we're not "anti-white" or at all opposed to white people, as communists. i just want to publicly announce that to the world, for the 100,000,000th time, because much of right-wing propaganda revolves around randomly trying to paint us in this fashion. we're believers in class war, on the far left. we reject identity politics as tools of division, which the wealthy use to end these class wars. and therefore we view any racism against white people with equal disdain that we do when we view it against blacks, or any others.i just want to be crystal clear about this, because the propagandists in western media are always going to push this idea that we're "anti-white" in order to control poor and working white people into voting for ideas which do not benefit them.
>>538173357Nazis base their ideology off aesthetics. You can't argue with them.
Well of course you're not "anti-White," cupcake. I mean... Who's going to create anything of value for (You) to steal?
>>538173357go kys you lieing sack of shit kek
>>538173357These are the communists. These are the fascists. Both wings of the eagle that was Rome, corrupted by Jews.
>>538173357WHITES ARE BAD THEY DID A CAPITALISM ON THE THIRD WORLDGOMMUNIST MAOIST THIRD WORLDISM IS ABOUT REVENGE ON WHITEY FOR BRINGING MODERNITY TO THE BACKWARD SAVAGES
>>538173357Go tell that to your Reddit brethren. They'll probably ban you.
>>538173357>judge us by our verbose gobbledygook >not our actions or resultsNah
>>538176517I don't know if he's an outlier or not but I'm pretty sure Vaush has voiced the OP sentiment before
>>538173357Communism is cringe.
>>538173357If you advocate for more browns in White countries, you're anti-White. It's very simple.
It's actually easy: read Gulag Archipelago, and then decide if you want to support communism.>but...No, just do it./thread
>>538177001this would be fair if you didn't reject every single historical book painstakingly accounting how evil the Nazi regime was too
>>538173357
>>538177257>you're a nazi!Buddy, this is 4chan.
>>538177257Did that anon make an OP about how Nazis didn’t target those groups, retarded nigger?
>>538177325I'm not your buddy, friendo.
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>>538176900Tell your government to quit fucking shit up in brown countries so white countries won't have to deal with anywhere near as many refugees coming in.
>>538173357Marx's class conflict is derived from the debunked labor theory of value. I don't care what your views on race are, I care that you want to abolish private property because you've blamed capital owners for all your problems.
>>538173357>ally yourself with sandniggers >follow kike ideology >openly call for the global genocide of the White race why is it you can only lie?
>>538178545>America goes to war with iraq and afghanistan >shitskins use this as excuse for invasion under the guise of asylumretarded
>>538177001>go read boomer fairy tales No thanks Moshe
you guys also should understand that communist countries do not have immigration. this is not due to racism, but due to the economic policies of communist nations not requiring them.
>>538173357fuck you kike
>>538176517im not allowed on reddit. reddit bans communists. reddit is a website which exists in order to push your far right misrepresentations of leftists such as myself. therefore, they do not allow posters like me on their website. i'm administratively banned from the entire website, in fact. for doing nothing other than advocating class war and the rejection of idpol.
>>538179565Communist countries don't have immigration because no one wants to go, they literally have to build walls to stop people from escaping.
>>538173357Communism protects the interests of the working class therefore mass immigration would stop. The West would be Whiter today had it been Communist for the last 50 years
>>538173357You. I like you. You’re one of the good ones. Though not perfect. But sadly 99% of leftists are brainwashed by liberalism.
>>538179750This happen only in cuckwest and fascist are brainwashed by kikes.
Why Capitalists love higher immigration https://www.cpbml.org.uk/news/why-capitalists-love-higher-immigration
>>538179713this is a direct falsehood you're trying to spread in order to gaslight the public over your own open borders capitalist politics, which you try to desperately mask with fake racism on /pol/.
>>538174201Browns as always? Jews are thieves and whites are their foot soldiers/goylems. Always have been
>>538179750this is your misrepresentation.
>>538180059>>538179750>this is your misrepresentation.PS pic related, which i have posted frequently on this board. all of these misrepresentations of us come from you people, on the right. you have funded every woke cause, in order to use them as lightening rods which will distract the public from the class wars we're promoting, and economic inequalities you're putting them through, for billionaire profits.
>>538178545>Our governmentlol
>>538179750>posts photo of an obscure russian nazbolwhat are you doing in Greece, pidrila? Shouldn't you be putting out fires back in russia?
