Socialists have been cleaning up winning election after election because the majority of people agree with their message>universal healthcare >tuition free college>housing as a human right>anti AI/data centersIt’s because these policies are directly addressing people’s material needs. What is the right wing offering that’s comparable? Hating the lgbt? Giving more money to Israel instead of fixing things here at home? Like legitimately what is the plan here? Because hating black and brown people doesn’t put food on the table, and we’ve already tried that for years
>>538159105>Brownoid socialismLol
Your country is full of retarded shitskins how are you going to turn it around with more of them?
>>538159105>because the majority of people agree with their messageyou think that's how elections work?hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
>>538159105>Because hating black and brown people doesn’t put food on the tableIt puts as much food on the table as socialism then. >DSA is winning everywhere!What? Like two seats?
>>538159474They’re up to like a half dozen on the national level now with more coming in the next couple weeks, but up and down the ballots on the state and local level there’s tons. I think that’s what politicians call “momentum”? When a movement starts to gain steam by piling on win after win. But my question is what is the right wing offering in return?
>>538159105I wont be giving any of my money or attention to shit coloreds who were fraudulently brought into this country by kikes. Hang that nigger.
If the Republicans can raise the white percentage of the population then I'll continue to vote for them, otherwise I'll just vote for the most left wing candidate possible to punish the richoids who brought all the browns here
>>538159105>What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?Uhhhhh /pol/ tier shitposts on the White House twitter account and ughhhhhhh infinite money for Israel?
>>538159960>People keep voting for socialists in election after election because their platform is addressing their immediate economic needs, so what is the right offering other than being the party of “we hate black and brown people” that doesn’t address this at all?>The Right: we hate black and brown people
She's a shitskin from ethiopia, so deporting her back there or citizen vigilante.>muh free No one cares about this anymoreYou need to go away forever.
>>538159474>What? Like two seats?They've won 8 now, plus the NYC mayor, there's expected to be another few still to come
>>538159105The problem with fighting against socialism is affordability is a non issue with FIAT currency and financial capital. The only difference is capitalists believe corporations should have a monopoly on thin air cash injections. They don’t care about debt or inflation. They need it
>>538160343I think the reason socialists keep winning is because they can’t afford to go to the doctor and everything in the grocery store costs 4 times what it used to and gas is a million dollars a gallon. I’m just not sure how much the majority of Americans struggling financially care about any of what you said when their biggest financial concerns are being able to afford to live
>>538160526A big one is also few under 40 can afford a house anywhere near a major city. The social contract used to be you work a job, you can afford housing. Then billionaires took a massive shit on that
>>538159105>What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?Low taxes. If you have an IQ above room temperature, you realize that liberal promises are BS that will never impact your life. It's all either lies or grift. Look at the public school system. Universal healthcare? Will never happen. Even if it did, it would be a costly boondoggle with tons of money getting wasted and inadequate care for everyone. The Dem solution would always be to throw more money at the problem. Just look to the public school system as an example. Same with free college, free housing, etc. They're all just scams to give public money to cronies and NGOs. The problem is that young people, browns, and women are stupid enough to believe leftist lies.
>>538160741>Low taxes.Tarrifs are a significant increase in taxes for the average American.> Universal healthcare? Will never happenThis is why people are voting DSA, because neither Dems nor GOP are even trying to implement it. And every other developed country on the planet already has it as a basic public service. Even Mexico just implemented it. The US now has worse public healthcare than Mexico.
DSA > MIGAnigger republicucks
>>538160741It’s funny because all those fairytale/pie in the sky policies you just said could never happen? Every single other country over here competing in the World Cup right now has them. And we pay for Israel’s universal healthcare on top of it despite not having it ourselves. Every single other country visiting here can manage to do it, but we keep getting told by people like you that it’s simply impossible lol. Hey, you know that “crazy impossible pipe dream”? Yeah everyone else except us has it
>>538159105>It’s because these policies are directly addressing people’s material needs. What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?The right doesnt care about the peoples needs, what you had before was the propaganda that they do, but that has been destroyed in the last year. Mask is off now.
>>538160741>Low taxes.kek this is what chuds keep saying, yet it never happens
>>538159105They have stated that they want to seize high value corporations.Enjoy starvation soon.
>>538159105>What is the right wing equivalent of this?the closest would be the courts declaring Bush won over Gore, because the cia needed the black eagle trust money for their glownigger operations and 911 was the only was they were going to get it without declaring who got the funds, plus they needed to destroy all that Enron/Worldcomm evidence in the SEC offices in bld 7.we dont have much history of right wingers outright cheating like we have seen from the "all means justify the ends" crowd on the left
>>538159105I thought DSA was all white men according to Jews
>>538159105"Cleaning up winning"? Doubtful.Cheating. It's cheating that is happening.
>>538161405>we dont have much history of right wingers outright cheating like we have seen from the "all means justify the ends" crowd on the leftAre you insane? Bush stole that election from Gore. Roger Stone staged the Brooks Brothers riot specifically to ensure Gore didn't win it, despite evidence later showing he did.
>>538159105>what is the right wing version of thistrump winning 2016
>>538160741how do lower taxes solve anything?
>>538160887>Tarrifs are a significant increase in taxes for the average American.Okay, low income taxes you pedantic freak. Tariffs had been largely abandoned by both parties in the modern era. Only Trump brought them back, and Trump is hardly a traditional Republican. After Trump, it will be interesting to see what we do with tariffs. > The US now has worse public healthcare than Mexico.Yeah you're a troll. There's no way you can be mentally ill enough to believe this.
>>538161462>the CIA stole that election with the help of SCOTUSftfyreminder that once Florida took real election security measures after this, Florida ceased to be a swing state and has been pretty much entirely R ever sincein reality bush v gore in Florida was a matter of both sides cheating to the point where it went to SCOTUS, who sided with the CIA in the matter.
>>538161426The right likes to alternate who they say the DSA is depending on who they’re talking to. When it’s convenient they’ll tell you that they’re all white gentrifying 20 something’s, but when that’s not convenient they’ll tell you that they’re all poor black and brown people trying to take advantage of “da system”- they just make it up as they go depending on what lie they find most useful in the moment
>>538159105>Be the dnc>Also be the rnc.>Continue to write policies and laws and support our dying voter group of boomers and boomers only >Sell their children and grand children's future ho the river >Wonder why most people under 40 are completely disenfranchised with both parties>Can't into why people are supporting socialists Once again, fucking boomers managing to fuck their children, their grand children, and now driving so many people to the dsa, their great grandchildren Tbh, people over the age of 59 should not get a vote. Or their vote should only count for half a vote.
>>538161467lmao muh russians amirite
>>538160741>boondoggle>reddit spacingPerhaps if we didn't burn literally BILLIONS of dollars in the Middle East, everything you listed would not be a "boondoggle". Go back.
>>538159105>What is the right wing equivalent of this?Americ ais, at tis core, an anti-Christian and leftist country, so this isn't any surprise. Especially with non-whites being left by default and American being majority non-white.
>>538160526What would socialists do about that? At best they can offer rent control and get gibs from Democrat-run states. They cannot nationalize big industry.
>>538161376>yet it never happensTax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 and The Big Beautiful Bill both reduced taxes. Republicans at the state level consistently cut taxes. Just this year, deep red South Carolina and Arkansas both reduced state income tax. Perhaps you could try understanding what you're talking about before commenting on a situation?
>>538159105tea party or trump maga
>>538161649>Perhaps if we didn't burn literally BILLIONS of dollars in the Middle East, everything you listed would not be a "boondoggle".Yeah I used to think this too. Then I turned 15. You have no clue how corrupt and incompetent publicly funded systems are. Ever work in a public school, local government, or university? What about in or alongside a government union? Ever work at all?
>>538160887>Tarrifs are a significant increase in taxes for the average American.buy domestic and dont pay, simple asreminder that tariffs almost entirely funded the fedgov before the jews decided that it was better for plebes to fund it instead of the corporations> every other developed country on the planet already has it as a basic public service#1 we subsidize the entire world's R&D#2 its easy enough to do this in a lawful and constitutional manner - just pass a fucking amendmentthe problem with that is its a stringent bar that will never be overcome and the fedgov simply does not have the lawful power to do itthe States can do it, I wonder why?surely it couldnt be because of that absolutely massive failure in massachusetts
>>538161675reduced taxes by also adding a bunch of poison pills that adds more pain and suffering and higher taxes in different ways* for financial judaism for the "chosen" people to have lower taxes* you mean.the Trump cuts have done nothing positive for me outside of the standard deduction.
