The National Socialist Revolution was the last hope for human redemption in this age of cultural degeneration, racial bastardisation, economic enslavement and dysgenic human decline.
>>538174912>The National Socialist Revolution was the last hope for human redemptionhow does a dogshit leftist ideology redeem humanity, dipshit?
Fuck off you retarded Pakistani
Hitler just wanted to save the West (and genocide a few tens of millions of people).Whether we like it or not, the spirit of Europe came to be embodied in Hitler. And when he lost, the West died. We are fascinated by the opinion of one of Hitler's war-time friends, Adolf Galland, that the Fuhrer would have transformed into a true pan-European had he managed to conquer the USSR, owing to the effort of the Slavs he had belatedly incorporated into the Wehrmacht. God bless your soul, Adolf Hitler. Angel of War. The last great man of our race.
>>538174912NatSoc could never work because white boys are simps who worship women too much.Even nazi guards felt sorry for jewesses and saved thousands of them.Timmies killed millions of each other for this Jewish rose. You voted for this. Enjoy.
>>538175383Show flag shitskin
>>538174912It was the antithesis of the judaized neoliberal world of today, which does make it fascinating. Imagine how tired your arm would get from having it raised all the time. Hitler was a beast
>>538174912fascism is the way
Fascism has failed every single time it has ever been tried
>>538174912\o>>538174988>no you HAVE to let millions of migrants pour into your countries >be- because you just do, OK?!Kys
>>538176197>Rome>China>SpainGet btfo
>>538174912Come home young man
>>538174912Youre an obese virgin lmao
>>538174912youre a genetic dead end and a genuine waste of life, kill yourself
>>538174912Idk most of the nazi elite were pretty degenerate.
>>538176501>>538176506>effeminate shame based insults>cant refute the argumentAlways the same with lefties lmao
>>538176197Fascism is the father of all political ideologies. It all begins with right wing authoritarianism.Rome wouldn't have been great without it's fascist roots. So much of western society is based upon the fasces. >>538174912You are right, now in the present. But I hope you are wrong towards the future. Let's all individually work together towards our goals.Help your family, help your friends, be the person the white race has to offer, financially and physically.
>>538175469Show hand Nigger
>>538176655Refute my point. You literally can’t. You can’t even get laid. Something even Billions of jeets do every day. Kys.
>>538174912Socialism is cringe and offers hope to no one other than jews.
>>538174912
>>538174912>socialismFuck off commie
>>538177011>refute my point>made no pointDo you actually speak english or are you reading off a script in Mumbai
>>538174912not the last, just the latest
>>538177057So get rid of the jews
>>538177174Aye, indeed. Whitepilled forever.>>538177111Marxist socialism is not Prussian "national" socialism. If that's hard to grasp, it's your own fault (IQ skill issue)
>>538174912Nazis were some of the biggest degenerates, pedos, drug addicts, murderers, cheaters, child killers, and all-round shitbags ever to have lived. Why should we look up to them?
>>538175270>Hitler just wanted to save the WestHe wanted the lebensraum FOR ETHNIC GERMANS ONLY>Hitler just wanted to save the WestBy waging total war and getting millions of Germans killed> the spirit of Europe came to be embodied in Hitler.Metaphysic nonsense.Go back to school
>>538177501Someone didnt read Mein Kampf
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>>538177636Script in Mumbai. Got it.
>>538175270Hitler was a thug, all he did was to screw over the German working class while enriching himself and his friends.Explain how Hitler and all the high ranking nazis became multi-millionaires if all they wanted was to help the German people?
the third reich was a potemkin regime used by globalist after they plunged their economy, forcing the cattle to dance to their tune, branding them in irreverent symbols unrelated to their actual non existant heritage - disseminating literal comic books scripts that they gave their lives forthe judas goat soon developing a meth addiction for pulling the wool over the eyes of piglets that left the world squealing
>>538174912How exactly? National Socialism didn't stop in 1945. Multiple movements have tried and failed to reignite National Socialism to stop all the things you are describing and it hasn't worked. Eighty fucking years and all Neo-Nazism>that is to say all Nazism after the end of the Third Reichhas done is>demonize all pro-white movements>make pro-white movements all look bad>split indigenous pro-white movements in non-germanic countriesYou have these caricatures in your brain that are the result of jewish psyops designed to disempower you, make you hate your own White nation and keep any sort of movement divided.Operation Sea Lion wasn't a myth, britbong. You would've arrived at relatively the same future you are dreading from Browns had Germany been able to invade Britain. Even supporters of Hitler were marked for death or imprisonment in the Black Book.>cultural degenerationNone of this started until the 70s or 80s. By then the Greatest Generation were no longer in power.>racial bastardisationWW2 vets from all countries were opposed to desegregation and changing immigration standards overwhelmingly.>economic enslavementDefine? From where I sit, all my economic activity being enslaved to benefit a centralized state versus being turned into goycattle by Capitalist jews both sound like economic enslavement.>dysgenic human declineThis damn sure wasn't the fault of the WW2 Generation. These were some of the biggest turbo-chads in recent White history overwhelmingly./pol/'s "Great Awakening," and pushing of National Socialism was being done while Ghislaine Maxwell was overseeing the Far Left consuming Reddit. It's nothing but D&C by jews keeping everyone away from organic, patriotic awakening.
>>538178129MK was a best seller. If he just wanted to get rich, why did he die in the bunker? Doesnt make any sense>>538178169>dont make daddy mad or he'll beat me againThats what you sound like bro. Not exactly rousing my patriotic sentiments. The last 80 years hasn't been kind to your vision of America either, and your faction has zero (0) victories under its belt. But hey, I'll bite. How do you intend to get rid of the jews and implement ethnostates in America? If you dont have a plan we have no reason not to go with Hitler.
>>538178129He gave the working class jobs. Germany was struggling with unemployment before him.Arguing that Hitler didn't care about working-class Germans is absolutely insane. He implemented a new system of industry, e.g.Oeffa bills, precisely to get them jobs.
>>538178537>MK was a best seller.Had nothing to do with him making it mandatory to buy it and having all proceeds go directly to him?He never cared about the German people.
>>538178776MK was a best seller prior to them seizing power dudeKeep grasping at straws though. Its always entertaining to watch you people flounder
>>538174912they were too autistic about soience, Nazi Germany is what happens if we let those freaks control society. We saw it during covid as well the same kinds of people totally fucked up society because of le soience, we're just lucky they didn't try to kill people who refused the vaxx but they totally would have if they could have gotten away with it
>>538178591>He gave the working class jobs.Which jobs?>Arguing that Hitler didn't care about working-class Germans is absolutely insane.He sold them out to the rich industrialists, froze their wages and took away their hard saved money.>e.g.Oeffa billsNothing good about the oeffa bills, but dont you even know these were created before Hitler came to power?The only jobs Hitler ever "created" was in the military, funded by deficit spending. When the debt came due he was forced to invade and plunder neighbouring countries to avoid financial collapse.
>>538178868>MK was a best seller prior to them seizing power dudeNot true at all, barely sold 10k in the first year
>>538174912>hey, let me just nonchalantly drop another nice rare one out of the blue
>>538179325>Nazi Era & World War II (1925–1945)1925–1929: Sales were initially modest, with only about 23,000 copies sold in the first few years .1933: Sales skyrocketed to 850,000 copies in the first year Hitler became Chancellor.1939: The book had sold roughly 5,200,000 copies worldwide, earning Hitler millions in royalties.1945: By the end of World War II, over 12,000,000 copies were printed in various languages."Truth is a Jewish plot to fool the proud Aryan man
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>>538179124>Which jobs?>hurr durr>He sold them out to the rich industrialists, froze their wages and took away their hard saved money.Household incomes went up. Employment remained high. This at a time when the Western world was still suffering.>Nothing good about the oeffa bills, but dont you even know these were created before Hitler came to power?Hitler appointed Schacht to push those programs even more.>nothing good about putting people into work and turning yourself into the world's foremost power in the processOkay...>The only jobs Hitler ever "created" was in the military, funded by deficit spending.False. The comparison between USSR and Nazi Germany is useful. Germans had much more consumer spending on luxuries compared to that entity, which your criticisms are much better aimed at.
