It's already unable to maintain unity any longer, and starting to split apart into dozens of sects. By the end of the decade it will be no more lmoa.
>>538168478Says the puritan with 30,000 flavors of protestant churches on his mainland
>>538168478Catholicism =/= Christianity
>>538168478>starting toAnd the last thousand years don't count because?
Redpill: the catholic church is going to go extinct. Either to gaytheism (atheism) or from people being redpilled on how subversive and gay it is.Eat shit you dirty fucking goyim cattle.
>>538168679>gaytheism (atheism)Milo Yiannopoulos has publicly stated that he lost his virginity at age 13. During a 2017 press conference, he alleged that this sexual encounter—along with subsequent experiences until the age of 16—was an instance of abuse involving a priest.
>>538168478>1.4B Catholics>1400(if) SSPXKek can you find a nothingier nothingburger
All this means is people in sspx leadership go to hell
What we have now is classism being disguised as racism and sexism. It is identical to 1913 Russia, but instead of poverty, the socialists' subversion is in the form of leveraging racial and gender inequities, instead of class. The socialists cannot use class/wealth now to subvert, b/c the socialists ARE the meritless, central bank-funded elitists.It is the only way they have left to sow discontent and wrestle more power away from a UNIFIED POPULATION (like Catholicism which is 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE, which is why shills like OP try to undermine it--LOL, who the fuck cares what others do spiritually?).We cannot have unearned income at the expense of earned income and productivity. The debauchment of our currency by the NYFed’s QE and the nationless globalists looking to tax, license, collect fees, datamine, and monetize every aspect of humanity.Unfortunately today, only the sleaziest, most corrupt, dumbest, laziest, narcissistic and most compliant are rewarded.FINANCE MUST BE THE SERVANT OF PRODUCTION, NOT ITS MASTER.
>>538168478because the pope is doing retarded shit like saying all religions are equal anyway and everyone is savedwhy the fuck would you care if someone like that threatens to excommunicate you.after all, he himself said being part of his church is not necessary for salvation
I am nonironically the savior of the whole world.
>>538168478Basically if you are not Catholic you are part of a demon worshipping pagan cult
>>538168861No because they're shills and whiny doomposters who think a couple hundred people speak for a billion or have anything to do with it
>>538168478Catholicism is literally paganry. Muslims don't even call them infidels, they specifically call Catholics pagans, because that's what they are
>>538168478Martin Luther was right
>>538169113>The socialists cannot use class/wealth now to subvert, b/c the socialists ARE the meritless, central bank-funded elitists.>It is the only way they have left to sow discontent and wrestle more power away from a UNIFIED POPULATION (like Catholicism which is 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE)pic fucking related:Kek, guess when Epstein and Bill Clinton and Larry Summers (the US Treasury Secretary 1999-2001) were all hanging out together on this chart? the late 90s- early 2000's, that's when:>bill clinton was pres>larry summers was treasury secretary>when Clinton counted Social Security twice and everyone thought we had a surplus>when they repealed Glass-Steagall b/c everyone thought we had a surplus for THE FIRST TIME IN 100 YEARS (pic rel), but that turned out to be a fucking lie, toowait until i update this chart lol
>>538168478You mean the same subhumans that made a female a Bishop? Yeah they should kill themselves and their supporters too. Christianity is a big meme by now. Vatican II is a satanic joke.
>>538169341Isn't that a good thing? Abraham obviously wasn't white
>>538169272All Christians are Catholic by default!
>>538168679Dare I say
>>538169419In a way, but on the other hand it is objectively heresy based on their own theologyI at least expect religions to be self-consistent with their major principles (they all have inconsistencies with the minor ones)
>>538169341Oh, if pedo worshippers say it, it must be true!
Also:Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. I never even heard this term until I was 40 and I am Catholic.Judaism is the Old Testament (aka the Torah), it is about revenge, an eye for an eye.Christianity is the New Testament (aka the Bible), it is about forgiveness, turn the other cheek.Judaism is not the bearer of Christianity, but its antithesis.Noah (not jewish)----> Abraham (not jewish)---->Isaac (not jewish)---->Jacob (not jewish)---->JUDAH is from whom the JEWS descended and they lived in JUDEA.NONE of the biblical people BEFORE Judah are jews. It amazes me how many people do not know this.There were 12 tribes of Israel from the 12 sons of Jacob.ONLY the tribe from Jacob’s son Judah are ‘Jews’ (these were aka the Judaites), the other 11 Israel tribes are NOT Jewish. It also amazes me how many people do not know this, either.Out of 2.3 B Christians, there are ~7M evangelicals that hope for jews to go back to israel, they follow the book of revelation, which the other 2.3 B Christians laugh at (pic related) kek no one thinks of jews when they think of Jesus
>>538168865Would they have gone to hell if they died after Benedict recognized that no excommunication took place but before these consecrations? Is bishop mallerais in hell right now?
