Republicans: wah, wah, le illegals are depressing wagesAlso Republicans: fuck minimum wage, it doesn't need to be raised
>>538131101You might be retarded...
>>538131101> How does the free market workDon't flood the market with cheap labor and labor won't be cheap.
>>538131144Which one is it? They whine about the illegals supposedly depressing wages, but tell Americans to fuck off if they want to get paid more.They will hire spics to slave in their meat processing plants but then bitch about muh illegals.
>>538131101People hire illegals because minimum wage is too high. Lower the wages and they wouldn't have to.
>>538131214By this logic, Boomers need to be liquidated then
>>538131101The majority of people working for minimum wage are third world serfs. Why would we want to give them more money?
>>538131310>People hire illegals because minimum wage is too high. Lower the wages and they wouldn't have to.LOLOLOL. Just the opposite. And no, except if you live in rural California or Washington, no one anywhere can live off minimum wage (if renting)
>>538131464>The majority of people working for minimum wage are third world serfs.Most are Cletus from Mississippi who's never seen a Spic before.The "3rd world serfs" are working under the table (no minimum wage because not a formal job) OR working in a cushy office job like jeets
>>538131613You’re incorrect.
>>538131674>You’re incorrectLol. I see very very few Spics here. It's all whiteys working for $9/hour. Even in areas with high minimum wage, the supposed "3rd worlders" are also paid the same amount as a white person there working at Dollar Tree.
>>538131214>How does the free market workit doesn’t
>>538131852>anecdote Lmao you’re one of these low iq third worlders, ain’t ya?Third worlders wouldn’t be begging for welfare if they weren’t working for minimum wage.
>>538131674>>538131852Doesn't make any sense either:>Minimum wage requires formal job>Formal job requires either to be a citizen/resident or a work visa>Work visa requires proof that you could not find an American for the job and that you are paying way above the average rate>Sure it's possible to game the system like with IT jeets, but very few businesses are going to go through with the cost and hassle of getting a foreigner for a fucking cashier job
>>538132081> Formal job requires either to be a citizen/residentLmao you’re legitimately a retard. Next you’re going to say migrants don’t get welfare.
>>538131968>Third worlders wouldn’t be begging for welfare if they weren’t working for minimum wage.If you know anything about anything, you'd know the more you earn, the less welfare/gibs you get. Let's say if illegals could collect welfare (I know some do, but it's not a high amount like Republicans make you think), it would be BEST if you worked as little as possible or worked the bare minimum, and work under the table...
>>538132196> you'd know the more you earn, the less welfare/gibs you get.If you’re making minimum wage, you will always qualify for maximum gibs. You people are so ignorant of the world.
>>538132196Also, pretty much every person who jumped the border under Biden is receiving some form of welfare. They loopholed them all in as asylum seekers, which grants them access to things like section 8 housing.
>>538132223>If you’re making minimum wage, you will always qualify for maximum gibsYou don't unless you're working 5 hours a week.
>>538132281Incorrect. Why even post if you don’t know what you’re talking about?
>>538131214>free market workkike psyop
>>538131101I have yet to see anyone paid just federal minimum wage after being competent at work for more than a few weeks. Illegals are depressing wages because the fucking morons that hired them don't have to really treat them right because they're off the fucking books. They don't even have to pay them minimum wages, hell they can just be a dick and report them to ICE when the job is done.
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>>538132281>>538132298
>>538131214Okay then ban corporations importing cheap labor?>NO that's big gubment regulation of the free market you commie!It's not true anyway even without all of the imported workers, back in the good old days there were constant outbreaks of violence between unions and the businesses, miners and such. That was when the US was over 90% white.
>>538132406Lmao you don’t even know how gibs are calculated, do you? It changes based on location. If you make below the average wage of an area, you qualify for gibs like section 8. If you’re in the lowest income bracket, you qualify for healthcare and snaps.
>>538132441https://www.hacla.org/en/about-section-8/income-limit>$35000Snaps is determined using the same calculations.
>>538132442I keep saying this, but the Spics are the scapegoats. They're blaming everything on muh illegals while telling young Americans "Sorry, we're not going to build more housing because that would lower housing prices"
>>538132687Why does it matter what you say? You don’t even know how gibs work in this country.
>>538131101>Why are Republicans like thisi dunno it's a mystery
>>538131101Low-end middle american goyim are retarded and lack critical thinking skills, so conservatives who actually wield and exercise power and who aren't actually retarded can tell them literally anything and they'll believe and the guys at the top laugh all the way to the bank.Imagine unironically thinking a party of corporate farmers, business owners, and landlords wants less labor with more rights and downward pressure on rents and housing stock.lololololololIt's hard to believe people that stupid exist, but they do.
