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The National Socialist Revolution was the last hope for human redemption in this age of cultural degeneration, racial bastardisation, economic enslavement and dysgenic human decline.
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>>538174912
>The National Socialist Revolution was the last hope for human redemption
how does a dogshit leftist ideology redeem humanity, dipshit?
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Fuck off you retarded Pakistani
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Hitler just wanted to save the West (and genocide a few tens of millions of people).

Whether we like it or not, the spirit of Europe came to be embodied in Hitler. And when he lost, the West died.
We are fascinated by the opinion of one of Hitler's war-time friends, Adolf Galland, that the Fuhrer would have transformed into a true pan-European had he managed to conquer the USSR, owing to the effort of the Slavs he had belatedly incorporated into the Wehrmacht.

God bless your soul, Adolf Hitler. Angel of War. The last great man of our race.
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>>538174912
NatSoc could never work because white boys are simps who worship women too much.
Even nazi guards felt sorry for jewesses and saved thousands of them.
Timmies killed millions of each other for this Jewish rose. You voted for this. Enjoy.
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>>538175383
Show flag shitskin
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>>538174912
It was the antithesis of the judaized neoliberal world of today, which does make it fascinating. Imagine how tired your arm would get from having it raised all the time. Hitler was a beast
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>>538174912
fascism is the way
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Fascism has failed every single time it has ever been tried
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>>538174912
\o

>>538174988
>no you HAVE to let millions of migrants pour into your countries
>be- because you just do, OK?!
Kys
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>>538176197
>Rome
>China
>Spain
Get btfo
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>>538174912
Come home young man
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>>538174912

Youre an obese virgin lmao
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>>538174912
youre a genetic dead end and a genuine waste of life, kill yourself
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>>538174912
Idk most of the nazi elite were pretty degenerate.
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>>538176501
>>538176506
>effeminate shame based insults
>cant refute the argument
Always the same with lefties lmao
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>>538176197
Fascism is the father of all political ideologies.
It all begins with right wing authoritarianism.
Rome wouldn't have been great without it's fascist roots.
So much of western society is based upon the fasces.
>>538174912
You are right, now in the present. But I hope you are wrong towards the future. Let's all individually work together towards our goals.
Help your family, help your friends, be the person the white race has to offer, financially and physically.
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>>538175469

Show hand Nigger
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>>538176655

Refute my point. You literally can’t. You can’t even get laid. Something even Billions of jeets do every day. Kys.
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>>538174912
Socialism is cringe and offers hope to no one other than jews.
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>>538174912
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>>538174912
>socialism
Fuck off commie
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>>538177011
>refute my point
>made no point
Do you actually speak english or are you reading off a script in Mumbai
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>>538174912
not the last, just the latest
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>>538177057
So get rid of the jews
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>>538177174
Aye, indeed. Whitepilled forever.
>>538177111
Marxist socialism is not Prussian "national" socialism. If that's hard to grasp, it's your own fault (IQ skill issue)
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>>538174912
Nazis were some of the biggest degenerates, pedos, drug addicts, murderers, cheaters, child killers, and all-round shitbags ever to have lived. Why should we look up to them?
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>>538175270
>Hitler just wanted to save the West
He wanted the lebensraum FOR ETHNIC GERMANS ONLY
>Hitler just wanted to save the West
By waging total war and getting millions of Germans killed
> the spirit of Europe came to be embodied in Hitler.
Metaphysic nonsense.
Go back to school
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>>538177501
Someone didnt read Mein Kampf
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>>538177156
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>>538177636
Script in Mumbai. Got it.
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>>538175270
Hitler was a thug, all he did was to screw over the German working class while enriching himself and his friends.

Explain how Hitler and all the high ranking nazis became multi-millionaires if all they wanted was to help the German people?
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the third reich was a potemkin regime used by globalist after they plunged their economy, forcing the cattle to dance to their tune, branding them in irreverent symbols unrelated to their actual non existant heritage - disseminating literal comic books scripts that they gave their lives for

the judas goat soon developing a meth addiction for pulling the wool over the eyes of piglets that left the world squealing
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>>538174912
How exactly? National Socialism didn't stop in 1945. Multiple movements have tried and failed to reignite National Socialism to stop all the things you are describing and it hasn't worked. Eighty fucking years and all Neo-Nazism
>that is to say all Nazism after the end of the Third Reich
has done is
>demonize all pro-white movements
>make pro-white movements all look bad
>split indigenous pro-white movements in non-germanic countries

You have these caricatures in your brain that are the result of jewish psyops designed to disempower you, make you hate your own White nation and keep any sort of movement divided.

Operation Sea Lion wasn't a myth, britbong. You would've arrived at relatively the same future you are dreading from Browns had Germany been able to invade Britain. Even supporters of Hitler were marked for death or imprisonment in the Black Book.

>cultural degeneration
None of this started until the 70s or 80s. By then the Greatest Generation were no longer in power.
>racial bastardisation
WW2 vets from all countries were opposed to desegregation and changing immigration standards overwhelmingly.
>economic enslavement
Define? From where I sit, all my economic activity being enslaved to benefit a centralized state versus being turned into goycattle by Capitalist jews both sound like economic enslavement.
>dysgenic human decline
This damn sure wasn't the fault of the WW2 Generation. These were some of the biggest turbo-chads in recent White history overwhelmingly.

