What's the point of goth subculture?
>>538209154Anal sex.
>>538209154not goth.
wish i were a cute asian goth girl why am i so unlucky sigh..
>>538209154Subculture died in 2007It’s now just a scattered collection of individuals that don’t interact
>>538209282Moreover what are the political implications
>>538209154To sell products.
>>538209154Theres no such thing as subculture anymore because we dont have any real culture. What do these retards produce other than tiktoks? The original goth scene produced music, film, clothing styles, etc. But everything now is just a weak imitation by a generation raised on media consumption only. There are only slightly varied shades of the jewish monocult, and then racist nationalists who are essentially doing the same thing of imitating but at least we have something real at the base and a higher ideal above us.
How much HRT would i need to look like this? I' 42 years old.
to rape
>>538209154cute
>>538209154I wonder how she looks without the filters and heavy makeup.
>>538209304>>538209282they used to be depressed, were they the emos?
this shit isn't goth, is there an actual word for it? i grew up when mall goths started being a thing who were hated by the original goths now there's these things who aren't goth but not quite mall goth though they obviously got heavy inspiration from mall goths
>>538209154>What's the point of goth subculture?So that big tiddied goth girls exist. What kind of autistic retarded turbofaggot are you to even ask something that stupid?
>>538210818Sneed goths
>>538209154To promote breeding.
>>538209154To make my cock hard.
>>538210573Just put on some lipstick and say you do. Anyone who doesn't validate your delusions is a bigot.
>>538210791goth was more just macabre than depressed>>538210818e-girl
>>538209613/thread
>>538209154Solid 0/10
>>538209154guarantee that not one modern fake goth ho knows who edward gorey waseverything is surface level these days
>>538209154simp-farming. these bitches probably all listen to taylor swift.
>>538209154To be a good goyim
>>538209154To make 6s look like 8s
>>538209154>Tattoos I'm glad the mark of the whore is popular now a days
>>538209154You can start by posting a goth girl, then we can talk.
>>538209233kek
>>538212981pretty sure they wouldn't even know who Siouxsie sioux is
>>538213874
>>538209613The original Goth scene destroyed the Roman Empire. Look up Odoacer.
>>538213931Well done Ivan, you got me to laugh.
>>538213924who?
>>538209154Disgusting desu.
>>538209154To look at hot girls in black clothes.
>>538209233How does one become goth? Is there an open enrollment event in November or what?
>>53820915499% of goth girls today arent goth but following a trend created by thots who use the goth look to draw in simps. Goth culture is basically dead, it was stomped on by the emo/scene thing in the 2005-2015 and hasn't reall recovered. Goths are generally kids with bad homes who drifted into a sub culture that surrounds them with loud music so they cant hear their mopey hearts. The dom-mommy thing is basically a defense mechanism to keep people away, today its popular because zoomer want to be called a fag while their dom-mommy pegs them
>>538216255For me, it was the poor trailer trash goth/emo chick's. The ones that smelled like ash trays and had true childhood trauma making them real easy to get into bed. Unfortunately the goth/emo mostly faded away, but by love for trashy women will burn brightly forever
>>538209154Hey manBe careful with your foot.
>>538209154Attention seeking
Goths are from a time when black referred to night and shadow and not a race of people. In that sense Goths were black people.Blacks morphed from African Americans into black because they saw black was popular.It was a time of sitting in graveyards telling ghost stories, they weren't nerdy enough to be geeks but they didn't want to be jocks. A lot of them were gamers, girl Goths unfortunately smoked a lot and it was gross.What you wanted was that straight edge Christian girl that leaned into goth and made it a dark religious thing but most Goths would eventually either become shitposters or uppity karens.
>>538209154It was basically a funeral costume party for outcasts. At least in the 90's. The Goths of the late Roman and post Roman era were warriors and would have more in common with modern soldiers than spooky kids who like 80's rock.
>>538209154That’s why you need to be an emo. If you don’t hate life and this country you’re doing it wrong. I’m not asking about gay screamo and hot topic shit either. Just don’t cut your self and kill yourself.
>>538209154Subcultures were a way to specialize by decreasing your sexual market competition and increasing your sexual market value. If you were a 5/10 overall you could pick a niche market to provide your product to and increase to an 8/10. It’s the same reason that a single balding 35 year old man travels to SEA.
>>538209154Fluffy tail, soft fur, long ears.