>>538179124What, the entirety of the jobs created by the DAF doesnt count now? Do we just get to switch around definitions whenever its convinent for us, as you do?
>>538176333You guys do know that the Allied leadership would never have been in favor of any of this, right?
>>538179947another nice one
>>538176431>"American">telling me to, "come home">to a foreign leader who died hating Americans>whose regime would've meant our golden age never cameNah, I already am home. I feel sorry for you because you're either an expat German who won't just move back to the Fatherland or you've been psyopped by jews to hate your own national patrimony.
>>538180153>muh leadershippuppets & patsies
>>538180153They were told directly what would happen and did it anyway, and then proceeded to double down throughout the 50s and 60s. Of course, both FDR and Churchill had cabinets full of jews, so this should be obvious.Doesnt matter what they wanted now. If they didnt want this then they failed. In the absence of leadership or any sort of plan from the 'patriot' side, we must look to the last group of white men that fought ZOG: the Germans.
>>538180258The founding fathers would have opted for isolationism and plausibly even siding with Germany to reduce England's influence on the US, not out of animosity for the English, more a recognition of the threat it has always represented to US sovereignty.Proof of that threat is in our entanglements with world banks (headquartered in England) and in our untenable and ridiculous relationship with zionism, jewish financiers and israel.
>>538177404Same cancer by a different name, fuck off commie. All socialism is garbage, and all socialists are garbage.
>>538174912If it was over, the shills would be unnecessary
>>538174988gem!
>>538177590Your quote refutes none of his counter-arguments.
>>538181022Have you tried posting more frogs in an effort to fit in?
>>538180879>if it was over, me and my fellow shitwits could circle jerk in peace for eternity
>>538181022>Hitler only fought for Germans>Posts quote of Hitler literally saying hes fighting for the entire worldIts a direct refutation of his point from the subject himself
>>538175270>Europe came to be embodied in HitlerYet you fail to see what other embodiments of Europe like Siegfried, Beowulf or Faust share in common
It wasn't called an "Empire of 1000 Years" for nothing
>>538178537>your faction has zero (0) victories under its beltWhat faction are you assuming that to be? Pro-White Americanism? It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-Nazis, it's never been given a chance.The last movement to be Pro-White and American was the Klan and they had tons of victories. Before the Klan stopped being a Southern Nationalist organization>a mistake imhoThey>held the Color Line across the South>kept government in the hands of straight, white, christian men>all in spite of losing a war to the fed a hundred years agoSo IDK, they were doing pretty swell.>How do you intend to get rid of the jewsExpulsions to Israel by force if necessary.>implement ethnostates in America?You don't want to hear this but there are two options: a moral, spiritual revival of racial consciousness in America that is truly American first that motivates people to action.It's already happening but it remains tainted by foreign ideologies and systems that cripple the movement. All those White Normies you hate are who you need to start waking up. Neo-Nazi Movements do not attract quality people. All these groups have ever done in my lifetime is keep people on the Plantation so to speak; keep voting for Establishment politicians who are kind of close to what we want.You have to reawaken the actual heritage of Americans. Nobody who is well-adjusted is persuaded by the Wehraboo LARP.>If you dont have a plan we have no reason not to go with Hitler.What're you a fucking necromancer? You gonna resurrect him from the dead and put him in charge? How is that a better idea? We've had Neo-Nazism in the United States for 80 years and it has done nothing really for the Pro-White Movement, at all. They cannot name one single piece of legislation even a county or city government they have turned. They lose, constantly.
>>538179507You people don't have a monopoly on Pro-White Aura.
>>538181728>Pro-White Aura.
>>538180500The contention is that this was all their fault and their design, it's insane and historically ignorant.
I think America would be fixed if people voted for Ron Paul in 2008 instead of Obama.
>>538181269>circle jerkIt's always projection with you silly billies
>>538181815Who do you think pulled their strings, anon?
That's what you get if you get all your information from secondary sources
>>538181654>What faction are you assuming that to be? Pro-White Americanism? It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-Nazis, it's never been given a chance.Is your premise that these 2 groups are mutually exclusive?You don't get an early life section to check on an anonymous board, but if you did, anons who frame pro-white groups as mutually exclusive would be at the top of the list of early life sections you would need to check.Although I do like the idea of the 2 dominant parties in the political discourse being Pro-White Americanism and American National Socialism.
>>538181654>It has been constantly hamstrung by LARPing Neo-NazisOh I'm sorry did Rockwells 12 dudes in uniform fuck up your entire racial solidarity movement? Clearly it wasnt strong in the first place. >Expulsions to Israel by force if necessaryExplain how you justify this in an American democratic framework. In an ethnic framework its easy, in your framework its fundamentally 'un-American'. >All those White Normies you hate are who you need to start waking upI love white normies, wdym?>They cannot name one single piece of legislation even a county or city government they have turned. They lose, constantlyLets hear how many pieces of pro-white legislation you guys have passed. Oh, right. None. >a moral, spiritual revival of racial consciousness in America that is truly American first that motivates people to action.Thats what were doing right nowThe Klan was amateur, and the shit your talking about is amateur. Its like your locked in the America of 1950. Its gone, anon, and its not coming back. You people fucked around for too long. You drug your feet and now there's too many migrants. Let me guess. You intend for us to vote for these things, and maybe in 50-100 years, well actually have the support neccessary! Except we dont have a century to waste, do we? >>538181728Lets see Chicago today
>>538174912I instantly clocked this as an indian post in the catalog and I opened it just to check the flag, and seems I was right
>>538180626>They were told directly what would happen and did it anyway, and then proceeded to double down throughout the 50s and 60s.>FDR and ChurchillThe US kept quota systems until Hart-Celler that favored Whites. The UK didn't start slacking up and allowing non-White immigration until the 1980s.>Doesnt matter what they wanted now. If they didnt want this then they failed.Why do you guys never apply this same ire for the Third Reich? They had a goal and it failed and their goal was not Pan-White Evropa; by the 40s especially attitudes of friendliness towards other Aryans and even Nordics had totally evaporated. You can see this yourself in SS Pamphlets. But either way, they also failed. So why do the obvious efforts and inclinations of your own countrymen not get more generousness than a nation that was at war with us? Hitler dreamed of firebombing the entire East Coast.>In the absence of leadership or any sort of plan from the 'patriot' side, we must look to the last group of white men that fought ZOGOh, so that'd be the Klan and people in America. We had Pat Buchanan who was basically Donald Trump if Donald Trump wasn't a drooling retard and insincere about his platform. There have been plenty of Pro-White Movements in Allied countries. They did succeed a lot, but even though they're your own countrymen you do not give them respect and keep in mind they actually were willing to enter the fight for their people and lost - but you can somehow give this charity to people who shot at your grandpa.Make it make sense to me; how can you not see that you're psyopped?
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>>538180738What makes you think the Founders would side with Germany? That wasn't the realpolitik answer for the United States in the 1930s and 1940s. The UK was far from a threat to the United States by that time period.But I do agree our rise towards global superpower was a bad thing.
