The word "rent" didn't even exist. You were entitled to a house of your own the moment you set foot at work
>>538189336>You were entitled to a house of your own the moment you set foot at workThat's bullshit.t. lived under communism
>>538189336It wasn't. They always operated their housing industry at a MASSIVE loss. It was devastating for their economy.
1 race kingdoms just let peasants build cabins n sheds galore.1 day work week
>>538189336>>538189336>You were entitled to a house of your own the moment you set foot at workit took a while for you get your "own" flat, there was significant amount of corruption and favoritism. The reason commies were able to solve housing crisis is the same reason a lot of people DISPISE commies, without really understanding anything. Mass produced flats. Btw, imo there is nothing wrong with mass produced flats, while i dislike flats, its still a place for people to live on their own and commies are not the only ones who do flats, everyone does, commies specifically soviet, simply prioritized functionality. Soviet flats will be better in quality than modern flats btw, but modern ones will have colorful exterior.Somehow also everyone just decided to abandon soviet flats, treating them as something granted and if it doesnt withstand 70 years in perfect condition on its own that means SUBHUMANS BUILT IT
>>538189925and king dideven betterpeople not jammed togetherjust let peasants make cabins n sheds unlimited
>>538189336>enjoy "your" 1 room flat you will have to share with your woman and kids
>>538189925hey i like you you’re one of the good ones
>>538190419is this corruption?
>>538189336You just build houses on mass for the people and you don't allow Jews to buy up all the houses and artificially jack up yhe prices
>>538189743I've lived in two commie era apartments in Bulgaria and the floor plans were so well-lit and spacious, if they were located in a major American city they'd be worth a million dollars
>>538190647>they were located in a major American city they'd be worth a million dollarsBecause of the desirability of the American city.
>>538189336>Why was it so easy for Communists to solve the housing crisis?They actually didn't. They were never able to construct enough so there always was multiple people/families living in one apartment.
>>538189772>massive lossDid they lack building materials in the bloc? Like, I'm confused. If the State is building the houses -- meaning the State is paying for the materials, paying for the workers, etc. -- and the State MUST create/issue money at origin for money to exist at all ... then how could it possibly "operate a MASSIVE loss"?Governments aren't households or businesses. They don't need to acquire deposits in order to spend. They create deposits just by spending their money unit into existence.At least say something that makes sense -- like, they didn't have the real resources to meet actual demand. That's believable.
>>538189772DEVASTATING for the GDP
>>538190705yeah I know, my point is that American units of comparable size tend to have a shittier layout. In Bulgaria the living room, kitchen, and bedroom are usually 3 separate rooms connected by a hallway, whereas in an American 1-bed the living room + kitchen are undivided and you access the bedroom directly from the living room. So much more privacy in the former, not to mention they frequently have solariums (balconies enclosed in glass)
>>538190705No one 'desires' to live in detroit or san franshitto you retarded boomer goon.
>>538191093money is printedgov spends way more than tax money takenwake up stupidjews print money from thin air nonstop
>>538189336When the state can just build more housing instead of having to worry about devaluing rich faggots investments then it makes the solution very easy.
There are videos that explain it better, but essentially you were assigned a place to live and you couldn't leave or move without permission. An entire underground black market emerged just to help people move to different places. Nomenklatura and those with connections could live wherever they wanted of course.Also homelessness was a crime kek.
>>538191169Bulgarians live in concrete boxes inside massive concrete boxes surrounded by thousands of concrete boxes. Everything in the country is made from crumbling concrete
>>538189336You had no choice on the matter of where you lived or even whom you lived with.
>>538190802they significantly improved housing conditions for millions working double time before it stopped for what we have today so um yeah wish they weren’t hippies unlike warmongering you
>>538189336>You were entitled to a house of your own the moment you set foot at work>in the gulags 18,000,000 people passed through the Gulag's camps[ 53 Gulag camp directorates (colloquially referred to as simply "camps") and 423 labor colonies in the Soviet Union as of March 1940 The tentative consensus in contemporary Soviet historiography is that roughly 1,600,000 died due to detention in the camps.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
anything is better than capitalism when u have white menwhite kingdoms had peasants with 1 day workweek and could make as many cabins n sheds as felt like
>>538189336It wasn't easy, retard. Tiny and apartments that people had to spend decades working their asses of to get.And as you can see on the pic, everything there was shit.