>>538132845American right wing working class have been voting away policy that benefits them since McCarthy era policy prioritized emotional nationalism over critical thinking skills in education. Reagan and Bush decided conservatives weren't stupid enough already, so they made detrimental changes to education. With all of this context, Trump being the president right now makes perfect sense.
>>538131101>e illegals are depressing wagesVERY TRUE.
>>538132734>You don’t even know how gibs work in this country.My uncle was making $11/hour and they gave him $70/month in Food Stamps.
>>538133086This image is fake, btw. These numbers were from a shitty Netherlands study, and Trump didn't even make this post. It's a photoshop.
>>538133150>anecdotes Lmao. Food stamps are for families. You people are so uneducated it’s actually insane.
>>538133188>the study was shitty! Maximum cope.
>>538131101leftists trending higher
>>538131101I don't understand. Just raise it to $100 so people can afford decent things.
>>538133206Fuck off
>>538133206>Food stamps are for familiesSo if you're a single male, you're fucked right? Maybe you should be talking about the gibs American females get instead of illegals that can't even get food stamps
>>538133333You’re crying.
>>538133371Illegals have families (or at least they make such claims), so they get more food stamps. Their gibs are also primarily in section 8 housing and Medicaid.
>>538133244It was shitty, yeah. The original Dutch report the numbers are pulled from was universally criticized by economists for flawed methodology, like front-loading integration costs, ignoring the long-term macroeconomic benefits of labor, failing to account for the aging native population, etc.
>>538131101eat shit kike
>>538133461>long-term macroeconomic benefits of laborgood goy
>>538131341Boomers are retiring and going on welfare now.
>>538133331>Just raise it to $100I know you're being satirical, but I think a federal minimum wage of about $16/hour should be good. In reality, it should be about $22/hour when you figure in the real cost of living and not the CPI, but that's too much, even if that's what the Boomers got in equivalent.
>>538133461You’re coping. No western nation has been able to prove that these immigrants are anything but a drain on social funds.
>>538133086>>538133188>>538133244The biggest problem with the study is that it assumes the government needs money from workers before it can spend. But it doesn't -- it creates the money.
>>538133506Again, why should we mandate that immigrants be paid more?
>>538133497No argument?>>538133510> No western nation has been able to prove that these immigrants are anything but a drain on social funds.Now that's an easily disprovable lie.
>>538133426>Illegals have familiesIf it's that easyz then I should be able to claim such bullshit and get massive gibs.
>>538133543It doesn’t create money. It takes out a loan that must be paid in the future. You people are genuinely illiterate. >>538133565Ok prove me wrong.
>>538133633You’re presumably a white American so you’ll be investigated thoroughly before being approved.
>>538131101Democrats want endless foreign workers as slave labor while claiming to want to raise wages.Republicans fuck American workers every chance they get unless it's an election year while not deporting enough foreigners to make a difference demographically.It's almost like we need a party for workers. Maybe a patriotic workers party.. No, a Nationalist workers party. Yeah, that sounds good.
>>538133636>It doesn’t create money. It takes out a loan that must be paid in the future. You people are genuinely illiterate.Who is the government borrowing its own currency from? How did this entity come across the currency first? Because that entity needs currency to buy a government bond in the first place -- so the currency needs to exist first.The government is not borrowing money. They tell you its borrowing money, but that is not what is happening.Congress spends to a deficit. By identity they have created reserves in the banking system in the amount of that deficit. If reserves pile up in the banking system it drives the overnight interest down -- potentially to zero. So bonds are sold to drain excess reserves in support of an interest rate target.
>>538133636>Ok prove me wrong.Aggregate data consistently shows the fiscal impact of immigrants is positive or neutral. They are overrepresented in the prime working-age population, which broadens the tax base and offsets the social funding costs of aging native demographics
>>538133544Lol. Spics live in largely liberal states where the minimum wage is higher than $12/hour>Non-hispanic white workers make up 52% of all workers making $15/hour or less>The non-hispanic white population is 56%
>>538133510>immigrants are anything but a drain on social funds...Take 20 billion from the public purse then say you spent it all on the immigrants but really you only spent 10 billion on the immigrants the other 10 billion gets ROBBED BY YOUR OWN POLITICIANS,,,A FACT to what's going on..You say where is all our money they say we spent it on immigrants and you are not RACIST are you because we are helping poor non native immigrants get help..THE LEADERS DON'T CARE ABOUT IMMIGRANTS,,its an EXCUSE to steal many more BILLIONS that makes your leader FILTHY RICH...