>>538159105Well it was gonna be MAGA>isolationism, divestment from geopolitics>pro-American policies only, fuck Israel>local manufacturing brought back>mass deportations/lower home prices/higher wagesBut instead we got the exact opposite. Now I simply want the parties abolished and all members of them dragged into the street for mass lynching. Red team blue team I don't care, they all gotta go. Complete sweep, 100% turnover, no holdouts nobody gets to remain in politics. Anything less than that will not fix anything.
>>538159105>What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?the support of Epstein pedosderegulating dangerous things to give everyone cancercreating a police state and turning America into a Chinese social credit systemtelling the people they no longer matter and to shut up getting rid of all social safety nets because of ummm fraud and waste ok or something just shut up
>>538161581>Yeah you're a troll. There's no way you can be mentally ill enough to believe this.By definitely the US has worse public healthcare than Mexico because the US doesn't have a public healthcare system beyond Medicaid and Medicare, which are not universally available. Mexico recently implemented universal healthcare under Sheinbaum, something that 32 of the 33 most developed countries on the planet have, excluding the US. How do you not already know this? You live right next door to Mexico.
>>538161650>Americ ais, at tis core, an anti-Christian and leftist country,this is just pure delusional fantasybut we've already known that there's tons of tards out there that make up what they want to believe and call it reality and act like its really real
>>538161025>Hey, you know that “crazy impossible pipe dream”?It's not impossible. We can and do waste billions on healthcare. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. You jobless NEETS can enjoy your medicare for all where you have to wait in an ER all day with a bunch of homeless niggers for your "free" healthcare. I'll keep my private insurance because I'm a white man whose above such things, thanks.
>>538161617>Once again, fucking boomersthe jews really did a fuckin job on the minds of the youngto the point of literally blaming a generation of people instead of the jewish banking corporations and all their tentacles in academia, government, media, etc
>>538160684This. Society sacrificed home ownership so millionaires could become billionaires. And now that they want to become trillionaires, they're complaining that our health care is too good and we should be eating worms instead of posh lentils and beans.They'll submit to taxation. Their standard of living will be better if they were taxed down to "just" being millionaires hundreds of times over again than it would if civilization gets steered into the tar pits
>>538159105this is just the lefts tea party moment. which fell apart because conservatives are retarded pawns
>>538161856>I'll keep my private insurance because I'm a white man whose above such things, thanks.Public healthcare makes it pointless to have private health insurance unless you want quicker non-emergency surgeries. It's kind of incredible how sheltered Americans are and know nothing about how the rest of the developed world works.
Good. The DSA are a bunch of freaks and retards that sew chaos and failure everywhere they go. The fastest way to scare the democrats and independents to the right is to increase their presence.
>>538161936>this is just the lefts tea party moment.no, we already saw OWS get infiltrated and redirected into caring about race instead of corporations
>>538161761Yeah, but that’s moronic/impossible considering we’ve completely gutted our manufacturing sector domestically over the course of the lifespan of the baby boomers. We have no manufacturing so we import just about everything. This is just one example, but if you go to buy a car- a domestic car- it may even have been “manufactured” here in America, but the parts required for it have been back and forth across the globe like 3-5 times before it ever gets here. That’s why I say, what you’ve just said is either simply moronic, or such a misunderstanding of the situation that it is effectively indistinguishable from lying
>>538161978>The fastest way to scare the democrats and independents to the right is to increase their presence.unfortunately the right is completely insane now
>>538161940we already understand that you live in a prison colony and your government just does things, with or without the consent of the governedyou got false flagged into giving up your guns ffshiding all the costs makes it easier for fraud graft and corruption to happenwhich is why at least here we allegedly have restrictions on what the fedgov can doyou, will be vanned for talking too much
>>538159105> What is the right wing offering that’s comparableNot being replaced by a foreign race that is objectively inferior by every metric and was only ever tolerable when filtered through a highly selective immigration process. All of your morals and values collapse as soon as thirdies breach supermajority and socialists turn into kleptocrats. Also,Mamdani answers directly to chabad. He dines with them. The DSA is another case of the zionist right subverting the left with open borders garbage to force people to support the schneersonite version of zionism (killing all goyim). How? By diluting out any goyim that could oppose them if they dare oppose them. White and east asian people stage revolutions. Browns and jeets are too low IQ and disorganized. How about you stop believing voting works? Schneersonites own both sides.
>>538162092>Yeah, but that’s moronic/impossible considering we’ve completely gutted our manufacturing sector domestically over the course of the lifespan of the baby boomersonly retards blame this on boomers instead of correctly placing the blame on corrupted government officials and bureaucrats who purposefully gutted our manufacturing capacity
>>538162154You are extremely dumb and getting ripped off by your own government. You are denied public healthcare so private insurers can extract more money out of you and politicians are bribed to keep it this way, not because it couldn't be done
>>538159105>No Republican has even notched 30% of the vote in the district after 1998.Commie wins a commie district. She'll continue to run it into the ground and they'll continue to thank her for it, who cares?
That somali woman is usinsocialism as a maskShes 100% controlled by some muslim nigger.When she gets in office she will raid the coffers and give it to her somali muslim clade.she won the primary and not the election.Alot of these shit skinns are riding on mamdanis good name and it hilarious becuase not all shitskins can be like mamdani. And they usually arent.
>>538161940>non-emergencyThis is the literal killer word in free healthcare. It’s even more jewish than PHI because those tax dollars were promised to your lower wage “non entitled” replacements. >i have cancer >its just an ache m8 take an advil you fucking entitled white colonizer you dont get living standards just for working you arent even oppressed>just be gay and dont have kids and you cumskins can afford anything
>>538162214>only retards blame this on boomers instead of correctly placing the blame on corrupted government officials and bureaucrats who purposefully gutted our manufacturing capacityrightoid capitalists saw that making shit overseas made things cheaper so that was the guiding principle for decades, like most terrible problems in america its because of rightoid faggots
>>538161743For most people this is completely immaterial since the private version of the solution is unaffordable. Better a bad solution than no solution.>BUT WE'LL REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT YOU DUMB LIBTARD?!?!?!?!?!When have conservatives and/or Republicans ever accomplished anything like that? When have we even gotten close to rolling back cost of living so that people can afford college and healthcare via private methods, easily?People believe the leftist version of all this because it could actually work. Government actually can just mandate that these things happen and make them happen, in whatever dumb form that takes. The rightist version is always just>We'll do less and that will hopefully create conditions where you can do morebut that never happens. Why would it happen?There is by necessity a much more tenuous connection between relieving the tax burden and being able to access the things people care about like health/education than there is between government grabbing money (mainly from rich people) and mandating that those things happen.>BUT IT'S BAD SPIRITUALLY IN THE LONG TERMTotally agree. Can't expect plebs to care when their lives are falling apart right now.
>>538160526That’s my point thoughbeit.
>>538162336Why are you speaking so confidently when you've never used a medical system outside the US? People on public healthcare receive cancer treatment with no delay here. I'm talking about stuff like knee replacements, which suck to not deal with quickly, but are not life-threatening and you usually have to wait 1yr+ to get it done in the public system. You can get it done quickly with private insurance, but few people bother.
>>538162224>my prices are well hidden and I just pay these massive taxes, which is much better. I dont even want to know what things cost.its almost like you dont even realize this>and politicians are bribed to keep it this way, not because it couldn't be donedo you seriously think that when they rammed obamacare through and had Justice Roberts alter the law after Congress voted on it, their supermajority in congress was somehow insufficient as far as congress goes?no faggot, understand the purposefully very high bar for an amendmentobama and his faggots understood very well that the bar was far higher than they could clear, even with owning both the house and the senate as well as the presidencyyou make it like this totally would happen except people get paid to prevent itwhen the reality is, it would never happen even with massive amounts of money really wishing it could happen for real
>>538159105Electing Donald Trump and people like Matt Gaetz and MTG. Democrats tried fighting that with moderates. They lost, so they decided to burn it all down in their safe seats.
conservatives "I hate everyone that isn't exactly like me"leftists "we should improve society"that's all.