>>538174912Dude in the middle touching the flag with the ground. Shameful
>>538181183Pepe makes me laugh. Cope about it. It belongs to a far more optimistic and high-energy Pro-White Movement. So I frogpost.
>>538182471sybau nufag
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>>538182280>Why do you guys never apply this same ire for the Third Reich?They were destroyed externally, we were destroyed internally. Combat does not determine the correctness of a political position. If a caveman says 2+2=4, and his buddy beats the shit out of him with a club, does 2+2 still equal 4?>Make it make sense to me; how can you not see that you're psyopped?I am going to make this profoundly simple for you anon. I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this. The American government does not. Everything else is irrelevant.
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>>538176120>>538176197
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>>538182796to be honest, fren, i think that is literally another one that that i should be given credit for finding :)
>>538181306Hitler's primary goal was for Germans, not Whites worldwide. This clashes directly with German policy too and even stated aims; they believed in a German Empire reigning supreme over all other Aryan nations for the benefit of Germany and no one else.How the fuck you can think a regime motivated by revenge for WWI wanted to make a Frenchman equal to a German is completely beyond me.
>>538181887Pat Buchanan I think was the last legitimate political movement that could've stopped all this.You name to me another presidential candidate who had rabbis storming on stage at his rallies to screech about him being an antisemite.
>>538182183>Is your premise that these 2 groups are mutually exclusive?Yes. Speaking as an American, National Socialism is completely hostile to many of the political principles I hold dear. No matter how Pro-White it is, they would still see my civil liberties stripped and sovereignty taken away from the people. The two groups can't coexist; one will live and the other will die.>Henry FordWho in spite of his opinions about jews and National Socialism still helped us win the war against Germany.
>>538183017You can have it fren
>>538183087Life isnt a comic book broWho were the last defenders of the Reichstag? Do you know?
>>538183087You wouldn't get it
>>538174912Yeah We're Well Aware
>>538182190>Oh I'm sorry did RockwellsYes he fucking did and he's a xenophilic traitor to his own country, idgaf how much you try and dress up his motivations. Neo-Nazism has literally been used by jews to advance their power repeatedly because they can just play victim and point to the people who want to kill them all. Next.>Explain how you justify this in an American democratic framework.They have proven themselves hostile to the interests of the American people and our own democratic values. They seek to usurp our institutions for their benefit and overthrow the Bill of Rights because people are waking up to what zionists are doing and how they've been fucking over our country with things like AIPAC for 40 years.>Lets hear how many pieces of pro-white legislation you guys have passed.All of them since the 1790s Immigration Act.>Thats what were doing right nowAnd still failing to ensnare anyone but the most batshit insane and non-functional people in America.I've been in the Movement, on the ground. I have sympathies to some portions of National Socialist thought. I spent years involved before I ever decided to directly affiliate. I quit because they don't actually do anything and never have. The more you learn about Movement Icons like James Mason the less I want any of these people having any authority over anyone at all.>The Klan was amateurThere goes that Anti-White Propaganda. The Invisible Empire's control over the former Confederate States deserves study by any serious Pro-White Invididual. They seamlessly blended vigilante action that was necessary against a corrupt system with the procurement of political legitimacy. If you want my opinion their biggest mistake was trying to go Pan-American instead of SouthNat, but I will admit a national bias. That and the constant problem of keeping out morons and opportunists, which picrel himself saw as a reoccurring problem because he wanted a serious militant force of Confederate veterans and Southerns.
>>538182190Also>Lets see Chicago todayLet's see Berlin today. Wonder if they'll cancel Christmas this year.
>>538182606Been using the board since the early 2010s, try the fuck again you dumb bitch.
>>538183764Oh, I thought we rebuilt Berlin in the shining example of American Democracy! Whats wrong anon? You dont like what you see?
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>>538182699>Combat does not determine the correctness of a political position.That's true but I don't think you fully appreciate your own heritage because ironically your reaction to Anti-American Propaganda>when I say, "American," I mean strictly Whites who can trace their ancestry to the 1600s and can find all of their DNA in the nations in picrelwas to embrace a Right-Wing brand of ethno-masochism. You are little better than a Leftist White Traitor Third Worldist; you think some foreign nation must come and save us poor benighted retards because you think we are inferior to them or in the moral wrong.>I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this. The American government does not.The American Republic was always meant to be a White Ethnostate. I don't have to give up wanting civil liberties or belief power should come from the people to want that because neither did my ancestors - not even the ones who fought in World War II.
>>538178776>He never cared about the German people.that's why he fought voluntarily for germany during ww1?
>>538183501SS-Charlemagne I believe you're getting at. I'm not shocked foreign volunteers who had nowhere else to go and probably thought they would be hanged chose to stay and fight where they were at. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.
>>538183534You're right, I don't have to.We won the war.
>>538183923Doctor Pierce's overall original criticism of GRL and Neo-Nazism was dead on the money and he oughta know. He saw it take the life of one of his close friends, Tomassi.The massive problem all these movements have is they are made up of fringe lunatics who don't understand racially aware and patriotic Americans don't have an interest in LARPing as a foreign empire. Not the productive and capable people you would want involved at least.Nationalists seem to always be able to understand National feeling nowadays until it's American or Anglophone. Canucks don't have this problem, I don't see why every other Anglophone country in "the Movement," does.Even NSN just took National Socialism and gave it Australian characteristics. They got farther than anyone else but I judge them for laying down after the law struck them down.
>>538184000Say lil' bro, I don't care if Germany wants to turn itself into a German Ethnostate. I ltierally do not care. Don't threaten American interests and you can do whatever the fuck you want as far as I am concerned. I've been Non-Interventionist most of my adult political life.
>>538184012A political argument against someone in public is never meant to convince the other speaker.Until next time, brainlet.
>>538184320>weWho is (((we)))?
>>538178129Hitler was not about money. Same as Stalin and mao
>>538184689>posts the guy who was among the first to betray HitlerWew.
>>538174912fuck off nazi. the future belongs to islam. anyone not converted yet is a fucking kikedeath to the westdeath to americadeath to israelpraise to allahislam will winZ
>>538177590Nobody ever reads what the Reich wrote.
>>538184320For Jews who than decided to genocide and enslave their 'liberators' what a way to 'win' anon truly. Was it worth enslaving and exterminating your own people dooming them to extinction and eternal slavery? Guess so. Never knew why you shabbos goyim prefer hell on earth with endless degenerancy and torment but here we are.
>>538184287I guess those guys didnt know Hitler wanted to ethnically cleanse them. If only those SS men had you there to educate them on what they were supposed to believe >>538184320And now jews rape our kids. Nice victory, bro>>538184115>third worldist Save your ZOGisms for /uhg/>you think some foreign nation must come and save usNever said that, kinda weird that you would insinuate that I did >The American Republic was always meant to be a White EthnostateAnd now its not. Your faction, at the height of its power with global pro-white sentiment, was unable to maintain it. So why should I believe that you'll suddendly become competent and turn things around? >I don't have to give up wanting civil liberties or belief power should come from the peopleWhat civil liberties do you think we want to take away? Why would you think that we dont think power comes from the people? Why do you assume that your solution (Klan 2.0) is pro-liberty? Your plan involves seizing civil liberties, its not sustainable otherwise >>>538184620Nigger I want a white American ethnostate, are you not listening >>538183738>Yes he fucking did and he's a xenophilic traitor to his own countryHe actually fought in the war, unlike you. I trust his judgment more than yours. He was a *real* American. Also, he only put on a uniform because your faction was so utterly incompetent that he realized it was never going to work. And he was right>>538183738>They seamlessly blended vigilante action that was necessary against a corrupt system with the procurement of political legitimacyTo be clear I like the Klan and have no illusions about it, but vigilantes are by definition amateur. We need professionals with legal power. Had the Klan integrated with the Feds as the SS did this would be a different conversation, but alas, we are here.