>>538131101The top is to engage their dumb voter base.Unless you have non-elites who are not baught you won't have anti-migration or pro-worker policies. Don't ever fall for their bullshit.
>>538133889>money is just free Are you not at all aware as to what caused the Covid inflation? Hint: it was the massive amount of spending. >>538133910Cool claim. Now prove it. >>538133930Gibs are calibrated for living cost of the locale. >>538133949Ok? Doesn’t make the millions of foreigners any less of an issue.
>>538132687They know they can keep saying it forever because there, realistically, is always going to be illegals and probably too much legal immigration too. They're not interested in raising wages because it reduces profits and there will always be an excuse about it. Wages haven't risen in line with inflation since the 70s.
>>538133910Governments don't need tax revenue to fund anything. The only thing that matters is actual stuff. Like, if you go to the store and you need to buy you know, a bag of cement or a can of beans or a circular saw -- is that product actually on the shelf (or more complex business services, etc. products and services more generally)? The government doesn't need any immigrant's income or payroll taxes to pay for anything. They create money.It's only a question of how much they contribute to having actual products available. But this cuts the other way, whereas private businesses also want people to sell TO.
>>538134115This retard doesn’t understand where inflation comes from lmao.
>>538133997>Are you not at all aware as to what caused the Covid inflation?Disruption of supply. That's what always causes inflation.
>>538133997>Cool claim. Now prove it.https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration-outlook-2021_29f23e9d-en.htmlhttps://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/Is basic epistemic rigor too hard for you?
>>538134160Incorrect. Increasing the monetary supply without an equivalent increase in underlying economic value is what creates inflation. The government can’t just infinitely print money without causing inflation. >>538134168>migrationobservatory A non bias source, please.
>>538134115>The government doesn't need any immigrant's income or payroll taxes to pay for anything. They create money.Two things can be true, brother.
>>538133997>Gibs are calibrated for living cost of the locale.We're talking about the federal minimum wage though. It basically shows that there's only a 4% less proportional percentage of whites who make below $15/hour, and not the massive amount of Spics (like I said, Spics work under the table, there's little data on their wages and even THEN, they live in states with much higher minimum wages, like in California or Florida)
>>538134244>A non bias sourceWhere did you identify an outcome determinant bias in the methodology?]You have to demonstrate the bias, you know. You can't just say the word bias and expect anyone to care.
Actually making people feel the cost of cheap labor is a way to get them to become anti-immigration and actually makes perfect sense as a tactic OP the idiot
>>538134308I know. Why would we increase minimum wage when it primarily benefits immigrants? >>538134354Your two sources are an organization for free labor movement and an immigrant advocate group. Explain why cost of living has gotten so high despite immigrants “contributing”. Shouldn’t the lives of westerners have gotten noticeably better if immigrants were contributing more than they take?
>>538134158No, you don't know where inflation comes from. Rising wages, enormous public sector debt, but consistently declining prices... how does China do it? It's called production.Morons like you assume if we create twice as much money that our available goods and services stays the same. And, you know, maybe in the West that's not a bad assumption since right wing parasites like you divert so much newly created money to inflating the value of existing assets and preventing the creation of new productive ones (always under the guise of it not being "affordable").If I "printed" $10T and put every dollar of it towards building new housing stock and then just gave those houses away to Americans without their own home free of cost, would that inflate or deflate housing prices? Would it inflate or deflate rent prices?
>>538134427>I know. Why would we increase minimum wage when it primarily benefits immigrants?I guess that went over your head what I said? 52% of workers making less than $15/hour are non-hispanic WHITE. 17 million WHITE Americans would benefit. It doesn't matter to the theoretical Spic making minimum wage because he lives in a state like California where the minimum wage is already above that amount.
>>538133889You know NOTHING about how the system is RUN..ITS ALL FAKE PRINTED FRESH AIR MONEY..This non intrinsic value money DILUTES the money you own,,YOU get less the more is printed for your dollar..If I amass more fresh air dollars than most people then I buy everything up at higher cost to on it all because its from no intrinsic value how the money was made..You don't think well I worked all week for this money I just printed it out of thin air so I will pay what ever for goods and services..The whole system is BROKEN,,its a wonder you can still get away with it all,,why china let their stocks all crash so they can afford to buy and build things...The more money printed out of thin air the more inflation goes up...Inflation can mean higher cost for goods and services...The system got killed because of CORRUPT LEADERS..
