
A black hole is not really a literal hole, and it's not a physical object. A black hole is a region of space.
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a huge defined, not infinite, mass acumulated there. must have taken along time
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>>538111425
That's the old conclusion. Nowadays, NGC 1277 is known as a Relic Galaxy that has no Dark Matter.
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>>538112502
Final black pill is,
You're here paying taxes to pedophiles.
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>>538113239
It’s fake and it’s gay, Anon. Every year you hear about some new space shit because (((new data suggests))) or (((scientists say))) bullshit. It’s all a big grift. Jews figured out a long time ago that you can get people, and even entire nations to spend a gorillion goybux on “NEW BLACK HOLE IMAGE” that looks like a Photoshopped donut. I wouldn’t be surprised if the new (((space shit))) images that come out are 100% AI slop.

SpaceX and Blue Origin can barely manage a glorified carnival ride into the Earth’s upper atmosphere and you mean to tell me that we have all of these “HIGH TECH CUTTING EDGE” images of black holes and shit? lmao come the fuck on
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>>538113930
Cosmological natural selection might have "designed" the universe. So just like a creature evolved via natural selection, it has some quirks.
There's some evidence we're inside a black holes and other universes exist in black holes. Such a nested universe that can self propagate will be more common than a barren universe. The cosmological constant in our universe looks like it's perfectly tuned for creating lots of black holes.
So the purpose of the universe might be to create black holes which contain other universes.
On the top level of the multiverse it is probably all infinite chaos. But the math of having universes nested inside singularity points similar to black holes would still work.
It's singularities all the way down.
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Not understanding something or not believing in it doesn't make it fake.
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>>538111901
Was learning about astronomy part of your plan?
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>>538111425
it's not nice to call your mum 'thing' anon
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>>538111425
>we know the exact size of an object we can't even see billions of light years away based on a ladder of insanely shaky indirect measuring methods which has been revised 1000 times in the last 10 years because it compounds errors exponentially with each corresponding step

Sure thing bud. Whatever you say. This thing gets proven completely wrong every 5 years like clockwork and the entire thing needs to be redone. Taking any of this shit at face value puts you squarely in the reddit midwit tier of science believer.
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>>538111425
everything is a black hole. if you fill our galaxy with regular air, it becomes a black hole of the size of our galaxy.
now, imagine a universe sized black hole, how much matter would have to be in it to exist? as it turns out, as much matter as we can see in our universe. if you want to know what it's like inside a black hole, look around
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>>538111425
It's not. Like "earth-like exoplanets," it's just bullshit made up to explain why a widely held but physically impossible theory isn't wrong
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>>538114549
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE I'M TRAPPED INSIDE HELEN HUNTS ANUS
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>>538111425
you see son, when an absolutely massive celestial object, (imagine you mom for scale) and the speed of light love eachother very much...
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>>538114549
I don't really understand when people say this.
A black hole has a massive amount of mass compressed, how would our universe be a black hole with the same size if our universe is not compressed?
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Space is real.
America went to the moon.
We will colonise Mars within a decade.
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>>538115793
A black hole is simply mass compressed because it cannot resist other forces keeping matter what it is, and collapses gravitationally.

You have to assume everywhere behaves exactly just like our universe to assume black holes are caused by gravitational collapses in other universes, et cetera.

And in case you think parallel universes are bullshit, think again and look at a Penrose diagram. Parallel universes are a simple consequence of black holes and spacetime existing.
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>>538115969
>>538116020
>>538116054
>>538116087
I wish I could be on the Moon.
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>>538111425
it houses another universe inside, just like ours

our universe is inside of a giant black hole, housed by an upper (higher ?) universe

that is why our universe is constantly expanding and the space between objects enlarges faster than light, its the black hole that is housing us stealing outside matter in increasing amounts and converting it into dark matter and injecting it inside
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>>538111425
I think eventually all mass will be swallowed by black holes who merge into a giga black hole, which will explode in another big bang ad infinitum
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>>538116372
Everything in the local group will merge into one black hole before it can radiate away because Hawking radiation will take 10^100 years for the largest black holes.
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>>538111425
It's just a big blob that changes nothing about earth. Why care? The circumcision lobby is actively mutilating infants for kosher reasons.
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I believe black holes to be logical anomalies in our reality that can't be reconciled. Just like how we find those quirks or oddities in things like math that can't be cleanly solved, so too is our reality. It just screams "glitch"

I don't think it can be figured out. It's the fundamentals of our reality breaking in some areas. Like trying to comprehend a new color, some things simply can't be understood. I think it reinforces the simulation theory. Such a complex system designed by an intelligent being is bound to reach some kind of ceiling. Some type of programming that just can't be done cleanly. Maybe it's a hack method to solving something. Required to keep the physics system working how it is. A blanket dev function that's essentially invisible.
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>>538116372
you should think farther in time, the black holes themselves are radiating energy and matter, slowly but surely, so if they arent feeding, they are getting smaller. if you go in time far enough, all black holes will be evaporated.