/pol/'s "Great Awakening," and pushing of National Socialism was being done while Ghislaine Maxwell was overseeing the Far Left consuming Reddit. It's nothing but D&C by jews keeping everyone away from organic, patriotic awakening.
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>>538178129
MK was a best seller. If he just wanted to get rich, why did he die in the bunker? Doesnt make any sense

>>538178169
>dont make daddy mad or he'll beat me again
Thats what you sound like bro. Not exactly rousing my patriotic sentiments. The last 80 years hasn't been kind to your vision of America either, and your faction has zero (0) victories under its belt.

But hey, I'll bite. How do you intend to get rid of the jews and implement ethnostates in America? If you dont have a plan we have no reason not to go with Hitler.
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>>538178129
He gave the working class jobs.
Germany was struggling with unemployment before him.
Arguing that Hitler didn't care about working-class Germans is absolutely insane. He implemented a new system of industry, e.g.Oeffa bills, precisely to get them jobs.
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>>538178537
>MK was a best seller.
Had nothing to do with him making it mandatory to buy it and having all proceeds go directly to him?
He never cared about the German people.
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>>538178776
MK was a best seller prior to them seizing power dude

Keep grasping at straws though. Its always entertaining to watch you people flounder
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>>538174912
they were too autistic about soience, Nazi Germany is what happens if we let those freaks control society. We saw it during covid as well the same kinds of people totally fucked up society because of le soience, we're just lucky they didn't try to kill people who refused the vaxx but they totally would have if they could have gotten away with it
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>>538178591
>He gave the working class jobs.
Which jobs?
>Arguing that Hitler didn't care about working-class Germans is absolutely insane.
He sold them out to the rich industrialists, froze their wages and took away their hard saved money.
>e.g.Oeffa bills
Nothing good about the oeffa bills, but dont you even know these were created before Hitler came to power?

The only jobs Hitler ever "created" was in the military, funded by deficit spending. When the debt came due he was forced to invade and plunder neighbouring countries to avoid financial collapse.
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>>538178868
>MK was a best seller prior to them seizing power dude
Not true at all, barely sold 10k in the first year
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>>538174912
>hey, let me just nonchalantly drop another nice rare one out of the blue
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>>538179325
>Nazi Era & World War II (1925–1945)1925–1929: Sales were initially modest, with only about 23,000 copies sold in the first few years .1933: Sales skyrocketed to 850,000 copies in the first year Hitler became Chancellor.1939: The book had sold roughly 5,200,000 copies worldwide, earning Hitler millions in royalties.1945: By the end of World War II, over 12,000,000 copies were printed in various languages."

Truth is a Jewish plot to fool the proud Aryan man
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>>538179124
>Which jobs?
>hurr durr

>He sold them out to the rich industrialists, froze their wages and took away their hard saved money.
Household incomes went up. Employment remained high. This at a time when the Western world was still suffering.

>Nothing good about the oeffa bills, but dont you even know these were created before Hitler came to power?
Hitler appointed Schacht to push those programs even more.
>nothing good about putting people into work and turning yourself into the world's foremost power in the process
Okay...

>The only jobs Hitler ever "created" was in the military, funded by deficit spending.
False. The comparison between USSR and Nazi Germany is useful. Germans had much more consumer spending on luxuries compared to that entity, which your criticisms are much better aimed at.
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>>538179124
What, the entirety of the jobs created by the DAF doesnt count now? Do we just get to switch around definitions whenever its convinent for us, as you do?
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>>538176333
You guys do know that the Allied leadership would never have been in favor of any of this, right?
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>>538179947
another nice one
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>>538176431
>"American"
>telling me to, "come home"
>to a foreign leader who died hating Americans
>whose regime would've meant our golden age never came
Nah, I already am home. I feel sorry for you because you're either an expat German who won't just move back to the Fatherland or you've been psyopped by jews to hate your own national patrimony.
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>>538180153
>muh leadership
puppets & patsies
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>>538180153
They were told directly what would happen and did it anyway, and then proceeded to double down throughout the 50s and 60s. Of course, both FDR and Churchill had cabinets full of jews, so this should be obvious.

Doesnt matter what they wanted now. If they didnt want this then they failed. In the absence of leadership or any sort of plan from the 'patriot' side, we must look to the last group of white men that fought ZOG: the Germans.
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>>538180258
The founding fathers would have opted for isolationism and plausibly even siding with Germany to reduce England's influence on the US, not out of animosity for the English, more a recognition of the threat it has always represented to US sovereignty.