>>538134514>no you don’t know where inflation comes from Of course I do. Expanding the monetary supply doesn’t increase the total value of the total currency in circulation. It simply devalues each individual currency, which is inflation. You’re uneducated and coping. >>538134575>52% of workers are white Which means they are underrepresented. Why should we increase the minimum wage when it primary benefits immigrants?That doesn’t benefit me or my people.
>>538134427Are you not going to say what the bias is in the aggregate review? I don't care about your personal feelings about an organization. I'm talking about the methodology of a rigorous meta-study, that the overwhelming majority of independent economic researchers have reviewed and formed a positive consensus around.It's very strong data, and you are saying I should dismiss it all because a guy on 4chan said it was "bias", without even demonstrating the methodological flaw. The dunning-kruger ego on you is hilarious.
>>538134673The source is the bias. >it’s very strong data No it’s not. It doesn’t answer the million dollar question: if immigrants improve the economy, why does it consistently get worse as more immigrants are imported?Immigrants increase housing costs and suppress wages. This is the simple fact of the matter.
Everytime minimum wage gets raised so does everything else, it's a waste of time. Things need to get cheaper instead.
>>538131295Ok. You ARE retarded.
>>538134637>Of course I do. Expanding the monetary supply doesn’t increase the total value of the total currency in circulation. It simply devalues each individual currency, which is inflation.You are, again, assuming the amount of goods and services stays the same. But since the government creates money, it can also channel it. We see this play out in China over and over and over on a daily basis. They print money like it's going out of style.
>republicans are the bad thing you are mentally ill. Go and watch even more TV and get an even smoother brain as a result. You are barely human. >Like smoking cigarettes TV is addictive and causes massive irreversible physical damage (to the brain).Do you ever wonder what your life could have been like?
>>538134725>The source is the bias.The source is a potential conflict of interest (or not, I don't know much about this organization, and you people lie about everything all the time), but this loses weight when it's been independently reviewed by many economic think tanks globally, and when the data itself is collected by dozens and dozens of independent organizations.Do you even know what a meta review is?Again, you are asking me to throw away overwhelming economic consensus because some guy on 4chan said so. Demonstrate the flaw in the methodology, or no one cares.
>>538134877What you’re saying is irrelevant. The monetary regime underpinning the currency is largely what determines inflation. You are confusing true inflation with CPI increases, because you’re uneducated.
>>538134903> The source is a potential conflict of interestExactly so it’s shit. Why aren’t you answering the question?
>>538134938Did you skip the rest of my post? You don't seem to be able to cognitively engage with anything that I write.
>>538134427>Explain why cost of living has gotten so high despite immigrants “contributing”. It's a combination of the money printer PLUS corporate greed PLUS massive Covid scams PLUS the paradigm change since Covid.Perfect example was during COVID. Remember when the "supply chain shortages" hit? Companies raised prices on hand sanitizer because of "supply chain issues". And no, the cost of housing exploding wasn't due to Spics, (or a very small amount). It was a change in paradigm from where housing went from its physical purpose of shelter to a "get rich quick and sit on your ass and do nothing all day" scheme. I remember those articles shilling for Boomers and well-off millennials to "retire and live in Bali, just buy rental properties". And it's true because EVERYWHERE, real estate has increased. Even in Mexico and Indonesia, Philippines, etc.
The only way to get the corporations to back down on bringing in a billion illegals is to make the minimum wage 100/hr and then auto adjust for inflation.and then if you’re caught hiring an illegal you’re beheaded on television.All the anti-immigration policy would magically start passing overnight.
>>538134895>Doo yo eva wonda wat yor loif cud haf bin loik?
>>538134637>Which means they are underrepresented4% underrepresented...
>>538134968He just wants people to take his right wing bullshit at face value.
>>538131101>Republicans: wah, wah, le illegals are depressing wages>Also Republicans: fuck minimum wage, it doesn't need to be raisedBecause wages should float naturally and have extreme locality. One person should be able to offer $1/hr and another should be able to offer $1000/hr and workers should go to where they want to work and employers should hire who they want.If you cant find anybody to work for you, it probably means you arent offering enough money for the work. If you have a waitlist of people that want to come wait for you, well maybe you are paying too much for the work you offer. Neither is right or wrong, but if they dont compete effectively within their market they will go out of business.When Ford opened the assembly line he was offering the equivalent of 1/4oz of gold per day MINIMUM, which is $1000/day equivalent in todays dollars.Minimum wage was created to keep blacks and poor rural whites out of the workforce.