>>538180738Its an absurd hypothetical to begin with. There was too much that happened between their time and WW2. The civil war being the more significant, then a global recession. I'm not sure how they would have navigated that one. The war couldn't have happened under anyone but Lincoln, and the global recession was relevant too. I'll stick with the isolationism position. The best data point on how the founders would have viewed Hitler is how they viewed Napoleon. It wasn't favorable, they viewed Napoleon much the same way you view Hitler and National Socialism. There isn't much reason to assume they'd support Hitler based on that, although supporting the UK and Russia would have been an equally unlikely position for the founders to take. The early United States had a favorable relationship with the Romanovs.Our entry into war was the product of a cooperation between FDR and Churchill to bring the US into the war.>>538183312Sure, but the republic was subverted. Clearly. And the National Socialism of Germany addressed the root causes of that subversion. Something we have been unable to do (although that is happening now, largely due to the internet and this meme National Socialism you're engaging with now on this board).The internet meme National Socialism has been more effective than any parade movement ever has.
>>538174912And it failed so we're fucked.May Odin forgive us. The Allies deserve eternal punishment.
>>538185008Nobody here cares about what you say, get lost.
>>538185093Goebbels diary is unfortunately fake, for better or worse. >>538185312It ain't over till its over
>>538185169Because I'm gonna say it again: none of us voted for or supported this either.
>>538182699>I want a white ethnostate. NS supports this.Silliness, NS were German nationalists. There is little connection between white nationalism (which predates nazism) and german national socialism.
>>538186260Then stop calling it a win; because we all very much lost
>>538186260Keep moving the goal post jew lover. Everyone here knows exactly what filth like you are.
>>538174912to the last German!
>>538186484That literally proved what the shill is and supports strongly. Keeps moving the goal posts and blatantly ignoring/misinpretering the points others make.
>>538185235>I guess those guys didn't know Hitler wanted to ethnically cleanse them.They chose foreign occupiers over their own people. I don't think that says very much about their character, independent of whatever their fighting prowess was.>And now jews rape our kids.I like how you think an overwhelmingly antisemitic public would be OK with this either. I want solutions that aren't proven dead ends.>And now its not.Neither is Germany. >Your factionAre you a White American or not? We're supposed to be on the same side. Instead you're letting the oldest history geek revenge fantasy in the book continue to poison the well.>What civil liberties do you think we want to take away?You're a National Socialist. That'd be basically the entire Bill of Rights. But I'm not surprised you haven't figured this out. Like most internet NatSocs you didn't ever read the real literature, you listened to people who told you to and assumed they had read it and their viewpoints came from it.>Why would you think that we dont think power comes from the people?Fuhrerprinzip.>Why do you assume your solution is pro-liberty?Always was.>Your plan involves seizing civil libertiesFrom Non-Whites and Euromutt Skinwalkers pretending to be American, sure.>He actually fought in the war, unlike you.One only wonders what people who served with him thought about him playing dress up as the people who killed his friends lead by a guy who died saying we were a mongrel race who deserved destruction.>He only put on a uniform because your faction was so utterly incompetent that he realized it was never going to work. And he was rightNeo-Nazism has literally 0 political wins. I don't know what bubble you're in but all these movements are pathetic and alienate White Americans almost by design.>vigilantes are by definition amateurWe kept our nation down here even after we lost the war.>Had the Klan integrated with the FedsAre you retarded? We were literally opposed to them.
>>538186469Is there any line in picrel that is not applicable to America
Hitler sent Europe to shit in real time
>>538185277>meme national socialism is the reason we are fighting thisNo, it's the reason we have King Shabbos Goy in office right now and soon the global disinformation war is going to be won by jews because they're pushing anti-free speech laws against the internet. Nice W, faggots.
>>538185544Except that never existed and you can just point to a White Britain. But no, keep larping an alt-history fairytale. Surely - surely - that is the solution.
>>538186484All of those men were antisemites and you've been captured by a jewish psyop designed to keep killing the pro-white movement.
>>538186487>t. type of people who say shit like this to you on /pol/
>>538174912Fascism is infantile and cannibalistic.
>>538186568Even I agree with elements of National Socialism, anon, but copy-pasting German NS into the US without any attempt at respect for American history is just asking for any movement to fail.How do I know?Because that's exactly what the movement has done and it keeps failing.Patriot Front for all its problems understands this. That is why it is the fastest growing Pro-White Movement in North America; too bad it's a grift run by a guy living with his divorced dad.
>>538174912Funny how /pol/kikes goon to nazis but never mention the stasi
>>538186568That shill doesn't understand what Commander Rockwell and Dr. Pierce stood for or did.
american nazis want to be white supremacists ..... but have a minimal state and individual rights enshrined by the constitution... which is a product of 18th century liberalism.LOLLAMAO
>>538187129These two things are not and have not been historically mutually exclusive.
>>538186633You lack perspective. If that happens, the overton window moves over your American ideal. Your revolution becomes the antithesis to their thesis. But Hitler was always going to be the one to deliver the JQ. Did you think that could happen any other way? I don't think you're wrong that the mileage is limited in terms of memes though. The energy drained out of it, and it wasn't just the shilling and the bullshit. We're not German WW1 veterans struggling through a recession under Weimar conditions. We're not those guys. Our times are different, theirs are just a reference point to explain where we are based on what we know.
>>538177156just don't bother, i've tried way too hard to actually reason with them.They're eithera. braindeadb. jeetsc. jewsd. other type of browne. jeet paid by jewsf. all of the above.trying to engage in argument with them is a waste of time and effort.
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>>538186566>foreign occupiers Thats how the French viewed the jews. Thankfully, we killed those Frenchmen and made sure that jews would be free to bring endless migrants into France. What a win! So much winning >We're supposed to be on the same sideWe view you as deadweight. You want ambiguous reforms that will keep us mired in political stagnation for decades while the enemy brings in more migrants every year. Historically this has been true.you refuse to evolve and cling to a vision of America that was already dead when Rockwell was in high school.> From Non-Whites and Euromutt Skinwalkers pretending to be American, sureThen we are of the same mindset concerning civil liberties >lead by a guy who died saying we were a mongrel race who deserved destructionBro, you say this immediately after saying you want to remove civil liberties from non-whites and jews. You literally agree with him youre just too proud to admit it lmao. Hitler loved cowboys and wanted the same America you and I want. He was accurate in his predictions, dont be a thin skinned bitch and take it in stride>That'd be basically the entire Bill of RightsOk so youre just making things up now. We are against 'freedom of the press', because its incompatible with democratic government. You have to choose one or the other. Otherwise there is nothing incompatible. >Neo-Nazism has literally 0 political winsName one political win for white Americans in the last 80 years. >Are you retarded? We were literally opposed to them.And rightly so, but what the Klan should have done is institutionalized themselves into a government agency. By remaining amateurs they allowed themselves to be destroyed. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but in retrospect I prefer the professional SS to the amateur Klan. The SS actually solved their jewish problem, unlike us. >Neither is GermanyYeah that was literally our fault, we did that, the pro-white America you so love and defend. Nice job fucking up the planet for jews
>>538187181I think you are very much mistaken.Racially driven fascism is incompatible with limited government and the U.S. Constitution.for america the "fascism" part is utterly problematic.
>>538176364>look all these cases that didn't call themselves fascists and actually are explicitly anti fascist (China) are actually le fascistkek , I mean I kinda get it, every single society that embraced fascism actually collapsed even harder and faster than commies
>>538187189I can get almost any White man to agree with me. National Socialists can't say the same.Nobody wants your gay authoritarian collectivist state.