>>538168554OP is most likely a jew
>>538169113So the elites are trying to leverage racial inequalities to keep us divided because they are afraid of a unified population that racism bringsYou might be the dumbest fuck on /pol/ rn
>>538169530>I expect religions to be self-consistent
>>538169367correct About papistsAbout jewsAbout mohammedansAnd, of course, about sweet, sweet nun pussy
>>538168679It's because of Vatican 2
>>538169647>eliteslol, stop USING THIS FUCKING WORDelite (n) - the best of a category, the finest, etc. (i.e. this could also apply to turnips)elitist (n) - one who thinks they are better than othersThere is a difference between the two.Calling the worst of what humanity has to offer the "elite" is wholly untrue. Elitist, yes. Elite, no. holy fuck
>>538169647>are afraid of a unified population that racism bringswut
>>538169577>NONE of the biblical people BEFORE Judah are jews.But Jesus was
>>538169736So what does that make us for letting them rule unchallenged?
>>538169581If you're a bishop or priest and use the powers without being in communion with the catholic church you go to hell unless the pope forgives you. It's possible schismatic people don't go to hell but all their masses are black masses that desecrate the euchrist
>>538168478this has been how it's always been. a bunch of traitors to the church split off and make their own church. and now we have 12 gorillian churches but only 1 true church
>>538168478It's been crumbling for the past several decades, slowpoke.
>>538169811Bishops can make new bishops and priests even if they are atheists or heretics and they're still bishops or priests if they go to hell. Nobody can revoke it
>>538169736>stop USING THIS FUCKING WORDYou literally used it you dumb fuckYou know what I meant don't throw tantrums over a word you little bitch
>>538169796Yes, but it's more complicated than that Modern Jews are mostly from Edomities, Israelites looked like Greeks according to joshsphues "And when he had given them leave, they also hid the circumcision of their genitals, that even when they were naked they might appear to be Greeks. Accordingly, they left off all the customs that belonged to their own country, and imitated the practices of the other nations."
>>538169759Well that's your logic, read your own post again
>>538168478Oh no a schism, that’s never happened. In 400 years they’ll look just as stupid as all the other protestant sects with female pastors and pride flags. >>538168555Catholicism is the only Christianity. Others can only be saved by things they received from the church. The Catholic Church produced the nicene creed. The Catholic Church canonized the Bible. The Catholic Church defined essential theology like the hypostatic union that protestants affirm is necessary to believe. Also, cool name, protestants. What are you protesting? Oh the Catholic Church? Your identity is that you’re protesting the Catholic Church? That’s cool. Kinda sounds like we're in the church and you’re not since you identify as a protestor.
>>538168478Was Jesus Catholic or Protestant?
>>538169811Is bishop mallerais in hell?
>>538169948What about Orthodoxy?>>538169955Probably Catholic
>>538169796nopeJesus was the son of God and no one knew who Mary wasyou're obviously not Christian, b/c if you were you would know thatJesus is a feeling, not an indoctrinationJesus rejected the jewsJesus is a feeling of contentment, being at peace with yourself and others--this is very threatening to the classist, skillless idiots trying to herd society today and WHY TODAY ONLY THE STUPIDEST, MOST CORRUPT, MOST COMPLIANT AND LAZIEST ARE REWARDED
>>538169948The Catholic Church is a pagan institution masquerading as a Christian one and its followers are damned for that fact. Get right with God before it's too late.
>>538169976I don't know if anyone at all is in hell. What he did isn't any worse than being eastern orthodox which also has valid bishops and preists
>>538169904no I used the word elitist, not elite, learn to fucking read keki know the difference between the two
>>538170025So Jesus prayed to statues of his own mother? Interesting.
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>>538168478HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>538169955Jesus is the invisible head and high priest of his kingdom, the mystical body of Christ. A corporate entity (meaning literally made of bodies) that is institutionalized through the catholic church. The pope is the visible head of the church, a tradition that began in the gospel when Jesus gave Peter the keys and made him the head of the church. If you don’t have a pope, you don’t have a church. If your pope doesn’t trace back in an unbroken line to Peter, you’re not in the right church.
>>538169736>Calling the worst of what humanity has to offer the "elite" is wholly untrue.>Elitist, yes. Elite, no.pic related
>>538170111>no I used the word elitist, not eliteWow potato patato and you're throwing a tantrum over it you are an utter imbecile
>>538170074>What he did isn't any worseBeing a Catholic bishop is much less worse than being a schismatic! Still, how can the previous bishops consecrated in 88' be legitimate, but the bishops consecrated today be illegitimate if they were consecrated using the same principle?
>>538170179That's not true they are valid churches with the Eucharist they are just illicit.