>>538134968Yes, I skipped the rest of your post. Now answer the question. >>538134979None of this is correct. It’s simply demand outpacing supply because we’ve imported 50 million people into the country since 2000. >>538135036So? Why would I support a policy that doesn’t benefit me or my tribe.
>>538134729Products from Walmart in San Diego CA where the minimum wage is over double here, are only 30 cents more expensive.
>>538135071>right wing bullshit Ah, so an economic education is now “right wing”. Explains why you don’t understand what inflation is.
>>538131101It's not illegal to rape illegals.
>>538135171Restaurant prices in California are ridiculously more expensive than in other places of the country.
>>538135255No more goyslop ig
>>538135135>One person should be able to offer $1/hr and another should be able to offer $1000/hr and workers should go to where they want to work and employers should hire who they want.If a Chink can offer a product for 1/3rd the cost at 95% the quality, then the Chink is 99% likely going to win . This is your logic and destroys any "American exceptionalism". Also whyoffshored jeets and Filipinos are replacing American workers. America will ALWAYS be more costly than a tropical country by the way. It's just simple thermodynamics.
>>538135205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNCZHAQnfGUI'll take the Fed chairman's word over yours.
>>538131101how do you enforce a min wage where illegals are paid cash without filing taxes?
>>538135304>just stop enjoying things lol you’re literal social trash. >>538135335>I’ll trust this politician with vested interest instead of opening up an economics book Idiocracy.
>>538135168>None of this is correctExplain why the cost of real estate in Jamaica or whatever has increased as much as the cost of real estate in the US. Explain why Kalispell Montana houses have tripled in price despite there still being a very low percentage of Spics there while the cost of houses in Brownsville Texas are still hovering around $140K?
>>538135387This is a good one.
>>538135474https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coreinflation.aspEducate yourself, friend. >>538135449Jamaica is heavily tied to the American economy.
>>538131144fpbp
>>538131101why are democrats like this?
>>538135515>Jamaica is heavily tied to the American economyBut no Spic migrant invaders, like you say which is why rent has gone up so much in the US
>>538135599Are you stupid or something? Money flows into Jamaica from America. Limited supply yet demand that increases based upon American wealth.
>>538135515Your link isn't refuting anything I'm saying. This is just a rote conversation turning over on itself where you pretend the government can't direct spending to increase production.
>>538131310Holy fucking cope lmao.
>>538135659Yes it is. You’re just too stupid to realize inflation and general price increases ars two separate things. Politicians muddied the waters around what core inflation actually is and uneducated victims like you fell for it.
>>538135255>Restaurant prices in California are ridiculously more expensive Lol. Picrelated, prices for Texas Roadhouse in California vs. in Iowa. Some things are only $2 more...
>>538135792>only corporate franchises exist Peak amerifat
>>538131101Immigration does not matter.Wages do not matter.The only thing that matters is PROFIT.Feed The Beast or (You) will be fed to The Beast.
>>538135855>only corporate franchises exist>Goes over your head that shit is only 10% more in California while the minimum wage is DOUBLE there, and real estate is expensive as fuck, along with their taxes.They just operate with less profit margin. Same thing why Dollar Tree can exist in Los Angeles, because they pay the Dollar Tree wagies in grey shithole Iowa $7.25/hour
>>538135792Now add in sales tax and fees
>>538136001You’re legit a moron if you don’t understand why referencing only franchises isn’t a good example of what you’re trying to claim. What exactly do you think is the point of a franchise?
>>538136032Notice he didn’t use the obvious states like Florida or Texas for his comparison lol.
>>538136032>6%
>>538136052>You’re legit a moron if you don’t understand why referencing only franchises isn’t a good example of what you’re trying to claim. What exactly do you think is the point of a franchise?How so? So you're saying that corporations intentionally pay their workers less when they CAN even though they can survive on less margin, as in California? Or that lesser-income people from Iowa subsidize corporations so that they can have more profit?