NOW, considering that our own universe is sitting inside a black hole too, it will also evaporate, and this also implies that there are multiple different universes sitting inside different black holes sitting inside different universes.
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>>538111425
we wuz starz n shit
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>>538116912
>I think it reinforces the simulation theory. Such a complex system designed by an intelligent being is bound to reach some kind of ceiling. Some type of programming that just can't be done cleanly. Maybe it's a hack method to solving something. Required to keep the physics system working how it is. A blanket dev function that's essentially invisible.
High IQ observation
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>>538112176
>TON618
>look inside
>weighs more than 618 tons
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>>538111919

Where did this information come from?
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>>538111425
It’s not. Black holes are not what (((they))) say they are
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>>538118242
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>>538111425
Space is fake. The whole, muh air, and, muh pressure. I'm determined to build a balloon to take me past the outer edge into "space" and prove there is air and we won't "explode" when outside the earth's sphere.
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>>538111425
Space is fake and gay, anon
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>>538111425
I'd stick muh dick right in dat shit.
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>>538111919
>Black holes are likely to reveal
Just STFU already.
Somehow all of the matter that became the Universe was infinitely compressed, prior to the Big Bang, but was NOT a Black Hole.

Enough of the Density / Supermass determines the nature of things nonsense.

It clearly does not, and Gravity as a "Force" is inconsistent bullshit.
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>>538112752
Who took that picture?
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>>538111743
>>538112765
space was invented by vatican babylon, they own the biggest telescopes, one is named lucifer.
big bang was also invented by a catholic.
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>>538111496
Kekd internally
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>>538111743
Everything makes sense on the round Earth model.
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>>538111425
Is it?
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>>538119020
that's called incest
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>>538111591
Space isn't fake, NASA is.
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>>538119858
yeah, it's the black hole that is at the center of the NG 1277 galaxy
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>>538111425
It's not.
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>>538111496
jej
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>>538111743
What do flat earth and snuff films have in common, glownigger?
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>>538112407
Because the underlying flawed assumption is that the system is closed so s0ientists add more and more fiat dark energy and dark matter to the physics model until it no longer behaves like a closed system while still pretending that it is.
Maxwell's demon may be a scam, but they've managed to convince midwits he exists indirectly.
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>>538111425
Things get weird when youre being sucked into a black hole
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>>538111425
I’ll stick my dick in it
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>>538111425
Because the universe is really big and contains all kinds of weird stuff.
The end.
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>>538120076
That's gay
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>>538120150
You are gay. I am cool
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>>538114496
>the science changes
How many clot shots did you take, anyway?
Guess what, the science changed.
It now centers around profiting off your slow drawn out death, instead of your health.
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>>538111743
this
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>>538115793
You wouldn't know it's compressed of you're inside it. Remember that hole relativity, matter is a particle and a wave thing? It has to do with that.
Vernor Vinge writes a really good sci-fi series about it but only as it relates to the speed of light.
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My question to you all is, if the answer came, would you heed it, or would you ignore it?
Last time someone came and tried to help, you crucified the motherfucker.
Will you learn your lessons?
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>>538116028
And the entire definition of matter as at know it is particles resisting compression from one extent to the next.
Schrodingers cat: you can't truly observe the experiment if you're inside it.
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https://sizeofworldse.ytmnd.com/
https://atinyglimpseoriginal.ytmnd.com/
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>>538111743
>science isn't real because i'm a dumb jeet
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>>538116054
Now play it at 2x speed.
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>>538111425
>how is it real?
it isnt. moron scientists dont understand what space, time or its curvature is. its a mere misrepresentation of language that the black jew physicists cant understand. because its not their own language and never was, the subhuman immigrants can never interpret it correctly.
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>>538111496
Carlos come here I'm gonna whack you.
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>>538111743
You can buy a telescope for fifty euros you corn fed amerishart nigger. Anti-intellectualism is embarrassing.
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>>538120872
That's a jew, don't mistake it for anything else.
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>>538118559
There is a much simpler test you can perform to prove that air pressure exists. Go to the ocean, buy a sealed bag. A bag of chips will do just fine. Drive up into the mountains and observe how bloated the bag has become from the change in elevation. This is because of the difference in air pressure.

