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Let's celebrate American (suburban) architecture. Because nothing says more about a civilisation than ones ability to create culture that will last for millennia.
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This cartboard piece of shit costed 2 millies btw
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Every wealthy area around the world tries to recreate the American suburb. Thats how you know its the best. Everyone wants it

Poors just cope and seethe
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Look at this great combination of clutter, vinyl and plywood. Truly some high culture going on here.
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>>538147211
Fucking phenomenal
Only the stars can tell what awaits...
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>>538147211
OP is a faggot obviously
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Germany is the only worthwhile culture in Europe
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I love the diversity of American suburbs. This is really something else
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meanwhile in EVROPE
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>>538147395
Lets build a garage and add a room to live in
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>>538147414
goymany has the worst architecture in western europe

france italy belgium is where the SOVL is
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>>538147211
That's a huge McMansion. Most people, I mean 85% of all adults, cannot afford a house that size.
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>>538147247
It would be pretty comfy to live in desu. A/C blasting. Wall to wall carpets. Shoes on in the house.
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>>538147211
Who wants to live in the same house anyway?
You build a wooden house in 6 months, you live there, kids leave, sell the property, and then you tear down the house.
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>>538147211
>Everyone in that photo is a FAT fuck
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>>538147524
well, we were kinda bombed
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>>538147492
That beautiful building will be surrounded by a tent park full of niggers.
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>>538147211

It looks aiite, has a lot of space inside probably.

And it definitely has AC, europoor!
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>>538147589
It's atrocious. If you fail to see that you are failing in life nigger
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>>538147418
>>538147496
Lol seethe
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>>538147576
you deserved it

>>538147577
the mcmansion too

>>538147247
2M dollars is something like 800K euros nowadays
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>>538147576
Russia should do it again imho
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>>538147651
Russia didn't bomb Germany much
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>>538147651
don't think they got enough fuel anymore to make it over here
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>>538147211
>>538147247
brother, thats a brick house. And the photos are taken at a weird angle which distorts some thing, like the windows seeming to not be aligned
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>>538147651
the masters at bombing civilians are the anglos

they did it in normandy, in germany, in sofia

truly a psychopathic race
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It's honestly embarrassing, no matter when or where you take a picture of America these days, it's always full of fat asses waddling around like giant ponderous toddlers.
The food is really bad and everyone is weak willed. Even the rich are fat.
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>>538147247
>>538147211
Why do they add so many roof slopes?
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>>538147642
To be fair, this has way more character than your vinyl and plywood shitty suburban nigger homes that will rot away in 50 years. Say what you wanna say about communistic housing, but they are build to last. Your buildings are just throw away fastfood like pieces of shit
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>>538147211
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>>538147524
Are you talking about pre or after war because pre war is the same as everywhere in europe + timberframe which is pure sovl faggot
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>>538147704
No it's not nigger.

https://youtu.be/fakWEYlrSpM?si=sHqvJIfXLpVMH62B&t=1666
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>>538147765
roof support, water/snow shedding
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>>538147876
timberframe is middle age tier and you stole this technique from eastern france, please be quiest until the end of this thread Mohamed Ngubu
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>>538147211
>>538147247
You missed one, and its the biggest one.
>No weeping holes in retaining wall.
So that shits gonna fucking bow out and crumble within about 4 to 5 years.
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>>538147211
IK OOK
WE GAAN
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imagine living in america when you can live in europe
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>>538147834
Holy fucking cope
LMAO
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>>538147211
I have nothing but contempt for US monkeys
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>>538147733
Best food in the world is in America you just choose to be a fat slob eating corndogs dipped in a tub of fake mayo
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i could not imagine living in a soulless place like germany or arkansas
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>>538147247
>>538147211
da cardboard shit has AC and ductwork through it though. are u jelly?
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>>538148056
why so close from the neighbors?

why no fences?

ridiculous
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>>538148063
I've been to bulgray and man, the people there looked depressed as fuck. Beautiful country though
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>>538147881
so bricks are made out of...bricks. Are you talking about the timbers on the interior? Becuase its wood, not cardboard.
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>>538148086
No, noisy 50db humming AC is not something that improves the neighbourhood.