>>538136259What exactly do you think is the point of a franchise?How can you people be so stupid? It’s incredible
>>538136105Oh, I'm sorry. $6. But yeah, even with my mistake, $6 on a fucking order where the minimum wage is $16.90 is miniscule.It would require 6.1 hours of work for me at my pay rate to afford one outing at Texas Roadhouse. It would require a Californian only 4 hours. But yeah, totally, the Republicunt state is better
>>538136105Your prices are wrong a 6 ounce steak is $29 in California
>>538131101leftists: wah wah, the government already isn't doing its job properly, is literally embezzling tax dollars, and actively hates us, so maybe we should give it more money and more power so we can fix everything and become star trek
>>538136469>republicunt Lmao someone is mad. https://www.foodandwine.com/mcdonalds-big-mac-prices-per-state-cashnetusa-report-2025-11727992
>>538132687so go out and build a fucking house then. I can't wait for you to go apeshit when you realize vapor barrier will cost you five fucking digits.
>>538136544>California, $6.42>My state, Pennsylvania, $5.89Only 8% more in California, but a minimum wage worker in California is guaranteed to get paid more than double what a Pennsylvania worker is guaranteed. California's unemployment rate is 5.3%. Pennsylvania's unemployment rate is 4.2%, only 1.1% difference more.
>>538136651BOOMERS DIDN'T BUILD THEIR FUCKING HOUSES, SOME OF THE HOUSES THEY BOUGHT IN THEIR 20'S ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD, YET THOSE HOUSES ARE BEING SOLD FOR $400K.
>>538136735now do average cost of rent, gas, and insurance and shit bricks
>>538133426you cant live in section 8 if you do not have an SSN, a Birth certificate, every amount of citizenship proof imaginable, in any state
>>538136735PA isn’t a cheap state > but a minimum wage worker in California is guaranteed to get paid moreIf that’s true why are people leaving California? The most common reason for leaving is high cost of living. Increasing minimum wage just leads to less jobs.
>>538136808because of replacement cost. they didn't have to be built to the same stringent standards but are legally allowed to be dwellings. To replace that house plank for plank with good old-growth studs, cedar siding, and copper wiring, you'd spend well over $400k. Their boomer mansion is a fucking steal.
>>538136878Incorrect. Asylum seekers are considered under the same class as permanent resident, which makes them eligible for section 8.
>>538136887California is prone to natural disasters and drought, even with a great economy and government, its longterm not viable to live in, same with Florida but those people are going there to die, not to raise families
>>538136934you still need a valid SSN, full U.S citizenship, no criminal record or bad renter's history
>>538136808Houses wouldn’t be worth so much if we didn’t import 50 million people in the last 25 years who compete with you for housing. >>538136973Florida and Texas are more affected by natural disasters than California is. That’s not a valid reason to explain why people are leaving California.
>>538136828>now do average cost of rent, gas, and insurance and shit bricksThat's the cost of living in a Mediterranean paradise where the rest of the country is a grey, continental climate hellhole. Has less to do with "socialist" policies and more to do with it having a high quality of life. That's why Florida, a Republican state, is exploding in cost too.
>>538137015No you don’t. If you qualify for asylum, you are eligible for section 8 housing.
>>538137039>it’s because it’s paradise not because of poor fiscal policy! You’re coping, as you types tend to do.
>>538137039>sitting in traffic for three hours to go 20 miles is a higher standard of livingDo you have any idea how nice California was about 50 years ago? It was a paradise. Then the hoard of spiritual wiccans and their cuckolds moved in and made it a beautiful shithole.
>>538137024>Florida and Texas are more affected by natural disasters than California isFlorida has hurricanes and the occasional cold freezing spell, that's about it. Most Texans live in the east, a literal fucking swamp, not in the desert west or Great Plains.California is a dry state overall, except for a few pockets of wet forest. It's on a fault line. California is also mountainous too, which is why there's so many mudslides.
>>538137226>earthquakes are more common than hurricanes You’re legitimately a moron. Your poor excuses also don’t explain why people are moving to Florida and leaving California.
>>538131101Minimum wage does not matter. All it does in increase unemployment.
why are you people still feeding this retard (you)'s?
>>538137088>You’re coping, as you types tend to do.Lol. >Florida, Republican state, warm: EXPENSIVE >Hawaii, warm, expensive as fuck>Southern Alabama and Louisiana, warm, Republican states, both getting expensive ( way more expensive than here in my grey shithole)The Deep South is going to be exploding in price as Florida becomes too expensive by the way. It will soon be just as expensive as Florida or California, despite "muh Republicans"
>>538137156>Do you have any idea how nice California was about 50 years ago? It was a paradise. Then the hoard of spiritual wiccans and their cuckolds moved in and made it a beautiful shithole.The irony is that there's still a shit ton of people from my state, Pennsylvania, that move to California despite the cost.
