Can anybody LOGICALLY explain why children born to parents here illegally have a right to US citizenship?
No
>>538113227Because Donald Trump nominated a bunch of liberal retards to the Supreme Court, including a coal burner with multiple black children.
>>53811322714th Amendment, sweaty. Don't like it? You can always immigrate somewhere else.
Miggers would rip up and burn the constitution if they could. Fuck em
No. Jews and women are evil, simple as.
>>538113227No. Everyone who weasels around it is a traitor, simple as.
Because otherwise the entire concept of universal suffrage, voting, does not meaningfully exist. Over half of America immigrated here since 1865 when the 14th amendment was ratified. Taking away Birthright Citizenship and FORCING you to PROVE your innocence to vote means most people won't do it and, if their citizenship is ever challenged in any way, most lawful American Citizens would just yield their citizenship immiedately to stay out of legal trouble. This can be easily gamed and exploited by powerful men and the jews to destroy American society from wtihin.This should sound familiar as it is EXACTLY how the Roman Republic died. In it's later stages, Roman men could no longer afford Citizenship or the legal costs associated with maintaining and proving it. Roman men willingly, voluntarily sold themselves into slavery than deal with the burdens of official state sponsored Citizenship. And this then destroyed the state as more and more men simply chose not to participate, leaving the state without competent workers, as power shifted to individual men who ruled like and then became hereditary kings. France had this legal system until 1782, Italy until 1885 and the UK maintains it which is why England is a massive shithole.
>>538113410"Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof": This means a person must owe legal allegiance to the U.S. and be subject to its laws. Right there disqualifies any non-Americans. Also if you want to look at what the founding father said. >Certainly, gentlemen cannot contend that an Indian belonging to a tribe, although born within the limits of a State, is subject to the full and complete jurisdiction of the United States.>Senator Jacob Howard May 30th 1866This basically means, just because American Indians were born in America, didn't make them American citizens. Because they have their own allegiances to their own nation. Therefore if someone that has allegiances to their own nation has a child here, it means they're not an American citizen.
>>538113227Because cuckserviatives say so.
>>538113227every year now I break the law requiring adults to purchase health insurance. but there is no penalty.life in the US is a tissue of lies and legal fictions with no basis in logic or reason.
>>538113717>let's just give the citizenship to everyone, because reasonsKYS
>>538113227why do extradition treaties even exist if now being present in the US means that the foreign national's home nation has zero jurisdiction over their national?
>>538113718>"Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof": This means a person must owe legal allegiance to the U.S. and be subject to its lawsNo it does not. Just because you don't work for Walmart, if you stand within a Walmart you are subject to Walmart's rules and code of conduct. This includes being forced to pay any fees (taxes) imposed by Walmart. Such as layaway fees, battery return deposits, and klarna interest. Regardless, if you were to take any illegal immigrant and force them to Swear Alligence to the Constitution, most would. This is what Natualization is and is how illegal immigrants become legal immigrants. Existing court rulings require about 10 years of verified Good Character residency to do this, typically proven by 10 years of income taxes.Take away Birthright Citizenship and now you'll need to bring around the last 10 years of your own Federal income taxes wherever you go, to prove Federal Citizenship, and another 10 years of state income taxes for your State Citizenship. And you will need to keep the last 10 years of your parents, grandparents, and ancestors' tax forms to prove they were here legally too. This is very difficult, most Americans cannot do this, and therefore ending Birthright Citizenship has the consequence of allowing bureaucrats to deny Citizenship to anyone they don't like.
>>538113227its a sunk cost fallacy issue and they pretend to "read the law" and interpret it so they aren't faced with the obvious issue of "okay so now what do we do with all these anchor babies?"its a cop out and only giganigga and friends were willing to make the correct decision. ACB was a mistake, and now its proven. fucking idiot white woman who adopted nigger children votes for migrants to remain... who would have thought.
>we need birth rates up>N-No not like that
>>538113227Because America is not based on ethnicity.
>>538113660And that would mean something if it were in the actual text of the amendment, which it is not. You dumb fuck.
Because democrats choose radical cultists for SCOTUS, and Republicans respond by choosing "principled" lolbergs that are just liberals with extra steps. My nigga Clarence and Alito are the only good ones.
>>538113227No. It's an intentional misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment cowering behind the "muh precedent" argument.
>>538113227The big jews want more shitskin debt slaves in the US and less white people. Simple as.
>>538113948Yes. Let's give Citizenship to everyone. It's worked out pretty well for the past 150 years, like it or not over half of America isn't Anglo. You cannot take away the rights of over half of Americans and expect it to work.You don't want to live in America. You want to live in the UK or France where all meaningful Citizenship is by blood only, and difficult to obtain. All the crime problems Europe has is because the nafris, slavs and jeets they import are in a second tier, second class beneath legacy Citizens and therefore have no real ability to buy land or participate in society. There is a reason why they all try to come here, the land of opportunity. It's worked out pretty well unless you're a nigger.
>>538114045>Because America is not based on ethnicity.>for our posterityfound the kike who hates what European Christians built for themselves only
>>538113227There is no explanation besides its a lot easier to appease the left than go against them on polarizing votes. The judges took the easy route, like they almost always do. The left will still want to pack the courts and impeach them though at any opportunity.
>>538113227Of course there’s no explanation for this, this is the death blow to our nation. It’s hard coded now. This place is nothing but an economic opportunity zone for jews to create some strange mystery meat golem race in who will get chewed up on behalf of globohomo jews. Nothing good, nothing coherent, nothing resembling anything American. We’ll just be whatever the Globohomo jews need us to be at any point in time for shekels. The Epstein crowd won. Young bros need to seriously think about alternative places for living if they’re interested in a future of being able to have a wife, family, home or good community. None of that shit really ever happens here anymore, certainly not for White American men. If you have personal reasons to stick around I guess I can’t blame you for that, but know your future will be one of incredible isolation, suffering, abuse and investable blame.
>>538113227Something something black people
>>538113921Wait it’s illegal not to have it? When did they sneak that into law? Hah thats so fucking crazy. Hellhole bolshevik slave prison country.
>>538114171250 years passed since then. America is sum total of everything that happened since. For example slaves aren't 3/5th's of a person anymore.