>>538179945i didn't click the link, but a few reasons why capitalism inherently requires endless mass immigration (abridged):>Speculation>GDP / Stock Market>Age Demographics>Global talent to attract capital to America>Stimulation of demandwho is responsible for western open borders? it is the people on /pol/ ....who are pretending to be racist in order to mask their own crime.
>>538179565>gay progressive culture That’s all marxism
>>538180313Nobody will take a single thing you say seriously, no matter how logical or well thought out you think they sound, as as long leftists like you call anyone that is against woke policies a Nazi.
>>538179975I like immigration so long as the immigrants are actually productive. But you can't have loose borders and welfare or they'll bleed us dry. >which you try to desperately mask with fake racism on /pol/ Where have I said anything racist? I'm not lying about communism, but you're lying about me.
>>538180344no, that's you and your identity politics on the right.your politics, as fascists, involve the promotion of identity politics in order to divide the public and keep them voting for policies which are not in their own class interest.
Somehow it's hilarious that now there's political advertisement for literal fucking communism, lol...
then oppose mass immigration and denounce anti-white rhetoric, or go fuck yourself
>>538180434what you just did here is very typical of /pol/: you put words in my mouth and in the mouths of millions of other people. you do this deliberately, to misrepresent your political opposition. furthermore, i have illustrated perfectly, in previous posts, how all of the wokeness in the western world is coming from you people on the right >>538180215. wokeness, which you fund in order to keep poor and working people voting for the financial interests of billionaires, instead of themselves.
>>538180442So you oppose gay rights then?Deporting foreigners is an acceptable position for you?
>>538177001
>>538180546mass immigration in the west entirely comes from you people on the right. which we've already discussed above, in multiple instances >>538180313 >>538179565, and here in the discussion of how you people funded the wokeness, which you pretend to oppose, in order to keep poor and working people voting for you >>538180215. just because i presume this will be the next tactic you try.
>>538180556That's a whole lot of words to avoid acknowledging the fact that you will call anyone who calls for deporting foreign workers a Nazi.
>>538180313Capitalism is just private property and the voluntary exchange of goods and labor. It is a means of allocating resources. It doesn't require immigration anymore than any other economic system. If you look at a country like North Korea the lack of immigration has nothing to do with whether or not they "need" it. Their economy is trash.
>>538180566i never wrote anything about opposing gay rights. the united states depends on immigrants due to your capitalist economic policies, and this is why you never deport anyone, or fix the border, no matter which party is in power.
>>538180669>mass immigration in the west entirely comes from you people on the right. So you oppose mass immigration and support mass deportations then?
Karlyn Borysenko said communists consider anyone that supports private property White and hate them.
>>538173357>on the far left. we reject identity politics
>>538179894>Hides flag to talk shitBe quiet bitch.>>538173357I looked into "The Principles of Communism" literally just yesterday. If there's anything I've taken away from Trump, the American political class, the agitation in media, and especially the LARPers here, it's that they are all talk and no action. Shit has got to change, fast, and so far the only people I've seen willing to take any true action have been leftists. Inb4>SHILL>JEW>YOU WON'T DO SHIT>YOU WERE ALREADY A COMMIE WHEN YOU POSTED THIS That's all these fags do, it's nigger-tier crab mentality. They have zero intentions of doing anything about their predicaments besides bitching on /pol/ and responding to endless 1pbtid bait threads. They can't and won't organize. They're a lost cause. I want this bitch to burn to the ground so we can make something better, and if that means communism, idgaf anymore. It's obvious we're being played by billionaire kikes against each other. It's time to kill and eat them.
>>538180746"the united states depends on immigrants due to your capitalist economic policies, and this is why you never deport anyone, or fix the border, no matter which party is in power."you can have a discussion in US politics over deportations, if you'd like, but if communists were in power the US border would be closed. and this is a matter of communist economic policies not requiring mass immigration.
>>538180056Whites create societies people want to move to.Browns create societies people want to flee from.
>>538180684"capitalism" means "the private ownership of the means of production". that's what we're discussing. you can try to misdefine, or redefine, words all you want. but "capitalism" is always going to mean "the private ownership of the means of production", whenever anyone is discussing it.
>>538180278What makes you believe there are no other ideologies in Greece except opa-tzatziki-syrtaki pseudopatriotism and globohomo anarcho-liberalism? Keep in mind Greeks were the OG antiwesternists since 1054 AD, probably earlier as well.
>>538180743>i never wrote anything about opposing gay rightsYou said the right pushes identity politics to divide the workers.The gay rights movement is a highly divisive example of identity politics. Logically then, is it not reasonable to conclude you should then also oppose the gay rights movement? It's literally a right-wing plot according to you.