>>538137452If you are correct, why are people still moving to Florida? According to you, people should be leaving. Florida is also not the Deep South.
>>538137501because they're retarded
>>538137304>Your poor excuses also don’t explain why people are moving to Florida and leaving California.I don't think that's why they're moving out of California because of earthquakes. But saying that they are less affected by natural disasters is wrong.
>>538131101why do you have to post obamas ice chief like that?
>>538131214>How does the free market workSorry, I don't read Fiction.
>>538137513>If you are correct, why are people still moving to Florida?Those are the ones with money. For the average pleb, that ship has sailed unless they want to be terminal renters like they would be if they moved to California.>>538137523No, it's because they want to get out of this grey shithole. They still tend to pick Florida though, because Florida is the new California.
>>538137513>If you are correct, why are people still moving to Florida? According to you, people should be leaving.Because it's a bunch of snowbird boomers who decided to just settle there and kike boomers who like how it's becoming New Israel. In both cases, it's people with lots of money and prices will rise accordingly.
>>538137599California is objectively less affected by natural disasters than Florida is. This is simply fact. >>538137681>those are the ones with money Anon… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_exodusIt even has its own Wikipedia page. Florida is one of the most popular destinations for people to move to. It isn’t just people with money. I’ll never understand why you people cope so hard.
>>538137762> Because it's a bunch of snowbird boomers who decided to just settle thereIt’s a lot more than that, anon. Do you even know the median age of the new Floridan?
>>538137513>Florida is also not the Deep South.Didn't say it was dumbass. But it has cheap houses and a warm climate with good nature. That's what people want, a warm climate. That's why they primarily moved to California, then to Florida. Plenty of Californians are also moving back from Texas because they realized that Texas is a boring and hot (but much hotter than the Deep South) shithole.
>>538137846Florida doesn’t have cheap houses. > Plenty of Californians are also moving backThe numbers don’t back up this claim. Why are you coping so hard?
>>538137921>Florida doesn’t have cheap houses.I am referring to the Deep South.
>>538137978>>Florida is also not the Deep South >Didn't say it was dumbass. But it has cheap houses and a warm climate with good nature.You’re legitimately so retarded that you don’t even read your own posts before contradicting yourself.
>>538137807wildfires, drought, floods, liberal incompetence, and the occasional city destroyer. I'd say california has plenty of shit going on.
>>538138244Wildfires are largely caused by arson. Meanwhile Florida has at least one hurricane per year. Natural disasters are not the reason people are moving from California to Florida.
>>538138118>You’re legitimately so retarded that you don’t even read your own posts before contradicting yourself.I'm referring to the Deep South, which you could infer. For example, Mobile Alabama only goes up to 91 in July but its January low is like 40, so for most of the year, the climate is enjoyable (valuable and innate, you can't just build a better climate).And no, if you know anything about climate, especially in the US, you'd know how high-tier that is
>>538138371Anon, you really need to read your own comment here: >>538137846You’re coping exceptionally hard to ignore the fact that people leave California because the cost of living is too high. Direct consequence of silly policies like increasing the minimum wage in a state that has one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.
>>538138291>Natural disasters are not the reason people are moving from California to Florida.Californians move to Florida because it's a "cheap" (for them anyhow) California. That's why they go back to CA from TX because TX is boring as shit and much hotter than Florida (it is, Florida rarely gets to 100°F, Texas is just as humid but regularly reaches above that)
>>538138503> That's why they go back to CA from TXThe numbers don’t support this rumor. >californians move to Florida because it’s cheap Or because California is expensive. Most Californians go to Texas anyhow.
>>538138614>California is expensiveIt is, there's no doubt that the cost of rent or houses is high there. But that's because CALIFORNIA IS UNIQUE. There's very few places with a warm climate like that, especially with the mountains and the coast. That stuff is a premium, especially considering that most of the US populace lives lives in some boring Midwest shithole. Of course, some of the cost is due to policies, but not all of it , considering the average young Californian is battling against rich people from across the country or across the world, for houses
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>>538131101Republicans: all lives are precious and abortion should be outlawedAlso Republicans: we’re going to cut financial aide to single mothers
>>538138879You just can’t help but cope. The simple fact of the matter is poor fiscal decisions has made California too expensive to live in, which is why people are leaving the state.
>>538138478you fail to explain why increasing minimum wage is "silly." and you will fail no matter how you try to do it. go ahead. try. lets see how long you can avoid copping out with "what if we made it a billion $" before you admit you're wrong.