>>538113977Cope. First of all your whole premise is retarded. Taxes and fees based on services provided, and private property is not the same. Secondly, show me where it says that if this was overturned, it is retroactive and they're going to start deporting people. All this would do is end beaners from running over the border and having children. From China having children in American protectorates getting United States citizenship. If you have two parents, and one of them is not loyal to the United States, meaning a citizen, when you're born you're not an American citizen then. Simple as
>>538114045>the American people and populations don’t matter So what’s it based on then, and what group of people get to decide what that is? It sure as fuck ain’t the goyim
>>538114079If you want to change the Constitution then call a Convention and vote your rights away. Already the jewish republicans have shifted to endorse ending the 17th amendment, which is more realistic as a majority of state legislature can support that as it gives them more power. Once you vote to give away your power, you will never ever get it back and you will be arrested if you complain.The powers that be -jews- want your vote. Literally. They want it for themselves. They do not want you to vote. The moment Americans cannot vote, Americans cannot have a debate about Israeli influence in the government as liberals are now permitting. That's what this is really about.
>>538113960Extradition treaties really only exist in the first place so that jews can kidnap runaway goyim. Has nothing to do with stopping foreign criminals
>>538113227Because it's a loophole we didn't bother closing until now.
>>538114269Obamacare. Started off with mitt Romney care. Back when I lived in that fucking hell hole in Massachusetts, I used to claim religious persecution so I didn't have to pay the tax without having health insurance
>>538114309It's based on the belief that "all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalieanable rights." This is the core of what defines America.
>>538113227America was always supposed to be a jewish multicultural heaven
>>538113227their spawn are ripe for the raping, and the low wage employment, plus they can take on personal debt.
>>538113457Miggers suck jew cock, but they're not wrong about everything.
>>538113977The first half of your post is correct. The bit about “needing 10 years of your income tax returns” is beyond retarded to the point it calls the motivation of your position into question despite the correct paragraph.
>>538114211It’s just them recreating the soviet prison slave country setting in another continent. That’s it. Different “laws”, different excuses, different narratives, same jews, same Bolsheviks, same outcome.
>>538114164>it worked out pretty well for the last 150 years Maybe if one was a member of a cohort doing the replacing and erasing. It’s extremely shitty, depressing and a spiritual death to be a member of a cohort that’s experiencing that replacement and destruction. You globohomo jews don’t care, you guys hate White people, families and men same as you always have. Accelerate
>>538113227Because the constitution says they the right. You don’t like it? Amend the constitution.
>>538113227Because we allow women to vote.
>>538114294>Taxes and fees based on services provided, and private property is not the same.Bullshit and wrong. Go back and read Common Sense or anything written by the Founders. It is the same since the state acts as a Public Sovereign, vs the Private Sovereign - His Majesty The King.>show me where it says that if this was overturned, it is retroactive and they're going to start deporting people. Kilmar Armando Ábrego García. A man that has a GOD given right to a fair trial that President Trump refused him. Trump is not a King, and you wouldn't want to live in a Monarchy like the UK where people like Prince Charles can rape your daughter and arrest you for reporting it. This is the corrupt political system the Founders fought to avoid, it is still very much alive in the UK and they want to bring it here.
>>538114319Well no, actually when the jews pass the “KIDS Act” in a week we will no longer be able to discuss jewish influence ever again. Voting is a red herring, stifling freedom of speech is the killing blow they are looking to deliver.
>>538113718So they don't have to follow the law then
>>538113960Extradition treaties exist BECAUSE the home nation has no jurisdiction. They have to politely askcthe other nation to excercise their jurisdiction to return the citizen
>>538113227Because the constitution says so
>>538113227Need more toyim boyim employin goyim
>>538114045Except it is. While you are a brown liar.
>>538113718uhh sweety so illegal immigrants cant get arrested then? that's what's you're basically saying
>>538113227Because the constitution says so. It's a very stupid rule but what can you do?
>>538114319Well yeah, it’s broken and there’s no fixing it. It’s a dying empire, what is your point?
>>538114164>nafris slavs and jeets can’t buy land in EuropeHuh?
>>538114497Unfortunately the US is playing fast and loose with whistleblowers and free speech rights now. Look how they murdered that publicly vocal epstein victim right in front of everyone the day after she posted they were coming to get her.
>>538114576That says nothing about ethnicity. Only a delusional racist would think otherwise.
>>538114497Oh okay you were just being a troll. How droll
>>538113227It's been like this for centuries.Why are you just talking about it today?
>>538114609It’s more like there are two factions here: jews, and people who want what the jews want. And they are absolutely massive factions. Then, there’s the rest of us.
>>538114048> hurr-durr, what hasn't been ratified in exact words doesn't matterRetard, according to the supreme court retards themselves it does matter what the intent was. And the intent was to never have unconditional birthright citizenship.Also, you are a memeflag and your opinion is worthless. Fuck you.
>>538114319They're the ones changing the constitution by ignoring the part where it says you have to be the legal responsibility of the US thoughbeit.
Because, when taken literally, it's what the law saysIf lawmakers want to restore the original intent then they should rewrite it
>>538114379Who came up with that idea and who gets to maintain it and decide how the story is interpreted then? Because it isn’t the American people. It’s globohomo jews, who will just replace the population and electorate at will. That isn’t a country, that’s an economic opportunity zone under foreign domination. Everyone is talking about it dude
>>538113227Because it's what the slave-owning founding fathers would've wanted.
>>538113227unironically, WASP sexual excitement about niggers working. This eventually was redefined a almost century later with an Asian son liberalizing the execution of the law. >>538113718>Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof"This legal dianetics language is what allowed higher law to interpret that born in the U.S. meant citizenship. You can argue fake history, but it has enough evidence in historical records in judegment; somehow, everyone with enough power to put anyone in their place was widely conceived unanimously at the same time. Your comment is literally the reason illegal parents can do this. However, since then, U.S. has implemented many "birth tourist" laws, from allowing this too financially obvious. Democrats creating power circles to simply allow it to happen is a problem for conservatives.
14th AmmendmentThomas made up a domicile doctrine that doesn't and has never existed, so his dissent is as usual pointless maturbation.
>>538113227>Can anybody LOGICALLY explain why children born to parents here illegally have a right to US citizenship?Because you haven't killed them, yet
>Writing for the majority, Roberts emphasized that the “children born of parents unlawfully or temporarily present in the United States” “satisfy both elements of the Citizenship Clause.” “Under the Constitution,” he concluded, “they are citizens at birth.”
