Here's the 200$ million dollar bill, sar
i mean im not paying and i assume they budget for that so whats the problem here
>>538203477>AI tokensI'll be honest, I genuinely have no idea what those are.
>>538203477this is why you can't afford hardware
>>538203526its electricity spent by the llm to generate an answer. Quitr vain and silly really, shows you why humans should not play god.
How many more "tokens" do you need before your realise that (((AI))) doesn't do the work you want it to do?
>>538203526Its like Showbiz Pizza where you have to exchange your quarters for tokens which are accepted by all the games
>>538203477Seems irresponsible. Meanwhile all Meta services and apps have either gotten worse or shutdown.
These fucktard ponzi scheme abominable intelligence snake oil meme salesmen are going to be begging for taxpayer back bailouts soon.They need to be denied. They made everything electronic fucktons more expensive, they made power and water more expensive, they flooded the internet with meaningless garbage, of course they'll have the gall to beg for a bailout next. These fucking bastards are living parodies of themselves.
>>538203477 Acts like cant just sell the user inputs to the gov or other interest groups and recoup the whole amount or most of it. Then ask for gov subsidies that exist only for these mega-corps to make up the rest.
>>538203477Still less than what they were paying overcompensated techbros
>>538203526You could just look it the fuck up then. Why haven't you? Why display your stupidity like this? Does annoying strangers online do something for you? Does it make your penis tingle?
lol
>>538203522>i assume they budget for thatThey have been giving employees free rein, expecting efficiency increases proportional to tokens spent. Now the execs are noticing that it doesn't work that way, a good number of companies are considering limiting ai usage.
>>538203477I don't understand what the use is for. What the hell is the end product besides muh goycode?
>>538203679When I want your opinion, ill give it to you.
>>538203719>efficiency increasesI what? Facebook is already there why do they need so much jeet coders?
>>538203759Dunno, still trying to invent new stuff I guess. Remember zuck's metaverse was a thing facebook poured billions of dollars into before axing it.
>>538203816Invent what exactly? It's already a fake economy and now they just added ai on top. It's all bs.
I do believe this is part of how they keep money circulating between the 5 Big Tech companies in the AI bubble.>oopsie whoopsie I accidentally used 100 millionty dollars worth of Claude tokens in a single night!Yeah nah this is how those scamming AI fucks keep pretending AI is profitable and not just a massive con
>>538203562Is tortse like goatse but for turtles?
>>538203853>Invent what exactly?Ask facebook directly, I'm not privy to their internal r&d.
I use a few million tokens* a day. The rally amazing thing here is that with all the skill, experience, and computer hardware infrastructure that Meta has, they're paying other companies to use their AI models instead of running their own. They're basically burning $2.5 billion/year of Zucc's money to humiliate themselves for being unable to capitalize on their own innovations. They hav made some very good AI tools of their own, but they're so narrow in scope (eg object separation in audio streams and photographs) that they don't have any relevance to the core business of Facebook/Instagram. They have all the technology and infrastructure such that they successfully mindrape about 1/10th of humanity every day but haven't figured out what do with that excpt sell more advertising.* a token is a unique word, syllable, or punctuation mark that the LLM can use to break down a sentence or line of computer code. No matter how long your chit-chats with an AI you'll rarely go byond a few tens of thousands of tokens, but once you get into coding you can be showing around 50 or 100k tokens on every query. In the US 100k tokns costs about $10-20 depending on which model you're using. Chinesium is way cheaper if you know what you're doing but you have to know what you're doing and not give a shit about whether the commies are snooping on your shitty little programming projects. Obviously for a big corporation like Zuck's they would actually be interested.
>>538203679You could've just told him what it was in less words than this seething reply.
>>538203853Facebook was fake from the start, it was founded the same day the darpa lifelog project was shut downThe economy is being strangled by jews and glowniggers
>>538203606That's exactly what it is.>pay me to draw something, make a movie, answer a question, play a game, drive a car, etcA jack of all trades, master at a select few MAYBE.It's really not that impressive when you think about it, like you're just paying a digital butler to do half-assed shit for you because you're a lazy oaf.
>>5382035261 token = 1 word in the AI answer.15 tokens etc = 1 sentence.My PC can run LLM at speed 20 tokens/sec so its faster than i can read.
>>538203526Digital foreskins.
A software dev costs like $200k/year. Even if your average team size if just 5 devs AI is way fucking cheaper.