>>538168478Notice each one of those bishops has hair missing exactly where the little hats would fit
>>538169955>wasfalse premise
>>538170264A bishop can make anyone he wants to be a bishop it has nothing to do with their beliefs
>>53816847899% of SSPX guys are recent converts that don't want to actually join the Church, they just wanted the aesthetic of capital T Tradition without actually absorbing the real traditions of the Church
>>538170130lol, no Christian thinks of jews when they thionk of jesus except the kooky evangelicalsyou're obviously not Christian
>>538169670Luther sucked muslim cock, muttoid
>>538170179What if they all die in some catastrophe like a plane crash? What happens to the church then?
>>538170025Orthodox is almost exactly the same as catholic except they’re not in communion with the pope. If you like eastern orthodox you should look into byzantine catholics or eastern catholics. They have the same liturgy, practices, and “feel” of the orthodox while being in communion with rome. I know of several jews that converted to byzantine catholic so they get to keep the style they like while remaining in the “correct” church.
>>538169948arrogant slave you don't know a thing about faith, only servitude
>>538170372The opening words of the Augsburg Confession are about how evil the Turks are.
>>538170330How can the latatae sentetiae excommunication be invalid in 88' but be valid in 26'?
>>538168478>5,430 total bishops in the Catholic Church>Four retarded "traditionalists" decide to break away and form their own retarded cult>"OMG GUYZ THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TOTALLY FALLING APART!!!!!!!!">"OY VEY, IT'S ANUDDA SCHISM!!!!!"Are /pol/tards so starved for a real happening that you faggots will latch onto irrelevant minor bullshit like this?
>>538170294Is Jesus Catholic or Protestant or Orthdox?
ok my lunch is overty 4chan for your free speechwhat a beacon of light you are in this dark age
>>538169645Every christkike is a jew larper
>>538170372>muttoidThat's rich coming from a macaco
>>538170454You can't be excommunicated by humans. They just view the law and make a guess. Making a bishop without permission of the Pope is a automatic excommunication
>>538168555>>538169272>>538169341
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>>538170267Roman "Catholics" do not have the eucharist. They have illicit "priests" give out some fucken matza wafers and pretend like it's the bread and wine of Christ's supper.
>>538170558Lol what does Jesus give Peter in the KJV instead of the keys to heaven and earth? A Denny's coupon?
>>538170408I would throw that back on you (pause) and suggest you haven’t fairly looked into catholicism and have misunderstandings about it. I too relied on private interpretations and it wasn’t until I read about catholic doctrine for years and located all the scriptural bases for it that I realized they’re right about literally everything. >>538170051This is so stupid that there’s no point in spoonfeeding you the truth. You either seek the objective truth or you don’t. To arrive at that conclusion means you aren’t even trying to discern what’s true because that’s not what you care about.
>>538170348>the real traditions of the ChurchCharlemagne?The Pornocracy?The different competing Popes each excommunicating each other?That tradition?
>lol
>>538170666A human can't tell if someone is in communion with God or not
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>>538170666He's not a protestant.
>>538168845This Jew attended an Anglican school.
>>538170524You realize the slur kike refers to jewish hatred and fear of Jesus right? Calling the Eternal Son of God a kike is anachronistic. It’s I’ll advised for a variety of other reasons that shouldn’t require enumeration.
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>>538170595As opposed to the rest of /pol/ which is harmonious and not full of bickering. Honestly in the 10+ years I've been on this dogshit board the laziest dipshit contrarian opinion that still gets mileage is declaring all sides to be controlled by jews and that your aloofness makes you better somehow
>>538170354The bible says Jesus was a jew
>>538170662Even if they were illicit it would still be the real presence
>>538170710The Catholic Church recognizes its humanity and therefore its flaws, prots can only splinter as soon as they can no longer delude themselves into believing their church is the Perfect City on a Hill(tm)
>>538170789Yes you can, rationally. I know I’m in a state of sanctifying grace once all sins are confessed and I’ve had the eucharist, literally called communion. You don’t believe in the real presence of the eucharist? Read John 6. All Christians believed in transubstantiation for the first 1600 years, including even Martin Luther. Profaning this sacrament is a brand new phenomena in church history. St ignatius of antioch affirmed it and he studied directly under St. John the Apostle.
>>538170973>1523 your quote >1543 On the Jews and Their LiesHe lived in a time without /pol/, don't fault him for taking some time to realize the truth.Be thankful that he wrote down what he did so others could find truth faster.
>>538170397Much appreciated,ty.The things that scares me is Vatican 2, it's so subversive
>>538170397>Orthodox is almost exactly the same as catholicYeah, except the Orthodox have real eucharist, real priests and real saints. (Instead of the "catholic" off-brand larp.)
>>538171223Church and it's rules and sacraments is just the ordinary way of going to heaven. If you read what Catholics believe then you would know you can't tell who is in communion
>>538170862You realize that you have fallen for the pol meme? There's literally no evidence that it refers to a cross
>>538171130No, fucken matzah wafers given out by a dude in costume is not real presence.>>538171192> pretend like the bishop in Rome is a divine infallible dictator with a direct line to God> turn around and immediately have a pornocracy with three competing PopesNigga, are you serious right now? Do you even know anything about the history of the so-called catholic "church"?