>>538209154It was a thing in the 80s tied to a music scene. The goth scene today is women larping as a gimmick to sell porn. Its not the same as it used to be, a lot of these goth e-girls listen to shitty rappers
>>538209154It’s for mid girls to get attention
>>538209154>tattoodropped
>>538210573You’ll need a shot of 12ga 00 directly to the forehead
>>538209154>>538209236You're not going to get a serious answer because it's basicaly just a commercial aesthetic now that has been reabsorbed into the mainstream.It's a porn meme at this point.Goths did it to themselves, I always loved postpunk and industrial but they cared more about gossip and drugs. Terminally boring people, just a silo for creative white genes to die.
>>538217482Back in the 90s I knew a goth girl that would walk around the neighborhood listening to porn sounds on a walkman
>>538209233I like you anon. No homo.
>>538209154Belonging, anon.
>>538209154there isnt a goth subculture bud, some of whore with a billion doodles on her and black lip stick isnt a goth. its been erased just like any other identity whites used to have
>>538209233Fpbp
>>538209154It's about being a non conformist. You have to dress exactly like them to show how non conformist you are
It’s fetish content. Just like porn has fetish categories so does thirst trap social media.
>>538209233I don’t get it. Is goth culture for homos?
>>538209154For women: to suck black dickFor men: become trannyIts a funeral for the white race
>>538212897>The Queen of /pol/Autistic, big titties, hates niggers, loves fried chicken, has a kot, loves skinny white guys
>>538218361Averi is flat doe.
>>538217482Nearly everything is just a prepackaged consumer identity in the age of mass media and global corporate monoculture
>>538218361>The Queen of /pol/Maybe the living queen
>>538213931I hope Brittany let's you hit it anon. This is dedication
>>538217676Way ahead of her time, who doesn't want to hear fake orgasms and the only good use of jazz.
>>538209154The point is so that fat ugly chicks have an excuse to wear more makeup than usual. This is why clown girls are also currently popular.
>>538218620And everyone wants it that way, even /pol/.Ain't nobody walking around in robes.
>>538209233Two tiddies against an Anus Destroyer?
>>538209154That's not a goth but, it's more a kind of vibe you appreciate. It's common on the right because the right basically is close to alt scenes, but again, it comes down to your vibes. I haven't played the game but from what I gather, dark souls is very goth vibe.>>538209304Goth really doesn't work for shitskins.>>538209317dumbest answer.>>538209613goth is all about imitation of the past. >>538210791EMO was a gateway to goth.>>538217482Strikingly accurate but a bit pessimistic. It's actually something of a white enclave culture, but there's a lot of scene politics. >>538218350The total opposite is true. It's one of the most racially exclusive scenes and you don't find normies in it. It's hard to explain but it's a vibe that is inaccessible to a lot of people. There's a lot of scene control and cock blocking though.
She has that same weird FAS face that Momo-kun has
>>538209154>fingergunsgives me the ick
>>538219657I miss my skinny pale rat face gf
>>538209154this is just fashion. there is no "subculture" since they don't do anything beyond wear this sort of clothing.
>>538210573Kek
>>538210791goth was not depressed, it was more a dark vibe.self-harm and depression came after in other subcultures. i think it was a jew test to see of they could convince young goys to hurt themselves
>>538219322Lmao it takes me like 30 seconds to have a fresh new IP address that I can use to report all your shit twice, three times, four times, n-times. I'll have ANOTHER one by the time you get around to reporting this one. Yiff in hell, furfag
Best goth girl
>>538220002Why don't you use all those IPs to make politically relevant posts?
>>538220211Politically relevant posts in a thread about goths?
>>538209154The women are hot Anyways, I'm king of the edgelords. When you simmer edge and nihilism long enough, you get fun impish sorts that dont believe in anything, but are generally well adjusted and fun. I've walked around in death metal band tees all my life, and if it's authentic (read: something you actually like) most people seem to resonate. Lots of people love edgy anime and unreadable band logos and my experience is that tons of people love gore if it's tasteful or doesnt take itself too seriously. It signals a bohemian sort of refinement.The aesthetic aspect is popular because it's like... early 2000s and things go in 30 year cycles, so the people listening to The Faceless and watching Cannibal Holocaust are being emulated by the younger gens, particularly because there is a retro internet revival. I get the best of both worlds; people who know are happy to discuss whatever I'm into, and people who don't at least recognize the time and curation. Had a great conversation about Francis Bacon (painter/faggot) the other day along those lines.