Proof of that threat is in our entanglements with world banks (headquartered in England) and in our untenable and ridiculous relationship with zionism, jewish financiers and israel.
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>>538177404
Same cancer by a different name, fuck off commie. All socialism is garbage, and all socialists are garbage.
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>>538174912
If it was over, the shills would be unnecessary
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>>538174988
gem!
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>>538177590
Your quote refutes none of his counter-arguments.
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>>538181022
Have you tried posting more frogs in an effort to fit in?
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>>538180879
>if it was over, me and my fellow shitwits could circle jerk in peace for eternity
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>>538181022
>Hitler only fought for Germans
>Posts quote of Hitler literally saying hes fighting for the entire world
Its a direct refutation of his point from the subject himself
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>>538175270
>Europe came to be embodied in Hitler
Yet you fail to see what other embodiments of Europe like Siegfried, Beowulf or Faust share in common
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It wasn't called an "Empire of 1000 Years" for nothing
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>>538178537
>your faction has zero (0) victories under its belt
What faction are you assuming that to be? Pro-White Americanism? It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-Nazis, it's never been given a chance.
The last movement to be Pro-White and American was the Klan and they had tons of victories. Before the Klan stopped being a Southern Nationalist organization
>a mistake imho
They
>held the Color Line across the South
>kept government in the hands of straight, white, christian men
>all in spite of losing a war to the fed a hundred years ago
So IDK, they were doing pretty swell.

>How do you intend to get rid of the jews
Expulsions to Israel by force if necessary.
>implement ethnostates in America?
You don't want to hear this but there are two options: a moral, spiritual revival of racial consciousness in America that is truly American first that motivates people to action.

It's already happening but it remains tainted by foreign ideologies and systems that cripple the movement. All those White Normies you hate are who you need to start waking up. Neo-Nazi Movements do not attract quality people. All these groups have ever done in my lifetime is keep people on the Plantation so to speak; keep voting for Establishment politicians who are kind of close to what we want.

You have to reawaken the actual heritage of Americans. Nobody who is well-adjusted is persuaded by the Wehraboo LARP.

>If you dont have a plan we have no reason not to go with Hitler.
What're you a fucking necromancer? You gonna resurrect him from the dead and put him in charge? How is that a better idea? We've had Neo-Nazism in the United States for 80 years and it has done nothing really for the Pro-White Movement, at all. They cannot name one single piece of legislation even a county or city government they have turned. They lose, constantly.
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>>538179507
You people don't have a monopoly on Pro-White Aura.
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>>538181728
>Pro-White Aura.
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>>538180500
The contention is that this was all their fault and their design, it's insane and historically ignorant.
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I think America would be fixed if people voted for Ron Paul in 2008 instead of Obama.
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>>538181269
>circle jerk
It's always projection with you silly billies
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>>538181815
Who do you think pulled their strings, anon?
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That's what you get if you get all your information from secondary sources
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>>538181654
>What faction are you assuming that to be? Pro-White Americanism? It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-Nazis, it's never been given a chance.
Is your premise that these 2 groups are mutually exclusive?
You don't get an early life section to check on an anonymous board, but if you did, anons who frame pro-white groups as mutually exclusive would be at the top of the list of early life sections you would need to check.

Although I do like the idea of the 2 dominant parties in the political discourse being Pro-White Americanism and American National Socialism.
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>>538181654
>It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-Nazis
Oh I'm sorry did Rockwells 12 dudes in uniform fuck up your entire racial solidarity movement? Clearly it wasnt strong in the first place.
>Expulsions to Israel by force if necessary
Explain how you justify this in an American democratic framework. In an ethnic framework its easy, in your framework its fundamentally 'un-American'.
>All those White Normies you hate are who you need to start waking up
I love white normies, wdym?
>They cannot name one single piece of legislation even a county or city government they have turned. They lose, constantly
Lets hear how many pieces of pro-white legislation you guys have passed. Oh, right. None.
>a moral, spiritual revival of racial consciousness in America that is truly American first that motivates people to action.
Thats what were doing right now

The Klan was amateur, and the shit your talking about is amateur. Its like your locked in the America of 1950. Its gone, anon, and its not coming back. You people fucked around for too long. You drug your feet and now there's too many migrants.

Let me guess. You intend for us to vote for these things, and maybe in 50-100 years, well actually have the support neccessary! Except we dont have a century to waste, do we?

>>538181728
Lets see Chicago today
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>>538174912
I instantly clocked this as an indian post in the catalog and I opened it just to check the flag, and seems I was right
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>>538180626
>They were told directly what would happen and did it anyway, and then proceeded to double down throughout the 50s and 60s.
>FDR and Churchill
The US kept quota systems until Hart-Celler that favored Whites. The UK didn't start slacking up and allowing non-White immigration until the 1980s.
>Doesnt matter what they wanted now. If they didnt want this then they failed.
Why do you guys never apply this same ire for the Third Reich? They had a goal and it failed and their goal was not Pan-White Evropa; by the 40s especially attitudes of friendliness towards other Aryans and even Nordics had totally evaporated. You can see this yourself in SS Pamphlets. But either way, they also failed. So why do the obvious efforts and inclinations of your own countrymen not get more generousness than a nation that was at war with us? Hitler dreamed of firebombing the entire East Coast.
>In the absence of leadership or any sort of plan from the 'patriot' side, we must look to the last group of white men that fought ZOG
Oh, so that'd be the Klan and people in America. We had Pat Buchanan who was basically Donald Trump if Donald Trump wasn't a drooling retard and insincere about his platform. There have been plenty of Pro-White Movements in Allied countries. They did succeed a lot, but even though they're your own countrymen you do not give them respect and keep in mind they actually were willing to enter the fight for their people and lost - but you can somehow give this charity to people who shot at your grandpa.

