>Odysseus is constantly crying>not just 'he wept' but 'he cried howling like a woman cries'>his men shred tears for their lost brothers>he walks into taverns, hears a song about himself, breaks down crying, repeatedly >the one time he holds back tears is when his dog recognises him and then drops dead on the spot These were not what we recognise as stoics by todays standards. Most men of today would call Odysseus a coward and a faggot. And they would call his men faggots. Even if we accept that homer overused 'wept' as a descriptor we still have long descriptions of crying that would make men of today uncomfortable. The amount of emotion they display in scene where after 20 years Odysseus reunites with his son comes off as strange even to me, by today's standards of how men behave.How the fuck did men get so mind broken? If this is stoicism then we aren't stoics. We are emotionally dead. I wonder that if by discussing their losses openly with each other and crying it stopped them from getting brain fucked by ptsd and other shit.
The 1800s was when men became truly insecure about feelings. Its when the idea of being "homosexual" first was penned. Before then, you had to fuck a dude to be a sodomite. After, all you need is the wrong feelings