>>538186736>they were antisemitesIt doesnt matter you idiot, they died for jews. Thats whats important. They were tricked because they were NAIVE. Rockwell had the honor and courage to admit he was tricked, thats the difference >>538186893Its all so tiresome. You'd think they would at least do some homework before coming here, >>538187328They talk like old zogbots, though they could be subcontractors or just straight up Eglin. Very much doubt its organic.>>538186835>but copy-pasting German NS into the US without any attempt at respect for American history is just asking for any movement to failWhy do you assume that's what we want? Anon the form of government is secondary to the worldview. Can you please just read MK already and save us both time?
>>538187489In GERMANY we stalk and harass freethinkers with our secret policeAnd in America now too
>>538187489>howdy do my fellow white American, dont you just love the Klan and want to lynch all niggers and jews ...cmon now anon, even I know thats a stretch and I'm an out-and-out Nazi
>>538174912Only if they actually had a revolution with the Strasser brothers. They would’ve formed an anti capitalist front with the Soviet Union and would’ve opened up trade with each other to avoid oil shortages in National Socialist Germany and forced the UK to take the knee, while America would be faced with a Cold War that both Germany and the Soviet Union would’ve been able to handle together. Would’ve made a better name for the white man as opposed to ethno-centric expansionism.
>>538187369>Thankfully, we killed those FrenchmenThe sheer ignorance to think French Nationalism is the sole property of WW2 Nazi collaborators is pretty fucking wild.>We view you as deadweight.K. Keep that same attitude.>You want ambiguous reformsI want the Republic of my forefathers back. I think that's consistent.>Then we are of the same mindset concerning civil libertiesYou guys would put me in a camp for my political views. I'm not an idiot and I'm not going along with your bullshit and I don't have to be to want total remigration.>Hitler loved cowboys and wanted the same America you and I want.Actual real internal documents and letters from within the Third Reich prove they always viewed us as a future strategic enemy and during their lifetimes they actively disavowed any attempt at American National Socialist parties like the German American Bund.>He was accurate in his predictionsNot concerning me and mine he wasn't.>Ok so youre just making things up now.No, I'm not, I know what a real National Socialist government actually looks like. You have a fantasy caricature in your brain sold to you by jewish media and shills online.>freedom of the press is incompatible with democratic governmentIt is essential to a democratic government.>Name one political win for white Americans.Hi.>the Klan should have institutionalized themselves into a government agencyOf course a spineless faggot who needs Daddy Government uWu thinks that is what the Klan should've done. The Klan would've stopped being the Klan then. Even so, we captured State government successfully a hundred years after the war was over.>I prefer the professional SSBecause you hate yourself and your own people completely and are in love with a foreign regime.>Yeah that was literally our faultI don't think any American would give a shit about Pro-White Germany dude. The only reason we ended up at war was because they threatened a balance of power that favored us.
>>538187421The image I posted literally proves you wrong.
>>538174912True.
>>538187607>they died for jews.They died for the future of the Republic. You don't get to pontificate over the dead, say what they died for and then lie about it.>Why do you assume that's what we want?I see it in how people post, act and talk.>the form is government is secondary to the worldviewAnd the National Socialist worldview is inherently anti-Republican. Therefore it cannot and would not produce a Republic, nor would those who defend National Socialism create one.I want a White Republic. I don't see how you look at this as bad, at all.>Can you please just read MKI have already along with the writings of many major NS thinkers and even Neo-Nazis. While I sympathize with a few of the viewpoints I have hard disagreements and my experience with, "the Movement," in person gives me zero confidence.
>>538187704Of course I don't lead with that, I don't have to retard.
>>538187489>no true scotsman>ad hommake your case without resorting to faggotry>>538184670don't shit on your own work at the finishlinethis board has done a lot to degrade nationalism in americans, they deserve to be questioned about that.but you're not proposing anything actionable, except to disregard the work of other anons that got the JQ out of containment.
>>538180258Except he never hated Americans, he admired them in Mein Kampf for multiple reasons, including the industrial power, the westward expansion taking the territory of the "less civilized" which he thought to replicate with his Lebensraum Konzept, and the strict racial segregation laws at he time. He hated democracy, particularly the german one at the time which obviously tried to copy the american role model, and argued that the press and wealthy elites manipulate public opinion for personal gain (obviously true) and in particular, the media controlled by jews using it as a tool designed to break down traditional nations and values.
>>538188191I speak directly from lived experience. Spend less time on the internet.>you're not proposing anything actionableI have proposed many actionable things. Founding Fathers literally wrote about JQ. Fuck off.
>>538188417If he admired us then he shouldn't have threatened our interests.Sorry it played out that way. Make better decisions next time.
>we all get to love in the aftermath of that>we all get to contemplate how horrible the brutality was>how horrible the betrayal was>and now we get to see how every orifice of our civilizations and peoplea are raped and gaped to death>in slown,agonizing civilizational inertia timescalesi hope you are happy, Winston Churchill? oh I bet you are you old fat alcoholic toad
>>538174912racial based identity politics are equally retarded as identifying as a doganti individual, pro collective racial abolition is the way forward(except cultural jews)
>>538188417Your argueing against a shill who keeps moving goal posts and using fallacies. All the while not understanding the difference between Germanic NSDAP and American Natsoc under Commander Rockwell and Doctor Pierce. All the while insisting they are in fact the same thing while dying for Jews in ww2 enabling the total enslavement of the world and genocide of his own people, is somehow a 'win'.
>>538187901>free pressIs incompatible with democratic government. In a democratic society, government positions are determined by the majority. The majority determines its positions from the press. And the press determines its positions from the bank. Thus, the banks determine the positions of the government. Free press is incompatible with democratic society. You must choose one or the other. >The Klan would've stopped being the Klan then. Oh I'm sorry are we concerned with looking cool or winning? Who gives a shit about the identity when the war is lost. Congratulations, you kept your identity and your movement was annihilated. >Even so, we captured State government successfully a hundred years after the war was overAnd how did that turn out >in love with a foreign regimeThen win my love back. >I don't think any American would give a shit about Pro-White Germany dudeEvidently we did, since we've supported mass migration across Europe and spent decades demonizing ethnic nationalism.That was your pro-white, ever victorious WW2 veterans BTW. Next time you go to shit on Rockwell remember that it was your precious vets that sabatoged your pro-white movements, withdrew their support, and scuttled off to retirement homes while their grandchildren were inundated with foreigners. Never forget this. >>538188144>I don't see how you look at this as bad, at allI am 32 years old. At no point in my life, ever, has parliamentary government accomplished anything. In fact it usually makes everything worse. Furthermore, every place we export parliamentary government to fails spectacularly. I dont want to abolish congress, but I do want them to wear uniforms and be subject to the UCMJ. If a senator fucks around he should be shot. If you think this is un-American I really dont care. You people have let the problem fester for too long with no solution in sight. Besides, America needs ethnostates that would have significantly greater sovereignty than states do today.
>>538188478What remarkable arrogance you have, even to the grave you will act smug as your nation burns. And then you wonder why we dont want to side with you!
>>538186068Regardless, the adoption of the swastika instead of a semitic icon is telling.
>>538188593>dude just accept mass migration it is pro worker I promise Eat a bullet >>538188598My favorite part is when he says he was involved with 'the movement' at some ambiguous point in the 70s or 80s but then is completely ignorant as to the actual goals of said movement
>>538188771nice strawman niggeri’m pro borders and anti migration while the state grows and buildsi reject bourgeois racial politics as i do any identity politics
>>538188456Is the republic still ongoing?