>>538173357Class war is gay. Racial solidarity and class cooperation is the key. If we were high trust racially homogeneous society with natsoc economic system we would be golden. The idea that jamal, mohamed and I are all in the same boat and need to team up to fuck over others because we are “global labourers” or whatever is fucking stupid.
>>538173357Another race communist nazbol. Blacked Lives Matter!!
>>538180816>>538180746>"the united states depends on immigrants due to your capitalist economic policies, and this is why you never deport anyone, or fix the border, no matter which party is in power.">you can have a discussion in US politics over deportations, if you'd like, but if communists were in power the US border would be closed. and this is a matter of communist economic policies not requiring mass immigration.PS, this is not based in racism. only economics.
>>538180916i'm an entirely ordinary communist. my views are entirely typical of people who promote communism, broadly. you can't paint me as "an outlier" or "not real communism". communism is about class war. the rejection of identity politics is 1 of our central points.
>>538180816Notice how you refused to answer my question .Do you oppose mass immigration and support deportations?If you cannot come out and say that you do now, why would anyone believe you're magically going to turn around and adopt that position when you're in power?
>>538181021You're a cuck
>>538180900i never wrote anything about opposing gay rights. there's no way for you to pretend i did. no matter hard you mental gymnastic my postings.communism is about class war. we're not about your identity politics culture wars, no matter how much you try to drag us into them.
>>538173357Making me feel a bit like a communist here.But ultimately I just want an end to shareholder primacy as I view it as the current evil in capitalism that needs scrubbed out for a more equitable and fair system that can finally get back to rewarding a person's work rather than their ability to grift.
>>538173357who cares what you have to say, pleebiter commie tard.Marxists are retard, Marx himself try to fight his own ideology but your commie professors don't teach you that.You see, marx understood fuck all about social structure or economics.Not only that but now his ideology is basically christcuckery 2.0. with hundreds of small variations base on oppressor and oppress garbage.There's no group of people more oppress than white people on their own countries. Do we used his ideology? No, it's garbage after all. Serves nothing.Another point is that the only human construct that exist is his notion and a few religions that we are all equal, we are not.
>>538181027i've been perfectly clear with you.furthermore, you are an open borders capitalist who is pretending to be anti-immigration in order to mask your own crimes, which you've committed against the embattled white proletariat you pretend you represent.
>>538180916race doesn't exist, nigger/tard. Kys. Niggers lives are worthless, go ask around africa.
>>538180942>you'd like, but if communists were in power the US border would be closedThe Soviet Union routinely transplanted ethnic groups between nations to fill labor shortages.You're full of shit.
>>538173357So you guys are alright with trannies and other degenerates as long as they serve you as useful idiots to be discarded after they outlive their usefulness to (you).
>>538180887The means of production are property and labor. Privately owning them means being able to voluntarily exchange them. You cannot divorce private ownership with free markets because constricting the market is an expression of ownership.
>>538181189bold of you to assume he can speak in clicks
>>538180760your comment is all fine, until we come to the end, when the jewish scapegoating shows up. why don't you want people to blame the billionaires who aren't jewish, which is most of them?
>>538181087> Communism le goodWhy? There's all these reasons it's bad.>Nope. I'm writing the narrative to be working class vs the rich because... Because I said so!Did you become politically active yesterday? You keep pointing to classwar while sucking Islamic cock, BBC, and every immigrant that pops out a non white baby.
>>538181162The only thing you've been perfectly clear about is your total refusal to commit to saying you oppose mass immigration and support mass deportations.Come on.Say it.Say that the embattled White proletariat of Europe, Australia, and North American have a not only a right but a duty to expell foreign immigrant scab labor, the modern manifestation of settler colonialism.Fucking say it or shut the fuck up about how communists don't support replacement immigration.
>>538181021I'd be ecstatic to kill you with my bare hands, you stupid and evil commie rat.
>>538181295"the means of production" (which basically means the large businesses for anyone who is confused), in the west are privately owned, even children understand that and there's no way for you to pretend otherwise. everyone understands corporations in the west, for example, are owned privately.
>>538180669>mass immigration in the west entirely comes from you people on the rightsure thing commie LMFAO what a ridiculous statement -- https://platform.dsausa.org/go ahead and read their borderless policies. Unlimited migration and full social service something that can only work in a fucking fantasyland
>>538181189>Race doesn't exieeeest!!!!You are brown, suck my black cock
>>538181442"i've been perfectly clear with you.""furthermore, you are an open borders capitalist who is pretending to be anti-immigration in order to mask your own crimes, which you've committed against the embattled white proletariat you pretend you represent."
