If you're childless, you're a parasite.
Every child under 18 should mean 25% off all income taxes.4 kids, no tax
>>538128361One day you're going to realize that saying retarded shit for attention only gets you the attention of retards.
>>538128361Incels should subsidize chad and stacy
>>538128361Bolshevik shithole country. So glad i’m moving abroad
>>538128361Because they paid for that retirement.
>>538128361Having children is a choice. If you want money instead of children, that is your decision to make.
>Some random nobody has an opinion on social media.Big if true!
>>538128361In the trash you go
>>538128361So what happens once all of us save up enough money by not getting married or having kids and dont need retirement benefits? Gonna institute a bachelors tax? Mandatory sperm donation? Tell ya what, line the women up for me, make me legally/financially free and clear of any and all obligations to the woman and kids, and I'll help you with your birth rate issue.
>>538128361the bigger question: why should anyone be taxed for someone else's benefits? lmao
>>538128531and parents paid for retirement PLUS the next generation of humans that keep your infrastructure up and running. parasite
>>538128361nah.parasites work for the government or run mega corporations.
Did molymeme ever consider that I’m an incel who has been earnestly trying for over a year?
>>538128361Because I paid into the system retard.
I havent been given a good reason to have kids, if we can in the future when im 40 I will adopt an alien or Robot kid, I personally find bringing a child into this prison planet heinous.
>>538128444no hes right
>>538128361Same question but for girldads. Go.
it's women's fault. why should i be doubly punished for being rejected by them?
>>538128361Being childless an unmarried, I save a shitton of cash that I invested in the stock market I don't need a government pensiongo ahead and not give me money and see if I care
>>538128361Way to punch down, Stefan. Can we address illegal foreigners getting taxpayer benefits before natives?
>>538128361I'm taking care of my dementia momfuck you
>>538129026no to fund Israel's territorial ambitions all services for naturalized citizens will be strip bare.
>>538128980Implying men commit LOL
>>538128361>ragebaiting question>pls subscribe and watch my next oneWhy shouldn't online grifters get thrown in a woodchipper? They don't contribute anything tangible except increasing negativity and thus pushing society further down the toilet. They make money on increasing doom and anguish in people's minds
>>538128782You took money from their every paycheck. They earned and paid for it themselves. >>538128782>the next generation of humans that keep your infrastructure up and runningAnd they're getting paid for doing those jobs.
>>538128361Provide men with state-mandated wives or fuck off with this tradcuck bullshit.
>>538128361Okay. Refund me all the tax money that has been stolen from me that went to pay for schools and universities over the past 20 years then. I shouldn't have to pay for other people's children's education.
>Stefan MolyneauxOne dolluh. I need ONE DOLLUH. Please d'nate!
>>538128361>t. Shill with no kids of their own.
>>538128782>PLUS the next generation of humansthey got paid in personal fulfillment, dopamine, Kodak moments and the pitter patter of tiny feet nobody made them have kids, they had them for themselves
>>538128361This coming from the man who spent a decade telling young men they should abandon their family if they were spanked as a child
>>538128361This is why i encourage teenage pregnancy
>>538128672He is a communist and he wants to murder you. Do you understand that?
I get taxed to pay for your kids' schools. Why does the welfare state only offend when you're not getting something out of it?
>>538128444Ironic.
>>538128361This guy touches on something sensible. Take the US where everyone is paying into social security - parents and child-free people alike. Everyone should get a base level of benefits that's proportional to their contribution (the way it works now), but the only way this shit works is if there's a steady supply of taxpayers contributing into the system. People who have kids are the ones ensuring the system keeps working (sure congress gutted the funds but that's a different matter). Those people also have less disposable income to put towards retirement. It would be completely sensible to give those people a higher level of benefits when they retire.
>>538128361>Why should this when that?How are people stuck in 5th grade logic? Humans are gay. And lame.
>>538128361>Why should childless people get retirement benefitsbecause I was forced to pay into it you faggot negro son of a bitch
>>538128361>if you are bald everyone knows you have nothing else to lose
>>538128361And yet he gaslights most of his callers to tell them never to have children because they arent as in touch with their emotions as he feels himself to be. Mans got a serpents tongue, side effects of being half possessed by his demon mother.
>>538128361The parents are the fucking parasites.Parents get higher pay just because, and yetChild tax creditsFree lunches for your kids at schoolAnd now, show me your ID if you want to play videogames online...All paid for by the childlessYOU FUCKING LEECHESHave you no shame?
I aint paying for nigger kids and white whore race traitors
Molyjew
>>538128361why do you need me having kids?
>>538128361>gets shitloads of tax breaks for having kids>everyone else is freeloadingfuck off
>>538128361>yes, everyone has the same path in life, you're all little plantation piggies and if you didn't follow along the path set out before you by the system and fail, it's your own fault in some way, we're not to explore the why's, you all lived my same carbon copy life and I'm also very intelligent and not a pompous retarded grifting douche nozzle, don't forget to subscribe and hit the like button if you want more titillating, thought provoking takes.I love my brown colleagues and don't want to go on a mass shooting spree now, thanks Molymew
>>538128361As soon as the the majority of people having kids aren't tax negative in contributions
Hey, parents, here's a clue.WE OUTNUMBER YOU NOWYOU BETTER SHUT YOU FUCKING MOUTHS
>>538129191everyone gets paid for their jobs retard. the difference is you dodged the cost of keeping society going>>538129291and you depend on those kids keeping society going when you are old. no wonder u ppl are childless
>>538128361It's my money. Nobody else's kids ever paid for me.
>>538128434B…b…BASED!
>>538128361So they don't come and kill you and your children for rejecting them during breeding age.
>>538130113>and you depend on those kids keeping society going when you are old.when I no longer can take care of myself, I expect to die more or less gracefully I will not depend on anyone, go fuck yourself if you want to have kids, have them for personal reasons don't give me no heroic bullshit how you're breeding the next generation of fucking nurses because that's dishonest
>>538130113>you dodged the cost of keeping society goingSays the $2200 child tax credit per half-orc, married-filing-jointly-so-I-pay-way-less tax dodger
>>538128361Fine. But I want the school portion of my property tax back.
>>538130113>you dodged the cost of keeping society goingThe taxes you paid before retirement covered for it. You're also STILL paying property tax (keeps your city going), sales tax, ...Sounds like you're expecting childless people to fund the future of someone else's children. You want them to be cucks.
>>538128361X bait post. i fucking hate X and Elonbux.
>>538128361I’ll take being a “parasite” over being a simp / cuck anyday of the week.
>>538130389No one cares what you want incel
>>538128361Cuckservatives will say this shit then seethe when Jamal and Latisha have 12 kids and milk the fed
>>538130113>and you depend on those kids keeping society going when you are old.They don't do it for free. You'd have a point if the new generation was working for free. But they aren't.
>>538128361The government has been stealing 1/3 of their paycheck every year, regardless of how much money they have saved by not having kids. So I don't see what one has to do with the other unless you are going out of your way to simp for the thieving zog niggers.