>>538188771My favorite was how the shill completely contradicted himself when responding to me in only a single response ala >>538184320>>538186260Been a long time since I ran into such a retarded shill LMAO.
>>538188925Are arab muslims born in Germany German?
>>538189022if you seperate from the raghead culture, yes
>>538189199Stalin killed millions of kidrapers in the great purge while simultaneously industrializing and modernizing the ussr
>>538189066So you view states as mere economic zones, and borders just means of the ruling class (whether oligarchs or party members) to shuffle around workers like resources. Is that correct? >>538189378Yeah and he also gave them an autonomous ethnostate.
>>538178169>39 posts by this id>same posts as the other thread with 25posts by this idDisgusting.
>>538188771its an unlikely character, he'd have to be in his 60s or 70snot sure what the point isprobably just about shaving energy off the board at this point
>>538189444States belong to the workers and the value of their labor, the state is there to enforce and protect them and plan the future.also as far as a russian ethnostate i wouldn’t consider the russification of ussr to be an attempt at an ethnostate and it was heavily exaggerated by the west
>>538189631My baseline assumption is that he's playing the role of the older, wiser American who outgrew his "edgy Nazi phase" and has not moved onto to various forms of American philosophies. This frames NatSoc has childish, American philosophy as mature (and therefore desirable), and implies that previous generations of white nationalists inevitably 'moved on' and that we just haven't 'gotten there yet'. Its a decently thought up character that passes all the board room qualifications for a sanitized de-toothed ethnonationalist, which is what ZOG desires. Normally I'd make a stink about it but frankly I dont want to derail the conversation. Better to talk about NatSoc with a liar than to talk about lying with liars. This way lurkers can get educated and learn arguments. Thats how I learned from oldfags ~10 years ago and it worked on me.
>>538189960Yes but when 'the workers' arent tied to a racial group and can be anyone (Indians immigrants in the US, for example) whats to stop replacement migration? And if it doesnt want or doesnt care about racially homogenous states, what use is being anti-immigration? Do recent indian immigrants now get a say in our immigration policies, since the state belongs to the worker and they are workers?
>>538190114Has now moved on*
>>538190114yeah. I guess it is all for the lurkers ultimatelyLARPs are shitty but I can see how its just better to roll with it to get writing on the wall.>>538188629this was a good post. that the way the US organizes itself as a 'republic' is somehow novel is a horseshit position. organizational systems organize themselves for effective management. everything is going to be some variation of distributed services, and the more functional a people and nation the more liberty they will invariably have.having a dysfunctional people is always going to be some kind of fucking tyranny.
>>538180258America sucks. It’s brown, addicted to weed, has no culture, is broke out of money there are no jobs for white men, and the women are the worlds most massive anti family cunts.You don’t get to do stolen valor on the past when that past has been destroyed by the very “America” you’re defending
>>538190307the state remains anti immigration to build up and industrialize no one in no one outuntil the end goal is reachedthe main purpose is stability because it is seen worldwide that the status quo is very hostile to socialist statesthere must be a strong state or states to counteract this with allyship and trade until more bourgeois nations are overthrown and the world can move to end stage communism
>>538190114I've talked to old school white supremacists and Natsoc who somehow survived to the end. They are uh...very distinct personality and are quite interesting to talk to but extremely rare nowadays. Even 'old' Natsocs are 10s converts. Before that and we enter fossil territory. Even on old /pol/ those guys were extremely rare. Natsoc took over because nobody could beat them and weren't sore losers like the liberals who fled because they couldn't accept a defeat.Those guys are salty as fuck hardasses who managed to survive the endless nonstop onslaught of crackdowns, suppression, and assassinations. They never outgrew shit. Quite the contrary, they are extremely vindicated and remoralized even if most of them are preparing to hunker down now. Nowadays its a younger guy's game. They accomplished what they set out to do which was to pass the torch. They did and quietly bowed out. As the job was done and their ranks were flooded with a new breed of reinforcements.Which gets pretty funny when you meet the new blood neo nazis and skinheads compared to the older vets. A lot of them are quietly getting pushed out for not being radical enough, a FED, or not sufficiently loyal to the cause. Just look at what happened to the Aryan Brotherhood in only 10 years. Somehow that is the only 'nazis' who cropped up and glowniggers are having a major problem keeping the white supremes buried. So hard in fact that the white supremes started talking to other racial supremes as well. Last time that happened it got Malcolm X whacked by the FBI when the glowniggers found out. As it turns out globohomo and Jews are a great mutual topic of conversation. Which has them big mad.They cannot even keep the supremes down anymore. What about the mysterious death of militia crackdowns too? They cannot even do that anymore, either.
>>538181728Where that was built is literally this nigger shit now
>>538182414“Our”America was solidly controlled by Jews during the time so none of it had anything to do with “us” retard
>>538183087lolNot the poor Frenchmen
>>538190623>the more functional a people and nation the more liberty they will invariably haveIts funny Hitler says the same thing in MK, and it rings in my head everything someone brings up loss of civil liberties. Which is frequent. Liberty is efficient, if you can have the individual units of a system problem-solve on their own level it saves on overhead. Governmental overreach requires overhead. Its expensive. And every level of overreach is exponentially more expensive. ZOG is learning this the hard way as we speak. >>538190797And what happens after the lock down? Do people have a right to an ethnically homogenous homeland or not? >>538190824I cannot imagine how utterly blackpilling it must have been to be a skinhead in the 80s or 90s, when ZOG was at its height. Despite their ostensibly shitty life choices I cant help but respect them. I can remember the real oldfags on old /pol/, they didnt like the stormfags and they didnt like anime. But they also didnt really understand how to properly meme. They were very bitter but I am very glad they picked the more respectful path of bowing out and letting the younger guys make it fun and inviting. There were long threads about this topic once upon a time. I wonder if any of GLRs guys are aware of what we did here, they were pretty old but some of them were still alive ten years ago.
>>538191095Picrel was Rockwells boys at his funeral anniversary in 2017
>>538188629>free pressThen regulate banks and what they can do, not the press. How can the citizenry make informed unbiased decisions without a free press? I will concede corporate intrusion onto the press is a problem. That doesn't mean Freedom of Speech, as a principle, is something I disagree with.>Oh I'm sorry are we concerned with looking cool or winning?This coming from an Internet Nazi is funny as fuck since your whole ideology is built on aesthetics and your knowledge of theory is quote-mines for twitter posts.>you kept your identityDid you miss the part where I said I disagreed with the Klan going from SouthNat to AmeriNat?>Then win my love back.I'm doing my best but frankly you have an ingrained hatred of America that is deep and it's not something I'm gonna be able to completely fix. It's something that has been done to you psychologically and is probably rooted in lots of personal things you don't want to talk about as much as it is politics.>Evidently we did, since we've supported mass migrationI never voted for or supported mass migration>spent decades demonizing ethnic nationalismThat'd be jews, not us.>it was your precious vets that sabotaged your pro-white movements, withdrew their support and scuttled off to retirement homesLol. Lmao, even. You don't know anything.I'm not much farther than you in age; I'll be 31 this year. What you and I have lived through is an atrophying of American vitalism brought on by extreme luxury and jewish subversion, both things Founders like PicRel would be harmful to the Republic. I believe inherently in a Republic for my people as much as I believe in an ethnostate. I do not want bigger government because the erection of a large, centralizing Federal Government has proven to be a powerful tool for jews to subvert. Before the MIC which men like Eisenhower warned everyone about.
>>538174912trueand you won't do shit about it
>>538188665You have the same flag as me but you are obviously not American.I don't know where the idea comes from that I like how things are in terms of conditions. But I don't and will not agree to give all my posterity over to some strongman who promises to fix it. History is littered with disappointments in that regard.