>>538181496>everyone understands corporations in the west, for example, are owned privately.Why can I buy stock in them then?
>>538181538I think I've made my point to anyone that isn't a commie schizo.
>>538181531there's literally nothing on the other end of the link which you just posted, which references immigration. nevertheless, the group that you're discussing has nothing to do with us, as communists. nor does "the communist party USA"
>>538181614you've made your point that you are an open borders capitalist, who pretends to be racist on the internet in order to brainwash white people into believing that other people are responsible for the open borders crimes, which you have committed against them for your own personal profit either as billionaires, or their unwilling thralls.
>>538181345>why don't you want people to blame the billionaires who aren't jewish, which is most of them?Yet you won't name any of them. Odd, especially when the "open border capitalist" are exclusively jewish.
>>538181496Did you have a stroke? What argument do you think you're responding to? >which basically means the large businesses for anyone who is confused The means of production are land, labor, and capital(the tools and machines used to make things). In the West, the ownership of the means of production is mixed. Land is publicly owned, capital is privately owned, and labor is mixed. But my argument isn't that we're not capitalist, my argument is that capitalism is good.
>>538181724why do you want people to believe the billionaires are jewish, when this is a direct falsehood?why don't you want people blaming the wealthy? why don't you want people blaming capitalism for the problem it's caused? the reason is because you are an open borders capitalist.
>>538181570You are a private individual. You owning stock is private ownership. "Public" just means the state.
>>538181538Deflect and gaslighting is not being clear. You won't say immigration should be halted and reversed. Your response is baseless accusations.
>>538181632>there's literally nothing on the other end of the link which you just posted, which references immigration.A lying communist, how shocking. Sorry you have to click one more link which apparently is far too much effort for youhttps://platform.dsausa.org/foreign-policy/
This is not a communist thread anymore. It's a Christian thread!
>>538181750"means of production" means the large businesses.in the west, land is privately owned, why would you try to convince anyone otherwise? why are you even working to bullshit people this badly? as if they're ever going to believe "the means of production are not privately owned in the west"? you're wasting your time, man. just quit it.
>>538181632>there's literally nothing on the other end of the link which you just posted, which references immigrationLike all communists, you lie like fish swim.https://platform.dsausa.org/foreign-policy/>FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT>Allow workers to freely migrate between countries to seek employment without restrictive immigration controls. Demilitarize the border, end all immigrant detention and deportations, immediate amnesty for all immigrants regardless of current immigration status, and provide access to jobs, labor rights, and social services to all immigrants.
>>538181723>No, you are open borders.You still have not denounced mass immigration, still just baseless accusations. You lost loony troon.
>>538181891"means of production" is le white woman's womb, because mixed babies produce cheaper labour
>>538181817that's an entirely different link you posted. anyway, i don't know why this website is supposed to matter to me. they don't have anything to do with me or communism. and you dont have any meaningfully left wing politics, in the west.
>>538181971>that's an entirely different link you posted.Oh the nerve of this kike!
>>538181919i've spoken to you in threads before, and in each instance no matter what anyone writes, in response you just repeat yourself and pretend you didn't get answers you were asking, for literally 100s of comments. therefore, i will just repeat myself:"i've been perfectly clear with you.""furthermore, you are an open borders capitalist who is pretending to be anti-immigration in order to mask your own crimes, which you've committed against the embattled white proletariat you pretend you represent."
>>538181162>responding as though anon is a billionaireShut the fuck up, retard. Google how communism deals with borders, retard.
>>538181795>why do you want people to believe the billionaires are jewish, when this is a direct falsehood?That is not an argument, it's coping.Why can't you name the ones responsible,it's always some vague classification of anonymous "billionaires"?You are 24 pbtid and you have yet to make any arguments, just gaslighting and projection.You lost loony troon.
>>538181971Don't fall for this trannies red herrings. It's bait from a lying communist.
>>538182047its a different link you posted, and its to a group which has nothing to do with me, or my politics as a communist. immigration is the result of capitalism. and you will always have it until you abolish capitalism. abolishing capitalism requires class unity. class unity requires the rejection of identity politics.
>>538181971>and you dont have any meaningfully left wing politics, in the west.Can you give an example of a place that does?
>>538182056many wealthy people, and their nepotistic lazy wealthlarvae, on this website.
>>538182057why don't you want anyone blaming "the billionaires"? why are you always trying to divert the blame away from them and on to someone different?