>>538169759He's right. There was not as much racial tensions when everyone lived in their countries. Sometimes wars here and there but nothing like now where the world is about to implode.
>>538171225Martin Luther>Jesus was a JewAlso Martin Luther>Jews LieConclusion ?
>>538170397or rather, the patriarch of rome is no longer in communion with the restwhy did you neglect to mention all the tiny little changes roman catholicism introduced to the faith? do you think they don't matter?
>>538171265I’m the biggest Catholic defender, but I don’t affirm the church can never be wrong or something. In the end times, the institution will probably appear totally lost. My faith comes from the promise Jesus gave Peter which is “the gates of hell won’t prevail” against the church. It may go astray but it will never fall. To schism or start another church is to despair that the gates of hell did prevail, which would make Christ a liar. Impossible. >>538171290They might be valid, they might not. Depends on how merciful God is to purely ignorant people that don’t know they’re not in the real church.
>>538171485Not having a real eucharist or priests seems like a pretty big change to me, desu.
>>538171403Well you are a fringe orthodox then because most understand Catholics have valid succession
>>538171433>Conclusion ?You're an illiterate faggot
The pagan and atheist cheers as the CIA and jew tightens their grasp
>>538171591Hahaha NO REBUTTALYou chimped out and lostBetter luck next time
>>538171548The Roman catholics are not a Church at all. They're a fake and gay larp installed by Charlemagne so that he could appoint his pornocrats are religious dictators.
Degenerate /pol/tard gooners pretending to be religious and righteous people is always funny
>>538171571>most understand Catholics have valid successionIncorrect. Roman "catholics" do not have succession because it was lost during the myriad of papal schisms and scandals.The Church practices the principle of economia because untangling the truth is not possible and gives penitent former "catholics" the benefit of the doubt.
>>538171433>Simple minded word game>Knows dimwits won't read the explaination. 1) The bible says "Judean". The word jew and concept of "Jew" wasn't even intervened until 1250 A.D.2) In the Bible, the Lord says the Pharisees (talmudist) are not Judeans, but demon spawn. 3) The demons were wiped out by Hadrian, and rightfully so. 4) The ashcannazis pick up the talmud in the 8th century to fool the Christian and Mudslimes.
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>>538169796jesus's Y chromosome comes from the fatherand he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49he's not "a jew", he's god
>>538170524>"jews are god's chosen people"- "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ."- Galatians 3:16- "Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones."- Matthew 3:8-9>"you worship the same judeo-christian god"- "Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."- 1 John 2:23>"then what god do jews worship?"- "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44- "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9>"c'mon man, that was just those jews that killed jesus, not all jews for all time"- "And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.”"- Matthew 27:25>"bless israel!"israel is the church, not a blaspheming republic- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
>>538170595questions for pagans:1) what is the name of your religion2) what are it's authoritative sources3) how were your gods, the earth and humanity created4) what happens to humans when they die5) what are some sources that denounce race-mixing and homosexuality+++answers from a christian perspective:>1christianity>2the bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:16&version=NKJV>3god is the uncreated creator. he created the heavens and the earth. he created humanity in his image.>4if they lived in accordance with the will of god, they will receive eternal life in heaven. and if not, they will receive eternal death in the lake of hellfire.>5anti-race mixing: Tobit 4:12, Ezra 10:10-11, Nehemiah 13:23-27, Joshua 23:12-13anti-homosexuality: Leviticus 18:22, Deutoronomy 22:5, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Revelation 21:8
>>538171548Bible says The lord gave the keys to heaven to Saint Peter and that God the Holy Ghost would guide saint Peter. On faith and morals, the Pope is infallible and the pronouncements from the chair are indefectable, The faith can't change. But the Church today has a different faith than the Church of 1545. So, yeah. Either the Novus Ordo is not the church or the Novus Ordo and the Church of the Council of Trent are not. There's no way to say the church was wrong until the Novus ordo came along. Trent wrong breaks apostolic successionWanna be Christian? There it is. welcome to being alone. Not a church out there says the right mass and they all worship Mary according to Trent. Don't really believe and just want a social club? you're fine.
>>538168478When the Vatican went soft on gay butt-sex and trannies while exalting Islam and Muslim migrants, it basically killed itself.
>>538168478>thinks SSPX unlawfully consecrating bishops is newCould you try to acquire beginner-level knowledge on this stuff before creating threads? I know, that bar is already way too high for you. Many such cases.