Cope and seethe nigger
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>>538148098
i have worked in amsterdam and man the people there looked soulless, beautiful women though
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>>538147315
Serious question, do americans have a roof fetish?
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EU and asian bros? please help me, i hate the american pig cunts. always have always will. i want out of this schizophrenic hell hole, i'll do anything. i'll do a terror attack or suck your dick or whatever you want
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>>538148063
>cant imagine living in Arkansas
>posts a picture that could be Arkansas
pottery
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>>538148118
Oh my mistake, I meant particleboard.


But your houses are ugly. Cheap vinyl siding, particleboard construction, and houses with absolutely no character. They're covered in unnecessary shapes, fake decorative elements, and endless architectural clutter. The interiors aren't any better: enormous brown kitchens that look decades out of date, excessive molding and trim on every surface, pointless decorative edges, wooden floors and ceilings everywhere, ugly crown molding, and the same bland gray high-pile carpet throughout the second floor. Everything feels oversized, generic, and overdesigned for no good reason.
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EVROPE = SOVL
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>>538148152
>No, noisy 50db humming AC
>Just the sound of mudslimes and africans stabbing and raping
Home sweet home
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>tfw you will never be french nobility going back home from your french garden naked with your 3 wives eating grape and reciting poesy or your father's crusade
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>>538148214
wow did you get all that from an "American stereotypes for Dummies" book? There is little point in countering your arguments since you feel you are so superior...but Ill pick on. Brown kitchens. They havent been truely brown since the 90s. The last 10-15 years kitchens have been nothing but white. So much so that the white kitchen/grey floor trend is falling out of fashion and people are starting to use colors again.
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>>538148324
this is fucking sick the way americans dress like whores and then let their children dress exactly like adults. i shouldnt be able to see your prepubescent daughter's juicy thigh and ass and tits you fucking freak no class pig. all there is to do in this country is fuck, shop, and eat and everyone is either a white trash piece of shit or a nigger piece of shit. bunch of trashy fucks
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>>538148461
Kys jew
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>>538147211
>>538147247
central AC, proper climate control and windows

>>538147492
no AC, traps all heat in the summer, leaks in cold air through windows in the winter

yet eurosweaties will tell you the bottom is better than the top because >muh window alignment kek
the past few weeks shouldve been eye opening to a lot of you
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>>538147211
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>>538148495
this is how people with class dress you fuck. i am moving to europe
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>>538148538
No you aren't Europe is full of niggers and headchoppers and you need ac because you are super obese greasy jew
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>>538148577
even in cultures like china with open prostitution and showing leg is considered asexual they still dress classier than american pig fucks. when a chinese child bends over or flutters in the wind you dont get flashed because they arent sick sex pests. americans love getting naked and fucking anything even dogs and horses
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>>538148747
Lmao check yourself into a psych ward asap
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>>538148877
death to america
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>>538147492
wow the extra tall windows really add to rhe verticality of the house
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>>538148324
hmm yeah i suppose those frocks are rather short
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This is the real culture thread:

>>538149091
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>>538148056
>polystyrene pillars
>molded polystyrene railing
>fake polystyrene stucco

Damn, it sure is easy to impress burgers with garbage
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>>538147211
YOU DONT HAVE AC
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>>538147211
Americans are stupid as fuck.
There are some really great and comfy modern designs over there but these McMansions seem to dominate and are just awful with no redeeming qualities.
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>>538149719
It has the redeeming quality of not being in Europe.
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where would you rather live? (pls see below)

I'll just repost this from the other thread -- it's about the importance of trees and flora on well-being, not about which country is better or some shit
the pics illustrate the contrast between living with nature, and razing it.
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>>538148185
Literally just move.
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>>538149895
do you really want me to post a picture of missassagua? that's what I thought...
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>>538148389
Very nice besides that its located in france
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>>538149895
What the fuck are you talking about? If you want to live in nature the US has you covered. All you have to do is get outside of a city.
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>>538147418
you stole this picture from me. i posted it a couple days ago
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>>538148461
Jew or muslim? Both are pedophiles.
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>>538149719
>Americans are stupid as fuck.
Based Pekka speaking the truth. Get in here:

>>538149091

Only Europeans welcome.
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>>538150057
this is also america
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>>538148538
>women
>wearing mens pants
Ah so this is why there are so many trannies.
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>>538150249
do you have a lot of pictures of homes on your computer? show me the city in this country with your favorite style of row homes
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>>538147211
another weird d&c shill thread?
>>538150061
>why have standards, goy?
>everything is great in the jewSA, fellow goy
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>>538150217
>>538150289
it should be noted that the areas of the US that have the most row homes are areas that were most influenced by Europe.
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>>538147211
oh dear
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>>538149895
canada is literally identical to America in terms of city planning. This must be a jest.
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>>538150402
well we settled east to west and thus eastern cities for the most part existed for a long time before the age of the car
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>>538147308
>Every wealthy area around the world tries to recreate the American suburb
Great argument for why wealth is a terrible idea and should never be allowed to happen
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>>538150291
>everything is great
No, but girls wearing dresses is fine you fucking pedo faggot.
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>>538147211
That looks like something a spic would build.
>>538147492
99% of Europeans can't afford even to rent that, and most live in crammed soviet-like apartments.

Ironically almost all well off Europeans dream of living in American style suburbs, especially with the influx of diversity.
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>>538147834
>Say what you wanna say about communistic housing
They were built to be ugly
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>>538149932
this bullshit costs 4 million in the us but it costs 150k in britain. fuck off
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>>538150061
maybe you could find this for 200k in kansas, other than that fuck off with this shit. this house is easily 400k anywhere decent and it costs half that in europe plus you get to be european. fuck off
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Both Europe and burgerland have examples of soul and soulless. Europe more due to the fact we exist for more then 300 years.
The most unappealing thing about US for me is that everywhere there is something to make your life a bit more miserable. Mosquito hordes, socrpions, venomous snakes, venomous spiders, woves, coyotes, bears, mountain lions, gators etc.
Also most of it is not temperate, so you get to mostly live in the desert, jungle, swampass florida or shovel 3m of snow 6 times a year. Living in central Europe is peak comfy where a tick is your biggest worry.
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>>538150487
True. I was just pointing it out for the Euros in the thread who think we dont have areas that are similar to Europe, that we do. The fundamental thing they dont understand that is we have a wide variety of everything. It is silly to generalize all houses in America as McMansions, or cookie cutter subdivisions. Sure those exist, but so does everything else.
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My house has lasted longer than the 150 year old ash tree I had to take down on the back side this year. Hopefully the dogwood I put in it's place will last longer. The house is built with enormous 10" timbers at each corner and giant rough sawn beams everywhere. It can be easily repaired with locally available materials by the homeowner and a few of his friends. America is a new continent, when people arrived here they were on their own with basic hand tools and not a hundred stonemasons with teams of oxen and established quarries to build giant limestone houses, hence we built things of wood and we still do. I really don't get the controversy. It's quite easy to understand why things are done differently. How much new construction in the EU is done in stone?

>>538148007
>>538148389
You can find these grand old houses for even cheaper and it's because getting them repaired and brought into modern EU energy compliance will cost many times the purchase price. I was initially wooed by the idea of buying some old french manor house and living a quiet life in the countryside until I began looking into it. There's a reason the families that own them are dumping them for peanuts after 20 generations of living there. EU regs and taxes are raping them into poverty. I'll likely just buy an old baita in the dolomites that's built exactly like my current house and skip the masonry...
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>>538150217
this omly exists in three cities, maybe 5 tops. on a large scale more than one street, this only exists in nyc and chicago and philadelphia, all nigger infested crime neighborhoods and it still is like a 300k home. fuck you
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>>538150249
wow cool a 500 or 600 thousand dollar house that is mimicking a 200 or 300k house in france thanks a lot fucker. so useless
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>>538150453
no it isnt, at least in canada they have proper zoningand welfare and taxes. and local business. canadians are far richer than muttmericans
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>>538150728
Outside of the very recent real estate inflation, that house is no more than 150k anywhere int he USA. In nowhere Kansas or somewhere similar it would have been like 80k 10 years ago.
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>>538148538
Not in 120 degree heat.
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>>538150541
this is an art deco piece of shit and looks nothing like spain fuck off. and spain would be way better to live in anyway, or portugal, and far cheaper for the same idea but done correctly. america is like china in the 80s just ripping everything off and copying it all shitty
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>>538147211
Peak Amerimutt
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>>538150765
looks like total shit and would fall over in one tornado. literally looks like a fucking barn or a gas station in europe. it looks like a commercial property
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>>538148007
280m2? That's tiny! That's like, what, 3000sqft max? I wonder what the property tax is.
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>>538147211
>House that doesn't allow black pete into it.
BASED.
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>>538147577
Never seen it in Europe. A few tents in Frankfurt.
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>>538147642
Still cheaper and had more local amenities than any suburb neighborhood would
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>>53815 0901
There are too many retarded things in your post to warrant a (you) but I like the dueling narrative you've been shitting out itt
> These houses are shit and built like shit and will never last
> I hate the simple craftsman architectural tradition of houses built 200 years ago!