>>538181891>"means of production" means the large businesses.No it doesn't. It means land, labor, and capital. If I own a snowplow and I pay someone to drive it then I am a capital owner no matter how small my business is. >land is privately owned, why would you try to convince anyone otherwise? why are you even working to bullshit people this badly? Land is almost exclusively owned by the state. A private "owner" has to pay rent in the form of property or land value tax, can be forcibly evicted by the state, requires permits from the state to make changes to the land, etc. In any meaningful sense the relationship between a "landowner" and the state is one of a tenant to a landlord.
>>538181971>entirely different linkit's a sub URL perhaps you should learn how basic tech like the WWW works before trying to run society.>their red dripped site and white rose have nothing to do with communismkek, nice try>you dont have any meaningfully left wing politics, in the west.shouldn't that be we my good vpn posting commie agitator? DSA can count the mayor of NYC, our biggest city, and multiple federal representatives as members, along with many other state and local positions. You don't have any FUCKING idea what you are talking about except some college kid level Marxist bullshit STFU
>>538182163If you don't suck my black cock, you're racist
>>538180887>"capitalism" means "the private ownership of the means of production>>538181496>"the means of production" (which basically means the large businesses for anyone who is confused>>538181891>means of production" means the large businessesSo is the "means of production" the ownership of production or is large businesses?You still fail to define what exactly "means of production" means, it changes every time you are questioned It's also obvious it has fuck all to do with who owns what, it's entirely a power grab from people you are mad at.You lost loony troon, now do the world a favor and KYS
>>538173357The problem is that all of the people who own the wealth you want to redistribute are white and those who will be receiving it because they have very little are blacks and immigrants. No matter how you cut the cake, what you'll bring about is a massive wealth transfer from white people to brown people. At least most Marxists understand that and make up some bullshit to make white people feel guilty.
>>538182115i'm a communist. you can post things from Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Xi or even Vladimir Putin and i will face responsibility for them. but digging up a bullshit website from the western internet and pretending "this means ur for these policies, and the rest of the communists are, too!" is a completely fictional tactic for you.
>>538181836That's what you think. I'm gonna teach philosophy while working in my community garden
Your post has zero value to me even if you were 100% genuine about your own views because you don't represent "we" of any kind. Any mainstream media where they mention race in a way where they want whitey to hate other races, or say that you should hate lefties because they are anti-white, simply doesn't exist.Of course there's this thing where russians or muslims bad but only the ones living in their own countries.
>>538182105This is false. You can simultaneously have private property and strict border control.
>>538173357Communists are rabidly anti-White I. The extreme. When they deny this, they are lying. Communists are mentally degenerated lying shitweasels.
>>538173357your side whether you like it or not gets associated with the idpol radlibs and kvetching non whites blaming whitey for everything, and you guys havent done sufficient work to purge this crap
>>538173357>we're not "anti-white" or at all opposed to white people, as communists.Communists are jews.Jews are opposed to Whites.
>>538182281why are you pretending there's confusion when there isn't? why are you people always trying to pretend you're not getting straight answers, when you are? you know entirely well what "the means of production" means, and it's not a question, or complicated topic. when we discuss "the means of production" in the west, we are discussing the large businesses which are owned by ultra wealthy people, and require seizure by the proletarian public of this nation.
>>538182054The question was do you support mass immigration.You "answer" is >You ebil capital open border bad manThat is not an answer, and your refusal to denounce it in anyways is a definitive admission you are for unlimited immigration legally or illegally.You lost loony troon. Now be a good useful idiot and KYS
>>538182296>One of the few communist countries that exists>Ethno nationalism for me but not for thee>No! Wait! I didn't mean it like that!