>>538170707Continue to ignore me but remember as the flames of Hell first strike your soul that you were warned
>>538171663You are too stupid to understand population statistica kek
>>538171902>The word jew and concept of "Jew" wasn't even intervened until 1250 A.D.You mean the English word didn't exist before they started writing English down ?Look, this American dumbassery is getting tiresomeWord "Jew" is an English word that didn't, and doesn't, exist in any biblically relevant language like Greek, Arameic, Latin or Hebrew. Do you understand that ? Your argument is retarded.If Jews "as a concept" didn't exist then Jews didn't kill Jesus (because they didn't exist) and Jesus didn't say Jews are a Synagogue of Satan.
>>538172427Bible and ML say he was a Jewsee >>538170973 >>538170130>>538173582>Still no argumentsYour concession is accepted
>>538171693Are the pornocrats in the room with us right now anon?Or are you still just crying about the crusades and how the east lost to muslims?It is always the Roman church extending its hand to you for unity and you guys swat it away repeatedly. That’s how I know it’s the true church. Because we want unity, and you don’t.
>>538169948Jesus saves, not the Churchalso catholocism is not romanism, the ROMAN church is not THE universal Church of Christ
>>538173756There was the Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, Samaritans, and Christians who followed God. Modern Judaism didn't exist in the second temple period
>>538169341>cites Muhammadans as an authoritative source on anythingThe toppest of keks. This is the atheist/homespun genius/whatever state of mind in its full glory. >>538173003You can type stuff like that to satisfy your ego all day long, but you are objectively wrong in your claims. It probably makes you mad to hear that, but that would just be further proof of your fundamental ignorance. Instead of examining your ideas calmly and critically and studying the Catholic point of view and rebuttals of your claims, your emotions will make you just rush deeper into your ignorance. Very common. How long will it take before you are capable of a more sober assessment of things, I wonder. Maybe you should start thinking about the flames of hell more closely as something that could threaten even the mighty you when you're baselessly issuing your self-serving warnings to others. Protip: anyone making the claims you made in this thread is not just mildly ignorant. Your posts show deep ignorance combined with extreme arrogance. If you think that's a winning combination, oh boy... Never forget that your cavalier damning of others to hell based on your own ignorant notions will be the measure used on you. Your own words will come back to haunt you.
>>538170179roman catholocism is not the Church of Christ but the continued pharisaical priesthoodramonism has nothing to do with the teachings of the bible
>>538174137Pharisees don't exist anymore they went extinct. Second temple Judaism requires a temple to exist.
>>538174010Ok then.Jews didn't exist therefore they didn't kill Jesus, Jesus didn't call them the Synagogue of Satan and antisemitism is anti Christian, is that what you're saying ?
>>538174228The bible says Christians are the Jews. They're the only sect with a temple
>>538174298So Christians killed Jesus. OK
>>538174223>priests that are mediators between you and God>priests that offer sacrifices for you, the eucharist>priests that get financed by tithes from their congregation>priests that push human traditions instead of the gospelits 1 to 1 what Jesus preached against
>>538174375No, Jesus committed suicide because he could have just turned Pilate into ash. He needed to die for the prophecy and to replace the sin offerings
>>538174475That's crazy.Also Christians are Synagogue of Satan according to you.
>>538174436Judaism was never just scripture it was tradition plus scripture
>>538170595This is true of any religion. Shi'ites and Sunnis are always at each others' throats. Hasidic Jews are banned from the IDF because they try to sabotage it. Certain cults (by whihc I mean more like sects) of pagan religions were banned from Roman government and army due to their strange practices.
>>538168845Greek getting cornholed by a Greek Orthodox priest. Good heavens, what a anomaly.
>>538174651>it was tradition plus scriptureexactly what Jesus rebuked
>>538174695So Jesus told his followers to follow a book that didn't exist when him and the apostles were alive?
>>538174617It isn't really possible to know who the synagogue of Satan is people just say random groups are. The churches Jesus addressed in revelation don't exist anymore
>>538168478Yeah, orthodox Christians are last ones left.
>>538174785???Luke 4And as was his custom, he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up to read. 17 And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,John 10“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?Jesus clearly was speaking from the WRITTEN Word.
>>538174137The pharisees became the masoretes and tried to subvert Christianity in the middle ages. Clearly they succeeded because look at the jewish idolatry protestantism has wrought. Catholic priests are the continuation of the levitical priesthood. All the animal sacrifice was pointing and preparing us for Christ’s sacrifice. That sacrifice and it’s merits are present beyond space every mass when the priest does the consecration. No priest = no sacrifice, no altar, no sacraments. Protestants did the same thing the jews did which is just have people reading and interpreting scripture. That’s all rabinnical judaism is since they have no temple or sacrifice. No sacrifice, no religion. Outside of catholicism is just glorified bible study get togethers and misguided out of context personal interpretations of the scripture our church gave you.
>>538174785also the Septuagint was the Word in circulation in greek.the apostles quotes the greek septuagint in their writing.
>>538174996Scrolls of the old testament. The new testament didn't exist back then
>>538175002>Clearly they succeeded because look at the jewish idolatry protestantism has wrought.lol no, they succeeded with the roman church and the seat of Simon Magus, the apostolic succession of Judas Iscariot.