How many tornadoes have you heard about in New York state kek
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>>538148063
Yeah, Arkansas is such a shithole, just look at it
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>>538148185
You have nature, you have a place you can get some stuff, you can drive there in air conditioning, what's the problem? I don't see the issue. Looks fine to me.
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>>538150767
in all these places, there are neighborhoods of these townhomes that are white and nice, and there are neighborhoods of these townhomes that are black and not-so-nice
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>>538150759
>McMansions, or cookie cutter subdivisions. Sure those exist, but so does everything else
true. but we're not building nice neighborhoods and in general well planned cities for the most part anymore. we are though building cookie cutter ugly mass suburbia though
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>>538150826
nigger please. toronto might have worse urban planning than any major city in the united states
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>>538151130
There’s no greater plans for an area just rampant expansion for the sake of profit and fix the unavoidable problems you’ve created on the way
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>>538151016
i can almost guarantee you that's not arkansas
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>>538147834
>Western cuck romanticizes communist architecture
Man, you are fucking pitiful. Soviet butalist architecture is designed to be ugly, soulless and dehumanizing, almost everything that was before and came after is better on any level.
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>>538147418
>I love the diversity
We know, faggot.
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For Europoors escaping to the ACs of the New World...
Top 5 cities in the country (ignoring the quality of the current residents):
1. Charleston
2. New York
3. Chicago
4. Washington
5. Boston
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>>538151207
Bugger. Well this one is: "the top of Rattlesnake Ridge Natural Area looking east toward Pinnacle Mountain"
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>>538151370
top 5 cities according to what? Also, Washington is a state...
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>>538151370
Phoenix is nice as hell and having the ability to go up into the mountains in winter and experience snow and greenery and then back down into the valley and it's like 20 degrees on Christmas is magical. In the summer it's hot as fuck and dry as fuck and still nice. I love the desert. Desert-savannahs that aren't full of either lions or terrorists are rare enough.
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>>538150904
>I wonder what the property tax is
a lot fucking cheaper than in the US, that's for sure
average property tax here is 12.5€/m2, so for something like that'd be 3500€/year
but that's in average, which includes shitties and leftist hellholes
the countryside is much cheaper, and more right leaning (prbly not in allier, though, since that zone is a commie stronghold)
anyway, you can bet it's peanuts compared to what it'd be for you
also, it's 280m2, but the calculus is speshul: doesn't include what's under a mansard roof, rooms with water, too small rooms, basement, etc
and looking at the ad:
https://www.bellesdemeures.com/annonces/vente/tt-2-tb-2-pl-1831/267648917/#?m=search_to_detail
it seems bigger than the number claims
12 rooms, rather big, and side buildings (12 horse boxes, two garage of which one large, and a large outbuilding, which are never incuded in the surface)
also has a basement
which seems more fitting with the land surface (such houses generally have 1-2ha, and most are significantly bigger than 380m2, more like around 600m2, so with 4ha, you'd expect the surface number not to tell the whole story)
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>>538147881
What's your experience with construction? Lego sets? The frame of that house is clearly solid wood and not plywood. They literally show them putting the up concrete and brick on the outside of the frame.
Any comments from Euros about this monstrosity are just seethe and cope from the second bedroom in a 35m2 Apartment.
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>>538151370
this guy is a retarded nigger omg
1. 5 blocks of rich white people and old homes and then a sea of niggers and bullshit. and it is tiny, hasnt been a thing for 200 years
2. maybe the 4th best city
3. absolute rotten nigger city totally fell off. looks like a wasteland and is just eternal sprawl to get away from downtown. white flight
4. you are joking. this is zombie land like the worst city in the nation second only to philly
5. maybe the 3rd best city
the real list is
1. san francisco
2. los angeles
3. boston
4. nyc
5. seattle
there is no arguing this list except maybe the order. no city is even first world tier like these yet
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>>538148461
You're weird
And if you think the only things to do involve eating, fucking, and shopping, then you have no imagination and are stuck in the consumerist trap
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>>538149895
>Would you rather live in this housing complex, which is otherwise a marvel of engineering in the middle of desert nowhere outside Las Vegas, or in a similarly designed neighborhood, but with tall trees in the mountains and lakes of the north east?
What kind of stupid question is this? I'll live where there's work and the outside temperature isn't 120 in May.
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>>538148185
>We don't have Parking Lots at shopping centers in Germany!
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>>538147642