>>538203477So, using Jeets for coding is still more profitable>>538203526goybucks but for AI models
>>538204092>A jack of all trades, master at a select few MAYBE.no, not at all. actually indian doesn't create anything and has no capacity for logic, reason, anything. It is a chatbot at best and a warehouse of indians at worst.
>>538203995>make first real social media>but have to serve it over competitors marketplaces>ai comes around>go all in because you don't want to be dependent on your rivals this time around>zuck the cuck
>>538203477Zuck also somehow wasted 40b on metaverse with nothing to show for it. Money is fake as hell 40b would buy you a shiny new fab or a nuclear power plant. 2b buys you a gen 5 nuclear research plant. Its all fucking fake.
>>538203700>TokenmaxxingNAH
>>538203526It's an arbitrarily defined metric of "processing power" that has no real exact definition, it's not like a real measurement or anything.The actual important thing is the cost of the tokens, the "tokens" themselves have no real meaning or value.
>>538204157It's not indians, it's just how Western elites plan to replace their foreign workforce with an even cheaper but not as shitty option to indians and modern university grads(marxist retards, tranny freaks, and women) and other migrant groups because they're a massive liability. You're going to see Western nations decrease and remigrate foreigners a lot, because the systems can't work with them around and everyone in power is hemorrhaging cash and value. The AI is a much better replacement for lower birthrates than people you can barely control and who can't even speak English. WAY cheaper. Way more efficient. Can work around the clock with no benefits needed and no payroll taxes to deal with. A lot of very powerful people are realizing they made a terrible mistake.The migrants are not needed anymore.
>>538204424carbon offset pt.2just like before you're not even paying for the actual computation or output.>>538204471AI = Actually IndianIt was a joke ranjesh, die alongside your masters.
>>538203526a serious of tubes
>>538203722>Besides muh goycodeIs there anything else? This is what a technology sector is now - no innovation, pure goycode.They haven't been dealing in hardware for decades.You could just outright get rid of 90% of their staff and it would make no difference - for example twitter - you remember the libtard seethe about this right?>Fire 50% of the workforce suddenly>Fire half of those that remain after>Only rehire a few that were necessary>Twitter shits the bed for a couple months and then is back to normal>Actually runs BETTER now than it used to, has new features evenThey cut their staff by 2/3rds and it made literally no effect after a quick transition period. Basically all big tech could do the same.
>>538203700KekI can relate: my manager told me very directly that good employees use AI a lot
>>538203477So is this money counted in before the value of a printed dollar or after the value of a printed dollar?
Most software engineers are insanely overpaid in the us. This should help even the playing field.
>>538204147AI can only replace junior devs (for now)And just like a junior dev, it needs to be supervised by senior devs to make sure it does its job
> 200 dollar million dollar
Indians are literal script kiddies from the 90s essentially they know literally nothing about what they are doing. They are why everything sucks from your phone to your laptop to the Internet and world wide web itself. We are going to lose this technology because white people can't get a leg in the door anymore.
>>5382035261 syllable is about 1 token.73.7 trillion tokens...just replace that with syllabes...
>>538203526It's a proxy for electricity costs. Say a datacentre consumes 40MW. Then a single second of work will consume about 10kWh (about $1.70). Tech companies calculate your usage based on tokens, which is an a measure of work done by the computer. I'm guessing it somehow translates to fractions of a second of processing power, which they'd then multiply by $1.70 per second? That's my guess anyway.
>>538203939Yes
>>538204147The difference is that the devs build what you want and understand what they're doing, unlike llm
>>538203995>In the US 100k tokns costs about $10-20 depending on which model you're usingI think that is too high. More like about $10-20 per One Million Tokens. See what tokens can do for America at https://write.as/q1jc2dzd56xhp.md
>>538204985I blaze through like $200 a day anonymously without signing in. Just completely useless shit too. They get creative about blocking me out
>>538204096>My PC can run LLM at speed 20 tokens/sec so its faster than i can read.Which, is not really fast enough for VIBE CODING, because you do not immediately read the code, you only copy-paste to watch and see what it does.
>>538203719The real advance the AI gave us is deep insight into human nature. Even smart and educated (white) people who are competent at what they do, hate thinking hard, hate having to solve problems, and hate working.
>>538203526It's like miles per gallon, but for the digital global gulag system.
>>538205117>I blaze through like $200 a day anonymously without signing in.What model, what URL?
>>538203700I work in biotech and something similar happened here, a year ago it was about expectations that everyone use AI, now we get advance notices about which type of AI to use and when so to minimize costs
>>538203853>It's already a fake economy and now they just added ai on top. It's all bs.It's E = mc2 + AI, it's the future you have to think bigger
How long will it take before they realize the AI actually costs exponentially more over time in power, hardware and maintenance than just getting a human to do the job? Probably not until the AI companies raise prices 2000% and it's too late to let it go. Holy fuck are we fucked
>>538205490That’s why they are desperately cannibalizing their companies and shoving the money into data center construction.