>>538162309Who is the “somali woman” you’re referring to. Like nothing you said made any sense, but the thing that really pushed it over the edge was the fact you have no idea what her nationality is but insisted several times it was Somali and that that was important
>>538162362I remember back in the days when leftoids were against the corporations, but you fags can claim no such thing these days after all the fighting for the corporation you useful idiots have done
>>538162224Public healthcare ONLY works in racially and religiously homogenous nations completely free of competing and parasitic groups.The aforementioned are also the exact things shitting up private healthcare. When the US was more than 70% white private healthcare cost us less and provided better care than anything else on earth. Only browns disproportionately didnt benefit BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE TOO DUMB AND VIOLENT TO SUCCEED IN SOCIETY UNLESS SUPERIOR PEOPLE ARE MARGINALIZED AND NON-CONTRIBUTING JOBS (sports player, actor, autotuned “artist”) ARE ELEVATEDWhy do you think israel can have free healthcare? They just kill their local subhumans and the system works.
>>538162462>my prices are well hidden and I just pay these massive taxes, which is much betterDude, we have the same taxes roughly as the US. You are brick stupid. You are getting ripped off by your government. They can afford infinite wars in the middle east, but not basic healthcare for the people and you just accept this.
>>538159105>MFW that's my district
>>538159105>What is the right wing equivalent of this?That comes after the actual socialists take power and fuck shit up far harder than the Republicrat Uniparty ever did. No, we cannot skip the socialist shithole stage, because unfortunately retards need to burn their hands on the stove first.
>>538162492spelled>Leftists: we reserve the utmost hate for anyone that disagrees with us in any waywrong>but we just want to make the world a better place>and by that, we mean for the corporations that we carry water and fight for>what do you mean there are moar equal animals? that's not in the script I was handed!
>>538162362>Well, we couldnt just tell people what to do when their actions became a problem. That wouldnt be real capitalism. Under the laws of ethical consistency and per the holiness and divine truth of 19th and 20th century economic theory, we simply could not tell them to behave reasonably without obliterating all property rights. Capitalism is always corrupted by liberal ideology like this. Its the same exact way communism fails. If people were actually right wing (fascist), it would not matter if a country were capitalist or communist.
>>538162224I want you to go look up what's currently going on in Canada and the UK regarding healthcare now that they have a full time underclass of takers. Something we've always had and the rest of the world should have used as an obvious example to avoid. American healthcare blows and I wont defend it, but the public version is no better in a society that isn't culturally homogeneous.
>>538159105She's hot, she can be my GEOTUS
>>538162492Conservatives: I don't want you talking to kids about gay sex and transitioningFaggots: YOU BIGOT PIECE OF SHDJFKEHDGDJ D HWHDJFJFNDKDUFUHSHDHPPQPEO. Incoherent faggot noises continue.....
>>538162625>the public version is no better in a society that isn't culturally homogeneous.It works perfectly fine in a system that isn't culturally homogenous. You're just confidently repeating nonsense when you have no first hand experience with public healthcare whatsoever.
>>538162528>Dude, we have the same taxes roughly as the US>and by roughly, I mean Australia generally imposes higher, more progressive income taxes than the USA. While both levy federal, state/territory, and consumption taxes, Australia relies heavily on individual income tax revenue, features a higher top marginal bracket kicking in at much lower incomes, and includes universal healthcare taxeswow, total lefttard embellishment, I've tooootally never ever seen that one before lmao
>>538159105>look some blue candidate from a blue state won an electionGlad we stopped the presses for this breaking story anon.I'm glad they're being honest about being openly treasonous against the US though. Socialism aka communism is inherently un-American and those traitors are putting that label on their head for all to see.
>>538159883>>538160189There are 435 house seats. I don't see 8 socialists making any difference.
>>538162408You can wait a year for a knee replacement here while the insurance company plays fuck around fuck. No knee replacement without trying physical therapy and steroid injections first, no phys therapy and steroid injections until you get an MRI, no MRI unless you get an xray, no xray unless you see a specialist, no specialist unless you see your PCP first. This process took a year for one of my relatives, for each of his joints. And he worked for a fucking HOSPITALCorporate lobbyists deserve to be beaten with tire irons. In a just world they would suffer twice the harassment that abortion providers do
>>538162710>While both levy federal, state/territory, and consumption taxesGood job believing AI slop you absolute dumbass. We have no state taxes here.
>>538162462It’s either high taxes or a revolution and near zero taxes for actual socialism where the state uses profits of nationalized industries to fund universal healthcare, subsidized housing, free college, etc. Socialism is inevitable.
>>538162566Sadly this.
>>538162619>If people were actually right wing (fascist) that would be le goodthis is what your fascist utopia looks like btw>>538161807
>>538159105you don't need a right wing equivalent, the third way National Socialism will always triumph over the weaker international socialist shitshow
>>538162619>right wing (fascist)its insane how lefttard academics convinced tards that Fascism somehow isnt the marriage of corporate and state power, which is a direct quote from fascist MussoliniI get it though, they dont want you to have a word for corporatocracy and for damned sure dont want you associating it with international corporatocracy, hence the inclusion of nationalism in the memed redefinitionreminder when you argue for the redefinition, you are fighting for the internationalist corporations
>>538162408What you have is worse than how private care works in a mostly ethnically homogenous nation. In an entirely homogenous nation, private and public services are interchangeable. Add just 20% diversity however, and privatization is required so the subhuman community does not drain too much from the system because they’re retarded and fat. Yes, southern evangelical “whites” are also niggers but it worked because the old private system, pre-90s kept their costs confined to their localities.
>>538162760It would never work here. Nearly half the budget of all public facilities like police, hospitals, And fire departments are funded by property taxes. There is no future for socialism in the US.
>>538161940>Public healthcare makes it pointless to have private health insurance unless you want quicker non-emergency surgeries.Yeah it's so pointless we constantly have wealthy Canadians coming to the US to get their healthcare faster than their in their publicly funded system. You're Australian, you have no idea how things work over here. You don't even understand how bad you have it.
>>538162759>you cant trust AI when it disagrees with the fantasy in my headgg abbo
>>538159105>>538160134>because the majority of people agree with their messagetranslation:>the animals become excited and are happy when the corn rattles in the shaking bucket
>>538162760shut up, jew
>>538162841>Yeah it's so pointless we constantly have wealthy Canadians coming to the US to get their healthcare faster than their in their publicly funded system.There are Americans travelling to Mexico to get healthcare because the US system is so expensive and dysfunctional. I cannot believe Americans are so propagandized they have been convinced by insurers that they don't even want public healthcare. >1.3 million Americans traveled to Mexico for medical care in 2024, contributing an estimated $430 million annually to border economies. Yet despite these staggering numbers, most healthcare executives and policymakers remain unaware that U.S. citizens have quietly built a sophisticated, bi-national healthcare system that operates in parallel to America's traditional medical infrastructure.https://kogod.american.edu/news/the-hidden-healthcare-infrastructure-americans-cross-the-border-to-find
>>538162674It does not. Your backlogs and missed diagnoses are literally getting worse every year because all the money is going to the “oppressed” subhumans that couldnt maintain civilization.
>>538162760>post made in IsraelShalom rabbi
>>538162748A) more are coming- we haven’t hit Wisconsin or Michigan yet, but alsoB) that’s more than enough to stop/force legislation through.That and on top of all of that regardless- there’s a momentum you would ignore at your own peril. The people are responding to the moment, and the fastest way to lose is to ignore them when they very clearly and directly tell you what they want
>>538159105>free things>FREE THINGS!That's pretty much it. Coddled retards voted for this because they'd never seen the actual horror of socialism. There's no such thing as democratic socialism, just socialism.Some people just can't extrapolate, they have to see and be affected directly by this. Enjoy the ride.
>>538162934Your country is about to dip below 50% white and you're looking down on other countries that are still 75%+ white, you are too stupid to appreciate how stupid you are
>>538162385>Government actually can just mandate that these things happen and make them happen, in whatever dumb form that takes.Yeah, just like in 2020 when a bunch of leftist city and state governments declared racism a public health crisis and suddenly racism was solved. Shut the fuck up, government is slow, corrupt, incompetent and can't accomplish anything. It fails every single time without exceptions. What does the government run well? The streets department? You probably have large sections of the city where they can't even keep up with sidewalks (if they even exist). Public schools are a disaster everywhere except wealthy enclaves. Public transit it a horror show. Universities are bloated shit. I could go on and on. "Oh buh govt can jus do things" Yeah sure bro, just one more tax increase, just one more program and it'll fix everything please bro just one more department, just one more public meeting and it'll be all sunshine and rainbows bro pls
voter id will be forced by trumpthen dems never win another electionno one wants a return to the biden nightmare
>>538162974It's like the other anon mentioned and what I posted here.>>538162839Fucking too much with private property in a place like NYC would cause the city to collapse, and that's not hyperbole. They rely way too much on property taxes and bonds. This goes for pretty much every hard blue city.