This test will take most of a single day, and will put your doubt to rest.
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>>538115793
>A black hole has a massive amount of mass compressed
it really isn't tho. while it is true that everything becomes a black hole if compressed, there are different cases. a regular black hole is a few kilometers across and has the mass of several suns. but there are bigger ones, and with size the volume increases by ^3 while the mass does not. so the bigger the black hole, the less dense it is. there is a supermassive black hole that is so large that its volume/mass ratio means it is as thin as air. it's not about compression of matter as much as you think.
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>>538111425
Singularities aren't real. The notion that you can fit virtually infinite matter into an infinitely vanishing volume (effectively 0) and have infinity density is retarded.

Black holes are just neutron stars that have their view blocked by opaque matter orbiting them.
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>>538112752
Still not as big as the hebrew hippo fat fuck randy fine.
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>>538111496
Yes, we really can't make light of this.
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>>538111425
It consumed a lot of matter and got big. What's not to understand?
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>>538111425
you wouldnt be able to move inside a black hole or even live. think for a moment.
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everything gets pulled into the black hole and gets condensed into slime. then were slime and also humans. maybe we dont understand this thing correctly and it doesnt even look like we think it looks.

maybe its 4 or 5 dimensional. how would we know.
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>>538122330
We don't know the size of a proton. We know the size of the field projected by a proton. We know how much space that takes up and how much force it puts out. With enough gravity you can pull two protons closer together than they would be even in an atom. That's the premise of a singularity. Matter squeezed so tight it's on a scale we can't comprehend yet and is seemingly infinitely small.
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were slime in the 4 and 5 dimension in this thing, the black hole is not a black hole but a polytope in the 4 and 5 dimension.

this is our chicken coup.
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were slime because we got condensed so hard but our souls still exist off course and now theyre here so we can lead happy chicken lifes.
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>>538111591
Well poisoning glow nigger. Black holes are fake, space is very real. Study more
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theres a shadow connected to jewish people and for you theres fishlike thingies coming from the stone out of the church and they suck on you, but you cant see them.
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>>538111425
I blew it up.
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they dont come for me because they see the shadow and fear him.
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>>538122222
Wasted
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>>538115793
I hate fucking Beecham self hating, anti white cuck, he's smart tho.
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>>538111425
The universe is a really really really really big and scary place.
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this is why youre the ychtus man. the fish. youre fish food.
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why are they wearing the ychtus hat. you have them on your literal head.
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youre blind but you dont know this. i can see so much because im a demon, im sorry my dears.
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i dont have the fish on my head, i have the shadow on my back. were here to create god and you wont stand in the way.
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>>538123337
>>538123468
>>538123597
>>538123661
>>538123873
You're deep in a psychosis Schwuler, you need to stop smoking weed and get some sleep.
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ITT: /pol/ confirms it has a (barely) primary school level understanding of the orders of magnitude concept.
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>>538116054
>>538116020
why did they bring this fucking thing they didn't even go any where with it. amerimutts were just like "WE NEED CARS ON THE MOON"
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>>538122955
>That's the premise of a singularity
No, what you're describing isn't a singularity, General relativity predicts an actual mathematical singularity, not "seemingly" infinitely small but actually so.
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>>538124413
>why did they bring this fucking thing they didn't even go any where with it. amerimutts were just like "WE NEED CARS ON THE MOON"
They needed to do a few donuts for the 1969 livestream.
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you were born in this to work to pay taxes to be replaced in your own country
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>>538112407
yea, people actually have come up with a better theory. One that actually predicts what they keep finding the more they look around, and doesn't require endless revisions to add in magical shit like black holes, dark energy and other assorted nonsense.

but since normalfags normalfag, who the fuck cares if you understand or know anything. I've come to the same conclusion jews have on you filthy subhuman goy. Its pointless trying to explain shit when your all idiots who believe something purely because 'authority' tells you to.