Make it make sense to me; how can you not see that you're psyopped?
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>>538182190
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>>538180738
What makes you think the Founders would side with Germany? That wasn't the realpolitik answer for the United States in the 1930s and 1940s. The UK was far from a threat to the United States by that time period.
But I do agree our rise towards global superpower was a bad thing.
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>>538174912
Dude in the middle touching the flag with the ground. Shameful
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>>538181183
Pepe makes me laugh. Cope about it. It belongs to a far more optimistic and high-energy Pro-White Movement. So I frogpost.
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>>538182471
sybau nufag
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>>538181728
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>>538182280
>Why do you guys never apply this same ire for the Third Reich?
They were destroyed externally, we were destroyed internally. Combat does not determine the correctness of a political position. If a caveman says 2+2=4, and his buddy beats the shit out of him with a club, does 2+2 still equal 4?

>Make it make sense to me; how can you not see that you're psyopped?
I am going to make this profoundly simple for you anon.

I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this. The American government does not.

Everything else is irrelevant.
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>>538176197
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>>538182871
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>>538182796
to be honest, fren, i think that is literally another one that that i should be given credit for finding :)
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>>538181306
Hitler's primary goal was for Germans, not Whites worldwide. This clashes directly with German policy too and even stated aims; they believed in a German Empire reigning supreme over all other Aryan nations for the benefit of Germany and no one else.
How the fuck you can think a regime motivated by revenge for WWI wanted to make a Frenchman equal to a German is completely beyond me.
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>>538181887
Pat Buchanan I think was the last legitimate political movement that could've stopped all this.
You name to me another presidential candidate who had rabbis storming on stage at his rallies to screech about him being an antisemite.
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>>538182183
>Is your premise that these 2 groups are mutually exclusive?
Yes. Speaking as an American, National Socialism is completely hostile to many of the political principles I hold dear. No matter how Pro-White it is, they would still see my civil liberties stripped and sovereignty taken away from the people. The two groups can't coexist; one will live and the other will die.
>Henry Ford
Who in spite of his opinions about jews and National Socialism still helped us win the war against Germany.
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>>538183017
You can have it fren
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>>538183087
Life isnt a comic book bro

Who were the last defenders of the Reichstag? Do you know?
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>>538183087
You wouldn't get it
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>>538174912
Yeah
We're
Well Aware
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>>538182190
>Oh I'm sorry did Rockwells
Yes he fucking did and he's a xenophilic traitor to his own country, idgaf how much you try and dress up his motivations. Neo-Nazism has literally been used by jews to advance their power repeatedly because they can just play victim and point to the people who want to kill them all. Next.
>Explain how you justify this in an American democratic framework.
They have proven themselves hostile to the interests of the American people and our own democratic values. They seek to usurp our institutions for their benefit and overthrow the Bill of Rights because people are waking up to what zionists are doing and how they've been fucking over our country with things like AIPAC for 40 years.
>Lets hear how many pieces of pro-white legislation you guys have passed.
All of them since the 1790s Immigration Act.
>Thats what were doing right now
And still failing to ensnare anyone but the most batshit insane and non-functional people in America.
I've been in the Movement, on the ground. I have sympathies to some portions of National Socialist thought. I spent years involved before I ever decided to directly affiliate. I quit because they don't actually do anything and never have. The more you learn about Movement Icons like James Mason the less I want any of these people having any authority over anyone at all.
>The Klan was amateur
There goes that Anti-White Propaganda. The Invisible Empire's control over the former Confederate States deserves study by any serious Pro-White Invididual. They seamlessly blended vigilante action that was necessary against a corrupt system with the procurement of political legitimacy. If you want my opinion their biggest mistake was trying to go Pan-American instead of SouthNat, but I will admit a national bias. That and the constant problem of keeping out morons and opportunists, which picrel himself saw as a reoccurring problem because he wanted a serious militant force of Confederate veterans and Southerns.
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>>538182190
Also
>Lets see Chicago today
Let's see Berlin today. Wonder if they'll cancel Christmas this year.
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>>538182606
Been using the board since the early 2010s, try the fuck again you dumb bitch.
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>>538183764
Oh, I thought we rebuilt Berlin in the shining example of American Democracy!