>>538162920>0.003% of the country went to Mexico for cheaper healthcare>we should completely destroy our infrastructureI thought Aussies being retarded was a meme but I guess its true
>>538162492If you killed every single brown skin in the USA you’d blush at how many socialist programs we could fund
>>538163075*0.3%
it's all browns getting elected in the DSA? how is this supposed to appeal to me again?
>>538163037>It fails every single time without exceptions. What does the government run well?in the 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s it was doing well, but then the right of the chuds starrted trying to destroy it because hurr durr muh fasvism is better ok then they used their media propaganda machines to overthrow it all and now they have put retards into the government to destroy it and say see it just doesn't work ok and heres a picture of you
>>538163075>>538163122>Calling others retarded>Can't even do basic mathwew
>>538163168The country was over 80% white during each of those decades.
>>538162786Jews are inherently left wing people. >>538162813>uhm, the definitions you’re meant to use according to a jew…Stinks of “we cant impose restrictions on business without admitting marx was right” pilpul. Leftist legalism, the talmud with picked and chosen holy books.The god of the right is the natural order, not principles based on historical figures rambling. Fascism is commonly understood to be white supremacist, isolationist, and traditionalist. Since the god of fascism is the natural order, apparently arbitrary actions that run counter to typical principles are acceptable and celebrated. A principle can not be correct for a specific situation if it is not working out. The right you think is the right is actually a pseudo-libertarian movement falling to the same corruption as “real communism” does. Since they believe in freedom and the fantastical human spirit, rather than the real human animal, they are rapidly subverted.
>>538162920>There are Americans travelling to Mexico to get healthcare because the US system is so expensive and dysfunctional. I cannot believe Americans are so propagandized they have been convinced by insurers that they don't even want public healthcare.Because healthcare is cheaper in Mexico. And hair transplants are cheaper in Turkey. You know what else is cheaper in 3rd world countries? Literally everything. Food. Real estate. Medications. Cars. Everything. Maybe if you were an actual adult you might understand that things have prices and we as individuals can choose what to purchase. Instead you, an incomplete person, waits in line for the government to assign you to a GP and assign you your medications, because you're such a dependent serf you can't even imagine having agency over your own healthcare decisions any more than you can fathom being responsible for your own self-defense. You truly are a cucked race.
>>538163168>in the 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s it was doing wellNo I'm pretty sure the city bus system always sucked. I'm pretty sure people in the past still bitched about potholes.
>>538162974>momentumBrown people voting to take more wealth from white people. For white people not to send them home. Sadly whites are civilized and won’t do shit unless told it’s legal and moral. They have no social immune system without ethnonationalist fascism.
>>538163339>city bus systemthats socialism anyway, am i right
>>538160741>liberal promises are BS that will never impact your life.See ->>538162883The liberal (aka socialist, aka Communist) policies vs the "right-wing" are the equivalent of the animals being given the ability to raid the pantry that had hitherto been kept well-stocked by prudent and wise gathering, storing, and rationing if the resources necessary for the family to live and thrive. Without the understanding of the concept of nation, that is, a people living to preserve their existence as one living entity, bound together by blood bonds, one can never have a proper understanding of what allowed civilization to develop and thrive nor why or how it has been brought to ruin.
>>538159105>What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?Actually raising your wages through mass deportations. Something you wont ever achieve. That and not being faggot degenerates who wont make it another generation l. A future you cannot offer.
>>538159105Free shit is always popularBut, you won't be getting any of itDiscord trannies and gayper defectives are going to push DSA hard at disaffected anons getting screwed by the system
>>538161940They are hopelessly brain washed
>>538163429>wages going up>everThat’s not capitalism
>>538163008You’re too stupid to understand where you’re headed right now. Privatization is required past the diversity threshhold. It results in nonwhites and evangelical christian wiggers failing disproportionately. This is the point. The majority of them can only drain a public resource. The fellow whites, the ditch diggers of our race, are collateral and this is necessary unless we instate overtly racist policies to protect them. But fucking them over is all we can do. If we were overtly racist YOUR country would be the first to enact sanctions and threaten military action.
>>538163266>Because healthcare is cheaper in Mexico.The entire point of public healthcare is that it's free at the point of use you unbelievably dumb fucker and cheaper overall because of economies of scale, everyone pays into it via taxes. You could have this too if you voted properly and weren't heavily propagandized against it.
>>538163445DSA? data structures and algorithms?
>>538159883So? They ran states in the 80s. They'll be crushed again. Those peiple are too weak to achieve anything. You people get upset over misgendering. You will not be able to push back on the ruthless forces of international capital lol. Its like watching children who think they could beat a dragon if they believe hard enough. The entire way you perceive the world is a non starter.
>>538163489They will also never travel outside the US, which would allow them to see how dumb their opinions are. Most Americans do not have passports
>>538159105A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury
>>538162974>that’s more than enoughtard hallucination
>>538159105There is none, MAGA has always been an off-ramp for right-wing nationalism
>>538163510take the next step and become like mea kingistlet everything be cheap and or freegirlsconcrete cabinsfooddymaxion car tirling engine burn hydrogen gasflibe.com atlantropa free energygreenarrays.com computingking now gak the jews boot orc inc mik wop feminists
>>538163503... is that why the highest wages ever earned are all western countries? LolYou dumb nigger. The world you want will never exist, and the sooner you realize that the sooner you'll start helping yourself and not expecting to be saved. You know, like a white man.
>>538163503>thats not real capitalismCapitalism is a jewish spook. The WHITE economy is a mostly free market with private property guaranteed to individuals and families (which only works if only heterosexual marriages are legally significant) with arbitrary but necessary interventions up to and including temporarily nationalizing select industries. The white man’s economy is and historically has been both capitalist and socialist depending on the situation. We have even made significant use of compulsory labor.
>>538163505>The fellow whites, the ditch diggers of our race, are collateral and this is necessary unless we instate overtly racist policies to protect them.Why wouldnt we do that?
>>538163168>then they used their media propaganda machines to overthrow it allthe sheep cope-projection
>>538159105>Segregating taxes to contribute to those that themselves contribute is totally the same as hateNo it's notForcing me to pay for my own replacement is hate. Turning a glorious and worshipped 92% white populace territory into a 35% usurious hellscape is hate. If I did that to ANY Mexican town o ANY Chinatown or ANY jeet sector: the population would interpret my actions as hate against them specifically.What you promote while offering zero solutions is a waste of time you are targeting at people you hate.
>>538159105I think housing as a human right is a good idea. Even for the soulless fentanyl junkies who will never amount to anything. Sorry miggers, I know this concept makes you shit your pants in a violent rage.
>>538163672truth is king is best1 day work weekinstant tek adoption and mass production
>>538163264>Fascism is commonly understood to be exactly what jew Noam Chomsky redefined it as decades after the world's experiences with akshual Fascism where the corporations were married in to the governmentall you're telling us is that you believe whatever your handlers put in front of you
>>53816351050% of our taxes go to public services. ALL of them are sucked dry by nonwhites. They have a massive net negative budgetary impact, on par with subhuman whites/crackers/hicks but 10x more numerous and 10x more eager to take as much as possible to live in the city and subsist off fast food.
>>5381631981.3 million out of 342 is 0.03%, I corrected myself retard
>>538163713king would give 10 free concrete dome cabisn per white maleand girl slaves1 day work week
>>538163713Why the fuck should anyone owe anyone else housing? House yourself or fuck off.
>>538163266>Maybe if you were an actual adult you might understand that things have prices and we as individuals can choose what to purchaseholy fuckin shit and this retarded tranny is trying to use this line along with the state should just own and run it and tell you what services you must purchase and you have no choice in the matter
>>538163562>A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasuryBoomers figuring that out, plus corporate behaving like cartoon villains is why we are here
>>538160741>you realize that liberal promises are BS that will never impact your life. It's all either lies or grift.Part of growing up is realizing that government employees are so incompetent and stupid that even if you had an infinite number of them they could never even agree with each other to solve the simplest problems. We've been propagandized by NASA and the MIC to believe that they could solve any problem they set their minds to, but the truth is that 99% of the government are DMV-tier nigger DEI employees who couldn't manage a gas station if their lives depended on it
>>538163674Because (((international capital))) would say that’s both not real capitalism, and opposed to the principles of emancipation and liberty, and excaberates marxist alienation, or whatever, and enact weimerica as punishment. Up to and including a WW3 solely to prevent white people from once again, just supporting themselves instead of serving everyone else.