>>538128361Then let childless people stop paying property taxes (or any other tax) that funds schools, daycares, anything to do with children and let you pay for it yourself. The money they save can then be put in their 401(k) instead.
>>538130856Also force parents to pay for their own paternity/maternity leave.
>>538130856Nope, you can pay for everyone's kids and also the Haitian to replace you
>>538128980should women be punished for rejecting you?https://www.bitchute.com/video/whPSRYp6Zaa3
>>538128361Okay, give me a virgin, submissive wife and I'll start a family next month. Where is she?
>>538128675no one ever accused these people of being economically literate.
>>538128483Hope you enjoy international poverty, faglord.>>538128361memeflag here means what her says. we should all sacrifice our firstborns to pedophiles, they don't like it when you're not popping out white kids, the same white people they abuse.and hispanics, we count as 87% of a white person. every other minority is worthless.
>>538128782Nobody forced them to. They shouldn't have had kids.
>>538128361who the fuck do you think pays for your child tax deduction, nigger? it isnt YOU.
>>538128782he's one of the indios stupid enough to stay in that shithole, dirty nigger lover. rap some more wigger.90's hip hop never dies. as long as you're getting cucked.
>>538128361>1PBTID 1PBTID>MEMEFLAGGOT MEMEFLAGGOT >XITTER RAGEBAITXITTER RAGEBAIT>YOU ALL FELL FOR IT AGAIN YOU ALL FELL FOR IT AGAIN
>>538131379You have to earn it loser
He's right>but I paid into he system!Way fucking less than you benefit from it if you include retirement. Like only a handful of individuals aren't positive to the economy The saddest reality is gov backed retirement is unsustainable. Children should be you retirement plan
rough times a head for pureblood chuds.
>>538128361This statement makes almost no sense
>>538128985> Polandyou have balls, these are Americans we're talking about. Zoomer girls and trans are going to be sucking our dicks.
>>538128361I agree, my taxes shouldn't go towards anything that can positively affect children if I don't have any.
>>538130558almost as if Jamal and Ladaysha are based and Republicans are huge faggot cunts make it shitty for everyone, its the conservative way!something to consider before letting black trans ex cons into women's restrooms
>>538128434For whites yes for niggers and poopooskins no
>>538128361How old is Stefan's daughter now? Have his jeeta nieces found White cocks to ride yet?
>>538128361Who would want to have children on this gore horror world?
>>538131859she's 18 i think. stef basically turned into a normie last few years. as you can see in op.
>>538128361Breeding is for lowly goyim.
>>538131948>she's 18 i thinkWow she sounds hot and sexy. Wonder if she's single.
>>538131379lmao, bro they're doing everything but that. I mean the virgin partJajaja, hermano, están haciendo todo menos eso. O sea, la parte de tener la virgen.Hahaha, cara, eles estão fazendo de tudo, *menos* isso. Quer dizer, a parte de ter a Virgem.
>>538131808>Ladayshait's La-sharemember, the dash don't be silent
>>538128361Then dont tax childless people. They arent obligated to pay for your crotch goblins schooling.
>>538131997i don't think she's ever been on camera. she sounds pretty annoying desu
>1pbtID>meme flagnot falling for it
>>538131573>you have to earn it trying to fuck a woman>you guys need to have kids you do realize where you are posting this t unless china fully develops their androids that have artificial wombs that could get pregnant or the usa does beats them to it with thier invention but they seem to be not to focus on that solution their just asking people to habe more kids op's wish for more babies will come true and no more single shaming
>>538132015the point is I don't remember the black lady's name. this shithole is a zoo, and the nigger animals are in charge. (or they believe so, and they are, up to a certain point)
>>538131859>>538131997You have to wonder if all this raging at bachelors is because Stef only had one daughter (One. Daughter.) and he's worried about her not having kids of her own. Since he's all about muh legacy and muh bloodline, this very likely prospect must really fuck with him.
>>538132447stef has turned into a normie and quite the boomer. you're mostly right. she's also a bit of an oddball in her behavior. he's definitely afraid she won't have kids. he also cant see clearly anymore living with two women. also see op, his reasoning is basically normie tier now and he's arguing random opinions instead of principles. he mentioned in some podcast that he found the wifejak meme heartwarming, and mentioned specifically some wifejak meme along the lines of "that 4 hour detour was totally worth it to get a hamburger at my favorite mcdonalds" or something similar. an irrational behavior that he would scold any caller to not end for.
>>538131841it's income tax so pajeet already pays zero (low earnings category scab work) and niggers don't work.
All pension schemes should be abolished and made illegal forever by a constitutional amendment>Take young people's money (the category of people who need the money most but make the least)>Give that money to old people who have had 50 years to plan and save up and make connections>Young people now have to work more and old people never have to pass on their skills or have children or downsizeCongrats, you made the housing crisis, now you also made the skills crisis, now you also depressed the birth rates and made all young people poor.
>>538132963It could also be that he was a shill the whole time, and his marching orders are now to push this toothless tradcuck ideology after having built up good will with political dissidents. Sam Hyde and Mister Metokur, who were also popular in dissident circles in the 2010s, also started spewing really bad takes recently. It lines up.
>>538133282i guess that could be, but honestly he tried to reason from first principles if you go 15 years back. but who even knows. either way, he's obsolete now because he's turned normie and can't see clearly because he went the normie path in life. you have to give up truth to be married, it's part of the deal. you have to accept that women aren't in reality in the same way men are.
>>538128361>be undesirable >instead of easing up, society doubles down and labels you a "parasite"
>>538128361So you want me to pay taxes (which I already pay more of than people with kids) and not get the benefits?Kek
>>538128361That's fair. If I don't have kids, then I don't get retirement benefits. If i don't get retirement benefits, then I should be reimbursed for all of the money I have paid into social security.
>>538128361Doesn't he have one child with a chink?
>>538132353>waaaaah im not gonna have kids unless you give me a mcmansion and free virginOK incel,,,,lmao
>>538133917>i shouldLife isn't fair crybaby and it doesn't conform to twisted incel "logic"
>>538134261i understand you're probably normie tier iq but anyway, if we just accept "life isn't fair" then there's no reason arguing for or against opinions whatsoever, we basically revert to might makes right
any person who has fewer than the replacement rate for a population shouldn't get anything. that includes peter molyneux
>>538130856>>538130911thisfuck the leeches
>>538128361
>>5381318410% of 0 is still 0
>>538128361Why should childless people get taxed to pay for kids people CHOSE to have?
>>538128672They dont want white men reproducing. They sure as hell ain't gonna line bitches up for us to fuck.
>>538128361Their children are predominantly parasites. That's why 70% of them are sexless now. You made one big dysgenic mess. It's not on others to fix for you. Childless people should not be responsible for your ugly little mistakes.
>>538128361>you're a parasite.Not my problem
>>538128361The parasites are all the niggers shitting an incredible amount of niglets.
>>538134336>revertIm a supergenius.....lmao when did we stop being might is right fren you are living in a fantasy world
>>538128361100% should not get SSI benefits without having kids.