>>538188965Is the Third Reich?
>>538188976If loving America makes me a retard then make sure you send me to New Auschwitz on the short-bus. Good luck getting me there.
>>538191216Your progeny’s country is literally dead and the corpse is run by Jews you dumbass
>>538189162He didn't want to, "smash the new world order." He wanted to replace it with a Pro-German one. If you were not a German you would never have enjoyed the full benefits of the reich. You would've been a colonial serf.
>>538190114I think when they're arguing against 'collectives' they're really arguing against a people's ability to be unifiable, its pre-loading slander against functional populism. if they can pigeonhole to the left its communism, if they can pigeonhole it to the right its nazism. its just a framing and slander game. every cunt org, corporate cartel, political coalition and ultimately the uniparty and the larger incentivized "system" that runs shit are all acting as collectives, so the real context ends up being collectivization for me, not for thee, and the left runs around cementing a negative bias on the concept unionizing the political adversaries of the nation.I could see why talking about the lying would right away would kill the thread too early, but I don't mind recapping the bullshit at the end of the thread after letting it run.
>>538184689>Who is (((we)))?it's one of those delusional WASPs who think that USA "is" established and ruled by them for some fuckingly unknown reasonjust blow it off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haym_Salomon
>>538191282What America? It’s a majority brown country and is culturally distancing itself from its past. It’s a fake stonkz economy and weed addicts now. At best what’s left of America are a few cancers addled boomers on the verge of heavens gate
>>538191302you yap a lot for being in a country that isn't far behind the US's degradation.
>>538189500I've only been in this thread today. If there's an another Pro-White American Anon around, by all means let me link up with him.
>>538191321No he just wanted Germany to be a world power and peer of Britain so it could establish its own trade and hegemonic system.Or wait, when Britain and America exploit nations in a global class system that’s good but it’s bad when Germans do it? Well we know whose at the (((top))) of the food chain in the US and how they feel about Germans.
>>538191383Sorry but he’s busy in the Santa Claus is real and you better believe in him thread.
>>538191095Commander Rockwell and Doctor Pierce recruited and bet on the rejects for a reason. Everyone else was too comfortable being golems and selling their children to be raped and murdered by Jews and their pets. Those 'reject' skinheads toughed it out to the end. Even when white gangs got compromised and ripped to shreds by glowniggers and traitors.Yeah I talked to them a long time ago and recently a while back again. Back then they showed up because stormfront glowed and they heard that Anonymous had decided to throw a ideological grand melee where EVERYONE was invited. No matter their beliefs or ideology. The only rule was that you had to win. So that lured them out and they took part in the ideological shitflinging and food fight but shockingly enough even as they kept on winning they didn't get banned. Soon the previous losers and vanquished acknowledged their defeat and many of them even joined them. Soon in only a few years /pol/ became Natsoc with the losers either acknowleding their defeat or fleeing. Anonymous finally determined its official ideology if you want to change it? Beat them in a debate. They aren't sore losers who cannot handle a defeat.However this massive shift in demographics did flood out the old guard but the old guard realized that wasn't a problem. They did it. They held on long enough to successfully pass on the torch and the new guys went wild. They didn't really see much of a point to stick around after that. It was a young man's game now, after all. So they just quietly...went away on their own.The only problems I heard about came from the gangs because a lot of them were about money only or sellouts. The new guys weren't for that and there were a LOT of them. They also knew how to spot a traitor and a glownigger. So you had their ranks be shuffled for over a decade now. Its interesting talking to them too. They consider themselves brownshirts because they understand somebody needs to be the boots on the streets.
>>538191376Japan is miles ahead of the US. The foundational social culture is strict as hell still. Japanese people are deeply serious, even poor whores.
>>538190114I'm only like 1-2 years younger than you.Like I said: I still have National Socialist sympathies. I was active in, "the Movement," and found nothing but disappointment. I stay in touch with a few people who's respect I still have or who I am friends with although why I got out is a long story that coincides a lot with my ideological development. Providence moves in mysterious ways.I'm glad Fed/Badjacketing is still eating the Movement alive. I wish most of the movement were Feds. It would make their incompetence more excusable. If you think I'm, "sanitized and de-toothed," you really should see some of my posts on other parts of the board.
>>538174912True but what can you do? We are 80 years past the fall
>>538191168I think America should be partitioned into numerous ethnostates for whites, blacks, natives, hispanics, and multi-ethnic trade zones which treat mixed race people as their own 'Volk'. Like a bunch of mini Reichs. These states would each have great leeway on the setup of their governments, where state governors would take the place of the Fuhrer. Then a very loose federal government would exist to maintain trade balances, interstate disputes, and *occasionally* diplomacy. And thats it. My plan is closer to the founders vision than yours, and, funny enough, gives the federal government less power than yours. And is distinctly less violent. We could even call this union of ethnostates the 'United States'. Its a crazy idea, I know, but I think it can work.
>>538190623>having a dysfunctional people is always going to be some kind of fucking tyrannyThis is our biggest problem: we lack the moral framework to maintain the Republic, have for a long time.This is why I believe a moral and spiritual racial consciousness is essential to our future. I don't believe NatSoc is going to produce a actual leader and given how easily the US Movement is duped by judeophiles like Trump I wouldn't trust one who did show up honestly.Give me someone with the moral character of say PicRel and we'll talk.
>>538191578Interesting idea but what everyone always misses is where the fuck would the jobs and money come from. Nobody properly understands that the US benefits from being part of the global Jewish money system. No, your hard work didn’t build that. No, free market capitalism didn’t produce that. It’s a world empire of Jewish finance sucking on the world’s tit so Americans can have a cheap party.A lot of people just sort of assume the jobs or the money are just magically there. “If tomorrow all the things were gone I’d worked for all my life…” except no, if you lost everything and had to start again THERES NO FUCKING JOBS and you will never own a home. You’ve been priced out.
>>538190824Most of them are like that because they've been the same thing for 50 years and couldn't ever get out if they wanted to.If this is again meant as some comment toward me I'm not sure, "outgrew," is the right word for me. I was always Pro-White but it took years to mature it and yeah I can thank some NatSoc types for that. Where I have always balked and will continue to is their vociferous hatred of all things America. If it's not Germanaboo LARP they don't think it's White, that's my experience with them.Also after having been around them I would not trust any of them to be in charge of anything, let alone a government. They would burn it all down around their heads in a week.
If only Germany stayed the way like it did in the 30's.I'm confident that they would've been the pinnacle of the west and eventually spread to other western countries naturally.They cleaned up their country good and became an absolute unit, but the chimpout against neighboring countries blew it all away and the ruskies and angloids sure took advantage of it.Mustache man was spiritually correct but he bit more than he could chew, which we are all paying for currently.
>>538190862Don't remind me.Also - fuck of, Tojo.
>>538191547Yeah man after you posted this >>538186762 I literally do not believe you did anything with any irl natsoc group. No one under 40 says neo-nazi, and especially not anons. So I think youre full of shit but its fun to beat you up so I just play along >>538191726The German Workers Front (DAF in German) was created essentially for this problem. An American DAF would fill that gap during the transition period with massive state projects, like the autobahn. Over time the DAF itself transitions away from a jobs program to a training and workers rights program, but can still be leveraged for large workforce allocation in times of crises. It will be up to the individual states to figure out their trade situation. America has very diverse geography and they will have to play to their strengths. It would be chaotic at first, yes, but if we do not we will be annihilated and enslaved by international finance. Better a short period of chaos for long peace than permenant enslavement.