>>538163745The vast majority of your taxes go to retirees. 22% to social security, 14% to Medicare. Medicaid primarily goes to people with long-term disabilities and nursing homes. Very little of this 50% budget goes to 'brown people' or whatever bullshit you think it goes to https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/a-closer-look-at-who-relies-on-medicaid
>>538163713>retard doesn't understand positive vs negative rightsthe government conscripting workers to secure positive rights has always ended catastrophically, because the wages are always worse than free-market laborsee: UK healthcare
>>538163510>helping the corporations out with a government mandate to buy their services and have the costs so hidden that you will never see them is cheaper because its done at scaleits amazing what passes for logic in the mind of retarded useful idiots
>>538163832No. Brown people being let in and communism is how we got here. Boomers and corporations existed in the past decades where life was just fine.
>>538163866I thought the whole point of white nationalism was to fight international capital. How are you calling your self a fascist and immediately admitting defeat to international capital?
>>538159105>What is the right wing equivalent of communism?you know the answer. until that party springs into being i'm voting dsa just for the acceleration factor
>>538163933The point is creating and securing a white nation state.
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>>538163037>Yeah, just like in 2020 when a bunch of leftist city and state governments declared racism a public health crisis and suddenly racism was solved.Holy strawman, lol. You can grasp all you want but I don't think you're getting those straws, bud.
>>538163894I don't think you understand how public healthcare works. The hospitals themselves are run by the government, not corporations. It is wild how ignorant Americans are about public healthcare.
>>538163998That doesn't address my point at all. They're getting benefits from other programs, but most of your budget goes to old people.
>>538164035Not necessarily. Public healthcare can be run by private corporations on behalf of the state. It is in many countries.
>>538164109Of course it can work that way, but at least in Australia, public hospitals are run directly by the government. General practitioners receive subsidization by the government (your bill is paid for some % by public healthcare system) but are privately run.
>>538163933The entire problem with international capital is there is no democratic solution. Democracy is for sale by definition. We can not just peacefully pass laws favoring ourselves, kindly remigrate the subhumans, and offer their shitholes trade opportunities and business investments to get them back on their feet and resume the process of human evolution. Grifters like the DSA get created as a direct response to the mere sentiment that we should do something so reasonable and rob the jews of their nation-scale fiat plantations. Only violence works. And white people are paradoxically, not very violent. Our niggest wites are only mildly spicy for a flip or a spic.
>>538163971>The point is creating and securing a white nation state.we had that at the founding, but then lazy whites imported infiniti niggers to work the feilds. Then later rightoid capitalists destroying manufacturing and imported infiniti immigrants to pay them less.you are trash and your ideas are trashright wingers are worse than niggers
>>538164198Okay, but you just called all of America ignorant for understanding that a private corporation can run a hospital for the government. You understand how ironic that is, right?
>>538159105>universal healthcare>tuition free college>housing is a human rightI will go to war against you. You do not have the right to my money for your benefits. I only begrudgingly support our current shitty healthcare system which taxes the hell out of me as it is. I refuse to pay more.>anti AI/data centersI agree with this.
>>538164267His post implied that the public system is organized with the government paying corporations to run the healthcare system for them, go re-read it idiot
>>538164227Leftists destroyed manufacturing by implementing a minimum wage, dumbass. What do you think that countless rust belt factories are sitting empty and abandoned right now?
>>538164328I don't care what he said. I was replying to you.
>>538163971Can't do that without fighting international capital. Thats your main obstacle >>538164208>And white people are paradoxically, not very violentWe conquered the world with blood and steel. We've just been pacified. That needs to change
>>538164071>fat niggers and spics with no income dont get oldOh but they do. Just like fat crackers with no income. And they disproportionately suck up more welfare they ever paid into. Supporting the dregs of our own race was taxing enough. Now 50% of the country is as objectively unevolved as its original bottom 30%, and the bottom 30% still exists. A US that is less than 50% white can not be socialist without collapsing.
>>538164330The actual reason for that is China joining the WTO, which enabled mass outsourcing of manufacturing. Clinton did this in 2000, but it was bipartisan, because nobody hates American workers like the uniparty
>>538163882https://youtube.com/shorts/IFRbzMOSSGk?si=VlobtBzdUvJzrP-Mgov n jew print money thin air uk health care was model for world b4 jews started fukin it up bigtime in 80s
>>538164330the minimum wage had to be raised because rightoids just want slaves, which I already proved.
>>538164330That was the normalization or relations with China. Thats what hollowed out the country
>>538164348Why not?>>538164371People wouldn't wait two weeks to get goods from China if the factory down the street from them could make it for the same price.
>>538164383The left is the entire reason jews were even allowed in this country. Get over it, youre entire world view is literally what enabled the world around you
>>538164383Slavery crippled the economy of the south. You understand that, right?>>538164390It was the cost of goods.
>>538159105>What is the right wing offering that’s comparable?The only thing the right wing is currently offering is being scammed continuously by grifters and corporate interests and eventually being raped to death, while pretending that nothing can be done about it.>>538163037>What does the government run well?As someone who has been continuously using the USPS since the early 90s, the USPS used to be an amazing shipping service that actually turned a profit for the .gov before FedEx/UPS/etc lobbied the Republican party and made them cripple it and force it to run poorly. Also, other countries that aren't full of corrupt scam artists have services that seem to work just fine. The fact is, some services need to be inefficient because pushes to seek efficiencies via the private sector are just a way to scam tax dollars. The whole push to eliminate "welfare queens" was one example, where strict enforcement to try and prevent the situation from occurring ends up costing a huge amount more than just letting a literal handful of scumbags slip through the cracks until you arrest them through normal building-a-case-over-time style police work.
>>538159105>It’s because these policies are directly addressing people’s material needsFree Shit for Everyone has been the end of several civilisations. It's why you need 100+IQ societies to have anything resembling a democratic country. Dumb people always vote for more.Eventually though, this ends up with governmental collapse. You can't give people what you can't extract from others.
>>538164348“We” conquered the world by harvesting our underclass for cannon fodder and STILL had trouble getting them to kill people without advanced ranged weapons to make it less personal and the worlds largest murder-drone brainwashing program. Meanwhile a nigger will behead someone on a whim. The US military spends billions trying to brainwash white people into becoming niggers. After discharge veterans are over twice as likely to commit violent crimes. We’re not naturally inclined towards violent pursuits otherwise.
>>538164426Because international capital hates the idea of the nationstate. They want freely traversable economic zones. If you cant stop them, you'll never get a white ethnostate.
>>538164426>make it for the same priceWe can't make it for the same price because chinks employ slave labor among other reasons. You can't compete with jew sponsored slave labor.
>>538159105>give people money>they immediately hand it back to the oligarchs>cry because oligarchs get richer while they get poorer>cuckservatives cry how that money could have gone to israel insteadit's over
>>538164506Just let anyone who wants to invest in the ethnostate. China did it and called it a miracle.
is left candidates believed in border security and relaxed on the tranny shit, id never vote right again lmao
>>538164487>We” conquered the world by harvesting our underclass for cannon fodder and STILL had trouble getting them to kill people without advanced ranged weapons to make it less personal and the worlds largest murder-drone brainwashing program. Meanwhile a nigger will behead someone on aWhat are you talking about? Europe conquered all of Africa and South Asia barely firing a shot, then turned those places into their own personal resorts for hundreds of years. It took basically zero cannon fodder for europe to conquer literally any other group.
>>538164543We can't make it for the same price for a large variety of economic conditions, but that's the defining factor.
>>538164566>China did it and called it a miracleChina already had an ethnostate, and has for 4000 years.
just have a kingeasily clean out orc inc jew n feminists wop mikfree concree cabins domes 30 per malewomen 0 money0 tradeflibe.com atlantropa9p.io
>>538163510>and weren't heavily propagandized against it.I don't need to be propagandized to know that I don't want to sit in a free clinic for hours alongside homeless niggers with maggots eating their infections. You have fun with your "free" healthcare though. I'm sure after they finish up with Ngubu and his 15 person extended family they'll get you right in to see the doctor.
>>538164626So what? That still disproves your point that they're incompatible.