>>538203853I tried it, well you got a android interface and some 3d hideous world around youVoila, for the funny thing like games you need to pay
>>538204172>>538204273AccurateI don't think Zuckerberg really likes technology for its own sake, he doesn't seem to have any vision. My impression is that his favorite software is Excel or whatever he uses to manage his portfolio.>>538205111Shoot yourself you absolute mong
>>538204096I can literally read 1,000 words a minute. I'm faster than a computer and I've never trained for it. They should give me a billion dollars
>>538203477AI doesn't exist, this is literally an insanely expensive slop chatbotOH NO IT WILL END THE WORLD, HEEEEEELP
>>538204985This is not true at all. Just google it instead of making shit up. Tokens roughly correspond to the number of words the model processes. You’re literally paying per word.
>>538205361>when so to minimize costsDoes that ever happen though?
>>538203606hello me
>>538203477Now, let me see those returns for all that wattage
>>538205932Line will go UP in two more weeks.
>>538203562No, THIS is why you can't afford hardware:
>>538203562And also this:
>>538203477ok, so facebook is better now or something?
>>538203700>gamify productivity>it failsclassic
>>538203526It's basically Paddy Dollars.They hope you buy the Paddy Dollars with real money so that you can get digital booze at the digital bar.But if you don't want to spend real money it's okay, you only get a certain amount of Paddy Dollars though. When people stop consooming your digital booze, you just give more free Paddy Dollars to the cheapskates, freeloaders and leeches to make sure they keep using your product hoping they will buy more Paddy Dollars.
>>538204676To do what exactly?
>>538205117What you seem to be needing, anon, is an AI-agent that creates entirely useless prompts to automatically feed into AI This way you could be far more productive in your endeavor to enshittify your enshittification.
>>538203995Nigger you stupid. That whole "expense" is a giant tax write off. It's opex. This is the new tech company tax evasion scheme.
>>538206231To codeAdmittedly it's great for rectoring and writing tests, but I often feel it would be faster to write the code myself without Claude
>>538206581And your boss will shit on you if you don't use claude to vide code?Do you think your company will ever realize it's a meme?
>>538203853They use the unrestricted turbo AI to run simulations on how to control people and dominate the world
>>538203477how many gallons of water is this?
>>538206581> faster to write the code myself without ClaudeYou are literally enshittifying and dumbing down your brilliant mind by even using this stuff.I work in M&A have allowed myself to use it more and more to improve email quality and write more efficient summaries of due diligence. I've been doing this for like a year, and I am at a point where I don't feel like writing the most simple e-mail structures anymore, or reading through 12 pages of a simple annual report.https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872> The LLM undeniably reduced the friction involved in answering participants' questions compared to the Search Engine. However, this convenience came at a cognitive cost, diminishing users' inclination to critically evaluate the LLM's output or 'opinions' (probabilistic answers based on the training datasets).We are so cooked. Some people won't find jobs due to AI and those that do have jobs but need to use AI are going to mentally deteriorate within a few years.
>>538206910Depends on whether it's a closed-loop cooling system or just pulls water out of the aquifers and steams them into the atmosphere.
>>538206334Shhh! Don't tell them. Let the lying sheep sleep.
>>538206581If you're dealing with any large codebase it's going to fuck up enough, or force you to put enought thought into the prompt that you might as well just do it manually.At least that's my experience.
>>538204092A jack of all trades, master of slop.They turn everything into slop regardless of subject
>>538203526Their attempt at monetizing AI. Basically 1 prompt= 1 Token. In coding telling AI to do something might easily consume hundreds of tokens in 15 minutes.
>>538203581it does, but not very well and it costs more than the hoomans it replaces
This is why any politician who tries to subsidize data centers should be voted out. It’s literally anti white corporate welfare
>>538206911As our cognitive abilities evolved our physical abilities deteriorated. Will we return to monke now or just evolve to slimey medusas in jars interconnected in the matrix?
>>538203719They are training the AI off the employees using it, you spastic. This is spending money, so they can lay them off later and save a shit load of money long term.Fucking goyim don't even understand long term strategy.
>>538205986Kek, even better than the one I have
>>538207014>1 prompt= 1 TokenThat's wrong. Prompts are broken down by ai into logic units the ai needs to understand what's being asked. Each logic unit is 1 token. Could be whole words, part of a word, single punctuation signs, etc.