Workers got this for free btw
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>>538151652
your list aint much better bub
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>>538151525
phoenix is horribly designed though. you can have a city in a desert and not have it be a mass sprawl of concrete
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>>538151469
Urbanism in general
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>>538147642
Being homeless
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>>538151652
>2. los angeles
nice bait
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>>538151864
Diogenes begs to differ
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>>538151652
>1. 5 blocks of rich white people and old homes and then a sea of niggers and bullshit. and it is tiny, hasnt been a thing for 200 years

much more than 5 blocks. pretty extensive. and a lot of young white people. also black population has been crashing through the floor in charleston. also was founded in 1670, so it actually has "been a thing for 200 years"
>3. absolute rotten nigger city totally fell off. looks like a wasteland and is just eternal sprawl to get away from downtown. white flight
north end is nice though. of course it has many issues with niggers though. this is modern america we're speaking about
>4. you are joking. this is zombie land like the worst city in the nation second only to philly
has many many nice neighborhoods
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>>538147308
>Every wealthy area around the world tries to recreate the American suburb
Fuck no. Have you ever been outside of your cuckold containment continent?
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>>538151016
>>538151207
Yea that doesn't look like no Ozarks I ever seen.
Looks like South America or some shit.
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>>538147211
To be fair, European single family houses have gotten really cheap in terms of materials. Still better than plywood and dry wall, but not exactly a brick architectural wonder either.
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>>538147211
We call those "McMansions" and we hate them too.
>>538147642
Nigga, the Soviets actually BUILT housing for everyone and you'd get an apartment from the state FOR FREE. You just had to pay your utilities and maintain it yourself.

Meanwhile you are paying half your monthly gross to the rent kike and you'll never be able to afford your own house unless you get stupid lucky on some really degenerate puts.
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>>538147577
No, that's Philly, SF, and LA.
>>538148504
Nigga, you wanna talk about heat loss? Your house built from CARDBOARD lmao.
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>>538154035
>FOR FREE
Well, "free", with some caveats and small print.
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New grape hate thread just dropped!
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Truth Nvke

>>538153348 —->
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>>538147544
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>>538149895
I don't understand why americans oppose nature. In their suburbs they even have rules that forbid them from planting trees, the so called "HOA".
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>>538147211
>Head bobbling intensifies
>Saars, do not redeem
>Bathes in cow shit
Lol, LMAO even
No izzat 4 u
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>>538150050
Why do you need to live outside of the city to have trees when your suburbs have plenty of space for trees and other vegetation, often more than in European suburbs? For contrast here is a house in a typical suburb of our capital Helsinki.

Are you not ashamed of yourself american for having no taste or standards, for destroying nature to only have cut crass that doesn't even have clovers in it?
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>>538147211
yes it's an abomination
architects family son here (dad, granddad, great grandad, cousin, cousin's wife, a mom's side aunt was in charge of notre dame for years)
americant abominable ignorance of proportions is beyond puke tier
here's gran's summer mansion, not that it looks great (except in a cartoonish way) but at least it has some remains of proportion knowledge and understanding
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>>538147247
it's not just alignment, it's proportion
there are rules about where to place windows and anything else, and how their shape and proportions match the rest
it's basic archi maths
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>today I will seethe about american architecture
Do you ever get tired being eternally obsessed? Get help OP.
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>>538148056
>>538149539
This looks like a Victorian or a colonial revival house, probably 100 years old and built nothing like houses built today. These houses will outlast 95% of houses built in the last 60 years.
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>>538148007
too big
it'll cost you as much or more in repairs/maintenance under 5 years
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>>538147544
Don’t be a chud. Yuropoors can’t turn the A/C on without being arrested for ecoterrorism.



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