>>538128361https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3HPAqNn96Y
>>538134670>They sure as hell ain't gonna line bitches up for us to fuck.Exactly and these incels are like "i will show them, i will have my revenge by crying in my basement and ending my bloodline "
>>538128361How about anyone who perpetuates existence in the demiurge's torture realm should be put up against the wall.
>>538134843it wasn't a particular moment, it is been roughly the last couple of thousand years when we realized reasoning works better than just impulsively killing each other in affect, but that only applies to those of us with an iq over roughly 110, the rest of you are basically monkeys
Children get shitloads of subsidies, all paid by tax dollars.Why should everyone pay for your crotch fruit? Breeders are the real parasites.
>>538128361Why have I been paying for school busses and school education K-12 for everyone's children if I don't have children myself. I also pay higher insurance rates due to the cost of pediatric care etc etc etc. Molyneux can fuck off with this latest bullshit of his
>>538128361What's this? Another soft-handed urbanite who has never done a day of hard labor in his life here to tell me all about what it means to be based and trad?
>>538128361I don’t think you want me to have children Jew-kun. Stop being so two faced!
>>538131575most women are whores, and the good ones stay away from me.
>>538134991Reasoning? Is that why you voted to import a million rape apes because you reasoned and voted for it? Is that why trump bombed Iran or Biden imported 20 million subhumans because Americans reasoned for it etc etcNo, your owners did it because they could and you cant do shit, life's not fair
>>538135593Stop being a loser
>>538134197im not the guy that said for a handout i had a girlfriend and fucked you im saying what could be the potential solution low birth rates lies in artificial wombs in the future the'' earing of a wet hole'' is not seen as much of a priority because of such options.
>>538128434What happens when even teenagers have 4 kids at 18? How will the government make up for the massive loss in income?
>>538129104women initiate 80% of divorces and half of all marriages fail (often in under 10y)
>>538135745okay i might have made a mistake in 'fucked you know what im saying'' heh fuck this im never coming to this site again well im gone
>>538128361For thousands of years men have carried all the burdens of providing and everything that comes with civilization. Now it's women's time to pick up the slack and carry civilization forward.My plan is to be a neet and for women wagies to pay their fair share by providing for me and everybody else in society for the next six thousand years.It's time for men to sit back, relax and take it very easy for the next two thousand years at the very least. We earned it after all.
>>538128361hard to argue against that. also childless people should be allowed to vote. you basically have no stake in the future and can't be trusted to make long term decisions.
>>538128361There's already overpopulation. Having children should be concidered a crime and parents should be labeled enemy of the state, be hunted and punished by the law.So it's the opposite. Incels should be rewarded in opposite with those who give birth or actively try to get pregnant
>>538128361childless women should be sent to work camps until they gracelessly expire without a penny to their names.
>>538129208No because other people's children are the only thing keeping society functional, retard. That's the whole point.>>538128361>>538128434>>538128444>>538128468It's long past time people who have kids are treated as first class citizens, and those who don't are treated as the civilizational freeloaders they are. No one gives a fuck about your savings or your pension, because money itself has no value without the edifice of civilization in which to spend it, and there is no civilization without children. This board is mostly degenerate gamblers, vidya addicts and coomers who expect society to tolerate their bullshit ad infinitum. But what can't continue, won't.
White incels should be sent to work camps until they gracelessly expire without a penny to their names.
>crying internet man with daughters wants to oppress childless menI propose a solution.
>>538128444>saying retarded shitnotanargumenthere on /pol/ we only listen to arguments my newfag friend
>>538136770I wonder how long you'd have to think about OP to realize the policy would incentivize women to marry men (assuming I hadn't just pointed it out). I'm guessing never.
>>538128361wtf is he talking about?
>>538136770Seriously, daughtercucks the worst kind of men out there.
>>538137013Obviously, it won't apply to women, just men, because people like molymeme think men are the ones refusing to have kids.
>>538137052White incel losers aren't even men they are worms
>molymemeposting has returned
>>538134955The only sane comment here
>>538137153>think men are the ones refusing to have kidsYou aren't refusing to have kids you are such a worm no woman wants you near them
>>538137013>incentivize women to marry menlmaoGet a paternity test you braindead cuck, maybe you'll realize why gynocentric incentives have never worked. Which is why I immediately dismissed the notion as a possibility.
>>538128361Here's the retirement you have to look forward to. You deserve every second of it, and no your kids aren't going to take care of you lol.
>>538128361>omg I'm short and now I'm not allowed to retire!
>>538128361Because we get taxed to pay for the kids of retards who shouldn't have reproduced. I would be ok with this if they don't tax me at all.
>>538128361Stop posting this grifting faggot here and KYS. Yes, I know it's not an argument.
>>538137281Oh really? Go to any traditional religious mosque/temple/church. They all average 6+ kids each and often much more. Women do whatever the fuck their social circle praises. If you give people with many kids more social status, guess what women do, dipshit? They have kids. And before you say "they self select" no, they do not. The women who join these organizations see that women with large families are treated as royalty, they are put on a social pedestal, and this drives all the other women to make way more babies, which gives the other women even more baby fever, and you end up with huge happy families. I've seen it time and again with my own eyes. And that's how women work, they are social conformers. The entire question is actually "are incel faggots too stupid to implement policies that would actually make women want to pair with them?" If you're any indication then the answer is yes.
>>538128361But Stef... she's your mother...
>>538137473>Because we get taxed tWhy do you deserve a free ride?
>>538128361i've never in my life met a married man that wasn't a scumbag treacherous faggoteveryone i knew grewing up, who settled down and had kids, turned into a huge faggot - they just gave up.They will never do anything that will ever, even remotely, compromise their small hold of comfort for themselves and their stupid kids. They will ALWAYS do what the government tells them and they will NEVER question the jew. When it comes to it, they'll kill you too. All these shitheads ever did was provide meat to the machine. Growing up and waking up is realizing having children in this world, in the state its in, is the greatest possible sin. History is full of loser men who just 'gave up', had kids and kicked the can down the road because they didn't want to deal with the problems.
I get taxed to pay for the school they go to.
>>538128361He may have a point, but I don't have a wife. Therefore my hands are tied and I have no idea how it's my fault.
Oh I'm saving money? Where is it all? Should I really be going into debt by having kids?
>>538133045Bruv Hinduism has the highest income of any religion or sect in America next to Judaism
>>538137630Yes, the WOMEN are having those children. They do not need to get married to have children and someone to support them. And if they do get married, they don't have to have that husband's children to reap the benefits.You seem to genuinely believe you are smarter than you are.This is why you definitely, absolutely need to get paternity tests for your whore's children.
>>538128361Their taxes paid for schools and child welfare, which they didnt use. These fucking leftists are always trying to steal other peoples money, there is never enough for them.
>>538137970Being a scab won't make you happy
>>538136445Niggers already get hella gibbs for being SiNgLe PaReNts faggot.