>>538207155with yours, I am not certain if it's AI retardation or kike propaganda
>>538203477>ValuetainmentStopped reading right there. Patrick Bet David (PBD) is a con-man who ran a pyramid scam company in Asia, and stole/scammed a lot of money out of a lot of people. Absolute dirt bag, I have no interest in hearing anything he has to say.
>>538207252
>>538207014This is not correct anon. For example, the previous sentence is 7 tokens - 5 words, correct is 2 tokens because are several other words that start with corr-, plus a period marker. Most AI billing is priced per million tokens. Often the chatbot window is free because it's low volume, but as you say coding tasks just burn through that stuff. I commonly use 100k tokens in th first 3-4 hours of a new programming project.Also this fucking pricing, lmao at codexfaggots
>>538203759>>538203816Invent new stuff? No. They need to control algorithms to prevent the wrong type of information becoming wide spread, then they need to poison the well of any solid information that gets in their way. None of is about profits, or innovation. It's why they have to hire the most corrupt scumbag ethnicity of scamming liars to do it. Whites will blow the whistle. Same tactic used in stolen elections. It was all NIGGERS doing the counting of mail-ins, and harassing/intimidating poll watchers
>>538205986Thats a good example of why AI can't really do animation either besides the most absolute braindead inbetweens that require no thinking. Rookie inbetweeners make similar mistakes when they just blindly copy what they see without using their brain.
>>538203581Oh but it's already doing everything I wanted it to do, which is creating hentai pics of niche anime girls that nobody bothered to make content for.
>>538203477
>>538207205>>538207310>100k tokens in 4 hours.Wait so the pricing is even worse than I thought? Jesus christ.
>>538203575>its electricity spent by the llm to generate an answerhow is this different from bitcoin mining
>>538207307top kek
>>538203526>want to have a turn at the arcade>have to put change into the machine
>>538203477>"lol ai isn't making any money!">this is like the second major contradiction i've seen anti-AI people makefirst one went>"ai is slop and will never replace us humans!">"ai is going to replace us all! help! regulations now!!"
>>538207541Die jeet
>>538207407This entire thing feels like a private sector example of money printing (even though obviously they aren’t doing that.) It just reeks of desperation
>>538203477>Imagine being stupid enough to pay for A.I..
>>538207541Dumb pajeet is arguing for investing in power plants instead of AI.
>>538207678It is desperation, I mean if you remove Ai spending then the murican economy would already be contracting and almost all of that spending is a circle jerk between gov, AI companies, Nvidia and some others. They are trying to avoid the crash once the music stops but I don't think they'll succeed.
>>538207434Well if you were using US models you would typically pay $10-20 per million tokens (but if a lot of that is repetitive you get discounts). But if you wre working on big corporate codebases and your employer is paying you could be using tens of millions a day no problem. My projects are pretty small and focused so I usually only spend a few bucks a day and 1 hour of AI use =1-2 days of manual coding. Maybe more because I don't have to waste time learning a bunch of shit I don't care about for basic things. Like if you wanna build someething out of wood do you want to build your own drill or machine your own screws? No you want to concentrate on making a ballista and using it to conquer a walled city that refuses to acknowledge you as the rightful king.
>>538207307Exactly, A.I. = Acknowledge IsraelLLM's are censored and now held back from the general public. Getting an answer from a data set you/someone cured using tokens is retarded, hallucinatory slop.
>>538203700>tokenmaxxing How does people falling basic economy class end as CEOs?
>>538203477nigga its a computer - just do a 180 and walk away. fuck ur tokens
>>538203477This is like when computers were new and fancy and they thought everybody needed a computer in the classroom or whatever and now kids are dumber than ever, it’s like people never understand they don’t have to use advanced tools for every little thing
>>538207775>They are trying to avoid the crash100% this, the covid plandemic also prolonged this problem.
>>538203759>>538203816>innovationshttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/03/meta-ai-powered-instagram-facebook-profiles
>>538205718Faster at what? Reading? I guarantee you a simple calculator can process words faster than you can. You have to be a very special kind of human, the kind that can look at a page and instantly process everything, to compete. There are even humans that can use one eye to process the left page and the right to process the right page near instantly. You are not one of them.
>>538204301I recognise that bulge
>>538203477I wouldn't be sursprised if 80% of those tokens were siphoned out of the system and sold on the secondary market.
>>538203477Techjeet told everyone they will be replaced with AI. Now it's their turn, they desperately botting prompts to inflat the cost to prove they are better than AI.