>>538182431We are not antisemite.We are antiEDOMite.>WHO is Israel?Those who strive to steal our present and our future have already stolen our past. WE are who they claim to be. They have stolen our history, our lands, even our ancestors. On top of that, they have the audacity to label us Amalek. They trade their own position for ours. They seek revenge for what Jacob did to Esau. They think if they wear the skin of dead Israelites that God will recognize them as His true people. They act out their hatred of God for which God hates them. Then, they blame you and tell you it's God's fault. Our kin have set their seal to testify that WE are of Israelite descent in the Declaration of Arbroath.Who am I to believe, my family though long dead, or those who seek to erase my family? Am I to swear allegiance to a false race and a false god just because others refuse to hear the truth of who they are? Our people were the Scythians. Those same Scythians were renamed by the Romans as Germans, the “true” people. We will not find the roots of our race in 20th century politics. We must go back far further. We must be willing to confront lies that are over 2700 years old. The choice between religion and race is a false one, unless you choose a false history and a false god, as your (((enemies))) would prefer. True history and the true God need not be separated. Many hate the Bible, but it is the story of OUR family. It is you who prevent your people from being whole. You have to let go of the lies you love. It's time for the family reunion.Some YouTube resources:@truthinhistory@IsraelFound@TruthVids@americaspromiseministries2@YairDavidiy@ShepherdChapelStudent/playlist?list=PLiA6kuKpn0D02ZxrOPIOQB0-Gs5VnYlMj@richtidwellkinsmanredeemer (.) com/britishisrael (.) co (.) uk/overcomebabylon (.) com/statement-of-faith
>>538182405We have seen over a decade of communist terrorism against White people maintaining their countries. Communist are virulently anti-White.
>>538173357Woke communism is unacceptable, so you better make conservative communism a thing if you want any chance
>>538182405no. this is just your propaganda, which you've created in your western media and big tech billionaire-funded internet-feeds >>538180215 we've discussed this so many times, on /pol/, and you people always just pretend to ignore it, or not to understand.
>>538182532>your western mediasimple question: where are you? Direct answer please
>>538182205>No it's not jewish billionaires >What now you don't think it's billionaires.Lol, LMAO even. You can't find a single billionaire that is not a kike. You lost loony troon.
>>538182532>This whole site is just billionaire funded propoganda
>>538182461why are you just pretending we haven't had this discussion 1,000 times in the past, and that it hasn't always gone the same way, and that i didn't discuss the immigration policies of communists above? in multiple instances? and explicitly detailing how its your capitalist economic policies which cause immigration issues? and how we're entirely opposed to those policies?
>>538182296>i'm a communist. you can post things from Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Xi or even Vladimir Putin and i will face responsibility for them. Oh that's fantastic! Now we're getting somewhere You claimed immigration is immigration is the result of capitalism.Yet people routinely immigrated within the various nations that make up the Soviet Union, and the dominant Han ethnic routinely immigrates within the various regions of China displacing local minority ethnic groups.Can you explain this discrepancy between your claims about communism's relationship with immigration, and the actual reality of behavior found among the people like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Xi or even Vladimir Putin, who just said you are willing to take responsibility for, as a communist ?
>>538182501>>wall of christcuck text pic>>wall of textNigger, noone is reading your TED talk. Fucking neck yourself low iq idiot.
>>538182618there has been zero times where you wish mass immigration or tranny stuff didn't exist. you just say capitalism caused them but you still support them but you hope people don't notice that you still like it.
>>538182640China and the USSR had closed borders, any other falsehoods you make up are just that: falsehoods. write a wall of text full of pseudohistory, if you want. won't matter. these are well-known facts. no immigration in communist nations. none. they require none.
>>538182712what's happening is that you people are completely confounded when you run up against an actual leftist and find out we're nothing like your msm misrepresentations of us, and then you find yourselves tonguetied. entirely crestfallen. then, the only thing you can do is just doubledown, pretend you didn't hear what we had to say, or pretend you're too dumb to understand it, in order to avoid having to respond to it, then just listlessly repeat yourselves.
>>538182438Again, why is it only "means of production" for a nebulous type of business. is it the 20,000 acre ranch? Is it the trinket cart that does millions in profit in tourist traps, or is it just corporations like Amazon."Means of production" has to have a definitive definition. Not just "large businesses" otherwise you are just a gaslighting troon.
> opens box> It's a communist anchor baby
>>538182798you say capitalism bad because capitalism caused multiculturalism and trannies but you don't think multiculturalism and trannies bad and you don't think people notice this. you can't even type that you don't like those things because it's that hard for you. the best i can give you is that i have no need to worship capitalism as some god either.
>>538182878>We're not anti-white>We just want to take things from white people and give them to our people
>>538182798>when you run up against an actual leftistNo two leftists are alike.In India and Bangladesh, the OG communist parties splintered into 20+ different communist parties each.Western MSM portrays communists more fairly than reality.Reality is, there isn't even a consensus among communists or even tankies worldwide on being anti white or anti anti white.You represent only yourself.
>>538182721>The fact that there was immigration between Soviet Republics is pseudohistory.>The fact that there are Han Chinese in Tibet is pseudohistory.So much for taking responsibility.