>>538137851See>>538137013>>538137281Those of us who are married and have (or are planning to have) kids are trying to do the decent guys who want to have kids but can't find a woman a favor. A policy like OP would socially elevate marriage and commitment, which would mean stacies would be locking down chads for stability since child-rearing would be optimally started young (bigger families = more social status and benefits) and thus society would return to a more traditional view of promiscuity. This would massively elevate middle-tier men who are having trouble finding suitable women in the modern era. The problem is, these same men seem to be too stupid to realize this. Which is a bit ironic, in a darwinian way.
>>538137809When you get old and tired you will wish you had some kids. Its hard doing everything alone, and is really hard when you are old with no family left.
>>538138310what does this even mean mate? there are tons of studies on it, people without kids are about as happy as people with kids even into old age.
Im all for this but we all know this will ONLY be used to fuck men over. Women never get punished.
>>538128434Only for men. Then women would choose men who will be fathers instead of becoming single mothers
>>538135752Yes, the solution is nonstop immigration
>>538138334I think thats bullshit.
>>538128361thats backwards. i am losing a tremendous amount of money to taxes being single. i am subsidizing your retarded ass.
>>538128361Equal protection. My religion forbids me from bringing children into this demon sewer of a 21st century.
>>538128434Stop being antisemitic
>>538138310This is exactly what I'm talking about, you're all sick losers. You don't even know what the sanctity of life even means, you're not capable of understanding it, yet you have the means to produce it.You're evil, this world is incomprehensibly evil and I don't belong here. When I've gone, I'll have plenty of stories to tell.
>>538138436>my incel religion >>538138417Why should white incels get a free ride?
>>538138204Every single one of the women I referred to are and were married, and cheating is so rare among such circles it's literally unheard of. I really clocked you here >>538136445 didn't I -> degenerate coomers who expect society to tolerate their bullshit Marriage is the only thing that guarantees stability for the mother. It is the only thing that provides the adequate social shaming mechanism to keep women (and men) in line. Marriage provides maximal assurance for the woman to proceed with the irreversible act of creating and becoming responsible for new people. Without that assurance, women will avoid having children. The decline in fertility tracks the decline in marriage. Look at Japan, where TFR and marriage have a 1:1 correlation, as women have near-zero out of wedlock births.
>>538138385what you think isn't of much importancepsychologytoday com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201912/why-so-many-are-satisfied-being-childless-by-choiceof course, it won't matter what i send your way, you will still think something else or just call me a kike.having kids isn't for everyone, life can be good with and without kids mate, stop seeing life in black and white, almost everything is somewhere in between the two. there are many ways to live life, there is not one particular recipe that is for everyone - understanding that is part of maturing imo.
>>538138512did i say you could @ me you fucking pajeet?
>>538138551oh sweatyoh my sweet summer child
>>538138512Anyone with an IQ over 48 can see that the future is brown. It is immoral and inexcusable to force someone to come into this world at this late date.
>>538138676Then kys incel,,,,no one cares,,,,,but until then you will get taxed to oay for all the nicest things you consume
>>538128361Memeflag posters are fag postersYou'll never breed, troon
>>538138745Can't happen. Equal protection. Read the Constitution.
>>538128361Also Why should childless people get [insert here]??Bc as americans we are free God I hate rabbis like you so much its fuckin unreal
>>538134843If might makes right then fathers are the weakest of them all because you have something you care about losing Incels have always been the strongest men and the driving force behind Society
>>538138676White men with IQ of 1488 have it handled White man reaches for the starsBlack/brown man reaches for the gibs
>>538128434I kniw what your doing doing theirbanon... but remember niggers breed very prolifically. Even Adolf, with all his good intentions, wouldn't have been able to factor that into such a taxation policy.
>>538138837White people have two or three more generations max, and then they will be no longer, except for a few pockets of holdouts here and there on reservations.
>>538128361Who's gonna pay for the welfare for those children when they just can't find those jobs you were too lazy to find?While the Globalist whores say - keep workign so we can keep printing! And keep using that inovation you get from prosperity to invent and sell to them too.
>>538139116probably true. is is a huge problem for non-whites because they create nothing.
>>538139208Soon they won't even be able to read the books we wrote about what it was like before we went away. The browns will just have pictures that they will create myths about.
Office workers and people who don't have to work with their hands should get their retirement 15 years later than manual laborers, since manual labor slowly destroys your body which leaves you without an ability to earn a living. White collar workers can stay productive in an office well into their late 70's and even 80's.
>>538128361Says the fatso with no kids
>>538139445>>Office workers>>ProductiveThe office work is the welfare program. And the office workers are called consumers, not producers.
>>538136445>other people's children are the only thing keeping society functionalFuck this feminized, jewish and negrified society. If it doesn't owe me anything then I don't owe it anything, shit-for-brains.
>>538128361>why should you get to withdraw the money you depositedI remember steffy being pretty dim, but when did he get full blown brain damage?
>>538139857>If it doesn't owe me anything then I don't owe it anythingfunnily enough, this was the basis for all of stef's arguments 15 years back
>>538139907>but when did he get full blown brain damage?in the last 2-4 years. i don't think it's him aging, more just being around women all the time and having to battle truth vs their irrational behavior. also his daughter is becoming a young adult. and also he might be desperate for attention or something.
>>538139854It's 2026, space technology.The Jews are doing a dumb game where they pretend we don't know how to feed people or a ciivilization. 25,000 people. 24,000 food. Hunger is created! What do we dooooo?They're doing some sick, mentally sick fetishes that they picked up from being brought up in their culture. Work some jobs so they can go up to your face and smile at you. They wanna touch you! Like what the *. Anyway, horses ain't lazy because they don't got work. People ain't lazy because a Jew didn't create a job for them in a position of leadership. Sit on the throne, and you owe kharma for that throne. No lying God, monkey.
>>538128782that was their fucking stupid choice they made themselves.. let them work until 80 for pissing their money away on bratlets.
Maybe instead of getting mad at childless people for "Taking your taxes", you should ask why all your taxes go to Israel and shitskins on welfare.
>>538128361I’m gonna assume their argument would be they payed taxes for other people’s kids their whole life via property tax and others. American are Europe are shitholes that taxes people to death despite branding themselves as “capitalist, low-government intervention” countries. Meanwhile taxes in the 2nd and 3rd world are much cheaper and less confusing.
>>5381284340% for people with white children. Black and browns pay 100% income tax.
>>538128361Unmarried and childless people already get taxed more. Married get to pay less taxes and you get thousands off per dependent. Always claim your parents or grandparents.
>>538128434No taxes is not enough. If you are generational (10 generations deep) you should get extra, not get less for tolerating NEWER strangers.
>>538138551>Marriage is the only thing that guarantees stability for the mother. It is the only thing that provides the adequate social shaming mechanism to keep women (and men) in line.Most Western males don't have a problem with marriage. It's the males who want to experience the catharsis and meaning of being in a marriage that lasts for life. The women seem rather indifferent about all of that, where their personal freedoms are concerned. That being said, men have a problem with no fault divorce. They have a problem with courts being weaponised against them, resulting in biased and unfair representation. True equality would be fine, but we don't have that.