Its fucking settled proven science that explains utterly everything and we use it every day in our direct living lives. And still idiots believe jewish grifters and their good goy servants.
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>>538111425
I LOVE SCIENCE
kek,
space only exists in your imagination or on a screen, it doesn't exist as a real place in the sky
the earth is not an oblate planetoid revolving around it self and around the sun and around the galaxy and around the universe at over 1,000,000 miles per hour with trillions of light years and trillions of other planetoids, stars, blackholes and what not.
all of that to keep you in your 7 continents farm and restrict you from exploring earth in whole.
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>>538113462
black holes are not real tho. they were created exactly because magic math demanded they are real or else their formula's wouldn't work for a gravity centrist universe. and jews demand a beginning to correlate to their religion or you don't get money.
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>>538115793
We're probably just experiencing a focused point amidst all the information at it's perimeter. To be honest, at a certain point of observation everything breaks down into impossibility.
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>>538116912
I like this explanation
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>>538122716
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>>538111425
Because there is a cartoon of it anon.
Cartoons are scientific evidence.
Don't you know about science you backwater incel.
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>>538125095
So you're denying the greatness of God? You limit his power to only creating this rock and everything on it? We are nothing more than the smallest of Gods creations. You're a heathen retard.
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>>538111743
Yet it's the (((Tanakh))) that says Earth is flat and stars are painted on the filament.
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>>538125523
He's fallen for the science vs religion meme scheme jews use to divide midwits
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>>538111425
God designed this universe to make your brain assplode.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h4N1vTGOGOo
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>>538125114
Does it hurt being this stupid
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>>538124979
Any system that requires no revisions is dogma
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>>538111425
Black holes get big because Schwarzschild radius is linear with mass but their volume is cubic. So their density is proportional with inverse of square mass. That means large black holes have lower density than air. A black hole the size of the observable universe would have less mass than is in the observable universe.

Think of it like this. If you scale up a human by factor 2, that human will weigh 2 x 2 x 2 = 8 times more. But if you scale up a black hole by factor 2, it will weigh 2 times more. This is why black holes can get so big.
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>>538126092
any theory that cannot predict outcomes is not a theory, its theology.
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>>538112428
>zeto-oblate planologists
what
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>>538111425
It isn't
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>>538113663
>most matter in the universe is not in the stuff we can see, but in "dark" matter/energy that we can't see
jewish BS/cope
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>>538111425
its not, black holes dont exist.
its a plasmoid.
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>>538127393
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#Observational_evidence
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>>538127503
>our theory failed but as a cope we'll say there's "dark matter" out there
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>>538112502
Black holes may be huge but they don’t compose symphonies or build cathedrals or write odes to the gods
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>>538127503
there is no dark matter, jews made it up to explain their failing big bang cosmology model that has been failing for 40+ years.
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>>538111425
>NG
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>>538124979
>people actually have come up with a better theory.
Such as?
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>>538111496
this guy physics
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>>538127746
see >>538127472
plasma cosmology/Electric Universe theory already explains everything.
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>>538111425
Magic
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>>538125523
fuck you and fuck dog, i don't believe in her
regardless of that, the abrahamic dog doesn't get his greatness from his creation, he should be great just alone lol
your belief system is limiting dog by making him only great if he creates certain things
re-view your belief, and believe that he is great regardless of space, ball, flat etc
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>>538111425
its not
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>>538116020
I love that they bodged together a dust-flap repair for the front wheel from duct tape spare maps for Apollo 17
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>>538111425
almost as big as your mums butthole lmao

Think about the observable universe though, what is not mentioned enough times, is that the Sun is 8 light minutes away - meaning what we see here on Earth, what currently the Sun is doing, it has done it 8 minutes ago.
By this logic, images that show millions of stars and galaxies BUT stating that they are x-thousand light years away or more, means that what we see today is something that the given object was doing in BC times. By today it might be in an altogether different state, though a thousand years is nothing for planetary objects and events.
However there are observed stars billions of lightyears away. Today they might not even exist, it's just their light reaching us.
A black hole millions and billions of lightyears away is a lot wider today.

not wider than your moms asshole though
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>>538127790
that's what flat earthers say too
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>>538128840
mainstream big bang jew cosmology is closer to flat earth nonsense because its also build on retarded assumptions from dumbfuck jews.
Plasma Cosmology/Electric Universe is build on actual science and observable empirical evidence.



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