>>538114287>I love that the country was subverted We know, traitor
If they are born here, that makes them native. What's the issue?
>>538114422Yep. I’m not gonna hang around to be labeled one of their kulaks or get forced overseas to get shredded for anti-White male, anti-American globohomos
>>538113718This was to square the circle of Indian lands being American soil, while conquering the Indians.
>>538113660This. It's simply common sense.
>>53811467114th amendment only applies to legal migrants and slaves I don't know why anyone is tolerating retarded leftist pretending otherwise.
>>538113227The constitution literally stating it.
>>538114287>For example slaves aren't 3/5th's of a person anymore.Yeah, because Democrats bring in illegals instead to give themselves more congressional seats
>>538114497> Kilmar Armando Ábrego García. A man that has a GOD given right to a fair trial that President Trump refused him.Dude is an illegal immigrant with a criminal record. You think he should get to stay and argue endlessly why that is? Acceleration can’t happen fast enough
>>538113227can anyone logically explain why billions of people worship a child raping nigger named jesus who has spent every day since the dawn of time doing bill gates hehe child raping nigger garbage ?how fucking stupid and evil do you have to be to believe in it ....
>>538114665It does.
>>538114817Literally says you have to be the responsibility of united states in the amendment there trying to use a a shield.
>>538114519It’s for catching draft dodging White goyim men, that’s all it’s ever been used for
>>538113304 You're so stupid.
>>538113227Because you lost a war and that's the law imposed on you through violence.
>>538114627> Look how they murdered that publicly vocal epstein victim right in front of everyone the day after she posted they were coming to get her.It’s insane to me how no one seems to give a shit about all of that
>>53811490814th amendment Cleary states you have to be the USA's legal responsibility for your child to have citizenship.
>>538113227Women don’t want to abandon children left here
>>538115042>Starvation and diseaseWhat did he mean by this?
>>538113227>All persons BORN!>OR!ofc the niggers are not going to get it
>>538114674> and people who want what the jews want. And they are absolutely massive factions.Nah. It’s smoke a mirrors, an aspect of divide and conquer. The extreme majority of the country, right or left, wants nothing to do with israel whatsoever. But there is no fixing any of this.
>>538115153Who are under the jurisdiction under united states i.e not illegals.
>>538114731>t. Globohomo jew We don’t care how you wish to interpret it anon
>>538113227'tution
>>538114731The original intent says that you have to be the legal responsibility of the us for it to count.
>>538114751> Your comment is literally the reason illegal parents can do this. However, since then, U.S. has implemented many "birth tourist" laws, from allowing this too financially obvious. Democrats creating power circles to simply allow it to happen is a problem for conservatives.>haha blue team red team retards American people lose to globohomo jews again You people are the worst in the world.
>>538113227because it pisses off conservatives
>>538114164>Yes. Let's give Citizenship to everyone. It's worked out pretty well for the past 150 years, like it or not over half of America isn't Anglo. You cannot take away the rights of over half of Americans and expect it to work.Why are you being dishonest in the reality of what's going on with immigration today? Where there are multiple industries, both legal and human trafficking industries that revolve around bringing as many people to the US as possible for economic migration and for disruption. None of this was going on 50 years ago.pic related for the ethnicity of the saboteurs.
>>53811475514th amendments says you have to be subject the United States juristiction, which a person here illegally is not.
>>538113660That appears to be referring specifically to the children of foreign diplomats. It's unlikely that he was thinking about third-world anchor babies.
>>538113227because you decided to be the house slaves in exchange for getting to watch your ancestral home be field slaves
>>538115759Then illegals can rape and kill you as they please, since they're not subject to US police jurisdiction.
>>538115931The person is already illegally here and is deported immediately, if they commit a crime while here they will be treated as a terrorist would peferably.
>>538113227you lost dufus
>>538115836You barely passed English class, I can tell.
>>538113718>This basically means, just because American Indians were born in America, didn't make them American citizens. Because they have their own allegiances to their own nation. Therefore if someone that has allegiances to their own nation has a child here, it means they're not an American citizen.except it just doesn't and the US supreme court just confirmed that today. stay mad
>>538113227It's in the Constitution. You lost, no refunds.
>>538116162Hope you enjoy your insurance premium going up, and no taxing the rich will not fix the fact you allowing anyone to come to ur country to leech off our welfare.
>>538113227order collapses once you promote subhuman niggers to be equal to white humans.its the same as if you declared your enemy as your ally and left them your keys.in your ignorance you violate physics then your building collapses, you cant deny it.
>>538116248>Conveniently ignoring the part where it says that it doesn't apply to illegals
>>538113227It's written into the constitution. There is no logical reason, however, why they can't be sent with their responsible parents when their parents are deported and then come back when they are legal adults, if they choose.
>>538114048>if it were in the actual text of the amendment"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Its right there. You know it is because if you remove that clause, the the infinate anchor baby interpretation DOES NOT CHANGE.
>>538116217All the court did was deny Trump's EO unconstitutional, he has both congressional and constitutionally granted power to enforce the 14th amendment under its author's intended meaning. Trump just can't make EOs extending his office's own influence.
>>538116300The money lost from tax insufficiency is way more than any money used to pay for illegals/their children.
>>538116300L o s t ost
>>538116414You lost, no refunds. :)
>>538116470>All the court did was deny Trump's EO unconstitutionalby reaffirming that anybody born inside of the US is automatically a citizen. Go read the decision
>>538113227Shohei Ohtani's children are American.
>>538113227because rabbi yeshua demands we fill our countries with brown people. the more brown babies the better, the bible (66 books all written by jews) says so!
>>538113227Because we are nice.UnlikeYOU.
>>538116450It's written in the constitution that the 14th only applies to those who are the united states responsibility.
>>538115042>You're stupid hurrrrSays the guy who couldn't even spell the word given correctly. Also, the reason they were given numbers is precisely that; identifying prisoners and the dead. Because it was a POW camp, and they died of typhus and starvation. The comic wasn't saying that they didn't die, it was saying that they didn't die from genocide, because they didn't. Kill yourself, now. Holocaust apologists are the biggest fucking traitors on the planet.
>>538113227Because 14th amendment is not about parents you dipshit.