>>538139857>If it doesn't owe me anythingYou are unbelievably pampered and spoiled, but you will find out.The magnitude of the coming social crisis will be unlike anything anyone living has ever seen. The disruption of AI coupled with emerging robotics at a time when the stock market is priced for perfection coupled with the cost of living crisis coupled with the decline in fertility -- are going to cause a financial crisis like you have never seen nor likely ever will see again.Your smug attitude towards these problems belies a lack of both sophistication and maturity; but I needn't worry about a winning rejoinder, as the calamity will see to your comeuppance more than I'd even wish.
>>538140242See>>538137013>>538137630>>538138300
>>538128361Why should philosophers be paid, Stefan?
>>538140285>You are unbelievably pampered and spoiled, but you will find out.>asking for something in return is being spoiledcome again?
>>538140285>>538140337>You are unbelievably pampered and spoiled, but you will find out.No, what you are going to "find out" is that you actually need these so-called second class "civilizational freeloaders" to uphold their Good Samaritan impulse on the local level and render assistance to those who might need it, should it be needed. This whole situation is far more tenuous than your sweeping dismissals are taking into account. I'm sure it feels good to ebin dunk on all these cringe childless people, but you still reply on their practical goodwill in very serious ways.
>>538128434yeah and do that with housing like the Nazi's did
>>538140544>Those of us who are married and have (or are planning to have) kids are trying to do the decent guys who want to have kids but can't find a woman a favor. A policy like OP would socially elevate marriage and commitment, which would mean stacies would be locking down chads for stability since child-rearing would be optimally started young (bigger families = more social status and benefits) and thus society would return to a more traditional view of promiscuity. This would massively elevate middle-tier men who are having trouble finding suitable women in the modern era. The problem is, these same men seem to be too stupid to realize this. Which is a bit ironic, in a darwinian way.What part of that confused you?
>>538128361Because childless people also work and pay into this country dumb fucking bitch.
>>538128361>>538140678I'm sorry for my mean words.
Dude, I am 33 soon, you cannot expect me to do that at my age. Just be glad I am making good money and don't rely on the damn state. The average age gap is 2-3 years that leaves me with a 30yo. Are you crazy? I dont want to marry some busted whore. Leave me alone ffs lol. Isnt he libertarian? Then he should get I dont want to be married to some busted whore> but you will die aloneMaybe I see no company are preferential to bad one?
>>538140773>Isnt he libertarian?he's really nothing anymore, he just spews random opinions and scolds people who don't agree with him or who challenge him.
>>538128361He's right.
>>538138799Incels aren't men they are worms yall afraid to talk to women
The next malformed spermoid autist that reposts nonsensical twitter shit is gonna catch these hands istg.What the hell happened to this board? Why do you bring this bullshit here? Oh fuck it, give me your address so I can roll up and pop ya in the mouth for this faggot'y shite.
>>538128871It's a biological instinct. If you don't have that then there's something wrong with you.
>>538130418lol nobody thinks Italy is ok, we are living a dramatic demographic spiral whose effects are already visible. this year there were like 500k students who graduated high school but only 250k new birth. this means in 18 years there will be half the high school graduates unless people born abroad would come here
>why should people recover their tax monies after working their entire livesSome of you are too stupid to live.
>>538128434Isn’t this what Hitler did but also gave a free home for 4 kids
>>538128361fuck youmake me tax exempt from paying for schools then
>>538140629>stacies would be locking down chads for stabilityStacies can't lock chads down. That's precisely why so many are making crying tiktok videos in their car and saying all men are trash. Women gatekeep sex, but men gatekeep commitment, and these Chads have been handed total social power by these women - why would they give that up? Best case scenario theChads will have fun with Stacy, and then get hitched to a younger version of her when he's had his fun, which still leaves a whole wave of miserable overlooked women.Anyway, this is all pie in the sky theorycel shit. Policies won't play out like this irl. It'll be shifting tribalism and chaos.
>>538140810>he's really nothing anymore, he just spews random opinions and scolds people who don't agree with him or who challenge him.What an annoying faggot. I would have been open for a relationship 10 years ago. Now not anymore. Why? Because I am financially successful now and being with me is zero struggle for a woman. Meanwhile all I get is her with all her issues, age and a high bodycount. I rather am with nobody than doing that. Imho past a certain age, probably about 30 marriage is just a scam to me to con men. No, I am not ugly nor a loser financially. In fact I live in a very pricey apartment. I just think that I missed the boat and refuse to cope.
>>538128434Hitler did this so it’s automatically evil and we can never even think to do it again
>>538140955We're going to revert to tribalism where only men have a say, just like it used to be, women won't be given a choice.
>>538140838> It's a biological instinct. If you don't have that then there's something wrong with you.I just think about things rationally and at soon 33 the prospect of being married to a hag seems daunting. Having children is less important to me than my dignity. Primarily, I am concerned with my self-respect. I couldnt live with going to work every day for a busted whore. German women start fucking around at 14 and you expect me to put a ring on that? How delusional are you?
>>538140973>I would have been open for a relationship 10 years ago. Now not anymore. Why? Because I am financially successful now and being with me is zero struggle for a woman. Meanwhile all I get is her with all her issues, age and a high bodycount. I rather am with nobody than doing that. Imho past a certain age, probably about 30 marriage is just a scam to me to con men. No, I am not ugly nor a loser financially. In fact I live in a very pricey apartment. I just think that I missed the boat and refuse to cope.hey man, we're in the same boat. i'm almost 40 now, at 31 i sold a company and havent had a job since, just consultancy here and there to have something to do.i'm in the same place; 10 years ago i was open, now i basically miss sex here and there (no prostitutes for me at least yet), but i just can't be bothered to have a gf. i've had 4-5 gfs and slept with approx 15 women in my life, i'm average looking. i don't know why i'd pick one up, even at 25 they are pretty used up with a baggage of crap. and at 20 they're basically retarded and can't be wifed anyway in today's society. i'll just be on my own, it's the best i can do. best of luck to you anon.
>>538141094>>538141095also big agree on marriage basically being impossible to setup after 30 years of age unless you're willing to absolutely cuck yourself as a man.
>>538141094I want children and if a woman isn't going to get with me soon I'm going to have to find one and forcibly impregnate her.
>>538140955Because if he's a high-value man then he wants his taxes reduced, which means he needs kids, which requires a woman, and high value women want the assurance of marriage before they create new people.QED
>>538141113If you weren't a loser you could marry a 20 yearold
>>538141179>if he's a high-value man then he wants his taxes reducednon sequitur
ok, but why not discuss pussy distributism
>>538141210i still can mate, i just don't want to. i had a 19yo gf at 34 but dumped her because i just can't put up with all the retarded shit women do, it was my last attempt to put up with holes. it's not worth it for me, i just want peace and quiet.