>>538175067They also quote Samaritan scripture
>>538175002>No priest = no sacrifice, no altar, no sacramentsJESUS CHRIST is BOTH, the High Priest and the sacrifice.what the roman church practices is adultery and blasphemy of the Son of God sacrificing him anew as his one time sacrifice on the cross was not enough for them.>Protestants did the same thing the jews did which is just have people reading and interpreting scripture. the catechism of the roman church is literally the Talmud 2.0, doing away with the 2nd and 4th commandment of the law of God.
>>538174436It’s precisely what he ordained. Christ gave his followers the ability to forgive and withhold sins. That’s an office he gave the church. It says in James and 1 John and in many places to confess sins to priests. Look how the gospel of Mark opens. The people are coming to John the Baptist and confessing sins. He’s not God, how dare these pagans do this? It’s all over scripture, even in the old covenant with the scapegoat sin offering. God grants authority to earthly ministers of his kingdom, like forgiving sins and casting out demons with his name.
>>538175078no shit, the apostles wrote it. but Jesus READ from the scriptures. >>538175131what samaritan scripture?
>>538174887You're Jewish, aren't you
>>538175334Samaritan scripture is different than Jewish. The defense from the Holy Spirit though Stephen in acts isn't Jewish scripture
>>538175298>Christ gave his followers the ability to forgive and withhold sins.yes, personal sins against them themselves.>21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?you cant just forgive any sin someone committed by telling them to pray the Hail Mary.everyone has direct access to Jesus Christ and have their sins forgiven if they truly repent, forgiving sins is not a out of jail free card to go and sin again.there is no man between you and Jesus Christ to have your sins forgiven. se, the thief on the cross.
>>538175123>Jesus is both high priest and victimYes, we affirm this but we still need visible rituals. We can’t just do the religion in our head. Jesus literally said “do this in memory of me.” so that’s what we do and will keep doing until he returns. >2nd commandment The iconography debate was 1,000 years ago, you missed it. We already won.
>>538175378I believe there's already a third temple so you tell me
>>538175494>The defense from the Holy Spirit though Stephen in acts isn't Jewish scriptureyes it is, its directly out of Amos.Have ye offered to me victims and sacrifices, O house of Israel, forty years in the wilderness?Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Raephan, the images of them which ye made for yourselves.And I will carry you away beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, the Almighty God is his name.
>>538174298Certain translators did. Not "the bible".
>>538175667It's not it matches the Samaritan version
>>538175651>we affirm this but we still need visible ritualsno we do not. who comes up with this shit.>Jesus literally said “do this in memory of me.” he ate Passover with his disciples, he didnt tell them to sacrifice him anew every week. this is ludicrous to justify your pagan rituals like this.>We already won.yes, the blaspheming pagans, the sons of Cain who carry his mark. worshiping God their own way instead of how God wants to be worshiped.repent and come back into the family of Adam, Abel and Seth.
>>538175597The penance is not what gives you forgiveness. It’s an outward expression of your repentance. 100% of the mercy is from the atoning work of Jesus on the cross. You just don’t like that it’s institutionalized, but that’s simply how Christ set it up. You can’t do the whole religion in your head. Sacraments are real.
>>538175736do you have a link to back yourself up?
>>538175820>but that’s simply how Christ set it uphe literally did not and neither did the apostles.in fact Jesus Christ condemned the Nicolaitans and their practices in Revelation.>6 Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Jesus hates the priest and laity class system of the roman church. come out of her my people.Jesus established us to have a direct relationship with God and not of works or sacraments.
>>538168555Protestantism= satanism
>>538169736Correct. I prefer to call themselves the establishment.
>>538175808Dude it’s not a new sacrifice. It’s the ever present one true sacrifice outside of space and time. This isn’t a debate, it’s you not even understanding what we believe. You have a bunch of common misconceptions that protestants accuse us of all time and could be fixed by simply reading basic catholic doctrine. Literally 15 seconds of research would show you not a single Catholic thinks we’re “re-sacrificing” Jesus each week. That’s completely absurd.
>>538175845Read it and compare it with the old testament it's not what's being qouted
>>538176109you believe that its the literal blood and flesh of Jesus Christ that the host is transubstantiated to thus sacrificing our Lord anew. its not a simple remembrance, the priesthood claims it has the authority to sacrifice the flesh and blood of Jesus anew.1413 By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651).1414 As sacrifice, the Eucharist is also offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead and to obtain spiritual or temporal benefits from God.you dont even know the beliefs that your cult proclaims. the priest has the authority to bring Jesus from Heaven into the presence of the Host to sacrifice him anew.and you participate in this pagan barbery.
>>538176010Based, a true preacher. The only church I like is that new one in spain, Human ingenuity showcasing nature in its finest. Thats a true work to god.Recognizing your own capabilities and honouring the natural world around you.Creation in its finest.