>>538116573>rabbi yeshua demands we fill our countries with brown peopleSource? Proofs?
>>538113227Why does anyone have American citizenship? It's a completely made up country where literally everyone is some sort of immigrant. It's all so arbitrary that the term "American" is meaningless.
>>538116674No it isn't, you illiterate fuck.
>>538116300idgaf
>>538117002the entire bible? the behavior of every christian church and organization in existence?
>>538117081Then tell me what 'under the jurisdiction there of' means then oh so wise anon.
If someone from another country that is wanted for a crime there is caught in the US, they are then extradited back to that country. Because the originating country has primary JURISDICTION over them, not the US.
>>538113227Because the ewes snuck in
>>538116414There is no mention of illegals in the amendment
>>538113227Because they want the country gayer and browner. Why else would pregnant ticks be allowed to migrate to another species nest, shit out their children, and say>Well you have to take care of our children now, it was a touchdown.jewish nonsense on top of jewish nonsense.
>>538117075we're all "immigrants" when you want to be technical. your shite country was nothing more than a Roman military outpost at one point.
you can stick a fork in this country, it really is over now
>>538113227How is somebody born illegally? It's not like the fetus determines where they're born
>>538113227Just like bills of attainder, the origin, or in this case the answer, is found in British common law. Initial impression is it's the right outcome, but I haven't read the entire thing.
>>538117188Doesn't the Bible also say that the immigrants have to integrate with the lifestyle of the religion or else they can't participate in soceity, and God will be very angry if you let them anyway.
>>538113227>why children born to parents here illegally have a right to US citizenshipIf I'm not mistaken, it's the law.Should it BE the law, or should they have the right ght? No, but that's not what you were asking.
>>538117285No but it says you have to be the responsibility of the united States, which an illegal isn't.
>>538116557SCOTUS doesn't have the authority to overrule the meaning of an amendment as adopted by the states. Laws made post-ratification are irrelevant except where they may oppose the amendment's meaning as stated within congress and adopted by the states. Children born in the United States to parents who are not citizens, are not citizens themselves. They inherit their parent's nation precisely because they are underage and cannot legally pledge allegiance to any nation.
>>538113227Because this world belongs to Satan, and so do the supreme court judges
>>538117335They are born illegal because their parents shouldn't have been in the United States in the first place, and will be sent back with them as it's their child and their responsibility to take care of them.
>>538117335>born to parents here illegally>parents here illegallyReread carefully, nobody said "born illegally"
>>538113227because fuck you white motherfucker GIMME GIBS
>>538117206Because the origin country had jurisdiction when the crime was committed. If the person committed a crime in the US then the US would prosecute them rather than the home countryAnd the fact that the home country is ASKING for the person back and the US doesn't actually have to release further demonstrates the person is currently subject to US jurisdiction
>>538113227i genuinely earnestly have no fucking idea why its still in effect. its intention was for a very specific event/specific circumstances such as the slaves being freed and native americans who were never properly naturalized having children on US soilbut there is no fucking way its intended for beaners who sneak in and shit out a kid here, like that feels like such an obvious unintended use of that
>>538117334>you can stick a fork in this country, it really is over now
>LogicallyThere is no logical explanation. The language in the 14th Amendment about the specific discrete topic of citizenship birthright/jurisdiction was about the former slaves, into the post-Civil War union. It had nothing to do with immigrants or being able to have people from myriad exterior nations come to America and anchor babies here. None of that was intended or implied by the founders, or any U.S. constitutional amendment. Nor would it have been.It's nonsensical.Virtue signaling 20th century leftists and the globalist pro-immigration agenda is the only reason any of this exists as a topic to begin with.
>>538117196Ask the Supreme Court
>>538117306Not true. Britons are indigenous to this land mass. America is quite literally a nation of immigrants so whining about more recent immigrants becoming citizens is retarded.
>>538113227Because it would never stop at just illegals. Retards will demand both parents have to be 6th generation US citizens to pass it on to their children. I am against illegal immigration but support this judgement because MAGAtard would never stop at illegals.
>>538117642Correct, this.(additionally) It was all about people *that were already on U.S. soil and had been for decades/centuries*
>>538117425>If I'm not mistaken, it's the law.It's not the law that an invading army can cross the border and get the right to vote. The enemy combatants aren't under our jurisdiction, and it matters little whether they are conducting martial warfare with rifles, or economic warfare with market distortion. When we catch them, we don't throw them in prison... we send them home. Despite the crime they have committed against us, I might add, because again, NOT UNDER OUR JURISDICTION.
>>538117642Because it isnt Intended for that and clear outlined in the part where it says 'under the jurisdiction there of' the parent has to be the responsibility of the united States for birthright to take affect.
>>538117451It said you have to be subject to US jurisdiction, not that the US has to be "responsible" for you. All children born in the US are subject to US jurisdiction. Hell even if their parents were NOT subject to US jurisdiction why would that matter for the child?
>>538117707>MAGAtard would never stop at illegals.shouldnt that be a base level agreement both sides can easily come to then go from there?
>>538117671You didn't grow out of the earth you fucking retard.
>>538117649No, there retarded and the entire judiciary branch of the United States is a mistake.
>>538113227Can you explain why they don’t?
>>538117825Trump lies and cheats.
>>538117823If you are here illegally you are not under us jurisdiction, you are not supposed to be there.
The H1B "temporary" worker program needs to be ended, with this ruling there is no such thing as a temporary worker program, if the H1B scabs shit out a goblin on American soil they magically become permanent residents.
>>538113227Yeah it's really simple. Basically, if you go to Japan and rob a Japanese person (as one is wont to do), and they arrest you, this makes you a Japanese person, just like Emperor Naruhito himself. Oh, you think that's ludicrous? Well jokes on you, racist, because that is literally what was said by Supreme Court Justice Kentaji Jackson during oral arguments.
>>538117823It matters for the child because their parents is responsible for them, not the government.
>>538113382YepRemember-Donald Trump fucked us all over. Don’t you ever fucking forget it.
>>538113227Because the people who wrote the 14th amendment did not think it through properly
>>538113227It's completely logical if you want to replace the original population.
>>538113227Because of weak willed, caving judges.
>>538113227Because the crowning achievement of boomers is sucking off niggers and violating private property laws to do it. A nigger can stab their child to death and a boomer will keep yamming about how good nigger food ajd nigger music is.