>>538191291yeah but that comes with significant advantage. housing was given by the state not on the market. maximum efficiency
in Cuba doctors visit you at home every two weeks, it costs nothing.
>>538189336Everyone got a place to live, a job, an assignment, an education. Antisocials were put in labor camps. It just worked
>>538189336Are we really having this thread again? About 1 in 6 people were still on the waitlist for an apartment when the USSR collapsed. They did NOT solve the housing crisis.
>>538189336They didnt solve it.Soviet housing was notoriously shit.
>>538189772The Soviet model is having housing needs met by a central plan. You can't just... build homes when people need a place to live. That's unsustainable. You HAVE to milk them with unfavorable cookie cutter financing terms while you make a fortune on the back end with esoteric credit trading bullshit
>>538191093When the state prints money to cover debts it drives inflation making everything else unaffordable.You push down the price of housing it pushes up the price of everything else essentially.
>>538191608In Cuba you starve to death with dysentery because you didn't pay the free doctor a bribe equal to your annual wage
>>538191646but they could theoretically solve it
>>538191722You mean like how they theoretically could have built a communist utopia? The population was constantly growing and the only way they would have caught up with demand is by experiencing a demographic crisis. Keep in mind that the 1 in 6 figure is across the entire USSR. In major cities with many working class families, about half did not have their own apartment.
>>538189336Honestly its because they didnt have to deal with Blacks. The USA built huge apartment complexes in the 50's-late 60's. After desegregation was passed the Whites all fled the housing projects, this meant it was all blacks there almost. They went out of their way to destroy the buildings. They broke and vandalized everything they could, so they started tearing them down because they were uninhabitable after like 20 years. Pruitt Igoe homes were the famous ones that only last 20 years, 10 years after segregation ended they were torn down, Cabrini Green and the Robert Taylor homes were also torn down because of blacks destroying them and or turning them into crime ridden hellholes. So we have tried commie blocks but the blacks destroy them and or make them so unsafe police cant even go there. Its a real shame how much taxpayer money have been wasted on those worthless sacks of shit, but thats the reality of the USA, and our eternal burden.
>>538191254That's practically everyone who lives in a city.
>>538191814this isn’t unique to communist systems the only difference being how shortage is rationedalso utopia? no no probably not that good
>>538192215Bugman life
nobody is claiming the ussr was utopia
>>538192375The thing I dont like about the USSR commie blovks was having to share a restroom and Kitchen with the entire floor.
>>538191535If it was such an advantage then why did the nomenklatura have private condos and villas?
name a bigger downgrade for people than the counter revolution. i’ll wait.
https://www.redfin.com/FL/Captiva/15009-Binder-Dr-33924/home/61811515This would be a good rental for crackhead niggers.
>>538189772>They always operated their housing industry at a MASSIVE lossWhat if i told you that housing industry, railways transport, public transport, waterworks and to some extent electricity gridARE DESIGNED TO BE RUN AT THE LOSS FOR AFFORDABILITY OF NECESSARY SERVICESWhat lacks is covered from taxpayers and thats thatBut no the eternal "whats in for me" amerimuttjew cannot compute that even if you fuck him in the ass with it
>>538192428Plus they didnt have thermostats for each apartment, the temperature was set at whatever the main central thermostat for all the buildings was set at.
>>538191169>kitchen are undivided Fuck whoever came up with that "open concept" shit. I lived in this apartment from the 50s that had a long galley style kitchen which was the best thing about it. After I moved out I heard that the first thing the new faggot landlord did was modernize everything good about the building including knocking down the kitchen walls
>>538192543Private A/C is counter revolutionary.
>>538192574so they did have air conditioning
>>538192543so they had air conditioning
>>538192630>>538192779nvm
>>538192572Landlords are always retards. My old internet was hard capped because my guinea landlord didn't want any companies drilling into his building. Thanks for the slow as fuck internet, Phil, you big greasy gay wop bitch.
>>538193011Buy your own house crybaby
>>538193047Nigger have you been on zillow lately?I just looked at the listing for a trailer and those faggots expect someone to pay $450 a month in HOA fees. For a fucking TRAILER.
