There's a clear path forward from this. Based Catholicism now can fully depart from the faggotry that is Post-Vatican II Rome.But I'm gonna suggest this isn't far enough.Look, most of the TradCats in the world are White. Go to any TLM Parish or community - SSPX, CMRI, ICKSP, whatever - I don't care. It's always majority White. To top it off, the biggest share of financial and social support for the Tradosphere has always been White Americans and it's not even close. In fact, ironically, it's predominantly WASP Converts who left Protestantism and what Zio-Boomer Jewvangelicalism did to it.But I think all the TradCats can see now that Romanism isn't the 40k Religion they thought it was. You're not getting a, "Based," Pope in our lifetime. That's why the SSPX said, "fuck it we ball," and went ahead with the consecrations today - in Switzerland, no less; providential and I'll say why.We need Reformed, High Church American Protestantism again. We need Episcopalianism to make a combat - better than that, we need all the historic American Protestantisms to come back. Presbyterianism, Wesleyanism, all of it. It's all got together.The SSPX is the perfect place to do it. None of the guys in the pews actually give a fuck about Mariology or Thomism, they just adopt it to counter-signal people they hate. A stable spiritual center this does not make. BUT if we can create a Reformed American Episcopal Church, everyone gets what they want:>biblical theology>a rich heritage and christian patrimony>high church liturgy and spirituality>no more globohomo universalist churches importing six billion migrants>no more synods that churn out constant white guilt declarationsAll the Based White Americans in one church focused on restoring American morality, racial consciousness, patriarchy and Republican virtues is exactly what we need to re-invigorate the movement.>WAAAAAH KIKE ON A STICK WAAAAAHShut up faggot. Christianity is Whiteness. That's why browns and jews seethe.
>>538200880>Based Catholicismsspx is nothing more than spicy protestantism now. a slightly less-cucked anglican
>but OP you retard they're traditionalist catholics, why would they want to be protestants?Because their blood calls them to it. That's why they can't submit to a magisterial theology that says>catholicism is what we say it is because pope said soAll of these guys became Catholic either to counter-signal leftoids or after intense interior theological study. Then they found out that the mainstream church isn't selling that.My brother in Christ, you never stopped being a Protestant and you found out why your ancestors left Rome and you're the first one to go back in 500 years. You're only Catholic because Historic, Systematic Protestantism is a fucking dumpster fire right now. If Protestantism hadn't become kike dick-sucking you wouldn't be Catholic at all. If we still had beautiful churches, reverent and serious liturgies, systematic theologies, had a patriotism that wasn't cringe Walmart Slop and was Pro-White like it had been for most of history you wouldn't be Catholic at all, simple as.
>>538200943That's what I'm saying. Let's go all the way and just make Reformed American Episcopalianism. Let's struggle session out the theology with the other Based Christian Churches and get a sound Reformed theology together and stand as one to defend White, Christian, Historic America.The movement needs a coherent ideological-spiritual center that isn't some anachronistic LARP but actually resonates in our blood. We can make it happen.
>>538200880>SSPX SchismAdherents of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) make up approximately 0.04% of the global Catholic population. The Catholic Church currently counts about 1.4 billion members worldwide. In contrast, the SSPX estimates its worldwide following of lay adherents at roughly 600,000.
This is me interrupting the slide threads to actually have a productive conversation.
>>538201225Most of those are also White and American and many, many Catholics support the SSPX even if they cannot attend a mass near them or aren't lay adherent.I'm telling you, this is an idea with teeth.
>>538201119I agree with almost everything you say. But I'd remain Catholic regardless. The damage from Vatican II is slowly being undone, sspx is just becoming protestant because they aren't instantly getting everything they want from a new pope who, himself, has done the TLM. Nothing is going to change my acknowledging the eucharist as the body and blood of Christ. Nothing is going to change my honoring Mary as Theotokos. Nothing is going to ever make me think that women can be priests or pastors. Nothing is ever going to make me think homosexuality or sexually aberrent behavior is OK. Nothing is ever going to make me think abortions are OK. Nothing is going to make me want to not talk to Saints who are more alive than I am. Nothing is going to make me. I'm Catholic. Simple as. I'm 100% with you on needing to take back the US from the kikeslop it's turned into and I'll work with you toward that but nothing is going to make me not Catholic.
>>538201236What about abandoning Saint Thomas Aquinas?
>>538200880The SSPX are protestants, simple as. They're rejecting the Pope and Magisterium in favour of personal interpretation.The exact same pride and actions of Martin Luther.
Far too much bureaucracy. Catholic Church adheres most to beauty.
>>538201381Both the SSPX and the Vatican II church are Protestants
>>538201279>The damage from Vatican II is slowly being undoneIf you believe that you're coping which is a common thing TradCats do who aren't outright sedes already.>sspx is just becoming protestant because they aren't instantly getting everything they want from a new pope who, himself, has done the TLM.Francis also did the TLM. What's your point? We've been waiting sixty years for the ship to right. It's not gonna happen.>Nothing is going to change my acknowledging the eucharist as the body and blood of Christ.Most historic Protestant theologies also believed this.>Nothing is going to change my honoring Mary as TheotokosMost historic Protestantism wouldn't deny this either, just some of the Marian Cult stuff.>Nothing is going to ever make me think that women can be priests or pastors.You don't think Reformed Protestantism supports this, do you?>Nothing is ever going to make me think homosexuality or sexually aberrent behavior is OK.Or this?>Nothing is ever going to make me think abortions are OK.Again, tell me you don't think Reformed Protestantism believes this. I think you've got us confused with someone else.>Nothing is going to make me want to not talk to Saints who are more alive than I am.There are plenty of American Divines and Saints we can focus on and not a church rapidly canonizing everyone a colonial government ever killed to make you feel bad.>I'm Catholic. Simple as. I'm 100% with you on needing to take back the US from the kikeslop it's turned into and I'll work with you toward that but nothing is going to make me not Catholic.If you're the same kind of Catholic as Charles Carrol you might be allowed to stick around.
>>538201298Plenty of Reformed thinkers still referred to Thomas' teachings. PicRel even cited Gregory the Great a lot.
>>538201381>LutherWas a Based expression of the Nordic spirit against Mediterranean decadence in his day who with his reason and logic destroyed the tyranny of Universalist Rome.
>>538201466It's a complete falsehood that Protestantism doesn't have beautiful churches.
Wew lad, those slide threads are busy tonight!