>>538117707And in part because the admin had no answer for how they'd actually define jus sanguinis, they got reamed by Roberts.
>>538117196Go read the opinion from the Supreme Court, illiterate moron.
>>538117671How exactly do you immigrate to a non existent country?
>>538118074Apparently this guy is the main author and he was a raging Christcuck which explains most of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bingham
>>538118224Non citizens are not eligible for federal welfare programs.
>>538114164>It's worked out pretty well for the past 150 yearsExcept it didn't. America was just as culturally segregated in the early 20th century as it is now and there was just as much animosity between different ethnic groups and people of different nationalities, and it was only due to legal force that we decided to play nice. The main difference is that immigration was largely from countries with similar social contracts to America that things kind of worked out. Now that's completely out the window since America has opened the floodgates to immigrants from all over the world with increased preference to those from countries that couldn't be any more different from America socially speaking. What white leftist retards don't understand is that different groups of browns also hate each other (see: Africa), but the federal government has put them all under the same umbrella because it's economically advantageous in the short term. Now it's just become a race to see which group will outbreed and outreplace the other before gaining control.
>>538117671>America is quite literally a nation of immigrantsI hate the English so much. Biggest retards in the fucking planet which is why the Rothschilds set up their central banking headquarters in your country.
>>538113227because that's the law that got passed>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
>>538118144John Roberts is in the Epstein files you dumb faggot.
>>538118153Yeah because I totally want the option of geriatric old men and women who aren't elected to determine whether my country should allow anyone to come in and have their baby suddenly being legal now to be a valid excuse of why the should be allowed to stay fo no reason.
>>538118363Kill yourself then. It's not changing.
>>538118074They never imagined some jews would use pilpul to twist the amendment into something not intended.
>>538117377yes, as long as they accept Rabbi Yeshua as their savior and mutilate the genitals of their children, we have to let in all the brown people who want to come! Praise the jewish god yahweh!
>>538118363>muh geriatricsBetter give a 20 year nigger lover the job.
>>538113227Lawfag here. Yes, logically, Donny Dumpypants hired dipshit ass lawyers to brief and argue the case. So he lost. His lawyers literally couldn't explain why Native American Indians are not birthright citizens. Simple as. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act
>>538114853Sweet! So all the huwites aren't real citizens and should fuck off back to Europe?
>>538118403How about I kill you then change it.
Because Trump only picks the best. The very best! Now you know why there's more pics of trump with Hillary than with Epstein.
>>538118295Yes, but that doesn't stop liberals in the various stated giving it to them.
>>538118449Try it, nigger.
>>538118416Yeshua literally said the circumcision doesn't matter but whatever. You can keep being a clever little Judeomasonic suffocating to hell on nigger dick.
>>538118021Responsibility is irrelevant
>>538117947Is this why illegals crossing the border is somehow OK?
>>538118403>t. Evil anti-White male globohomo jew We know, that’s why we’re leaving. Good men don’t want to share a nation with filth like you.
>>538113227nope and this is the last thing tying me to being a citizen, fuck y'all and enjoy the brawndo
The United States is no longer ruled by law it is ruled by female emotion.
>>538113660The decision got leaked when this was deleted from the LoC.
Can anybody LOGICALLY explain why automatic weapons are covered by the 2nd Amendment.
>>538118519Don't let the door hit you on the way out, shithead. No one wants you clowns in their country so good luck!
>>538114319Just have to repeal the 14th.
>>538118519Thank god, good riddance. I heard Russia is a great place!
>>538118074The thing is they wrote it perfectly. But even the most perfect amendment cannot survive a liberal court's interpretation. Here's a brutally simple proof. If the intent was that anybody born in the US would become a citizen then the amendment would simply say:>All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States.It does not say that because the statement "and of the jurisdiction thereof" is an exclusionary statement, not an inclusionary statement. The way people in the 19th century would have read the word jurisdiction is in terms of jurisdiction of allegiance. Another way to read the amendment could be: >Anyone born or naturalized in the United States, except those who have exclusive allegiance to another sovereign, shall be a citizen of the United States.It is completely unreasonable to say that two non-citizen illegal trespassers can, while in the course of their criminal presence inside our territory, produce an American citizen. There isn't a single thing in the law you can point to where repeatedly breaking multiple laws produces a lawful outcome. As of today the only exception to that rule would be citizenship.
>>538118538No one is a citizen if everyone is a citizen, what is the point of citizenship.
>>538118412This doesn't go against the ruling, dipshit.
>>538113227Because the constitution says so, faggot.
>>538118403I wouldn't make that assumption.
>>538118589
>>538118412>This will not, of course,Ah the naiveite of our forefathers. They didn't even consider putting the right of free association in the Bill of Rights because they could not imagine Congress a law REQUIRING you to serve niggers and jews at your tavern.
>>538118499>you're a jew if you don't worship a jew!This is a spam bot.
>>538117707Going back recursively was the whole point of the case, anon...
>>538118508So the parents can be deported then, since they don't need to be responsible for the child.
>>538117196According to the Supreme Court it means anyone subject to US law. Any class of person that the US can charge with a crime is subject to US jurisdiction
>>538118750I'm shaking in my boots.
>>538116568Shohei should have been banned from baseball because he bet on it.
>>538113227Because we let women be judges. Bedrock levels of insanity.
>>538118819Yes of course, they are illegal aliens
I've typically been right leaning, I always thought Trump had a weak case here. The parental status is irrelevant, the right is for the child. It's how I interpret it anyway.
>>538118650If every white American male moved to Russia, within a year it would become the greatest country in the world and everyone would be scratching their heads over the inexplicable Russian "economic miracle." That would apply anywhere, by the way. We could Make the Congo Great Again if we just left the rest of you behind.
>>538118718Read>>538118565
>>538117196It means it's actually under US controlClaimed land is not administered land. If Canada goes and conquers Alaska, Alaska is still part of the united states,legally speaking, but it's no longer under the jurisdiction of it
>>538116573>(((christians)))
>>538113227Because the Constitution is explicit that born in the US = US citizen. That's all that needs to be said.
The retards that wrote the ammendment didn't take the extra ink to qrite a couple more sentences to clearly literate their intent allowing too much room for interpretation
>>538118718Yes it does, illiterate. I understand they didn't cover use of commas in your public school but it's fairly plain to us whites what that paragraph says.