>>538164566China got a free pass from the jews because they’re also mildly sociopathic by nature and were seen as a potential weapon, like a giant brainwashed ZOGbot. It didn’t work because sociopaths are self interested and hard to manipulate. They just like torturing small animals, not doing what jews say. China is a failed attempt at nurturing a golem state.
>>538164543usa has a bigger prison population used for slave labor than china, you dumb fox news educated retard. kys mexican, go mow the lawn
>>538164604There are multiple other reasons that you and I could spend days discussing. Ultimately it stems back to greedy jews, especially their offshoring of American manufacturing in the late 20th century
>>538164643>I don't need to be propagandized to know that I don't want to sit in a free clinic for hours alongside homeless niggers with maggots eating their infections.So you've never actually used a public healthcare system, but you're sure this is how it works. Do you ever get tired of being this dumb, or are you used to it by now?
>>538161578I have more money.Niggers, politicians and communists have less.Win-win
>>538159105Brown people so obsessed with free shit and big government
china is a 1 race kingdom since the 60s when they mass executed thier democrats
>>538164684>Moving the goalposts Thanks for playing red*it spacing schizo
>>538164720It stems from the cost of goods.
>>538164684whitey tortures more animals than anyone else. you even sterilize them and circumcise your own children for israel, so stfu about other countries. have you even gone out of momma's mobile trailer ever in your life?
>>538164717calm down jam boy
>>538164781We circumcise children so they don't get trench penis
>>538161657Flood country with more brown people and raise taxes and virtue signal how LGTBQ is so amazing and how they most be accepted and how we need to put an end to all forms of hate and enact more hate speech laws
>>538164717>fox news educatedDon't you ever dare claim that I watch kike news ever again you worthless jew nigger. And how is 5 million niggers in prison a bigger number to you than 986 million working adults in china?>>538164779Why have the costs of goods gone up despite the ability to manufacture them becoming more efficient and faster?
>>538159105>universal healthcare>tuition free college>housing as a human right>anti AI/data centersAll you need to add is ethnostates and its based
>>538164846>Why have the costs of goods gone up despite the ability to manufacture them becoming more efficient and faster?Demand increased more than supply. You really have no understanding of basic economics.
>>538163037I can't imagine pointing to 2020 as an example of government incompetence. Those glowniggers got pretty much everything they wanted out of that.And you're dodging the main point. I'm not claiming government runs things well, I'm claiming government runs things, which for a pleb who can't afford the private version is better than nothing.Keep regurgitating your boomer talking points if you want, none of it matters if it doesn't address that.
>>538164889>Demand increased more than supplyAnd why has the demand increased?
>>538164915Because people wanted those things more.
>>538159105Israel is such electoral poison now that you can run on the most batshit insane socialist platform and still win as long as you say Free Palestine and don't take kike money.
>>538164958Israel will end up funding a ruthless white nationalist dictator.
>>538164954That's not why demand has increased.
>>538159105You're living in fantasy land, dsa "momentum" collapses every cycle because it's a scam ideology that gets consumed by identity politics and open borders and doesn't even seek to improve the material conditions for anybody other than the losers like you who imagine themselves as le vanguard and a handful of minorities who get consolation prizes and photo ops. It's simply a liberal marketing experiment and not a serious alternative.
>>538164781Chink bugs can’t understand why one species can be worth more than another or why an animal can have rights, but less than a human, because you literally have no innate emotions. You can not understand why a dog’s life is more valuable than a chickens. It is incomprehensible to you. You can not understand why it is fine to castrate a dog but not a person. Is it a racial advantage to replace empathy with pure reason? All the children your drivers back over twice to save on hospital expenses tell me… maybe not. There has never been a logical reason for any life to be valuable. In absence of arbitrary passions, all life is equally worthless, or spiritual delusions make one submit to all life being equally holy (asian monks do, but the other 90% of their society sure as hell doesn’t).
>>538165008>Demand didn't actually increase because people wanted the thing more even though we already established the supply increasedYou are actually retarded. Have a good day
>>538165087Answer sincerely or fuck off and kill yourself. Why has demand increased? Does John Johnson want to buy the same car 4 times?
Op is what's called a leading questionIf you're engaging under the premise presented you're retarded, but don't worry it's likely because you're a dumb kid and there's a possibility you might grow out of itBut then it might be too late, before you truly grasp the deviousness of kikes and the joy they get from your slow torture.
>>538163908>Brown people being let inWell, yeah, that's the very biggest, most fundamental thing. But, it was Boomers and corporate kikery doing that shit, too
>>538165087Demand increased because wannabe plantation owners imported over 1/3rd of our population in less than 50 years.
>>538165129>Answer sincerely Like you did? Fucking clown
>>538164863niggers exist to prevent the ethnostate.ethnostate is the only real issue.niggers will promise a lot of things to achieve their goal of a mutt jew state.
>>538160526Also, the MIGA subhumans are shit on immigration. Their only achievement is sucking Israel's dick.
>>538165168You're like 100 years off you nigger obsessed tranny.
>>538165170Does John Johnson want to buy the same car 4 times? Answer sincerely, you dirty shitskin indian.
>>538165232What the fuck does that even mean? Make your fucking point. I already made mine.
>>538165170Demand increased because wannabe plantation owners imported over 1/3rd of the population.They also literally say they are good for the economy>they create jobs (i have to hire many more mexicans to do menial labor instead of paying fewer americans to operate and maintain a nicer facility)>they take out loans (oy vey!)>they create money (lower the value of existing money)>muh gdp
>>538165303We're talking about the collapse of the steel belt, you fucking idiot.
>>538159105>majority agree with>primariesRiiight>socialists have been winningAganist other socialists...
>>538165274>low IQ shitskin can't infer simple thingsI made the mistake of thinking you were White, my fault. You shitskins have flooded our country thanks to the efforts of jews bringing you in enmasse. Demand has gone up because you are here, not because our natural population wants to buy more of the supply. Get rid of you shitskins (along with jews) and demand will go down, naturally resulting in prices decreasing.
>>538165386We were talking about manufacturing and I claimed that the steel belt (a former American manufacturing juggernaut) collapsed and that the factories now sit empty because the cost of production had increased too much.Now you're claiming that this happened because if immigration nearly one hundred years later.
>>538159105Self fulfilling prophecies. The system itself needs to be fixed before you inject money. More 80iq ghetto women getting welfare degrees and working in government gets you what? Or are they going social darwinist economically
>>538164487>We’re not naturally inclined towards violent pursuits otherwise.
>>538165342>please read my 80 comment 4chan discussion before shitposting at meWhy did anything collapse?It’s almost like the supply of labor went up both domestically and internationally, and the labor supply is also what buys things. Labor lost value at the same time demand increased. It was bad for the economy. Good for banks and investors.
>>538165563>FAL with a SUSATI weep for my European brothers
>>538165576Okay, well inflation is caused by different things. I never claimed inflation over the past 10 years wasn't driven by immigration, so I have no fucking idea why you decided to intervene in my conversation and imply I did, nosey little faggot.
>>538165452The final chapter of the steel belts collapse tracks with both hart-celler and a large increase in working women kek. Up to half of young women were working, compared to 6% before. Was it the only thing that went wrong?No. Did it make recovery impossible and nail the coffin shut?Yes. The labor supply going up is usually a bad thing unless it’s a temporary measure to beat a deficit.
>>538165828Here. Because I'm sick of arguing with retards.
>>538164348>>538164487One aspect of colonialism/the Age of Discovery that will be controversial to discuss on /pol/ is that it relied heavily on a tremendous and TEMPORARY technological advantage. Whites were able to conquer the world because we'd leaped ahead to ships, guns, steel and logistics that gave us a big technological and cultural advantage over everyone we ran into (the clerks were at least as important as the soldiers). The character of colonialism was best seen in the conquest of Mexico, with Spanish conquistadors each being worth basically hundreds (maybe thousands) of the natives in battle due to the gap in technology.But that was centuries ago. Colonialism has been winding down and dying as other cultures/races have picked up our technology and started using it themselves; maybe even improving on it. The level of control that the authoritarian Chinese state has over its population is properly viewed by us as horrific, but it may also be a straight advancement over the forms of social control that we pioneered via things like the British Empire. It may be that the Chinese state can accomplish militarily significant things that we can't because it has a social credit score.I'd agree that White dominance of the globe was not based on Whites being inherently good at violence, but being good at technology and organization in a time when no one else was at our level, and that as those advantages degrade, so does our ability to impose our will on others.Correct action in the near future will depend on properly understanding that we are waning, whether we like it or not. Our goal is to staunch the bleeding, not to keep the global dominance we can't hope to keep.