>>538209154There is inherent suffering to existence, this is the noble truth of the Buddha.This suffering is caused by human desire and need, which can never been satisfied.How then should we relate to this suffering?The Buddhist would say to relinquish desire, where the end point is to become a hollow shell of a person.The Christian would say to accept the suffering, and trust in God's love and the sacrifice of Christ to forgive all sins.The Hedonist would say to overwhelm the senses, to mask the underlying suffering.The Nihilist would say that existence is meaningless and suffering is an illusion, so don't worry about it or anything else for that matter since you're throwing Love out with the bathwater as well.In modern times we are accustomed to talk to someone, but a psychologist is hard to get, expensive and unavailable when you need them. A friend is difficult because most people do not want to engage in another persons suffering, or they do not know how and would instead make a bad situation worse. Most people won't do either and instead deny or suppress their trauma, until it breaks them.The Goth handles the suffering of life by micro dosing it every day, to speak "I am in pain" a little bit all the time.Not hiding or denying it, not seeking salvation from somewhere else, but to wear it on their literal sleeves and externalize the pain. They break social conventions when you are expected to put on a smile and pretend everything is all right. They take agony and transfigures it into art. Goth, Emo and Expressionists are all part of the same continuum of trying to express the turmoil which can't be said in words.I think it's the healthiest option really.Plus chicks in black with a collar is hot as fuck. Every time I see a woman with black lipstick I need to have those around my dick god damn.
>>538209154Not goth, just a poser
>>538220282This is a board about politics is it not?
>>538219396The Taliban are a genuine local subculture. They're self consciously Reactionary and reject not just the values but the conveniences.and technologies of the global corporate monoculture.I'm not brown though so I'm not gonna convert to Islam
>>538209154Contrasting black clothing/nail polish with pale white skin is hot. It's not that deep.
>>538209154actual goth is super rare now.Like, the people that actually dress the part and are into gothic things.However, there’s still a prominent pseudo goth style that’s still around and kicking but it’s like redneck trailer trash druggy goth. Not at all the same thing.
>>538220355If that's what the Christian would say, he didn't read his bible.Jesus taught 1 thing more than anything else: you too can be God incarnate just like him.Luke 9 is dedicated to this fact. The 12 apostles gain all of Jesus' god powers there and use them to do the same miracles.Deferring divinity to the church is satanic.As such, the Christian who knows his material would say to fight the suffering with righteous benevolence and violent retribution against all those who do harm intentionally.
Goth these days is merely an aestheticThey like the style these people wear, their dressings etcThere is no political msg tied to it (anymore), its just an imitation of the original without ideals though goth inluencers will tell you its a leftwing anti establishment bs whatever. It has no ideology anymore and is purely an empty shell of the original.Its dead, essentially, kept alive via social media and small enclaves that are there purely of the aesthetic.Thats itLately fetishized and thus ruined even the little that was left of it
>>538220601To debate Christian doctrine is outside the scope of this threadAll I have to say is that you're a heretic
>>538220763Good.Heresy means choice.
>>538209154I think it simply signals a pessimistic worldview. Or overall disapproval with society and culture.
>>538220355I hate your prose, but agree with your statement at the end of the day. One minor tweak:It's the postmodern "hippie"; someone who is self aware, but received the cold shoulder when they tried to save the world instead of drugs and success. Someone "goth" who became successful did so in spite of nihilism and rejection, which imbues them with the "magic" of postmodernism, that ineffable triumph and transmission of feeling that cannot be grasped or known from the surface without commentary. Not that it's deep, you can psychoanalyze the archetype accurately, but someone in a suit at work but walking around in a Death hoodie on their days off is marked, and visible. To handle scrutiny for 20+ years changes a person. So in a society of constant observation, people want to emulate that carefree confidence: look at me I'm obviously standing out, and either I've learned to handle the gaze, or I'll be consumed by it then discard it.So, instead of microdosing pain, it relates the content to the absurd. Liking this instead of that when your hamburger came from a slaughter house is just as absurd as live laugh love on your wall made in a hell factory.
>>538220654>here is no political msg tied to it (anymore)There never was, loser. It wasn't until it was invaded by trannies (why the fuck do they all obsess over that style and all call themselves witches?) that it became politicized at all.
>>538220363I don't give a shit, I'm not here to provide you with content or educate you. I'm here to hate. Politics is gay.
>>538209154*sniff*
>>538221127This guy gets it. I educate incidentally due to spite and contempt, but same vibes; it makes the insults more effective.