>>538118305>The main difference is that immigration was largely from countries with similar social contracts to America that things kind of worked out.Every trope repeated against immigrants today is just reheated material from the Irish, Italians, Poles, Slavs, Greeks, whatever. Without fail they're always subhuman people from barbarous lands only here to commit crime and rape women. It only ever changes when the WASPs begrudgingly admit they aren't going away and need to retroactively declare them good white Americans to keep up the fiction this isn't a mutt land built on top of the bones of the actual natives.Nothing is more comical than the idea of a white ethnostate in the western hemisphere which is why none of the other countries even bother pretending.
>>538118873Then why are the people complaining about them being separated from their Oh so precious baby that they decided to make a legal citizen of us and leave them there for whatever reason.
Because your system is weaponised corruption, judaism (satanists, guilty of genocide) have been corrupting the system from a position of official moneh counterfeiters since at least when they used the debtor churchill to create WW2. >nazis were the goodiesYour government and uniparty pedo ring members are weapins for destroying the nation.
>>538118847>>538118960You're wrong about "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." The operative word is "subject" not "jurisdiction." If I go to the UK, I'm still an American. I am a "subject" of the United States. That's why children of diplomats born in the US are not granted birthright citizenship. I don't care what INS says, it has nothing to do with "diplomatic immunity" because how can one parent waive a child's birthright but not another?
>>538118966Christians, jews and Muslims are not a separate group from each other. There are thousands upon thousands of immigration programs run by every single Christian sect you can imagine. Claiming there are major differences between Christian sects as part of the divide and conquer psyop. They are all the same.
>nazis were the goodies?Fictional characters. Irrelevent and manipulated by the same forces.I meant to say
>>538118847So an invading army could bring pregnant women to have birth on our shores and then have a legal foothold; seems far-fetched
>>538119007The main guy who wrote the 14th amendment was friends with blacks back in the early 1800s. He was a leftist Christian. Christians have always been like that. They've been in Africa for 500 plus years sending their missionaries to help black people breed faster.
>>538113227Is this schizo faggot ever going to fuck off? You lost tranny. Jesus Christ you're the dumbest retard in history. Here's your logical explanation. Because the Supreme Court says so. Now fuck off.
>>538113227the more time passes the more evident it becomes that conservatives are just generally very dumb retards.what did they think would happen? that their god emperor would be able to throw out the constitution and SCOTUS would accept it out of pure loyalty to the god emperor instead of jurisprudence?like hypothetically lets say they grant Trump's request, what happens to all the millions of people who were the children of illegals but have been working adults in the US for decades? most of them don't have another citizenship and have spent their entire lives in the US. it's generally considered to be illegal under international law to make someone stateless as well because it fucks up all sorts of international rules like deportation, taxation, criminal jurisdiction, etc if someone has no legal citizenship anywhere on the planet. you can't even open a bank account without valid ID of the country you're a citizen in. so for Trump to revoke their citizenship he'd be sentencing these people to death. these are millions of people who are innocent of any crime because a child cannot be held accountable for the crimes of their parents. conservatives are fucking retarded if they thought this would work.
>>538118879That’s cool. Keep the child and indoctrinate it.
>>538118879Yep. The parents are using a loophole to remain here but essentially the USA is claiming those children as Property Of the USA. The Government is insentivized to continue this policy because it springs citizens out of thin air who must pay taxes in the future.
>>538119145people forget those children will grow up americanized, they act like those kids will just continue to hold alegiance for a foreign nation lmao
>>538113227Blackmail?If the Epstein files had been fully released and unredacted, would Roberts have been sitting on the bench in this case?
>>538119265>act like those kids will just continue to hold alegiance for a foreign nation lmaoDid you wake up from a coma?
>>538119182A child is the responsibility of the parent, not the US government, if they die due to their parents decision it is there fault. Not that Trump is actually killing immigrants babies or whatever retarded nonsense you belive.
>>538119012>Every trope repeated against immigrants today is just reheated material from the Irish, Italians, Poles, Slavs, Greeks, whateverYou got a point. Why just last week a man ran onto a bus in my town screaming "ERIN GO BRAGH!" before detonating a bomb hidden in his kilt. And just the other weeky friend Tony Gambobingo was telling me how he sliced off his daughter's labia "like they do in the old country" and then he served me a heaping bowl of spaghetti and cow shit. Really, all immigrants are the same, and are just like us, and we should be accepting everyone from everywhere.
>>538113717not true99.9% of americans are white native childrenborn of white settlers who settled the forrestonly afer 1930 flood and 1965 esp did this change due to jew
>>538119265Also it is Mexican's these aren't Arab refugees. The USA has had Mexicans on their border and in their country for 200 years. They come from Christian nations.The real issue is the criminals who everyone agrees should be sent back. Give it 5-10 years the Democrats will be the HARD ON CRIME party now they know the niggers will never vote for.their people.
>>538118879A child is the responsibility of the parent that birthed then, not the government they happened to be dumped in. Believing elsewhere is retarded.
>>538113227I know the leftists are overjoyed for this, but imagine if India figured out how to make a giant land mass ship, full of pregnant women, and birthed their children on soil to all become immigrants at once. I'm talking about a billion person ship. Think of all the ways this judgment could comically be abused.
>>538119182>deathsHoly hysteria.
>>538119398Then why does the US Government imprison them if the child is poorly taken care of.
>>538113227It for fraud purposes and to help the pedophile club do their thing more efficiently, like every other system is designed to do. (You) will pay for it all anyway, and you won't do shit to change it.
>>538119182It's because they're Christians. One of the main deceptions in politics is how people think Christians are a right-wing conservatives. How people think Christians are a right-wing conservatives they're when they are anything but that. Take the prohibition movement for example - when women try to ban alcohol. It was a famous feminist political movement led by Christians, because Christians have always been covert feminists going back to Rome. I mean Mary was a fucking jew. Give me a break.
>>538113304fpbp
>>538119408You're joking but Irish and Italian gangs bombing and killing people was a legit issue in the streets of New York and Chicago over 100 years ago.