>>538176010>NicolaitansThey were condemned for eating food offered to demon idols and fornication with some seductress. You’re making an extrapolation about the etymology of the word and trying to apply it to the church. You very clearly just have a blind hostility towards catholicism and are fishing for ammo without being objective and thinking about it honestly. >>538176445The eucharist is a presentation of the sacrifice at calvary, not an additional one. None of that catecism section implies that it is.
>>538176023Grace and peace from the Lord. As you desire to know whether my painted seal, which you sent to me, has hit the mark, I shall answer most amiably and tell you my original thoughts and reason about why my seal is a symbol of my theology. The first should be a black cross in a heart, which retains its natural color, so that I myself would be reminded that faith in the Crucified saves us. "For one who believes from the heart will be justified" (Romans 10:10). Although it is indeed a black cross, which mortifies and which should also cause pain, it leaves the heart in its natural colour. It does not corrupt nature, that is, it does not kill but keeps alive. "The just shall live by faith" (Romans 1:17) but by faith in the crucified. Such a heart should stand in the middle of a white rose, to show that faith gives joy, comfort, and peace. In other words, it places the believer into a white, joyous rose, for this faith does not give peace and joy like the world gives (John 14:27). That is why the rose should be white and not red, for white is the color of the spirits and the angels (cf. Matthew 28:3; John 20:12). Such a rose should stand in a sky-blue field, symbolising that such joy in spirit and faith is a beginning of the heavenly future joy, which begins already, but is grasped in hope, not yet revealed. And around this field is a golden ring, symbolising that such blessedness in Heaven lasts forever and has no end. Such blessedness is exquisite, beyond all joy and goods, just as gold is the most valuable, most precious and best metal. This is my compendium theologiae [summary of theology]. I have wanted to show it to you in good friendship, hoping for your appreciation. May Christ, our beloved Lord, be with your spirit until the life hereafter. Amen.[1][2]
>>538176425This happens in other books too. The quotes from scripture are Samartian not what was inserted as the old testament
>>538176663>You’re making an extrapolation about the etymology of the word and trying to apply it to the church.the Letters in Revelation 2 and 3 were written TO Churches, not demonic cults.the cults already entered the churches and corrupted them.>even in the days of AntipasAntiPapaagainst the headship over other believers.>You very clearly just have a blind hostility towards catholicismthe bible is full of anti roman catholic teachings. nobody who truly is born again and reads the bible can be a roman catholic because its anti biblical to the core.>is a presentation of the sacrifice at calvary, not an additional oneWRONG, thats not what the catechism or romanism teaches.>Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity>Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity>Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity
>>538176857Hebrews 1:6 This says the hebrews are actually the samartians since that qoute doesn't exist in Jewish Deutromomy
>>538168478never heard of these guys
>>538176934This is exhausting, like arguing with blacks about history. You guys just make shit up as you go. In what way do you think the quote you posted implies there are additional sacrifices? It doesn’t. His body and blood are substantially present in the sacrament as our Lord affirmed repeatedly in John 6. He’s God. He turned water into wine. You don’t think he can make himself present under the form of bread and wine? He said “this is my body. This is my blood.” You’re also implying the church was wrong about transubstantiation until a few hundred years ago when people forgot this practice. It’s in the church from the very beginning, in the writings of St. Ignatius, and even Martin Luther affirmed it. To deny it is to imply the church was wrong for its first 1600 years.
>>538169736>elitist (n) - one who thinks they are better than othersThat's not the definition of an elitist.An elitist is someone who supports a system in which the elite is dominant and commands society: Elitists are aristocrats, in the sense that they favour a naturally aristocratic system. Like it was everywhere sort of before Liberalism and jewish supremacism.
But the new Catholic Church is so chill they let me lower the standards and they emphasis not having to exert myself, the new modern Catholic Church is so chill bro. Don't have to do anything difficult. Those pesky SSPX keep trying makes use worship the same way we have for the last 2000yrs with all the hard stuff like strict rules for fasting and impossibly high standards, definitely not chill bro.
>>538168554There are only 3 Protestant flavors. Catholics continue to hide their shortcomings by claiming non-denominationals are Protestants.
>>538169577Judah were not jews either. They were merely judeians. Jews as we know them are Talmudic jews and they are radically different from the Hebrew derived sects that preceeded them. So nobody before 500 AD or so is "jewish"."jews" are the synagogue of satan.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2023%3A4&version=NIVhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%207%3A38&version=NIVIn Numbers 23:4, the Samaritan Pentateuch uniquely reads "The Angel of God found Balaam," whereas the traditional Jewish Masoretic Text (and most standard translations) reads "And God met Balaam."
>>538177984This could mean that the old testament in most bible's isn't actually inspired at least for some books. I mean we can't really argue with what the Holy Spirit said is the correct text
>>538168554>Heathen cares about Christianity.