>>538163866Isn't that preferable to dying this slow, miserable way? I mean, there's a possibility it would succeed anyway.
>>538165925> Was it the only thing that went wrong?>No.>Did it make recovery impossible and nail the coffin shut?>Yes.Higher wages with a growing labor supply has the same effect as socialist policy. Wealth can not be distributed perfectly and collapses happen. They work fine if there is a stable and naturally cooperative population. But with immigration and womens rights, a large number of people at the bottom HAVE to fail for the ones at top to stay afloat and the state can either roll back their “right” to be labor and make them once again the welfare recipient of their husband/deport them, or try to take over as the provider rather than the husband/home country.
>>538164035the entire us government is corporations since 1871, retard
>>538166095You're totally ignoring our extreme IQ advantage which applies to everyone but north eastern Asians. Something like that never goes away. It's genetic.
>>538160741>Low taxes. Great for jews.What about everyone else?
>>538166224How is paying high taxes good for anyone or anything?
>>538159105>Socialiststhey're just non "clinton" democrats
>>538166095The chinese state can already accomplish something we can’t and social credit is how they ensure they always can without meeting domestic resistance. Human wave attacks and meat shields in general. Muslims can also do this.
>>538164732>So you've never actually used a public healthcare system, but you're sure this is how it works. Do you ever get tired of being this dumb, or are you used to it by now?So you've never actually used a private healthcare system, but you're sure you know how it works. Do you ever get tired of being this dumb, or are you used to it by now?
>>538166264It's good if the taxes are on the people who have been receiving MASSIVE handouts via goverment money printing.
>>538164470>the USPS used to be an amazing shipping service that actually turned a profit for the .gov before FedEx/UPS/etc lobbied the Republican party and made them cripple it and force it to run poorly.retarded lefttard history rewrites
>>538166368How?
>>538166207>our extreme IQ advantageThat's a meme.IQ can easily be increased and decreased across generations.And even than it only has a 0.4 correlation with general success.
By definition it's not socialism unless the workers control the means of production.
>>538166456>IQ can easily be increased and decreased across generations.Evidence of this?
>brown socialism is le BAD>but orange socialism for corporations is le GOODwhy are miggers like this?
>>538166439Because these massive corporations have received a ridiculous amount of unearned wealth that was granted to them via money printing during Covid and other eras.You can literally see the wealth being redistributed from the middle to the top if you bothered looking at wealth distribution charts.So, it's only fair that this wealth be returned to the people.
>>538160741I can't even tell if this is satire or not
>>538166553Don't you think the middle class needs places of employment, you fucking idiot? You can't be middle class without a JOB.
>>538166494Historical Reality.Northern Europe was a subsaharan tier shithole up until relatively recently.
>>538164470>before FedEx/UPS/etc lobbied the Republican party and made them cripple it and force it to run poorly.The feds just made USPS fully fund its pensions. Why do you hate union workers? You're a liberal, you don't expect people to be responsible and invest their money in one of those evil free market 401ks, do you?! Be a good comrade and support the cradle-to-grave entitlements of organized labor. So what if it turns the USPS into a failing shithole?
>>538166358They dont know that working, triple digit IQ whites effectively get dirt cheap healthcare with the speed and quality of private doctors here, as part of our paycheck. Our wages are measured AFTER benefits. Then we pay a pocket change deductible and come out ahead. If our wages were measured before benefits we’d be claiming we all make $40+/hr on the low end. Because this is a high wage, it only functions with a stable labor supply. A company can actually pay illegals more by letting the state of california pay for their healthcare. But the illegals have legal children. Which become legitimate labor. And have to receive benefits when they work. And have to work, because when they are born here, they can not pocket $50k and go live like kings in mexico. The wealth they must receive is imperfectly distributed. The free market doesn’t work, and government efforts degrade even faster. So we collapse.We must reduce the labor supply and regulate its growthAnd intervene in the free market as effectively as possible, preferring temporary measures to principle and lasting policy Yknow, like we used to.
>>538166601>Don't you think the middle class needs places of employment, you fucking idiot?Obviously, dipshit.But the parasite class refuses to pay a fair wage, leading to a massive birthrate drop, since most can no longer afford housing.
>>538166627I thought you said it didn't correlate with general success though? So it does correlate then?
>>538166627>selective breeding works eventuallySo you admit flooding us with africans might only set civilization back 2000 years?Or more. Stupid people can maintain luxurious technology well enough. They might never have a reason to evolve. See: latin america, most of europe being latam tier.
>>538166699You have no understanding of economics at all. You're all entitlement zero education. No state or corporation can set the value of labor or housing. The market does that.
>>538165925Unions are for literal faggots, big shock they ruined everything
>>538166726Read my post, I said it did correlate with general success (in the modern West) at 0.4, which maybe better than any other metric provided by social sciences but social sciences provide shit metrics in general, so it's an accolade that is en par with being the smartest kid in a Somali class.You claimed that European superiority was genetic and functionally eternal, I proved you wrong by pointing out the backwardness of Northern Europeans throughout the MAJORITY of their history.
>>538166793>the free market will fix itKings where absent will riseEverything has to be reminded it’s not free eventually. The labor supply must be reduced. Temporary price controls may be needed to give jews a reality check. Some industries may be subject to temporary partial or complete government control (maximum effective period: less than two decades). Food production is one that may need nationalized. The system that overproduces just to try and ensure no one ever buys a competing brand for absence of their preference, while paying market adjust property taxes, doesn’t work as well as it was intended to. Subsidies aren’t helping. Control might.
>>538166793>entitlementThis is coming from the leeches who receive Billions in goverment bailouts and via money printing scheme.Fuck off, nigger
>>538164465That's a different way of saying the same thing. Minimum wages to ensure that Americans aren't worked like slaves is what incentivized companies to send manufacturing overseas to China as soon as possible, because the companies have no ability to choose the health of their nation and their own people over profit.Americans should not be forced to compete with Chinese slave labor by becoming slaves themselves, especially when the only benefit of them doing so is the increased profit of people who are already plenty wealthy and aren't even loyal to the USA.
>>538166793>The market does that.No such thing as a free market.
>>538159105How do they pay for this? I assume whites are ineligible? Fr3e everything for browns and blacks paid for by whites? Not much different than whats already going on
>>538166937> I proved you wrong by pointing out the backwardness of Northern Europeans throughout the MAJORITY of their history.What about the recent study done by the university of Glasgow that found a mother's intelligence level is the greatest indicator of their child's intelligence level?
>>538166986>who recieve BillionsESL jeet detected
>>538166998>is what incentivized companies to send manufacturing overseas to China as soon as possible,This can easily be dealt with by taxing companies that do that to shit. : )
>>538166986>Calling anyone else a niggerIronic. >>538167012Full on delusion
>>538159105>brown retards keep winning districts full of brown retardsNo way.
>>538166301Where is China using human wave attacks and/or meat shields? From what I see they're conquering the world using trade.>>538166494It's an inherent part of the IQ metric that it gets readjusted regularly to account for overall increasing intelligence to keep the average White at 100 and everyone else relative to that.
>>538167088Cool, I am a street shitting, cow shit eating jeet.I am still right.Now, fuck off.>>538167121>Full on delusionCouldn't agree more.No free market truly exists, believing in one is a full on delusion.
>>538167135Trump receive a large share of shitskin voters.So, I guess that makes Trump an orange retard.
>>538166998> because the companies have no ability to choose the health of their nation and their own people over profit.Everyone can choose when forced. >>538166937People do not magically succeed because they are intelligent (in fact, a smart enough person will NOT want to become a global superstar). European intelligence evolved before european civilization. It was warfare and hardship that drove progress, and intelligence that enabled its heights. A harsh enough environment may trigger this in shitskins (intelligence, then war) but it would take a really fucking long time and the loss of the ability to maintain our QoL gains. Some of them didn’t even develop sailing independently.We can have them evolve without hurting ourselves by confining them to their own lands, ignoring their conflicts and famines whenever possible, and engaging in but not relying on trade with them.
>>538167170You missed the korean war, where hundreds of starving, cold chinese men regularly attacked in the middle of the night.China’s present military strategy is literally weaponizing merchant ships and hoping the damage they do before all of them die is significant.
>>538167360>European intelligence evolved before european civilization. It was warfare and hardship that drove progress, and intelligence that enabled its heights.Every other places experiences warfare and hardship, such environment select for individual that are inherently violent, only organised civilisation selects against such individuals by regularly executing them for engaging in violent behavior.