>>538119056If you go o the UK, you are subject to the jurisdiction of the UK for the duration of your stay. If you commit a crime there they will charge you for it>>538119016They don't want to be separated from their kids I guess, who cares? Shouldn't have immigrated illegally>>538119145No, nations don't generally consider their jurisdiction to extend to foreign soldiers in occupied territory
>>538113227Because that's what the Constitution says, and that's the only job of SCOTUSBrainlets always out themselves in these conversations because you think SCOTUS writes the laws and that is SCOTUS decides something you don't like it must be because SCOTUS wants the children of illegals to be citizens. But that's not how the US government works. This case had nothing to do with whether SCOTUS thinks that children of illegals should be citizens, it's about whether the Constitution says that. Which it does. If you want it changed, go change it, but that's not what SCOTUS is for
>>538119532Because they feel a moral case for the baby, I don't know. I would personally make it so that if the illegal imigrant parents are treating there child poorly I would send them to an orphanage of the parents respective nation.
>>538119574America is a Christian nation.
>>538118583Yeah, there were many hints, no barricades is another one.All these people committed treason.
>>538119265>people forget those children will grow up americanized, they act like those kids will just continue to hold alegiance for a foreign nation lmao
>>538113227How can Tusli Gabbard run for the US President role, considering she's born in Guam? She wasn't born on an US military base, nor were her parents serving. How does Ted Cruz run for President, considering he's born in Canada. There's a lot strange ways people gain US citizenship, apparently.
>>538113227Roberts and the 4 foids.Imagine letting a woman make legal decisions.
>>538119671No the Government owns the Baby. The Government owns you. That is why the government has the right to imprison you and remove your rights if the government determines you have violated the rule of law. Fortunately our Government is run by the inmates and you are tries by your peers.But at the end of the day you belong to the Government.
>>538119265They could be born here and return to the home country (which you understand is not the United States), then return as an adult and be a citizen living a whole life as a citizen of another country. I would, as a future president, impose a draft that would require these “citizens” to return and serve or do their 20 in the stockade.
>>538113227It would require this precedence to be first stemming from logic. Since this form of acquiring citizenship can not be reasonably justified, it can, at best, be described as illogical.
>>538119778All of Guam is US territory. I need to look into it more.As for Ted Cruz he was unironically lying and was even asked what he was going to do if he did win the Presidency and he was like "Lol I dunno resign in disgrace I guess."
>>538119408>being this intellectually dishonestDo you think WASPs saw all the Irish and Italian and Jewish mobsters and went "actually that's ok because they're white, we're definitely not going to stereotype and denigrate them as violent criminals"? Oh, and every Chinaman was an opium addict, of course.200 years ago the immigration acts targeted Catholic immigrants but now pizza is an indelible part of US culture and Italians are "white" so we pretend we always loved them and definitely didn't treat them the exact same way we treat immigrants today. As I said, it's all rehashed.
>>538119688And Christians worship a jew which is why America serves Israel.
>>538113227Because the constitution says so and our law is supposed to be based on the constitution
>>538119875Don't meme with Star Trek they would back this decision and use Klingons born of world to justify it.
>>538119007To be as broad as possible was literally the intent.
>>538119918You are a Jamboy so your opinion doesn't even count as a full persons.
>>538119662>it is literally what the constitution saysIt was what an interpreted amendment to the constitution says. The constitution literally did not say this, hence the amendment.
>>538119632>Irish and Italians set off bombs 100 years ago>That's why you need to fill your country to the brim with hundreds of millions of illiterate disloyal foreign rapists today.I want you to know, when the time comes, that no amount of begging or bargaining is going to save you from judgment.
>>538113457Leftists already violated the constitution by giving women voting rights
anchorbabies are just another gigantic moneymaking industry, like the military industrial complex or pharma. they are not going to mess with it
>>538119969And there it is. You have no reply because you know damn while I'm right. The only reason America supports Israel is because of Christians. You'll try to claim they're fake Christians unlike you, because you're a shill that repeats the same script every thread, because Christians are covert leftists and always have been.
>>538113227No. If anchor babies are allowed, then there is nothing special about being a citizen. You would just be a resident with worse benefits than an illegal alien.
>>538119778Guam, along with American Samoa and Puerto Rico, are US territories. It's not about being a military base. Every citizen of those territories is a US citizen with full citizenship rights.Ted Cruz is just a piece of shit and Republicans don't care about holding their own accountable. By all accounts he is not eligible to be President but Republicans don't care.>>538119995outside of like a tiny bit of it the constitution is all amendments. including the bill of rights. the 14th amendment is very clear about citizenship though and Trump simply doesn't have the authority to throw it out. hell SCOTUS doesn't have the authority to throw it out. it isn't a matter of interpretation. Here's the full text of the Citizenship Clause:>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.There's no room for interpretation unless you're a fucking retard.
>>538119778>How can Tusli Gabbard run for the US President role, considering she's born in Guam? She wasn't born on an US military base, nor were her parents serving. How does Ted Cruz run for President, considering he's born in Canada. There's a lot strange ways people gain US citizenship, apparently.John McCain wasn't even a US citizen at all until he was 3 years old. Laws were passed, that had they been in force when he was born he'd've been a natural-born citizen... but they were passed after his birth and did not apply at the time. Why was he allowed to run?Because it's all jewish horseshit, and there are a set of rules for us, and a different set of rules for those in power.
>>538119905>Muh pizza!>Muh tacos!>Muh yummy brown foods!Go get raped to death by a pack of spics since you love them so much.
>>538113227No one is illegal on stolen land
>>538120129>There's no room for interpretation unless you're a fucking retard.You missed the part about "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" eh?
>>538119265wow, live Pilpul!!! you always hear about it, but to see it up close like this - it's really something!
>>538118764Okay, you obviously can't explain it.
>>538119334>If the Epstein files had been fully released and unredacted, would Roberts have been sitting on the bench in this case?Of course not. Not for sexual improprieties, but because Roberts adopted his children in absolute violation of Irish law. So Roberts has always been beholden to those who traffick children.
>>538119182You are a parasite and a faggot.I personally am very grateful to Trump for doing it, even if it failed, because it makes it crystal clear that this country is taken over and the betrayal of the highest caliber is unfolding.All these people, yourself included, are traitors to this country and its people.
>>538120219in international law the term "jurisdiction" has been pretty much the same for hundreds of years. maybe if you have some dishonest jew lawyer willing to argue it means something it doesn't you could make a case, but they could also argue the sky is pink. in legal terms "jurisdiction" is a matter of geography, not whether you should be there or not.