>>538141095>>538141113I am the typical guy from next-door. 1.88m tall, 80kg, very good apartment, a nice Audi. Haven't dated since covid as I dont see the purpose in it anymore. Society feels alien to me. A friend of mine pushes foreign women on me but I am not really feeling it.>>538141129Don't want to land in prison, have a high income and actually lead a pretty great life, believe it or not. One would almost say I am enviable
>>538141210>If you weren't a loser you could marry a 20 yearoldMost people I meet are my age. I would need to go out of my way to do it and German society sees that behavior as pedophile-adjacent. >>538141225> pussy distributismHell no, any woman who got entry into my life would seriously benefit from that while I most likely would get some loser. As I said, especially if you're doing better than average pairing up becomes nearly impossible provided you have self-respect.
>>538141266i totally get that. i have a house, apartment and have brand new car. i think i could probably pull some girls if i wanted to, but i'm just not feeling it either. like, what's actually in it for me? i'll get some girl whom i constantly have to prove myself to, put up with some ridiculous shit testing or irrational/psychotic behavior, knowing that she's had sex with a ton of guys before me who've caused psychological damage that i have to put up with, and then what? she'll just cost me energy, time and money and what do i get back? kids aren't that interesting to me. if i absolutely wanted kids, maybe i'd do it. but i'm fine without it. how old are you anyway?
>>538141095>>538140973This is what passports are for (although that doesn't erase the risk of getting divorce raped).You absolutely can find decent looking women without high bodycounts, just not in the west kek
>>538128980it's both, men and women should get together and have children.Stop all escapism and do this
>>538141260Then why cry about it you seem like you are trying to convince yourself ending your bloodline was smart
>>538128361This guy had 1 child. While swimming in money. His opinions about children would hold more weight if he had like 10. He could afford it. But nah, it's just the 1. Fuck off Stefan
>>538140521Apparently we're just supposed to just shut up and pay for other people's children even if we gain nothing from this dogshit society because their children are the future of this dogshit society.
>>538141397where did you see me crying about anything mate?
>>538141349> she's had sex with a ton of guys before me who've caused psychological damage that i have to put up with, and then whatNot just that, they also dont look good anymore. I feel like German women want to play the field till their looks fall apart and then are "ready for marriage". Yeah, well I am not ready for it anymore.> kids aren't that interesting to me. if i absolutely wanted kids, maybe i'd do itMaybe I would look into surrogacy at some point. But at the same time I feel like its a bunch of work and currently I wouldnt do it. Maybe if I am bored at 50-60 or so>but i'm fine without it. how old are you anyway?Soon to be 33>>538141383A friend of mine is looking at women from the middle east but honestly it feels cucked too. Their men rape the woman from here in the streets and me despite being taller, better looking and overall simply a better man should pay for having my offspring in the next generation look like one of them? This is just bizarre of an idea to me. Granted the woman he is aiming for in Morocco look good but I would be afraid of having some aggressive manlet as a son.
>>538141532thanks for sharing your story anon. wishing you all the best.
>>538141434Every single post you are crying like a sadsack>now i basically miss sex here and there (no prostitutes for me at least yet), but i just can't be bothered to have a gf. i've had 4-5 gfs and slept with approx 15 women in my life, i'm average looking. i don't know why i'd pick one up, even at 25 they are pretty used up with a baggage of crap. and at 20 they're basically retarded and can't be wifed anyway in today's society. i'll just be on my own, it's the best i can do. best of luck to you anon.
>>538138310If I have money I can pay for comfort myself, simp cuck.
>>538141564I just believe that women in Nordic countries vastly overplayed their hand and I know a bunch of guys similar to myself, all relatively good-looking and successful who wont have it anymore because they feel getting ripped off.
>>538128361Haha I saved so much money hahaha
>>538141593lol, what country are you from? i'm saying i'm happy the way things are but i miss sex now and then, but i don't want to go to prostitutes. are you trolling or just stupid?
>>538140838he is right>>538141094you were not able to secure a marriage with a high school sweetheart, if you ever had one. now you are blaming women for yours and your generation failure to give them a marriage and a stable yet exciting (at least not boring) lifeyou and >>538141113 say it is impossible to settle after 30 but really it is the right age, maybe slightly before that: at 25 you don't have the maturity (in the western world) to keep a marriage. 28-35 is the best age to settle and have kids. also >self-respecthow can you have self respect with no kids? you are basically a "strong independent woman"
>>538141661If you ever feel lonely, you're in bad company, son.
>>538141647oh yeah all my friends are basically set up like me, except two who are married, but one of them is getting a divorce and the other is justa ccepting of how stupid his woman is. there's literally no going back to something workable until society collapses. we won't have a smooth back-to-normal from here.
>>538128361If you have children you’re a goy slave.
>>538141716>>538141647I worked in Nordic countries and it is right, your women have some issues, but not nearly as much as Nordic men. if your women are like this it means the society is like this and society is run by men.
>>538128361There's a part of society so ready to label the other and then enact some remedy. It's no different than DEI. It's all so niggerfaggot coded, and you, OP, by the very nature of this post, show exactly why we are surrounded by so many fucking faggots. To say nothing of THIS being moot when the Republic dissolves.
>>538140838It’s a biological instinct that the world is gonna end soon. I will not make more slaves for the Jews.
>>538140838Its my biological instinct to bash nigger heads in but I don’t do that or I go to jail
>>538128361The Jewish are blackholed. Life Over.
>>538141678> you were not able to secure a marriage with a high school sweetheart, if you ever had one. now you are blaming women for yours and your generation failure to give them a marriage and a stable yet exciting (at least not boring) lifeNot really blaming, they are free to choose and so am I. They just need to be aware that at some point its better for men not to do it. And I feel like at my age that is the case.>how can you have self respect with no kids? you are basically a "strong independent woman"I never settled for bad things. Dating now feels like being exit liquidity to an IPO. Refusing options feels right to me.
>>538138447By the time they grow up and figure it out it will be too late to do anything about it.
>>538141179You're still not understanding: women lack the ability to self-govern their infatuations. When they see a Chad they want, they have a very difficult time telling themselves "no". This is also when intrasexual competition kicks in, and if she tells herself no, then some other woman gets to have fun with him, and 'why should THAT bitch get to win?' etc. The Chads understand this. They understand how much social power they've been given by Stacy's inability to say no to them. Unless they are browbeaten by policy and forced into it, they WILL spend extra years having non-committal fun with women, because pussy > paying tax (at least for a couple decades), then they'll settle down with some younger woman when they're ready. But there will be a good stretch of time for almost all of these Chads where they won't give a fuck about the extra taxes because they're looking at a veritable sea of pussy awaiting them on the other shore if they ignore the tax thing for a while.
>>538141678Self-respect would be derived from destroying the fucked up system we live in. Having kids in this retarded slave world prison planet is simply evil.
>>538141716Why do you have 23 posts in an incel thread,,,,,,im here to mock incel crybabies what are you doing?
>>538141855Why do you have 20 posts in an incel thread? You a faggot little cucked bitch of an incel or what, nigger?