>>538205490Uber is a similar money sink, they're betting on driverless cars*in the future*
>>538203641bro spacx already did a retirement fund infusion into AI, and they are getting contracts
>>538204101Jej
>>538208180> process wordsWhat a moron
>>538208255There is a driverless minibus in my city. Because how slow and small it is its only used in peaceful roads with small unpopular bus routes. Makes sense in certain roads and areas where traditional bus would be too expensive to have a route on.
>>538203526They're like bitcoins, but not useless.
>>538206926>steams them into the atmosphere How hot are they running that shit?
>>538207918>A.I. = Acknowledge IsraelHoly Kek
>>538208023The only class I ever had a computer in that wasn't strictly focused computers was Wildlife Recreations because it was the first year they introduced the class. Which didn't even have a course. It was in a room in the woodworking shop which was a big outside metal building detached from the high school that also houses the auto class and I think the Future Farmers of America. The computer was just there. No real reason. We would basically watch Mythbusters and Dirty Jobs every single fucking day. Some days we wouldn't do shit and the niggers would play music on the computer. This was in about 2007. I am insanely jealous of the resources zoomers and Gen alpha have at school now.
>>538203641>>538203679go back to plebbit you stupid faggot motherfucker, holy shit
>>538203526>I'll be honest, I genuinely have no idea what those are.on average a single word splits into 2-3 tokens
>>538207436LLM prompting and Bitcoin mining produce entirely different brands of entirely worthless product.
>>538203562AI a shit
>>538208302Yes. You can break words down into 1s and 0s, retard. A simple calculator can process those 1s and 0s faster than you can.
>>538204083Peter Thiel was also an investor in facebookProbably a darpa asset himself
>>538203562>>538205986>>538206001
>>538203679look up? is ceiling sar
>>538205237>AI>insight Nigger you are so retarded you are a disgrace to your home nation.
>>538208544some motherfuckers out there "dis gonna save humanity"
>>538203477How they calculated the cost? One thing is the price for clients and other is the raw cost
>>538203853gynoids indistinguishable female humanoid sex robots
>>538203719there's two models. the api and the browser interfacethe api is going to get pricierthe browser interface is gradually going to get cheaper
>>538207252>secretlythat is because this is common knowledge so the ai is technically correct
>>538208651He's talking about insight into human nature by virtue of how people utilize AI, not that AI provides its own insight you absolutely retarded knuckledragging walking proof of Jews being right about goyim.
>>538209028
>>538203679>REEEEEEEE HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW ALL THE LINGO FOR AI REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ITS LIKE YOU DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEElmao'ing at your life
>>538203522>i mean im not payingyes you are
>>538203477talon na kurwe i bota
>>538208772It was never about "saving" humanity, they are working AI nonstop to develop and implement a human to machine interface to allow the global rich and elite to upload themselves into a server to live forever until they can develop proper wetware to redownload themselves into or temporarily walk around in these shitty bi-petal robots; why else would companys also spend billions getting robots to walk like us rather than have them tread around like mini battle bots like they are supposed to?
>>538205986>MLPFucking ponyfags every time
>>538205819Do you not understand what the word proxy means?
>>538208544Noooo there's way too much salt there for kitties!
>>538203477just realised that the more AI i use the more fucked americans are
>>538204096Literally, any free LLM gives you books of words for freeI don't get it
>>538203700>Goverments and ministrys are shit at planning, so let the free market fix that!Companies are as bad as the goverment. They just are good at maximizing their profits on the back of everyone else!
>>538205819The cost per word changes depending on model and version of that model, the Polak is correct.The conversion rate between word count and token count is not the same between models, not the same between different input languages on the same model, and even varies with time.If you've worked megacorp, you've heard of Agile Management - they use it for any department these days, including janitors - and agile management expresses workload not in man-hours, but in Story Points.Tokens are the AI version of Story Points
>>538210041companies don't even maximize profits anymore, they maximize quarterly gain so if one quarter does really well a few bad ones don't matter at all
>>538203575lol then it's actually energy backed currencycurrency backed by physics
>>538203477>more tokens>more gooder
>>538203522look at his face they reward people based on metrics that are retarded. >unintended consequenceshave always had someone with a face like that behind it.and it just continues.over and over and over and over and overhe hires morons and women and I repeat myself and they get promoted based on how many tokens they spend because it looks like productivity to the other morons
>>538207436bitcoin are random numbersLLM are random sentences
>>538209144>>538203522wdym? my company pays for it I don't, simple as