>>538117377it also says that staying where you aren't wanted makes you the bad one. But you can cherry-pick quotes, so is ez
>>538119726>meanwhile, many sitting republican congressmen proudly and loudly hold their Israeli citizenship higher than their US citizenship
>>538120188>still being intellectually dishonestDon't reply unless you're actually ready to have an argument and not just post twitter screencaps and appeals to emotion because you don't actually have good arguments for the things you believe that aren't just pearl clutching.
>>538120344Trump probably tag teamed with her and made his case weak on purpose so that it would fail, so now the legal precedent has been set so no one will ever challenge it again. Do you think Trump is an actual conservative or right-winger? Then you're fucking retarded
>>538119265>people forget those children will grow up americanizedYou and Emma Lazarus can both die in a fire, you filthy pilpul kike.
>>538113227It doesn't make any sense to give an illegal, rights. Its that simple, however its also the least of our countries issues at the moment. The house is literally on fire and we are worried if cockroaches are breeding in the crawlspace.
>>538120472That’s what Natives said in the 17th century
>>538117594If a Us citizen commits an act in a foreign country that is legal in that country but illegal in the Us. The Us citizen can be prosecuted on return to the Us for that act. The Us has jurisdiction over the citizen. A nation's jurisdiction over a citizen does not end when they cross a border.
>>538119503This already essentially happened with beaners walking across an open border for decades.
>>538113227>Blackrock, State Street and Vanguard applauded the SCJ decision todayQuality diluted. IQ average down. Line go up!Simple as.
>>538118589 memeflag 2 pbtid>Bear>Armsall small arms are included in the Second Amendment:>"the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"1934 NFA is unconstitutional. (As is the 1968 GCA and 1986 Hughes Amendment)All 'gun laws' are totally illegal and violations of the Second Amendment.Murder is illegal. Doesn't matter how/with what mechanism-tool you kill someone:>a red SUV>a bomb>a macheteIt's still murder.
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>>538120587Technically that's because you have an American passport. This is the rule for any country you enter using a passport. That passport means you are a guest of the destination country based on their agreements with your country and therefore will be held responsible by the issuer of the passport. That's why all the Israeli-American pedophiles just use their Israeli passport when traveling to Thailand for child rape.
>>538120600Ronald Reagan let them in btw
>>538113382There were tons of posts pointing this out when it happened too, but of course, an army of Christians was here to drown out the truth.
>>538120781Also Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden too.
>>538115042we gotta count em before we kill em, cuz it's just more practical, and administrative.... Also it's dehumanizing!It just is!! okay??!?OKAY?!??kek. I wonder if gen z will literally be this easy to fool.
>>538120587Extraterritorial laws are the best ones to ignore. Fuck globohomo.
>>538113227Becuase the great replacement is real and trump more than everyone else LOVES to replace people while talking a line of bullshit to keep the wool pulled over your eyes
>>538119659>you are subject to the jurisdiction of the UKYes. But I am not one of His Majesty's subjects, that's the relevant bit.
>>538118036And yet no one who doesn't want this country destroyed is voting for Democrats in 2028. No amount of shilling is ever going to change that tranny kike.
>>538120776>That's why all the Israeli-American pedophiles just use their Israeli passport when traveling to Thailand for child rape.isreal has the same extraterritorial age of consent law of 16 as the US. What would the advantage be? Age of consent in Thailand is essentially 18 anyway, they purposely make most of their laws extremely ambiguous and stated in such a way that they can ignore their legal stated AOC of 16. Not to mention they have a retroactive clause that does not expire nor requires anything more than the claim to be made by the "victim."
>>538113660We don't force tourists that have babies to have their kid be a citizen and then owe us taxes on income they earn back home. The idea is preposterous. Why then would we grant it to felons that just crossed the boarder moments ago? Birth right citizen ship was always for citizens and law abiding US persons only. Not anyone that just happened to be here.
>>538121502>isreal has the same extraterritorial age of consent law of 16 as the US. What would the advantage be?Israel doesn't enforce child rape laws despite their on paper rules. Look up what the hasids are doing in the occupied west bank settlements with child brides and widespread pedo rape gangs.
>>538120264You obviously can't read.
>>538120391Exactly, you can't serve two masters, Bible 101
>>538113227if you're going to invade america, at least be american first. Burn all your mexican flags if you want citizenship and we can reserve you a spot in Little Mexico
We can settle this real easy.>you're here illegally >you give birth here>we take your baby >we kick you the fuck outThat will end Anchor babies.
>>538113977Retard, the 14th Amendment was understood to explicitly exclude Indians for the reasons that Anon stated. That's why Congress had pass the The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. The administration tried to argue that the Wong Kim decision applied only to parents who were domiciled in the US, taken to mean permanent legal residence. Kavanaugh wrote an opinion stating that the definition of "jurisdiction of the US" is actually governed by Congress and they are free to change it by amending this law:>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401Also, you're a complete faggot for writing something as stupid as this:>Take away Birthright Citizenship and now you'll need to bring around the last 10 years of your own Federal income taxes wherever you goThe decision was not going to affect any existing citizens. The Executive Order was specifically non-retroactive. Retarded shitlibs like you want anchor babies and birth tourism.
Anytime someone says 'if you're born in <white country> then you're a national of that country", I think of the Chink in Argentina situation. In what circumstance would Argentinians accept a purebred chinese man as one of their own? would he just have to fluently speak their language? born there? how is it any different for any other race being born in another country?
Look at the 14th Amendment's slightly reworded predecessor, the Civil Right Act of 1866:"That all persons born in the United States and ---not subject to any foreign power---, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States; ..."transformed into the 14th ..."All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and ---subject to the jurisdiction thereof---, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. .."Scotus is intentionally misinterpreting this.
>>538113227I know, right? We say "fuck the constitution" when it comes to war, privacy, warrants, speedy trials, asset forfeiture, the right to bare arms, cruel and unusual punishment, due process and free speech so why would we give a fuck what it says about citizenship? Just because it says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." that does not mean a fuckin' thing. Fuck the Constitution and fuck the traitors who don't want to continue to ignore it.
>>538113227Because that's how the rules were written. It is morally and logically wrong, but until the rules are rewritten we need to deal with it.
