Why doesn't he just make peace with Ukraine? He already has all the valuable territory in Ukraine and plus Ukraine/NATO/Europe has been military defeated.
Why should he? Anyway going by the cables I found, queef is going to be nuked
He doesn’t want the war to end anon, it enables him to stay in power
>>538117515Because Ukraine not gonna settle and is going to follow his ass home and take everything back by force
Ukraine does not want to give up said valuable territories.
>>538117515>Why doesn't he just make peace with Ukraine? He already has all the valuable territory in Ukraine and plus Ukraine/NATO/Europe has been military defeated.war wont stop until Von Der Leyen is dead and (hopefully) raped
>>538117921what kind of absolute dogshit retardation made you drag a fucking civilian bureaucrat into this, goddamn
>>538117515>He already has all the valuable territory in UkraineWhat?
>>538117515because he can't. he started this entire thing to build himself a great image; that of the fascist smasher. uniter of rossiya and great leader. It's the same MO as when he did the moscow apartment bombings in 1999 and jumped in to blame chechnaya and start wars with them and rescue rasha. He can't make peace with them. It destroys his image. Makes him look like he capitulated. No he'll fight to the last pidorashka, because he wants to be a great like Lenin. Smashing the fash. etc.
>>538117515I guess he is scared that if he settles for anything below his maximalist demands he will get murdered
>>538118078The territory they have in Ukraine has trillions of dollars in rare earth metals.
>>538117515>Ukraine/NATO/Europe has been military defeated.This nigger doesn't know? do he....kek
He can't, the biolab trannies are still here and the banderite are still oppressing the native russians (although they have all been replaced by churkas in liberated areas xd)
>>538118152>the "rare" earth copeholy shit kill yourself
>>538117515Russians already don't give a fuck about Ukrainian territory, they just want gas. Many are already starting questioning wtf they even need Crimea for. Puty in trouble.
>>538117515What makes you think Ukraine wants the war to end? Ukraine is being ground down for each month the war continues, but Ukraine's leaders are making more money than they ever could have by ruling over a peacetime Ukraine
He wants more ethnic Russians to die to speed up the replacement.
>>538118015just for teh fun
>>538118189Did anybody actually believe the biolab nonsense?
>>538119324its funny how /pol/ treats him like a saviour of the white race, when he's all for miscegenation and islamification, somehow its ok when putin does it
>>538119709Its been proven. The documents were released.Its like you cocksucking faggot shills are broken
>>538117515do you think you can take zelinsky brah?
>>538119324This guy gets it
>Why doesn't he just make peace with Ukraine>He already has all the valuable territory in UkraineTruly thought provoking.
>>538117515no banane
you mean like when he made peace with minsk accords, and then eu/nato just used that peace to arm the banderites.>NATO/Europe has been military defeated.that's true, but they won't realize it until several hundred millions of them are dead
>>538120383Lol. Do you really believe your countires military can take Europe?
>>538120165May I see them?
>>538117515Since the beginning of the war, Ukraines stance is that peace can only happen if Russia returns all Ukrainian territory, including Crimea.
He would lose face and he can't be humiliated in front of thirdies
>>538120982Stop pretending you are here to have a discussion, tranny faggot shill.>https://www.military.com/gabbard-releases-biolab-records-years-after-disinformation-accusations>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gabbard-says-declassified-biolab-records-validate-concerns-previously-dismissed-misinformation>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/on-her-way-out-dni-tulsi-gabbard-drops-a-bio-labs-truth-bomb-on-mitt-romney-and-news-media/ar-AA25x4VL
>>538117515hes fucked. probably on a leash now by usa and china just selling off more and more of russia every single week it seems. all while mass importing africans and indians at a level no where else in world is even coming close to, not even france.
>>538121414>if you ask questions, you're a TRANNY!LMFAO isn't that something. I thought trannies weren't real?
>>538117587>queef is going to be nukedThat would be quite the prank. When? 2 more weeks I assume.
>>538121674So now you deflect and pretend you werent just shown proof.Like a faggot
>>538117515ukraine doesn't want peace and zelensky is an illegitimate president until he holds elections.
I think the one thing this war has proved is that nobody is ready to stop Russia from doing what they want. NATO and the US had a chance very early to jump in whole-heartedly but they weren't there. Russia didn't do it perfect but they proved they weren't gonna be stopped. It has solidified russia as being a consistent player in the new world order coming out of this century.
>>538121754On the same day Iran gets nuked. The cable did not specify a date
>>538122071>New world orderIts just the old. With China eliminated as third wheel making it 100% dependent on Russia after having eliminated Iran an controlling the strait, its practically again 1945, this time without UN
>>538121760What was I shown proof of, exactly? Wasn't the original claim that supersoldiers were being created in these biolabs and that NAFO was making some super black death plague that was going to be released if Putin didn't invade immediately? Why would this invasion stop these evil biolab plans, given that these biolabs exist all over the world?