>>538182618>why are you just pretending we haven't had this discussion 1,000 times in the past, Again, the question has been asked, do you support mass immigration.And you fail to answer with any coherent arguments just baseless accusations.>i didn't discuss the immigration policies of communists above? No, baselessly accusating anyone that questions you of being an "open border capitalist" is not an answer, it is an admission of defeat.>explicitly detailing how its your capitalist economic policies which cause immigration issues?Again, the question was will you oppose mass immigration. Reeing about baseless accusations is not an argument it's and admission defeat>and how we're entirely opposed to those policies?You have yet to say anything about opposing immigration in any form, and no baseless accusing me of being "open border capitalist" is not you opposing immigration it is you deflecting from answering Now run and go KYS
>>538182721Most of /pol/ straight up likes china at this point.Including me, OG china shill
>>538173357>we reject identity politicsmostly yes if it gets put forth as the primary social lens of history and economics.it still makes sense to say that bigotry/caste's purpose to make a different ethnicity a lower economic class, and the function of misogyny/homophobia is to put women and non hetero people in a lower economic class. class consciousness is already baked in to understanding real intersectionalityon the other hand, dipshit liberals want to make everything only about idpol, and feminists at every turn will deny how capitalism harms men, instead they will do circular reasoning bullshit about "the patriarchy harms men too" which is a blatant contradiction in terms>>538175012cope>>538175189>pic for ants
>>538176517that's correct. liberals are not leftists.
>>538183205Tibet has always been Chinese.There are more Muslims in Tibet than han or dalai lama cultists lol
>>538183189>No two leftists are alikeNo, they are exactly the same. No arguments just dogmatic catch phrase.The only difference is what "cause" they claim to champion.
>>538183280>and the function of misogyny/homophobia is to put women and non hetero people in a lower economic classPseudoscientific dogshit.How does anyone, let alone the bourgeoisie or the billionaires, benefit from women or worse, filthy homo degenerates, from being at a lower economic class?
>>538183065It's like that but Bernie got elected for the opposite, too white. It's about racial credit, where dems can't run anyone white-adjacent and when they run a conga line of brown and black politicians they're surprised there's racial issues. It's because they just close their eyes and scream like children like it doesn't exist because gran planter looks like a cuck. This wave of commy middlemen can't acknowledge race issues and won't.
>>538183311Literally all liberals: *disagree*
>>538183311They are in the west.What you said is only true for nonwhite leftists. And even then it's not always true.Every white leftist is a liberal who is larpingl, zero exceptions
>>538173357mass replacement migration never happened in any communist country
>>538182618We have seen over a decade of communist terrorism in support of open borders. Demented communist freaks are so anti-White that they think any White person trying to maintain their homeland is a "fascist", as though there are actual fascists in existence. Lunacy. You are rabidly anti-White in the extreme, lying cunt.
>>538183378Yeah, fair enough.
>>538183474Modern white leftists say Stalin was a red fascist and china today is a reactionary right wing regime
>>538181535you're a nigger with only a small pp and the kike illusion that this is your identity, cope harder worthless nigger, go do some crime or whatever your kind do on the regular.I'm also white and my country mutts actually kill uppity niggers like you.the difference between us is in species you fucking 70% ghostly ape.you are only a useful idiot because kikes import you from the internal slave-trade in africa and whites actually free you later on and gave you rights, the biggest mistake ever.>>538181337he's a nigger, so maybe he's a natural.
>>538183418>it's slightly complicated and i'm not smart enough to understand>it must be wrong
>>538183472you're retarded
>>538173357Then please tell the SJWs running ops for you on every website, editorial column board, movie director's chair, game dev, comic writer, print media, news, media, TV, and radio to stop spitting anti-white rhetoric.
>>538183600You're the reason we need half a newspaper written in Spanish. If you're dreaming of an America that's not like your country then you should crack open a book.
>>538173357>muh right-wing propagandaTheres no need for words - especially yours. We see your deeds.