I’m just tired of this whole thing and I don’t know why we have to pretend any more. The Germans did the social engineering ploy that was the French Revolution. They did the social engineering ploy that was the Russian Revolution. Weishaupt and the Illuminati were all Germans. Jews weren’t even allowed in the early iterations of the Illuminati. Karl Marx was a German agent and Friedrich Engles was his handler. The Germans pushed liberalism, anarchism, communism basically any kind of society-destroying, retarding faggotry, while retaining strict discipline for themselves. They did the social engineering ploy that was the occupation of Poland during WWII, that had the same objectives/outcomes as their other social engineering ploys: murdering the elites, shutting down education, stealing 200,000 blonde-haired, blue-eyed children to screw up the demographics, extracting slave labor, crippling economic competition. The sooner you all come to realize that every other European’s colonial empire is outside the geographical limits of Europe, while Germany’s is Europe, you’ll all have a better picture/understanding of what has happened and what is happening.It’s only here, west of the Elbe, where the Eternal Anglo has accommodated and given the Eternal Teuton too much, that we have to listen to every 10th generation German-American go on truther podcasts and go, “I-It was da Jooooooos.” There isn’t a Slav in the world that doesn’t know that the Bolsheviks were German-funded by German bankers dressed up as Jews in the US, German-supplied through Germany’s oftentimes ally Finland and carrying German ideological AIDs thought up by a German agent and his German handler.
>>538191325I don't mind voluntary collectives. I object to state-enforced ones over and against existing individuals and their communities - particularly mine. Furthermore, populism has proven a joke as long as much as movementarianism has. Almost every leader has been a boob or a literal kike plant.
>>538192080> “I-It was da Jooooooos.”It was the jews. Only a jew says that stupid shit
>>538191537Betting on the rejects is why the NSM is such a dumpster-fire now.You can't point me in the direction of one credible NatSoc Movement.
>>538191791are you forgetting that Germany and USSR started the WWII together in September of 1939. Stalin had plans to attack Hitler around August 1941, but Hitler beat him to the punch and attacked at the end of June. WWII was unavoidable and would've started one way or another.
>>538176197according to some faggot in the "let's all just agree to not do violence" political party. you shut the fuck up
>>538191537The only ancients I recall hearing about remain active is the old veteran skinhead gangsters. Those true believers never had a problem with the new blood, so they didn't bother bowing out, unlike the others. I know a few of the others are still around but they are no longer active as they once were. Letting the new guys take over. the white gangs in quite the bind because the old glownigger methods against them are failing miserably. Kinda hard to dissuade the new guys when they see themselves as brownshirt thugs waiting and seeing themselves as new boots on the street for the cause. They know their duty and place. So yeah...oh man does that have them pissed but they are still trying to crackdown on it unlike with the militias where they flat out gave up entirely.How they think jailing white guys for petty shit and ruining their lives. Making it the only way to survive is a great idea, I don't understand. Honestly, they're doing more for recruitment than fucking /pol/ and Natsoc combined for those gangs. A lot of those white guys were normies until they discovered the reality of law enforcement and prison while being the most hated class for daring to be white and having a penis.>>538191973Don't forget insisting they are somehow all Germanboos and not knowing the difference between NSDAP and American Nazism. For fucks sake every /pol/ anon knows the difference because American anons won't shut up about it and even the German anons make it very clear what the distinction is. Back in the day, you also had other classifications that were commonly presented, but that isn't a thing anymore. Fuck now I'm missing those discussions in international relations and ethno natsoc diversity distinctions.
>>538192245>Germany and USSR Poland by genociding Germans & Russians on occupied German & Russian lands, FTFY Dirlewanger & Kaminsky did nothing wrong, LITERALLY
>>538185544checkin em
>>538191578I'm OK with secession on principle. I get heavily offended when people talk about giving the Deep South to niggers, fuck that. This is my home. I have always been in the SouthNat wing of White Power, one way or another. I can remember when people really started to hate us and turned on us. Overtime that gay shit stopped but it was a rough time to be a Pro-White Neo-Confederate.My fervent wish would be a Dixian Awakening and bring back home all the Diaspora'd Southerners to reclaim our birthright.I'll admit I don't mind your idea, my question would only be voter enfranchisement. I'd be totally fine with heading back towards a Confederacy.
>>538174912>was the last hopedemoralization threadare you alive? then there is hope.
>>538191726Yeah sure, there was just never an economy before international jewish finance here.Fuck off, seriously. If you don't think people here know we have to reorganize the economy you're stupid. Go to one of your red light districts full of little girls in maid outfits you sick fuck.
>>538192245>WWII was unavoidableYes, I don't think that could've been avoided either way simply because of the commies.But let's imagine for a second that Germany took a more defensive approach to it all and hunkered down (If possible)Maybe I'm naive and gullible, but I'm sure that Germany wouldn't have been painted as the ultimate aggressor in this scenario of mine, and perhaps would become an inspiration for others eventually.
>>538192396Which "russian lands" did Poland occupy in the 20th century?
>>538191973I've met Burt personally. After I found out what he was and members of Creativity and such put me on point I told him I was gonna cave his stupid head in if I wasn't affiliated and I saw him again during Street Action. He's a disgrace and you should agree to that, too.I also don't care about your silly little purity-spiralling over terms. I use, "Neo-Nazism," to refer to any Nazism that isn't German after 1945 that has no continuity with the original NSDAP. It's a necessary distinction to me. At least the original Nazis for a little while got somewhere. Neo-Nazis can't even take over a bar.
>>538192134>In order to inflict a healthy society upon to others I must disobey the law and lie and manipulate people I inherently believe to be underneath me in every aspect.Is this a manuscript on Judaism?
>>538192608>Which "russian lands" did Poland occupy in the 20th century?i just replied you with the ethnical map of Poland in 1934 -- Galizia, Subcarpathia, Podlasie, Red Ruthenia/Russia are the lands that they occupied from us
>>538192080Based take.Yeah everyone just kind of forgets what Germany was up to in the 19th and 20th century. There's a reason no one felt bad for them by 1945.
>>538191640The Republic was dead on the conclusion of the civil war.>>538191785>Where I have always balked and will continue to is their vociferous hatred of all things America.The scope of that perspective is wider than just America. We are the tribes of Europe. America is just one chapter in that book. From the perspective of Germanic stock, who have been exemplary citizens of this country and among the most industrious lineages and earnest contributors at making this American experiment work, despite its rotten history with Germans, it would be very easy to have contempt for what America did.If you were not German you wouldn't understand. The America we tried to build with Anglo-Saxons hasn't been an easy toil, and we know the politicians were never krauts, the anti-Germanness of America is difficult to overstate. It is not talked about, the Germans do not talk about it amongst themselves even. They do not want their kids to know because it will only breed resentment. They assimilated and tried to do better, and don't understand that this anti-white agenda is largely directed at them, and the Anglo-Saxons do nothing but talk about their civil liberties and sniff eachothers farts. This country feels like a massive betrayal of Germans. You are merely getting a glimpse of that frustration.
>>538192354Sometimes I think we give the glowniggers too much credit. 10-15 years ago it was more believable to me, they'd threaten and mock oldfags with claims about elaborate surveillance state technology that would crack down on all white nationalists, how they'd use their power in tech companies to wipe out NS from the internet. And they tried. I think they gave up on the old strategy when China got involved and started circulating /pol/ content on tiktok. Thats when the old containment demoralization/D&C strategy changed to distract and dilute. God I miss old /nsg/ threads. Theyre still up from time to time but it used to be an institution, with autists from every field and shills that were actually good. Fuck man. Good times.
>>538192080>>538192813See? Do you see what a faggot you really are?