Whats wrong anon? You dont like what you see?
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>>538182699
>Combat does not determine the correctness of a political position.
That's true but I don't think you fully appreciate your own heritage because ironically your reaction to Anti-American Propaganda
>when I say, "American," I mean strictly Whites who can trace their ancestry to the 1600s and can find all of their DNA in the nations in picrel
was to embrace a Right-Wing brand of ethno-masochism. You are little better than a Leftist White Traitor Third Worldist; you think some foreign nation must come and save us poor benighted retards because you think we are inferior to them or in the moral wrong.
>I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this. The American government does not.
The American Republic was always meant to be a White Ethnostate. I don't have to give up wanting civil liberties or belief power should come from the people to want that because neither did my ancestors - not even the ones who fought in World War II.
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>>538178776
>He never cared about the German people.
that's why he fought voluntarily for germany during ww1?
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>>538183501
SS-Charlemagne I believe you're getting at. I'm not shocked foreign volunteers who had nowhere else to go and probably thought they would be hanged chose to stay and fight where they were at. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.
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>>538183534
You're right, I don't have to.
We won the war.
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>>538183923
Doctor Pierce's overall original criticism of GRL and Neo-Nazism was dead on the money and he oughta know. He saw it take the life of one of his close friends, Tomassi.

The massive problem all these movements have is they are made up of fringe lunatics who don't understand racially aware and patriotic Americans don't have an interest in LARPing as a foreign empire. Not the productive and capable people you would want involved at least.

Nationalists seem to always be able to understand National feeling nowadays until it's American or Anglophone. Canucks don't have this problem, I don't see why every other Anglophone country in "the Movement," does.

Even NSN just took National Socialism and gave it Australian characteristics. They got farther than anyone else but I judge them for laying down after the law struck them down.
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>>538184000
Say lil' bro, I don't care if Germany wants to turn itself into a German Ethnostate. I ltierally do not care. Don't threaten American interests and you can do whatever the fuck you want as far as I am concerned. I've been Non-Interventionist most of my adult political life.
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>>538184012
A political argument against someone in public is never meant to convince the other speaker.

Until next time, brainlet.
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>>538184320
>we
Who is (((we)))?
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>>538178129
Hitler was not about money. Same as Stalin and mao
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>>538184689
>posts the guy who was among the first to betray Hitler
Wew.
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>>538174912
fuck off nazi. the future belongs to islam. anyone not converted yet is a fucking kike
death to the west
death to america
death to israel
praise to allah
islam will win
Z
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>>538177590
Nobody ever reads what the Reich wrote.
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>>538184320
For Jews who than decided to genocide and enslave their 'liberators' what a way to 'win' anon truly. Was it worth enslaving and exterminating your own people dooming them to extinction and eternal slavery? Guess so. Never knew why you shabbos goyim prefer hell on earth with endless degenerancy and torment but here we are.
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>>538184287
I guess those guys didnt know Hitler wanted to ethnically cleanse them. If only those SS men had you there to educate them on what they were supposed to believe

>>538184320
And now jews rape our kids. Nice victory, bro

>>538184115
>third worldist
Save your ZOGisms for /uhg/
>you think some foreign nation must come and save us
Never said that, kinda weird that you would insinuate that I did
>The American Republic was always meant to be a White Ethnostate
And now its not. Your faction, at the height of its power with global pro-white sentiment, was unable to maintain it. So why should I believe that you'll suddendly become competent and turn things around?
>I don't have to give up wanting civil liberties or belief power should come from the people
What civil liberties do you think we want to take away? Why would you think that we dont think power comes from the people? Why do you assume that your solution (Klan 2.0) is pro-liberty? Your plan involves seizing civil liberties, its not sustainable otherwise

>>>538184620
Nigger I want a white American ethnostate, are you not listening

>>538183738
>Yes he fucking did and he's a xenophilic traitor to his own country
He actually fought in the war, unlike you. I trust his judgment more than yours. He was a *real* American. Also, he only put on a uniform because your faction was so utterly incompetent that he realized it was never going to work. And he was right

>>538183738
>They seamlessly blended vigilante action that was necessary against a corrupt system with the procurement of political legitimacy
To be clear I like the Klan and have no illusions about it, but vigilantes are by definition amateur. We need professionals with legal power. Had the Klan integrated with the Feds as the SS did this would be a different conversation, but alas, we are here.
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>>538180738
Its an absurd hypothetical to begin with. There was too much that happened between their time and WW2. The civil war being the more significant, then a global recession. I'm not sure how they would have navigated that one. The war couldn't have happened under anyone but Lincoln, and the global recession was relevant too. I'll stick with the isolationism position. The best data point on how the founders would have viewed Hitler is how they viewed Napoleon. It wasn't favorable, they viewed Napoleon much the same way you view Hitler and National Socialism. There isn't much reason to assume they'd support Hitler based on that, although supporting the UK and Russia would have been an equally unlikely position for the founders to take. The early United States had a favorable relationship with the Romanovs.
Our entry into war was the product of a cooperation between FDR and Churchill to bring the US into the war.
>>538183312
Sure, but the republic was subverted. Clearly. And the National Socialism of Germany addressed the root causes of that subversion. Something we have been unable to do (although that is happening now, largely due to the internet and this meme National Socialism you're engaging with now on this board).

The internet meme National Socialism has been more effective than any parade movement ever has.
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>>538174912
And it failed so we're fucked.

May Odin forgive us. The Allies deserve eternal punishment.
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>>538185008
Nobody here cares about what you say, get lost.
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>>538185093
Goebbels diary is unfortunately fake, for better or worse.

>>538185312
It ain't over till its over
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>>538185169
Because I'm gonna say it again: none of us voted for or supported this either.
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>>538182699
>I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this.