>>538183723they block us because they're liberals. liberals are not leftists. ive been blocked from countless fb groups and pages (that claim they're "leftist" but really controlled by liberal idpol admins) for literally 20 years>>538183311
>>538173357a true marxist hates jews and faggots
>>538173357Because class is inherently tied to race. You can try to argue this by dissecting civilization to the period and point that benefits you, but you cannot argue against the fact that class is a byproduct of institutions which have evolved over several thousand years. You wish we lived in a world where IQ and genetics don't determine anything but we already should live in that world. Everyone on earth should be an expert in quantum physics and 16th century obscure alchemic philosophy, and everyone should know 5 languages, and how to code, and paint, and we should have already solved P vs NP and the Riemann Hypothesis.Because we already live in a world where practically all information is available if you want to find it.Low IQ serfs belong in the fields because they lack the will to be anything more than serfs. The institutions we have rise up from this biological reality, the stratification of capacity and potential, the hierarchy of Being. Some men are born to rule, others are born to serve.That is a reality.And that is why class will always be downstream from biology and therefore downstream from race. Whether it is the economic class of the developed world, or the castes of violence in the congo. Whether it is who owns what, or who is willing to inflict the most psychopathic damage on another.Everything is rooted in the Will, and the Will is rooted in your biological potential. If you got your magical hippie utopia tomorrow, you would never achieve a stateless society, because without a perpetual state enforcing classlessness, classes would naturally form, and because communism requires an elite class to supervise the masses, and this class division must remain in place perpetually in order to prevent the human condition from stratifying the masses according to genetic potential, the system itself is defeated by it's own contradictions.You cannot argue against this without denying reality.
>>538173357>we aren't anti-white>we just help shitskins rape white girls en masse>but we totally aren't anti-white
>>538183884Then you need to take control of the spaces these liberal SJWs have, because I was a journalist for 20 years and I fought then since 2007 when they literally appeared out of thin air EVERYWHERE. I spent a decade clinging on to the hope that we'd win, and the truth is, we have not won and things are getting worse. They fired me. I ask you, as a leftist (I voted Trump, but I do have leftist ideals such as free healthcare and social security not 401k, both things he destroyed this year) to please for god sakes take those places over and insert your people, because these liberal SJW cockroaches are not dying.
RACE NAZBOL ALARM!!!ALERT!!!RACE NAZBOL ALARM!!!
>>538183884The difference between liberals and leftists is negligible. Both want to flood Europe with browns, but are discriminating White Americans as hard as they can.
>>538181345Lurk moar.They fucking hate us.Their White counterparts can get it, too.
>>538183789I don't speak spanish, retard. And spanish speakers are force to speak portuguese here, there's no spanish radio on my country.Got get folded by the mayan-spaniard mutts, nigger.
>>538173357The theory is against anti-White beliefs, but in practice its adherents are vehemently anti-White.
>>538183227>>538182816>>538182582you're just a lolcow, at this point, dude. acting like you don't understand even the most basic premises in politics, or didn't hear what your political opposition told you, in order to pretend you've "won". i'm more inclined just to watch you continue crashing out, at this point, honestly.
>>538182582why don't you want anyone blaming the billionaires? why do you want to work this hard to divert people's blame on to "the jews", as your scapegoat, instead?
>>538182518communism is about class war. it has nothing to do with any of the culture war strawman you've built on the right. this is western propaganda intended to mindcontrol the public into opposing class war >>538180215. this has nothing to do with me "making anything". it's just the fact of what we are, fundamentally.
>>538185926uhhhhhhhhhhgh. its so fucking boring whenever i post here with you people. all you can do is just ignore everything your political opposition tells you, you pretend you didn't understand, or pretend you didn't hear, then double down.
>>538184051>>538183205>>538182482now here i have to mass-reply to another one of /pol/'s pointless dumb fucking tricks. where you just make up completely fake quotes and put them in greentext. then reply to them as if they were real. i'm unimpressed. none of these are my words.none of them reflect words i wrote.how mendaciously do you people really want to present yourselves to the world?
>>538184612ugh, it's really all you can do is just plug your ears and write "nuh uh! ur anti-white!" becuz the moment you don't have that, then your entire grift falls apart. and your precious billionaires would face justice.
>>538184037what else does anyone need to read other than the 1st part of this post?....>Because class is inherently tied to race.there you have it. you've more or less illustrated what your whole agenda here will always be. to mix up class with race. and in doing so, make sure no one ever organizes by class, unites by class, or focuses on the politics of class. you do this to protect your precious wealthy.
>>538183723these are your people. once more >>538180215, these are your people, and you are doing this, and i refuse to believe you're all too dumb to understand. especially after i've been here, for years, pointing this out night after night. you're all perfectly aware of the crimes you're committing, and you want to just go on committing them. and blaming your political opposition for your crimes.
/pol/ is very boring. very, very boring.
or blaming "the jews", of course. who can forget, you on /pol/ love to blame "the jews" for every crime you commit. whether it's mass immigration, or wokeness.
>>538173357instead of trying to take what the rich people have why don't you spend your time trying make them feel like the imasculated consumerist faggots they are by working on your memes