>>538167170Bullshit. It's because things that can have a possible effect on IQ are not being controlled for against the motherss genetics.
>>538167360Anyhow what OP said was true.European superiority is largely tied into the industrial revolution which put European WAYYY ahead of literally everyone else and allowed Europeans to basicly buck break the rest of the planet.With the loss of such tech advantage and a return to wars of expansion, the outcome of such conflicts will change radically.
>>538159105anybody anti kike? thats it. people are voting againt aipac. there is a new superpac literally developed to counter aipac called American Priorities and its currently wrecking aipac acceptors. its not even really complex people are pissed at kikes. its that simple.
>>538167480A depressive environment with enough hierarchy and opportunity eventually selects for organisms that require high potential to reach adequacy. The winners reproduction is subsidized while the losers are liquidated. The loser class is eventually composed of the circumstantial failures of the winners bloodlines and a superior race is forged. An easy environment does not require high potential or even adequacy, or god forbid, favors failures fertility, and prompts the devolution of man. An environment where hierarchical success is oppressed will never favor evolution. See: forcing christianity, feminism, human rights, and democracy on thirdies. They need to go through city states and feudal warlord phases to populate the lower classes with the suppressed blood of nobility while eradicating those who are equal in practice but lower in potential. We need to let them have their wars and primitive dictatorships if they are ever to be more than a nation sized genetic disease.
>>538165452>We were talking about manufacturing and I claimed that the steel belt (a former American manufacturing juggernaut) collapsed and that the factories now sit empty because the cost of production had increased too much.putting the cart before the horsesteel belt collapsed because the corporations worked with the government to drop barriers to them doing it in other countries and paying 3rd world poors one twentieth of what they were paying american workersnow "the cost of production is too high" because the gift to the corporations of exceptionally cheap production in other countries is factored in
>>538167624Europeans had to evolve high enough intelligence to have an industrial revolution in the first place. Most of our history was just liquidating peasantry while the smartest people had 12 kids each.
>>538166582>I can't even tell if this is satire or notYou think government corruption & inefficiency is some sort of myth, joke or meme? Do you have anything to say, or are you just a screenbrained zoomer who goes "Dude..." and thinks it's an argument?
>>538167973none of her stances mattered. even the media knows it. you could pr3each low taxes all you want as EVERY FUCKING CANDIDATE DOES nobody says "hey ill fucking tax you more bud"
>>538159105.• Not a groyper.• Not a RINO.• Far Right.• Make use of effective Right-wing economic systems to make it breathable for the average White person.• Can Fight Iran, while can manage economy.• Pro-Oil, Nuclear, and energy, and so on. No Green Tech involved.
They come from shitty countries so what do you expect them to do better here? They will ruin this country and turn it into a third world shithole like their own country...Keep being stupid and wanting people like this in charge of things...You will learn the hard way I guess...Sometimes there is no way out afterwards so enjoy the lies and misery...
>>538167115you mean...like.....with.....TARIFFS?
>>538159105socialism is inevitable at this point. the wealthy are sucking up more and more resources and refuse to do anything meaningful with it, so it will be taken from them one way or another.
>>538167921It collapsed because unions inflated wages. >>538165925
>>538167115No, it can be solved by threatening the owners with permanent confiscation if they even attempt to outsource. When the company is re-privatized neither they, nor their descendants or any associates thereof would not regain control. This is conducive to a self sufficient peaceful nation but not a golem superpower. Such a nation would have to conquer land to be able to sustain the level of military aggression israel’s safety demands. Otherwise it would sit in place and nuke anyone who invaded it.
>>538168140Again, it's not possible. >Hospitals>Police>EMT>FirefightersAll funded by property taxes.
>>538168034>you could pr3each low taxes all you want as EVERY FUCKING CANDIDATE DOES nobody says "hey ill fucking tax you more bud"Democrats literally say this. They get all horned up and giggly at phrases like "tax the rich" even though they are the rich, and any taxes levied on the rich quickly expand to cover the vast majority of people.
>>538168312no they dont. you are a retard.
>>538168312Democrats say tax the rich, millionaires bad, and then drive small businesses out and buy them up because unlike those dastardly millionaires, they can afford the taxes. Commies always gut the productive class.
>>538168389capitalists always kill the working class, who are the actual productive class
>>538168280sure it's possible. you just don't want to admit it that there are alternatives to Capitalism. things will change.
>>538168456Socialists kill the productive class.
>>538168510How will you fucking fund hospitals or the police without the income from property taxes? You're an insane delusional retard.
>>538168529Billionaires don't produce things they just own things
>>538161650>Americ ais, at tis core, an anti-Christian and leftist countryI fucking wish, we wouldn't such a brown shit hole that sucks Israeli cock all day of this were true.
>>538168228>It collapsed because unions inflated wages.it doesnt help to leave out the other half of the problem>It collapsed because unions inflated wages and the government balanced this by rewarding the corporations with removal of barriers to fuck the citizens over and take the whole motherfuckin plant outside of the countrybut I'm sure you'll like to stick with the part that ignores the internationalist angle trying to fuck over the plebes of all nations
>>538168529jews kill the productive class.you are a literally a rabbi by any other name making excuses as your empire crumbles. unable to understand why.
>>538168566>How will you fucking fund hospitals without the income from property taxes?is this nigger serious
>>538168574They pay people to produce things.>>538168583>Anyone who criticism communism is Jewish Guess Hitler was Jewish>>538168649I'm serious though. Property taxes are used to fund public services. How will you do that without collecting property taxes?
>>538161743>one area of american went full private>all private services>THINK OF THE SAVINGS THE EFFICIENCY BRO HOLY SHIT>They saved millions bringing everything in house.Oopsy.
>>538168789>They pay people to produce thingsAnd they parasitically leech off the excess value of those people's labor.
>>538168868There's no such thing. It's a Marxism delusion. You don't learn that in real economics.
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>>538168815hittin the sauce early tonight?
>>538168971right wing democrats and right wing republicans put the riches rax burden onto everything... the DSA will actually tax the rich and make everyones lives better and thats why the right is freaking out about them and pretending they are just so so bad
>>538159105turns out making everything shittier and crying like a bitch isnt a good strategy to get elected
>>538168904Where does profit come from then?
>>538169372Sometimes there is none and a company goes bankrupt.
>>538169134They will just leave and you'll end up with less tax revenue.
>>538166655Didn't this also involve them having fully funded pensions for employees they haven't even hired yet? If that's true, is this a normal thing to do for private corporations?
>>538160134Ending mass immigration and deporting immigrants already here means an end to the race-to-the-bottom of wages, far less upward pressure on the housing market, and less strain on infrastructure and finite natural resources. It means a stronger tax base as well, so things like universal healthcare and government-funded college can actually be paid for. The latest realization in politics is that the left pretends to be retarded, making real political discourse impossible. OP is an excellent example of this. “It’s just racism” isn’t something you actually believe to be true. You know there are legitimate reasons to remove these stinky bean people.
>>538169508>They will just leaveno they wont. Especially if dems win the midterms and then the presidency, they they can create a billionaire hunter task force to hunt down deadbeats and make them pay their taxes.They could even name it the LUIGI act to trigger them
>>538169466I ask again where does profit come from?
>>538168789>property taxes are used to fund hospitalspress X to doubt`
>>538169788They move to avoid new taxes all the time.
>>538170362And I say again, there isn't always profit. >>538170373This is the problem with socialists. You have no idea how the world works.
>>538170505Its an easily solvable problem with legislation. They should not be able to escape responsibility for the great prosperity that america provided them. They should be hunted down like you are I are if we dont pay our taxes. For too long they have been given special treatment.
>>538169134>right wing democrats and right wing republicans put the riches rax burden onto everythinYou're a drunk and/or low IQ retard making an appeal to the fabled "middle class tax cut" that Dems never seem to implement.
>>538159286>I hate black and brown socialists now give me power so I can steal oil for jews and rape children
>>538170743>Dems never seem to implement.thats why the DSA is rising. If they overthrow the right wing dems you will see things improve for the average person. Instead of raping the 99% the rich will be slightly inconvenienced... and just wait for their seething, you will hear in the media that they are being killed but they are just too entitled and not used to being treated like we are.
>>538170610How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>538166095>the other races will rise, any second now!>we just need more of white people's money
>>538170963every single win is in an area that has more people moving out than moving intax base leaving is a bad thing