>>538140838>It's a biological instinct.this is a common misconception. the biological instinct is population level not individual level, meaning there is a drive on a biological level for a population to procreate, but not for every single individual. this can even be seen in nature where some spcies have a pretty obvious concept of alpha and beta males, with alphas having a strong drive to procrate but not caring for offspring, and beta males who don't have a biological drive to procreate but to care for others' offspring. of course, in reality, and especially with humans, it's way more complex than that. but the point holds true; a biological drive to procreate only definitely exists at the population level, not individual level (only some portion of individuals)
>>538141855because i listened to stef for almost 10 years, from like 2007 to 2016 or something, and the thread started with him which i found interseting. your reason for posting here is even more retarded than mine so maybe you should bother someone else for a bit?
>>538141853I dont mind children but I do mind the idea of being settled for since at this point it feels more like I am the one settling here. Frequently women my age give me signals but its not for me. Usually they get passive-aggressive then and that's it.>>538141930Dont mind children but if the price is selling out on my own self-respect the answer is clearly a resounding no.
>>538141833I am sorry if you had bad experience but your mindset is literally the same as women who would refuse a man that is not tall, rich, jacked, emotionally intelligent and all that crap. society goes on by settling for an acceptable compromise, not to have the absolute best.still hope you will find the right person. your friend looking out of Germany for foreign women may be right>>538141853this is pure cope. you won't save this alone, you need strong bonds. all revolutions had a strong youth and strong links. >>538141930is it you admitting you are a beta male or is it just cope?>>538141987go for younger women then
>>538132447ONEFUCKINGDAUGHTER
>>538141970Wrong, the only cure for white incel losers is mockery
>>538142041>is it you admitting you are a beta male or is it just cope?neither mate, i'll gladly discuss but let's keep it serious.
>>538142069>the only cure for white incel losers is mockeryhow does it cure incels to mock them?
If you wanted people to have kids you shouldn’t have been so Jewish about it. Enough said.
>>538142107They stop acting like worms and become men
>>538142069>>538142167Why 22 posts in an incel thread, incel?
>>538142041> refuse a man that is not tall, rich, jacked, emotionally intelligent and all that crapI am tall (1.88m), relatively wealthy, relatively fit, emotionally intelligent idk. > society goes on by settling for an acceptable compromise, not to have the absolute bestI dont care about society going on. It doesnt mean shit to me. The way I see it women win if I settle for them at an advanced age so I rather choose not to play.> your friend looking out of Germany for foreign women may be rightJust feels like another humiliation ritual to me. I am supposed to have children with a woman from a country where these rapeapes come from? Sounds like losing too.> go for younger women thenSounds forced and people probably bad-mouth one for it. Also it probably is very hard. According to stats only 8% of couples have an age gap of 10 or more years. That is not a whole lot
>>538142238>. Also it probably is very hardas i said earlier in this thread i had a 19yo gf when i was 34. no one thought much of it to my knowledge, but 19 year olds are really something else man, they are positively retarded. i think the only winning move is to marry before age 25 to a women 18-22 something who grew up in a good family. if you don't hit that mark, you're out. especially when you become successful, it's nigh impossible without moving yourself to a worse position than you were already in. hence the rational move is just to be alone or not to play.
>>538128434>>538128361Childless people are subhuman paypigs who exist only to support families via taxation.Well we do get property tax discounts for kids. 90% off for having 4 kids. Free college and Healthcare. Free childcare.It's pretty nice ngl.
>>538142238Then cry in your basement incel,,,,,you only cry here because you want a man to fix your problems
>>538142107I am not seeing how that shoe fits, I relatively frequently have women trying to get with me. They are all my age though and hence it is rather a no for me. What makes it worse is that they often react very bitter afterwards, almost as if this is happening a lot to them. Overall the reality is that I am not suffering from loneliness since I have both friends and hobbies, it really makes it easy to reject unfavorable offers.>>538142323Where I live nobody marries in their mid 20s basically. Usually it is some balding guy mid 30s with an early 30s woman who marries here. I have a friend who falls into that category, was invited to the event and it was absolute hell. They even look like bugmen. Dont like to badmouth people but he does fall into that category too. Especially if all these people gang up on you and ask you what you are doing it is 10/10 uncomfortable. What are you supposed to say then> I really think he did make a grave mistake by marrying your busted ass and I would rather eat glass than doing the same>>538142467Incel means involuntary celibate. I havent dated since covid by free choice and rejected numerous advances which felt detrimental to my long-term interest.
>>538138676>the future is brown.Future? America is the economic, military, and cultural ruling power and is browner than shit.
>>538142537>I have both friends and hobbies, it really makes it easy to reject unfavorable offers.same. also it didn't fit, the age gap was a problem.>>538142537>Where I live nobody marries in their mid 20s basically.it's the same here, i'm talking about what's ideal. just be happy with your setup. you probably feel there's a scratch to itch but that's the cost of going your own way, you can't have it all.
>>538128361Yeah children shouldn't be taxed to pay for old people.Old people shouldn't be taxed to pay for other people's children.You chose to have children, I didn't.I don't even want to be associated with you or your children, Taxes are theft using violence.Stef has become a statist boomer.What a tard.
>>538128361Engagement bait.You are entitled to what you pay in and the interest that accrued. This guy must be desperate for attention, I’d pay him a dollar to fuck off.
>>538142678> the age gap was a problem> just be happy with your setup. you probably feel there's a scratch to itch but that's the cost of going your own way, you can't have it all.So what is it all good for then? What have I even worked for or towards? I am 100% not giving in to marrying a hag, that is for dead-sure at the same time I dont feel a younger woman is either realistic nor am I even sure if I want that.
>>538135752>How will the government make up for the massive loss in income?By executing the whole family.
>>538128361Its pretty based.
>>538128672>save up moneyBwahahahahaahahahaha you don't understand how the game works.
>>538129208This
>>538142785>So what is it all good for then? What have I even worked for or towardsi dunno mate, i couldn't tell you what ought to make you happy. your question is kinda legit though, the incentives for working hard aren't there, that's why you see a huge portion of men becoming fat blobs playing video games all day. there's no good reason to work hard anymore. 50 years ago you'd marry a true trad virgin, build a house, build a home, be her leader and so on, i guess men felt that was worth something.
>>538128361If I had kids I just would have abused them and left them in hot cars. It's for the best
>>538128782>>538129191That money from your pay is paying for current retirees. In order to pay for your retirement you need future children to pay for your benefits. That is the way most public pension plans are currently structured. If you have zero kids, you should not be entitled to public pensions, as you have no contributed to the pool of people to pay for your benefits. It’s that simple, and Molymeme is unironically correct. All the seething childless weirdos in this thread only further prove his point.
>>538128361i agree, im going to an hero before i retire, fuck living like that.
>>538142323>he had a 19 year old Swedish gf and dumped herGayest dumb retard cuckold award winner gold medalist found - "shockingly", a Swede.
>faggots with no self control who pop out 10 kids demand you pay extra taxes for their little shits who will contribute nothing to society until they are at least 18 years old
>>538142774>You are entitled to what you pay in and the interest that accruedJewIt's a ponzi scheme lottery system. I'm entitled to infinite money for as long as I live - because of all the people who paid in and died young.That's the point - pension for old people, mostly women.