>>538122199However you want to look at it. I mostly agree. It's always gonna be the same shit until someone actually rallies to make a significant effort. Mostly it's just a new distraction to waste the human resource.
>>538122373Nobody is going to rally anything. Spengler was mostly wrong with everything, except one thing, culture/civilization. Nobody rallies in a civilization, it requires culture
>>538122350See what I meanEven when shown proof you just keep lyingLike only a man prentending to be a woman can do.So you never wanted proof in the first place...
>>538122658I'm not saying it will happen. But this is like Trump with Iran as Putin is with Ukraine. Except Putin played his cards right with the timing and flexibility even though it's looking like a lose either way. Compared to Trump totally failing. Im just saying if we expect to see any major geopolitical shifts coming out in this century it's going to take a rally of some sort to change the status quo.
>>538122946He won't lose. Neither will the US. Europe and the UK made a giant mistake, they refused to support the US in Iran, to cripple China. This makes the decision very easy for the US. Sacrifice NATO, have a secret deal with Russia and eliminate China, by giving Russia a card blache for using nukes against Ukraine while using nukes against Iran for Russia to stand down. Russia and the US win, China, Europe, the UK and the UN lose.Cleanest solution for a stable two great power world
>>538117515because it means putin would have to admit his strategic defeat.
>>538119896people here mock ukraine even when russia is doing the same thing lol. the best thing putin could have done for ethnic russians was nothing
>>538123248Read the fucking nuclear doctrine. Russia is not going and doesn't have to accept a strategical defeat .its a nuclear power, Ukraine is not, neither the UK nor France are going to risk getting into a nuclear stand off with Russia over Ukraine
>>538123342>Read the fucking nuclear doctrineThis boyo probably also reads the bible and the letters from santa KEK
So just put yourself in Russia's shoes. Hou got NATO constantly expanding despite promises not to and no real threat, Ukraine wanting to join NATO which means potentially missiles on Russian border very close to Moscow. The west refusing to acknowledge Russia's natural concerns about it and instead arming Ukraine and sanctioning Russia to death? If Russia says right now "ok, you know whatm this is enough", do you the west wouldn't use that peace time to flood Ukraine with more weapons and eventually expand NATO into it? Do you think the west will suddenly unfreeze Russian assets and stop sanctioning Russia? The only way for Russia is to keep the pressure and possibly take over most of Ukraine or at least landlock it, then force the west to negotiate on better terms.
>>538123155They aren't going to go that far. The greatest strength of a nuclear power is the threat, not the use. And I don't see the US, Russia, or China really wanting to disrupt the status. They just wanna keep their big boy image to tussle out the small players while diplomatically gaining the resources of the small fries. They can't colonize them nowadays so they'll use the dog and pony show to drain them systematically. The ironic part is that Europe thought it was big boy status when it's really not. That's the greatest upheaval to happen in this century, while big blocks of shit countries gain a foothold like south america, africa, and the stans in central Asia.
>>538123471Kraut, do you really think that the UK or France are going to risk getting a nuke over fucking Ukraine? I already see you idiots launching ground forces after queef got a nuke, and then wondering why Berlin ends as a crater, and whining why big daddy US won't retaliate for you
>>538123516China is a third wheel destabilizing the planet. It has to go, for Russia and for the US. Yes, under optimal circumstances the nuke is just deterrence, but the world has forgotten what a nuke is. It has to be reminded
>>538123342using nukes would also be an admission of the strategic defeat, but with even worse consequences. also, ukraine has already invalidated the doctrine (purely suggestive document btw) multiple times throughout the war.
>>538123676That's just nationalistic hyperbole. The reality is money controls those in power. They don't really care who has it as long as they can get it. "Nation" is just the public image of what tools they can use to do so. That's why the political game is so useful and old school, cus if you can use the concept of both ends of the spectrum to simultaneously wear down national borders while using the patriotism of a nation to enrich and conquer, you can gain the upper hand in your corner of the wealth spectrum.
>>538123864Trudeau? Show Canadian flag.How is using a nuke admitting defeat? Its literally the most straight forward dare available
>>538117515Peace is only possible if the underlying issues are addressed. Okraina does not want to do that. The war will continue.
>>538117515He doesn't fully control any of the oblasts they added to their constitution years ago.He can't enforce no Ukraine in nato/demilitarization/denazification.He basically used their their peacetime economy as kindling to fuel the war, when the war and wartime economy ends too it all comes crashing down.While prigo wasn't actually trying to take out Putin the soft-mutiny spooked Putin with a reminder that he technically could be dragged out of his bunker and finally experience the Russian express elevator for himself.So the war continues at any cost, the Internet and those who speak inconvenient truths are increasingly cracked down on, etc.