>>538191093>>538191159>>538191169>>538191702Are you guys retarded? The Soviets had to make money to pay workers who built houses, so they always lost money on their housing industry. TLDR for retards. >Lose money paying people to build and maintain houses>Less money for other things>This is especially bad when you're communist and only you (the state) can invest in industries and technologies>>538191195We have the most desirable cities in the world. That's why they're the most expensive. At least NYC, LA, and SF
>>538193209>waaaaaah i deserve everything free because im a rentoidYou have plenty of time to cry here you can get another job
>>538190802>always was multiple people/families living in one apartment.I was going to say this. Communal housing was common into the 1970s, with multiple families living together in the same residence.This happened in Britain too after the war, but had largely ended by 1950s, because lots of new houses and apartments were built in that era.It went on much longer in USSR.
>>538193312At least I don't spend all of my free time shitposting in between sucking dicks like you, faggot.
>>538193223Your bait is tiresome so I'm going to filter you, no one cares about GDP here.
>>538193856You spend your free time when you are not waging for the Land Lord crying about the Land Lord,,,,,,buy a house loser
>>538189336many of those apartments are/were part of the work facility. You just lived at the work housing. Sounds awesome. Move to China.
>>538189336>Why was it so easy for Communists to solve the housing crisis?The Soviets had multiple families stacked up in single family homes for decades. They'd have to hot bunk it, timeshare the fucking kitchens and bathrooms. It was the sort of epic dumpsterfire that only leftoids could ever get excited about.
>>538189772>>538191702Wholly crap.In reality though . boomers in US prevent you from building where you want , it's called ZONING. Soviet Union didn't have this boomer zoning problem.
>>538189336https://youtu.be/g-2Didi1bnk?si=o-iSNej0PwrWlvh-
>>538189336>Why was it so easy for Communists to solve the housing crisis?They built cheap commie blocks that were easy to keep warm. >You were entitled to a house of your own the moment you set foot at work Not like that, but yeah. It was fairly easy, if you wanted to work and weren't a slacker.
>>538194309>waaaaaah im a loser because of my mommy and daddy waaaaaah
>>538189925>corruption>soviets>subhumanThis isn't a russian. American or hohol jew. Someone brainwashed with american propaganda who has no clue.
>>538194456Wholly crap, idiot can't handle the truth so badly , he has to hide his IP.
>>538194528Wholly crap, idiot can't handle the truth so badly , he has to show his jew flag and cry about old people
>>538189336But you have to work, this scare the jews
The real question is why are there still people retarded enough to fall for communist propaganda?
In USA, random boomers can randomly vote against building multi-unit apartments . Some random boomers and some random zoning laws and zoning meetings can prevent someone from building multi-unit apartments. In Soviet Union , a boomer like that would be sent to jail for 20 years, siberian vacation. >or walked outside and shot.>I am joking of course. So no random boomer would prevent multi-unit apartments in SU because fck all of you, like it is happening in USA.
>>538194668Wholly crap, idiot can't handle the truth so badly , he has to hide his jew flag and cry about old people. Reality is over here, retard: >>538194914
>>538194785Communism appeals to dysgenic freaks like browns and white incels
>>538194785Contrarians who have some weird ideological hangup about utopias mixed with an obsession with worshipping "the bad guys"
>>538194986Communism doesn't exist , Idiot. It's a fake UTOPIA created by rich german, Karl Marx, for british mi6 glowies when he lived in London. Soviet Union had Socialism. >Publication place United Kingdomhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto
>>538195069Your country is a commie shithole
>>538190124>still better than no flat at all and a woman you share with half of the cityDon't get me wrong, communism sucked in a million other ways, just not this one.
>>538189336>solved the housing crisis I am not surprised at all that you don't know how this fundamentally fucked NYC's economy. But you keep right on cheering for all the apartments this won't create.
>>538190802They kinda did actually. Dead people don't require housing.
>>538191717>it drives inflationThe State HAS to create money. It can't come from anywhere else! It's always a "debt"! Even when private banks are creating loans as deposits, they can only do it through their government granted charter.Inflation is determined by money compared to available goods and services.
>>538193223>Are you guys retarded? The Soviets had to make money to pay workers who built houses, so they always lost money on their housing industry.The Soviets were the government. Governments don't need to "make" money. They simply spend it into existence and then they have money. Is this confusing?Like, who would the government need to earn money from? How did that person get the money first?
>>538189336when a fuckton of people are in gulags and everyones house is a one room in commieblock, it's easy to "solve" the crisisi will stick with my full house with front and back garden thank you. come and take it.