>>538143052>faggots who had no kids at all demand that the kids of people who did pay for their social security benefitsGo fuck yourself.
>>538139029>Even Adolf, with all his good intentions, wouldn't have been able to factor that into such a taxation policy.Untrue, he had also sterilized the negro rape babies that the French had left behind. Not that niggers would benefit from a 0% tax rate. Since they produce no value, they have no income. Aside from selling drugs, which is a crime and thus not taxable. It would certainly be an improvement over the status quo.
>>538128361Didnt stefan have a mental breakdown
>>538142881No idea, all I know is that I wont yield to the hags and boomers wanting me to marry their ruined spawn. It is a fate worse than death or not having children, by far so. In general the whole children thing doesnt matter to me that much>>538143020Then you dont get that there is more to it than looks. I am 33, I dont want to be with someone who is in school. At the same time I also dont want to be with a busted 30yo visibly past her prime looking to settle.
>>538143153* about to be 33
>>538143052I love living in a nationalist ethnostate.Nobody thinks like you - and if they do they keep their dumb jewish literal childless fag opinions to themselves.Government is always rolling out more support for families.
>>538128361Some financial incentives wouldn't be amiss, but it's mostly a cultural problem.
>>538143153>No idea, all I know is that I wont yield to the hags and boomers wanting me to marry their ruined spawn. It is a fate worse than death or not having children, by far so. In general the whole children thing doesnt matter to me that muchi'm 100% with you on this
>>538128434That's fair.
>>538143096>>538143230"waaahhhhhh how dare you not pay for my children!"fuck off commies
>>538128434This sounds smart until you realize all that will just happen is a tax hike in other taxes (e.g. social security, VAT, etc). You WILL end up paying the same amount either way. You'd need to massively reduce the size of the state. Good luck with that
>>538128434>large families which use up more public resources should pay less taxesLOL fucking retards
>>538143306It’s my children paying for your retirement faggot.
>>538143287Settling for a woman in her 30s is the worst fate of all, really pity any guy feeling so alone or needy doing that. Any civilization that is hoping for that to happen should really cease to exist anyway. I am considering to maybe get a surrogate in my 50s or 60s. The 150k cost doesnt worry me, by then my portfolio will probably be in the 2-3 million range and it wouldnt bother me then at all.
>>538143475nobody is paying for my retirement except me, you fucking idiot, why do you think almost half our wages are taken from us?
>>538143437I wonder which costs the taxpayer more: 10 orphans or 10 children who live with their families. Hmmmmm. This is a tough one.....
>>538143583those 10 kids in the family means they use more water, more electricity, more school buses on the roads, more school taxes, shall I go on?
>>538143574>nobody is paying for my retirement except me, you fucking idiot, why do you think almost half our wages are taken from us?Holy fuck bud that is not how that works. You are paying for the people who are retired right now. Not your own retirement. Your retirement will be paid for by the people who are working when you are retired. So if you did not have kids, it will be someone else's children.
>>538143697it doesn't matter if you have 25 kids, that is just 25 parasites that cannot work or contribute to society for 18 years, so good job that has fuck all to do with anyones retirement
>>538143491i might consider surrogate by then as well, marriage/relationship just isn't for me.
>>538143690Are you saying that wards of the state do not use these amenities as well? Because they do, and more. On taxpayers dollar. You're obviously trolling, there's no way you are this dumb.
>>538143769I curse having been born in this country.
>>538143811entire eu is fucked since 2015 mate, there's nothing we can do. sweden is absolutely rekt with niggers literally everywhere, even the average woman today is mostly unapproachable (when she wants to find osmoeone, she pulls up tinder, and thus doesn't want to be approached outside of tinder)
>>538143795except those 10 kids use those resources AND they pay no taxes
>>538143491>50s or 60s.Put some swimmers on ice if you plan on waiting that long. Most guys are sterile at that age.
>>538143889Your mind is a prison and I feel pity for you... good day sir.
>>538143866Yeah, its that kind of woman that I am actively wanting to avoid. I dont get why anyone would want to be with that. Must be a hellish life>>538143917Why not, I think I dont want to miss out on the experience but marriage is off the table
>>538144048>Yeah, its that kind of woman that I am actively wanting to avoid. I dont get why anyone would want to be with that. Must be a hellish lifefor some losers it's better than being alone, and for some chads it's enough to have a good time for a weekend. for those of us more rational, it's a dead-end.
>>538128361why should people with children get retirement benefits?their children are a massive benefit/assetbut they also get to double dip on retirementsee two can play that game faggot
>>538144093> chadNever have gotten that meme, I am tall and relatively good-looking, still I wouldnt want to do it. Imagine getting a std or trouble with rape accusations just because you picked up some mid leftist you're probably not even attracted to. Most women have almost zero power power me for the simple reason I dont find them attractive. In fact they repulse me. It is almost automatic to say no to them. The only women I consider desirable are those from old 70s, 80s and 90s shows.
>>538140838Its a biological instinct for me to cum in random women without wanting to be a dad
>>538144109i could also suggest the parents are parasiticin that their children are essentiallyin a socially created environmentso essentially my taxes as a single working personpay for breeders to breedtherefore breeders are parasiticmolymeme fucked himself with this one
>>538144185you're probably more intelligent than the average chad mate, that's put you in a different category.>The only women I consider desirable are those from old 70s, 80s and 90s shows.you can go back even to early 2010s and women were a wholly different kind of creature. soft, nice, submissive. i guess the incentives were still there. go watch a movie from 2007 and see how different women act, look, behave, move and so on.
>>538144253Yeah but they even look gross now. Here what a German woman looks like in her 30s these days. Eww. Maybe I should consider going abroad just to see what walks around there.
>>538143153>there is more to it than looks.There isn't.All women are the same.Except some look better than others.Looksmaxxing is, was, and will always be the meta.Better looking wife = better looking kids. And she's more pleasant to look at.That's all that matters.
>>538144321i guess you could. i'm not attracted to non-europeans so that's out for me. there are some beautiful japanese girls but the difference is too big and i couldn't be intimate with something so different.
>>538144093>rational>I'm TOO SMART to put my penis in a vagina and make a babyAh yes, many such cases here on pol among the euro cuck contingent.Next tell us how everyone wanted you to believe in God but you OUTSMARTED them.
>>538144434>by dumbing down others' arguments to something they didn't even say, i can pretend i am making relevant pointsgood luck anon
>>538144043>the leaf doesn't understand taxesunderstandable since all your taxes go to indians and you just slurp COVID vaccines all day
>>538128468No man should be responsible in any way for another man's child and paternity tests should be mandatory. Also only virgins should get to be wives. "Chad" can have his harem of roastie concubines so long as no other man bears any sort of responsibility for his offspring or women
>>538143756You have no clue how social security works, do you? That’s fine but there’s no point discussing anything with you until you do.
>>538129855Unironically he would be an incel if he was a zoomer
>>538128361nice try faggot. married people with kids gets way more of my tax dollars than most normal people. you exist for government handouts.