>>538177679let me simply ask you this, do you actually taste blood and flesh when you consume the Eucharist?if your answer is no, it tastes like wine and whatever then transubstantiation simply is make belief.this directly invalidates it since God did not turn it into blood and flesh. its an empty ritual.just be true with yourself, you dont need to answer me.
>>538178256That would be transforming, not transubstantiated. It does not change in form, it does change in substance. Read john 6
>>538177945>There are only 3 Protestant flavorsWhat?Are you feeling okay?
>>538178347you would do well>Jesus feeds 5000>next day they come back to be fed again>Jesus tells them he is the bread of life>eat my flesh and drink my blood>those who do not receive his teachings bugger off>only disciples remain>actually its the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is no help at allJesus filtered out the people that only come to him to have their bodily needs fulfilled instead of his spiritual teachings he came for.but somehow this got transformed into an obscure blood ritual pagan feast where you literally consume the flesh of God but it somehow still remains bread and wine.this is next level of demonic deception.
>>538178388Are you? Do you know the definition of Protestant and for what reason they have that namesake? I'll give you a hint, it's not about protesting the Catholic church.
>>538178629>everyone leaves>”actually it’s all spiritual, man”>”I was just lying to make them leave”That didn’t happen, you just made that up. He actually turns to his disciples and asks them if they want to leave too. The acceptance of this teaching is hard for most people but essential. You are joined to the mystical body of Christ by eating his body. You consume the victim of the sacrifice. This is why they ate the passover lamb in exodus. Jesus is the ultimate passover lamb prefigured all the way back then. We consume God to become more like God to be in communion with him. People don’t like the way it sounds, but our Lord made this very clear and doubled down repeatedly that this is literal, not a symbol.
>>538179131he was not lying.“Truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves. 27 Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.” 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” 30 So they said to him, “Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’” 32 Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” 34 They said to him, “Sir, give us this bread always.”>>”actually it’s all spiritual, man”according to Jesus own words, the work is that you believe in him that he sent.its spiritual, not a ritual you perform at mass in your "church".the work of mass will do nothing but condemn you, the work of the Spirit is that you have faith in the once offered sacrifice on the cross where Jesus gave his actual flesh and blood for you so your sin are forgiven if you believe in him.>We consume God to become more like God to be in communion with him.bro, this is satanic to the core, get the fuck out of these heretical teachings. you do not become more like God by eating some wine and cracker. you need the Spirit that gives you life continually just like Jesus said.>63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. >very clear and doubled down repeatedly that this is literal, not a symbolso when did the disciples consume his actual flesh and blood ever?
>>538179601>when did the disciples consume his actual fleshAt the last supper when he holds up the bread and said “take this all of you and eat, for this is my body which will be given up for you.” That’s what we’re doing at mass. The same words are said. When he says the flesh counts for nothing, he’s talking about the carnal, dust to dust, sons of Adam with the curse of Adam. He is the new Adam and he obviously doesn’t mean nothing physical matters, or else his real sacrifice on the cross would mean nothing. He himself is the bread of life that never dies and indeed ascended into heaven with his real physical glorified body. Yes, belief is essential, and the Holy Spirit is essential. But his body matters too because it was his corpse that rose by the Spirit, something that will happen for everyone at the end when heaven and earth are joined into one. How do think Paul talks about people “falling asleep” for taking communion unworthily? They wouldn’t keel over from a symbol. Jesus is substantially present in the eucharist, not symbolically. All Christians believed this for almost the whole history of Christendom.
>>538180849>At the last supper when he holds up the bread and said “take this all of you and eat, for this is my body which will be given up for you.”If you think the disciples consumed actual flesh and blood and not symbolically that would make Jesus Christ a sinner since the law of God forbids the consuming of blood.Jesus did not disobey God and thus its a symbol of his sacrifice, not a transubstantiation ritual.>and indeed ascended into heaven with his real physical glorified bodyyes, and the eucharist claims it can pull him back from heaven to have a little extra sacrifice.you literally said yourself you consume God to become more like God (if that were true roman catholics would actually have the fruit to show for it but there is none).>something that will happen for everyone at the end when heaven and earth are joined into one.you are to receive the Holy Spirit yourself in THIS life, otherwise you will perish in the judgement. it requires actual repentance, turning back to God.>How do think Paul talks about people “falling asleep” for taking communion unworthily?he stated it just before, people were having feasts of their own, the rich ate rich and the poor ate poor being humiliated. this means they had actual real meals, not a little sip and a bite.but they treated it more in a pagan manner and thats what Paul condemns here. they equated the last supper to pagan feasts, eating and drinking unworthily, without humility, without thanksgiving and without charity.do you think they keeled over because they werent in some state of grace the church decided upon and then when the sip and wafer were passed to them they fucking died on the spot?No! thats just superstition. they treated the "do this in remembrance of me" unworthily. they ate and drank like gluttons, not treating the occasion serious.