>>538138944Another one is how they want to protect muh fetuses from abortion, but wish to end free lunches for school children. >Inb4, but it's muh niggers who use free lunches Yeah, but it's nogs aborting their babies too.
>>538138614he didn't give a number. he just said that californians go back to ca from tx because it's boring and hot.
>>538139046Increasing minimum wage doesn’t increase the amount of funds allocated to labor. Doubling the minimum wage directly halves the jobs. >>538139135He didn’t give a number because he’s pulling that out of his ass.
>>538139239>Doubling the minimum wage directly halves the jobs.Pennsylvania minimum wage: $7.25/hour, 4.2% unemployment rate California MW: $16.90/hr, 5.3% unemployment rate Should be much more, but it's not there.
>>538139416Unemployment rate stops counting people when they are out of work for 2 years, or if they go to school. Meanwhile a big Mac costs a dollar more in California than it does in Pennsylvania.
>>538139416minimum wage has nothing to do with unemployment.
>>538139239>He didn’t give a number because he’s pulling that out of his ass.https://www.businessinsider.com/moved-california-to-texas-regrets-mistakes-moving-back-2026-5
>>538131144Not an argument
>>538139500>Meanwhile a big Mac costs a dollar more in California than it does in Pennsylvania.You didn't read your own source:>>538136735$6.42 in CA, $5.89 in PA. 53 cents, wow!!
>>538139568> This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Guadalupe Galindo-NevarezWho gives a fuck about a single anecdote from a spic? The numbers show Californians aren’t moving back.
>>538139710Anon that’s 10% for the same product.
>>538139780And the minimum wage is 233% of Pennsylvania. Dollar Tree starts people at $9/hour here. No spics by the way (can't blame it on them).
>>538139888>and the minimum wage is 233% So? I don’t understand why you can’t accept the fact that people are leaving California because the cost of living is too high.
>>538131101You still haven't figured it out smooth brain? You still think it's about immigrants don't you you fuckin retard.
>>538139995>I don’t understand why you can’t accept the fact that people are leaving California because the cost of living is too high.They aren't leaving to here in Pennsylvania though, unless it's Lancaster or some parts of Philadelphia.
>>538140114Pennsylvania didn’t increase the minimum wage. Almost like there’s a connection.
>>538139995>>538140114This place is such a shithole that you can find a move-in ready house here for $80K. No one moves here though! Must not be muh cost of living why people aren't coming droves and why everyone still wishes to live in Colorado or California even if it's expensive.
>>538140230Pennsylvania gained 27k new residence in 2025. So they’re beating California.
>>538140160>Pennsylvania didn’t increase the minimum wage. Almost like there’s a connection.You can't read. I said Californians aren't moving to Pennsylvania unless it's in Lancaster or some parts of Philadelphia.
>>538140288Pennsylvania is gaining more residents than California.
>>538131101So why would they raise the minimum wage if the illegals are the ones on minimum wage?
>>538131101>>538139634>>538131295He's saying if you had no illegals you wouldn't need to raise the wage because prices would go down because they're not here eating up social services. Which will also be cut so you can pay lesser taxes and keep more of your money.
>>538132687Cut immigration and you won't need to build new houses. 4Chuds connect immigration to depressed wages but not housing scarcity.
>>538140358>So why would they raise the minimum wage if the illegals are the ones on minimum wage?They AREN'T. They're paid under the table because they don't even have a social security number. Only formal jobs have a "minimum wage" obviously.>52% of the population paid $15/hour or less is non-hispanic WHITE >56% of the US population is non-hispanic WHITE So most minimum wagies are WHITE, not spics.
>>538140441>Cut immigration and you won't need to build new houses. 4Chuds connect immigration to depressed wages but not housing scarcity.But if it's the illegals causing housing scarcity and jacking up housing prices, then if we deported them, housing prices would go down according to your logic. Consequently, Trump's voting block would not be happy seeing their property values decrease (which is why they won't build in the first place)
>>538131295>They will hire spics to slave in their meat processing plants but then bitch about muh illegals.You are being retarded on purpose; Republican voters bitch about illegals (and Republican politicians give them lip service), while Republican donors employ illegals (who Republican politicians actually serve).It's a shitty deal, but it's true. The alternative is the openly anti-White Democrat party (jewish marxists), which really isn't any worse than the quietly anti-White Republican party (jewish zionists).
>>538140489https://seniorsleague.org/illegal-work-under-fake-social-security-number-government-still-pays-benefits/