>>538123947That's the elitist view, and the concept of elites is likely not going to survive the current epistemic environment. An elite is only an elite if it has control over language, over perception if it loses that, and it mostly has lost it because it can hardly compete in the communication channels with the noise, it defaults back to nation and ideology. Globalism was a outlier of a time where communication was global and at the same time controllable. Its still global, but not able to be controlled anymore
>>538117654lmao
>>538117515It's impossible to make peace with Ukraine, because Za and his corrupt clique making literally billions. As long as they and the system he and his predecessor made is around, hohols won't stop terrorist acts, like they didn't stop in all those 12 years. You think "to the last Ukrainian" was exaggeration?
>>538122875But what did you show me proof of? That there are international labs testing diseases? No shit, these exist everywhere. How many nations are invading each other because of this?
>>538124218That's speaks for going from deterrence to finally reminding the world and his opposition what a nuke is
>>538124742Just go away with your 5 year old scripted responses you sick faggot shill
>>538125062>GO AWAY LEAVE ME ALONE IN MY ECHO CHAMBER WAH WAHWhy did I sound retarded when I repeated exactly what the vatniggers said about the biolabs?
>>538124582Time will tell. I just don't think the amount of wealth can be ignored anymore as a distribution. The 1% has never had this much ability before. I hope ur right though.
>>538125115So you asked for proof then didnt read the article.You are just repeating your nafo troon propaganda that has NOTHING to do with your retarded outdated talking points .Pretty much proving you are a disgusting troon who cringes from the truth. How do you faggots lie with zero shame?
>>538117515Till the last hohol isn't a meme.
>>538125120That's the joke about it. Since the world went full FIAT the wealth is not really wealth, its liabilities. 420T in the hole to 280T in production, and that's not demand. Fiat economies are first trust, no trust, no cooperation incentive, no economy, no wealth. One can to some degree replace trust with coercion, but coercion is brittle mistress that always harbors the danger of defection, by elites and by drones. A clean way to produce a kind of balance between trust and coercion would be a more stable two great power split. If that's not case, and the in the 1980s stuck "elites" and their retarded tech idiots that mistake power over algorithms with power over perception, try to pull off the "Agenda 20xx" playbooks, civilization might end and culture is back in da house
>>538117515Peace isn’t good for business
>>538117515ukrainian army lost >1.5 mln soldiers dead, now he can take more land without huge loses which is he doingfuthermore ukraine is depopulated so there will be no resistance, they will need just to pay pensions for locals for some decades before they die outi am thinking what zog may do with their part of ukraine, it will be either blacked or jeeted or niggerjeeted
>>538117515He has no way to consolidate said gains. Even Crimea is beginning to contract.
>>538125461The article says nothing about supersoldier Ukrainians bred with half-gorilla DNA and magical super powers like night vision and steel skin. It also says nothing about a modern version of the Justinian plague that was going to be airdropped onto every city between Kursk to Vladivostok.
Just in time for sweaty ziggers, huh?TZD
>>538125461>>538126073the claim was actually that they were making russophobic viruses that could differentiate between russians and ukrainians and then train infected russophobic geese to fly to russia and spread the virus. Yes, that was what russia officially presented at the UN
>>538120868For me: when they bombed Berlin i asked for their Patreon.
>>538126073Why are you a faggot drama queen?>>538124742See? You are just using the same old propaganda>Russia said they were making super soldiersExactly when and where did Russia say that?You are just a pathetic faggot shilling for your kike master in kiev
>>538117515He's a rigid autistic retard who stubbornly wants to get the whole Donbas because that's what he put in the constitution.And if he doesn't get that he thinks he's screwed.But it's retarded because he's stuck in a sunk cost fallacy and he's gonna keep throwing money and bodies just to get a few extra tens of kilometers in an area that has already been turned to Mars wasteland after years of bombing. Russia doesn't really need those extra resources, it already has most in the world. It's a BS excuse to just persevere in a dumb autistic challenge
>>538126870So? They lied about not doing gain of function too, shitskin faggot. >The debate is no longer whether U.S.-supported laboratories exist overseas, as the newly declassified documents establish that they did. The larger question raised by Gabbard’s release is whether Congress, policymakers and the public had a complete understanding of how many facilities existed, what research they conducted, and what pathogens they contained.
>>538125962Yeah, at this point basically Ukraine has no good reason to stop.They gain more by harassing all those areas with drones until the population leaves and they become deserted. Then what was the purpose of occupying extra land if you can't live there?The purpose was to break Ukraine apart and it failed anyway.
Putin is not a great intellect. He's created nothing. He's merely a thug.
>>538127153>Russia didn't say that!Ok but the shills did. Are you saying that the people on your side are liars?
he fucked up. he wanted the whole thing . he bluffed. then he went all in. now he's stalling for time until he croaks.
>>538127837My side is the truth
>>538117515Because he's winning.
>>538128792Why aren't you fighting on your side in the trenches?
>>538117636This is a stupid take. He would stay in power for many years without the war.
>>538117515Because he aimed for Poland with the invasion. Donbass is not enough.