Silliness, NS were German nationalists. There is little connection between white nationalism (which predates nazism) and german national socialism.
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>>538186260
Then stop calling it a win; because we all very much lost
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>>538186260
Keep moving the goal post jew lover. Everyone here knows exactly what filth like you are.
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>>538174912
to the last German!
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>>538186484
That literally proved what the shill is and supports strongly. Keeps moving the goal posts and blatantly ignoring/misinpretering the points others make.
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>>538185235
>I guess those guys didn't know Hitler wanted to ethnically cleanse them.
They chose foreign occupiers over their own people. I don't think that says very much about their character, independent of whatever their fighting prowess was.
>And now jews rape our kids.
I like how you think an overwhelmingly antisemitic public would be OK with this either. I want solutions that aren't proven dead ends.
>And now its not.
Neither is Germany.
>Your faction
Are you a White American or not? We're supposed to be on the same side. Instead you're letting the oldest history geek revenge fantasy in the book continue to poison the well.
>What civil liberties do you think we want to take away?
You're a National Socialist. That'd be basically the entire Bill of Rights. But I'm not surprised you haven't figured this out. Like most internet NatSocs you didn't ever read the real literature, you listened to people who told you to and assumed they had read it and their viewpoints came from it.
>Why would you think that we dont think power comes from the people?
Fuhrerprinzip.
>Why do you assume your solution is pro-liberty?
Always was.
>Your plan involves seizing civil liberties
From Non-Whites and Euromutt Skinwalkers pretending to be American, sure.
>He actually fought in the war, unlike you.
One only wonders what people who served with him thought about him playing dress up as the people who killed his friends lead by a guy who died saying we were a mongrel race who deserved destruction.
>He only put on a uniform because your faction was so utterly incompetent that he realized it was never going to work. And he was right
Neo-Nazism has literally 0 political wins. I don't know what bubble you're in but all these movements are pathetic and alienate White Americans almost by design.
>vigilantes are by definition amateur
We kept our nation down here even after we lost the war.
>Had the Klan integrated with the Feds
Are you retarded? We were literally opposed to them.
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>>538186469
Is there any line in picrel that is not applicable to America
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Hitler sent Europe to shit in real time
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>>538185277
>meme national socialism is the reason we are fighting this
No, it's the reason we have King Shabbos Goy in office right now and soon the global disinformation war is going to be won by jews because they're pushing anti-free speech laws against the internet. Nice W, faggots.
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>>538185544
Except that never existed and you can just point to a White Britain. But no, keep larping an alt-history fairytale. Surely - surely - that is the solution.
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>>538186484
All of those men were antisemites and you've been captured by a jewish psyop designed to keep killing the pro-white movement.
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>>538186487
>t. type of people who say shit like this to you on /pol/
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>>538174912
Fascism is infantile and cannibalistic.
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>>538186568
Even I agree with elements of National Socialism, anon, but copy-pasting German NS into the US without any attempt at respect for American history is just asking for any movement to fail.
How do I know?
Because that's exactly what the movement has done and it keeps failing.
Patriot Front for all its problems understands this. That is why it is the fastest growing Pro-White Movement in North America; too bad it's a grift run by a guy living with his divorced dad.
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>>538174912
Funny how /pol/kikes goon to nazis but never mention the stasi
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>>538186568
That shill doesn't understand what Commander Rockwell and Dr. Pierce stood for or did.
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american nazis want to be white supremacists ..... but have a minimal state and individual rights enshrined by the constitution... which is a product of 18th century liberalism.

LOL
LAMAO
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>>538187129
These two things are not and have not been historically mutually exclusive.
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>>538186633
You lack perspective. If that happens, the overton window moves over your American ideal. Your revolution becomes the antithesis to their thesis. But Hitler was always going to be the one to deliver the JQ. Did you think that could happen any other way? I don't think you're wrong that the mileage is limited in terms of memes though. The energy drained out of it, and it wasn't just the shilling and the bullshit. We're not German WW1 veterans struggling through a recession under Weimar conditions. We're not those guys. Our times are different, theirs are just a reference point to explain where we are based on what we know.
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>>538177156
just don't bother, i've tried way too hard to actually reason with them.
They're either
a. braindead
b. jeets
c. jews
d. other type of brown
e. jeet paid by jews
f. all of the above.
trying to engage in argument with them is a waste of time and effort.
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>>538186566
>foreign occupiers
Thats how the French viewed the jews. Thankfully, we killed those Frenchmen and made sure that jews would be free to bring endless migrants into France. What a win! So much winning
>We're supposed to be on the same side
We view you as deadweight. You want ambiguous reforms that will keep us mired in political stagnation for decades while the enemy brings in more migrants every year. Historically this has been true.you refuse to evolve and cling to a vision of America that was already dead when Rockwell was in high school.
> From Non-Whites and Euromutt Skinwalkers pretending to be American, sure
Then we are of the same mindset concerning civil liberties
>lead by a guy who died saying we were a mongrel race who deserved destruction
Bro, you say this immediately after saying you want to remove civil liberties from non-whites and jews. You literally agree with him youre just too proud to admit it lmao. Hitler loved cowboys and wanted the same America you and I want. He was accurate in his predictions, dont be a thin skinned bitch and take it in stride
>That'd be basically the entire Bill of Rights
Ok so youre just making things up now. We are against 'freedom of the press', because its incompatible with democratic government. You have to choose one or the other. Otherwise there is nothing incompatible.
>Neo-Nazism has literally 0 political wins
Name one political win for white Americans in the last 80 years.
>Are you retarded? We were literally opposed to them.
And rightly so, but what the Klan should have done is institutionalized themselves into a government agency. By remaining amateurs they allowed themselves to be destroyed. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but in retrospect I prefer the professional SS to the amateur Klan. The SS actually solved their jewish problem, unlike us.
>Neither is Germany
Yeah that was literally our fault, we did that, the pro-white America you so love and defend. Nice job fucking up the planet for jews
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>>538187181
I think you are very much mistaken.
Racially driven fascism is incompatible with limited government and the U.S. Constitution.

for america the "fascism" part is utterly problematic.
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>>538176364
>look all these cases that didn't call themselves fascists and actually are explicitly anti fascist (China) are actually le fascist
kek , I mean I kinda get it, every single society that embraced fascism actually collapsed even harder and faster than commies
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>>538187189
I can get almost any White man to agree with me. National Socialists can't say the same.

Nobody wants your gay authoritarian collectivist state.
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>>538186736
>they were antisemites
It doesnt matter you idiot, they died for jews. Thats whats important. They were tricked because they were NAIVE. Rockwell had the honor and courage to admit he was tricked, thats the difference

>>538186893
Its all so tiresome. You'd think they would at least do some homework before coming here,

>>538187328
They talk like old zogbots, though they could be subcontractors or just straight up Eglin. Very much doubt its organic.

>>538186835
>but copy-pasting German NS into the US without any attempt at respect for American history is just asking for any movement to fail
Why do you assume that's what we want? Anon the form of government is secondary to the worldview.

Can you please just read MK already and save us both time?
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>>538187489
In GERMANY we stalk and harass freethinkers with our secret police
And in America now too
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>>538187489
>howdy do my fellow white American, dont you just love the Klan and want to lynch all niggers and jews
...cmon now anon, even I know thats a stretch and I'm an out-and-out Nazi
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>>538174912
Only if they actually had a revolution with the Strasser brothers. They would’ve formed an anti capitalist front with the Soviet Union and would’ve opened up trade with each other to avoid oil shortages in National Socialist Germany and forced the UK to take the knee, while America would be faced with a Cold War that both Germany and the Soviet Union would’ve been able to handle together. Would’ve made a better name for the white man as opposed to ethno-centric expansionism.
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>>538187369
>Thankfully, we killed those Frenchmen
The sheer ignorance to think French Nationalism is the sole property of WW2 Nazi collaborators is pretty fucking wild.
>We view you as deadweight.
K. Keep that same attitude.
>You want ambiguous reforms
I want the Republic of my forefathers back. I think that's consistent.
>Then we are of the same mindset concerning civil liberties
You guys would put me in a camp for my political views. I'm not an idiot and I'm not going along with your bullshit and I don't have to be to want total remigration.
>Hitler loved cowboys and wanted the same America you and I want.
Actual real internal documents and letters from within the Third Reich prove they always viewed us as a future strategic enemy and during their lifetimes they actively disavowed any attempt at American National Socialist parties like the German American Bund.
>He was accurate in his predictions
Not concerning me and mine he wasn't.
>Ok so youre just making things up now.
No, I'm not, I know what a real National Socialist government actually looks like. You have a fantasy caricature in your brain sold to you by jewish media and shills online.
>freedom of the press is incompatible with democratic government
It is essential to a democratic government.
>Name one political win for white Americans.
Hi.
>the Klan should have institutionalized themselves into a government agency
Of course a spineless faggot who needs Daddy Government uWu thinks that is what the Klan should've done. The Klan would've stopped being the Klan then. Even so, we captured State government successfully a hundred years after the war was over.
>I prefer the professional SS
Because you hate yourself and your own people completely and are in love with a foreign regime.
>Yeah that was literally our fault
I don't think any American would give a shit about Pro-White Germany dude. The only reason we ended up at war was because they threatened a balance of power that favored us.
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>>538187421
The image I posted literally proves you wrong.
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>>538174912
True.
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>>538187607
>they died for jews.
They died for the future of the Republic. You don't get to pontificate over the dead, say what they died for and then lie about it.
>Why do you assume that's what we want?
I see it in how people post, act and talk.
>the form is government is secondary to the worldview
And the National Socialist worldview is inherently anti-Republican. Therefore it cannot and would not produce a Republic, nor would those who defend National Socialism create one.
I want a White Republic. I don't see how you look at this as bad, at all.
>Can you please just read MK
I have already along with the writings of many major NS thinkers and even Neo-Nazis. While I sympathize with a few of the viewpoints I have hard disagreements and my experience with, "the Movement," in person gives me zero confidence.
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>>538187704
Of course I don't lead with that, I don't have to retard.
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>>538187489
>no true scotsman
>ad hom
make your case without resorting to faggotry
>>538184670
don't shit on your own work at the finishline
this board has done a lot to degrade nationalism in americans, they deserve to be questioned about that.
but you're not proposing anything actionable, except to disregard the work of other anons that got the JQ out of containment.
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>>538180258
Except he never hated Americans, he admired them in Mein Kampf for multiple reasons, including the industrial power, the westward expansion taking the territory of the "less civilized" which he thought to replicate with his Lebensraum Konzept, and the strict racial segregation laws at he time.

He hated democracy, particularly the german one at the time which obviously tried to copy the american role model, and argued that the press and wealthy elites manipulate public opinion for personal gain (obviously true) and in particular, the media controlled by jews using it as a tool designed to break down traditional nations and values.
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>>538188191
I speak directly from lived experience. Spend less time on the internet.
>you're not proposing anything actionable
I have proposed many actionable things. Founding Fathers literally wrote about JQ. Fuck off.
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>>538188417
If he admired us then he shouldn't have threatened our interests.
Sorry it played out that way. Make better decisions next time.
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>>538174912
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>we all get to love in the aftermath of that
>we all get to contemplate how horrible the brutality was
>how horrible the betrayal was
>and now we get to see how every orifice of our civilizations and peoplea are raped and gaped to death
>in slown,agonizing civilizational inertia timescales


i hope you are happy, Winston Churchill? oh I bet you are you old fat alcoholic toad
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>>538174912
racial based identity politics are equally retarded as identifying as a dog
anti individual, pro collective racial abolition is the way forward(except cultural jews)
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>>538188417
Your argueing against a shill who keeps moving goal posts and using fallacies. All the while not understanding the difference between Germanic NSDAP and American Natsoc under Commander Rockwell and Doctor Pierce. All the while insisting they are in fact the same thing while dying for Jews in ww2 enabling the total enslavement of the world and genocide of his own people, is somehow a 'win'.
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>>538187901
>free press
Is incompatible with democratic government.

In a democratic society, government positions are determined by the majority. The majority determines its positions from the press. And the press determines its positions from the bank. Thus, the banks determine the positions of the government. Free press is incompatible with democratic society. You must choose one or the other.
>The Klan would've stopped being the Klan then.
Oh I'm sorry are we concerned with looking cool or winning? Who gives a shit about the identity when the war is lost. Congratulations, you kept your identity and your movement was annihilated.
>Even so, we captured State government successfully a hundred years after the war was over
And how did that turn out
>in love with a foreign regime
Then win my love back.
>I don't think any American would give a shit about Pro-White Germany dude
Evidently we did, since we've supported mass migration across Europe and spent decades demonizing ethnic nationalism.

That was your pro-white, ever victorious WW2 veterans BTW. Next time you go to shit on Rockwell remember that it was your precious vets that sabatoged your pro-white movements, withdrew their support, and scuttled off to retirement homes while their grandchildren were inundated with foreigners. Never forget this.

>>538188144
>I don't see how you look at this as bad, at all
I am 32 years old. At no point in my life, ever, has parliamentary government accomplished anything. In fact it usually makes everything worse. Furthermore, every place we export parliamentary government to fails spectacularly. I dont want to abolish congress, but I do want them to wear uniforms and be subject to the UCMJ. If a senator fucks around he should be shot. If you think this is un-American I really dont care. You people have let the problem fester for too long with no solution in sight. Besides, America needs ethnostates that would have significantly greater sovereignty than states do today.
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>>538188478
What remarkable arrogance you have, even to the grave you will act smug as your nation burns.

And then you wonder why we dont want to side with you!
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>>538186068
Regardless, the adoption of the swastika instead of a semitic icon is telling.
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>>538188593
>dude just accept mass migration it is pro worker I promise
Eat a bullet

>>538188598
My favorite part is when he says he was involved with 'the movement' at some ambiguous point in the 70s or 80s but then is completely ignorant as to the actual goals of said movement
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>>538188771
nice strawman nigger
i’m pro borders and anti migration while the state grows and builds
i reject bourgeois racial politics as i do any identity politics
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>>538188456
Is the republic still ongoing?
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>>538188771
My favorite was how the shill completely contradicted himself when responding to me in only a single response ala
>>538184320
>>538186260
Been a long time since I ran into such a retarded shill LMAO.
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>>538188925
Are arab muslims born in Germany German?
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>>538189022
if you seperate from the raghead culture, yes
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>>538189199
Stalin killed millions of kidrapers in the great purge while simultaneously industrializing and modernizing the ussr
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>>538189066
So you view states as mere economic zones, and borders just means of the ruling class (whether oligarchs or party members) to shuffle around workers like resources. Is that correct?

>>538189378
Yeah and he also gave them an autonomous ethnostate.
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>>538178169
>39 posts by this id
>same posts as the other thread with 25posts by this id
Disgusting.
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>>538188771
its an unlikely character, he'd have to be in his 60s or 70s
not sure what the point is
probably just about shaving energy off the board at this point



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