>>538209154Goth has devolved a lot over there years and these days simply means fashion trend for pretty girls and nothing more
>>538221127So you admit that you engage in off-topic behavior, yet cry for mommy janny to save you from unheckingwholesome imagery?
>>538220355>The Buddhist would say to relinquish desire, where the end point is to become a hollow shell of a person.Nah that's a common Western misunderstanding of Buddhism. Ridding yourself of "desire" and attaining nirvana doesn't mean you become an indifferent statue. It's often described as a state of pure bliss and especially in the Mahayana tradition you'll be filled with compassion and want to help others attain it too.
>>538216456Girls who look and smell like this are still my weakness.
>>538220654In the 80s it was a meme for reporters to do street interviews where they ask teenagers about the iran CONTRA scandal or other current event and when they get to the gentleman with a mohawk or a bull through his nose, they intend to humiliate him and expose as a know-nothing, only for him to give an answer that is remarkably nuanced and shows a great deal of sophistication regarding international politics. The underlying message was that you can't judge by appearances, and now people on reddit say you cant be a spooky person at all unless youre a leftist. Judge me harder
>>538222057Normies unironically just don't get it
>>538209154To make my dick hard.Females are toys for men to have fun with.
>>538209154it's the living dead that died 40 years ago
>>538222036
>>538209154It is to make pp hard. unless its a guy, then its cringe.
>>538216456>>538222036>>538209154
>>538209154rilie makes my dick so fucking hard
>>538213924fuck dude, that's from the 80's
>>538217380>mid
>>538209154it's just some teenage rebellion. in eastern europe when girls want to rebel they just become goth for a few years and dye their hair black. then they grow up and embrace their blond hair again.
>>538209154to make my dick hard
>>538214725the girl enjoying herself
>>538209154> It's the 90s> you and your friends break into a cemetary at night> your gf stole a bottle of absinth from her dad who smuggled it in from "somewhere totally cool in Europe" but she doesn't know where> you take turns smoking a bidhi > it's just a type of cigarette from "somewhere in the orient" but you are all convinced that it contains opium and stuff> you and your girlfriend sneak off while your friends play Vampire the Macarade/Werewolf/Mage whatever > her gigantic pale tits bursting from the bodice/corset/whatever that she's too ashamed to admit that she is too fat for> the two of you find a tombstone that looks like a throne chair> it has gargoyals and shit > you fingerblast the fuck out of her as the sound of Gustav Mahler plays in the background on a shitty Sony Discmanhttps://youtu.be/0z8y1K0DLdo?si=8gzzWbd45kZu6-QN
>>538209154The point was to annoy disco listening normies.
>>538224116fake stories on the internet. you would have to be an absolute turbo virgin to listen that music as a kid
>>538224635I didn't get to pick out the song, anon. I was into GG Allen and neo-nazi punk rock back then. But this is a goth thread.Here, replace Mahler with Carmalitta, that's what I would have put on if I could go back and do it againhttps://youtu.be/lcI2vzpK3zE?is=01553p_3OzhHp1J7
>>538220416true but it's ruined by tattoos in 80% of cases.
>>538209154people like you can't even define goth so who cares
>>538223843she is mid you fag shes a 4 without makeup
>>538209154zoomers have no culture or soul. they are skin walkers.
>>538226394can you?
>>538209154>muh culture>muh subculture>muh uberculture>muh left culture>muh right culture>muh counter culture>muh cancel culture>muh rape culture>muh hate culture>muh luv culture>muh dick culture>muh shit culture>muh cultucultucultuooogaaabooogaaa reeeeeeeee !!!I don't murigays understand what culture is
>>538227728cope
>>538223736She works at GameStop too.
>>538227728>she is mid you fag shes a 4 without makeupAnon, I....
>>538228352If you grew up in the 90s you probably lost your virginity to one of these during a break at some summer mcjob they were pretty much village bycicles
>>538218271Yes, goth boys wear makeup and are emotionalHalf the time the goth girls are trans so anal-only
>>538209154These days it's simple. It allows woman to level up hear appearance. Ugly girl turning goth becomes average. And average girl turning goth becomes hot. And a hot girl turning goth becomes irresistible.
>>538209154Goth subculture does not exist anymore. It hasn't in a bare minimum of 20 years and even 20 years ago "goth culture" was split between the old school and the new school mall-goth conformist faggots and fat chicks who shopped at Hot Topic.Goth has been dead for a long time.
>>538210791Goth originally came out of the post-punk scene of the late 70s/early 80s. Most of the original bands don't acknowledge the label for themselves (The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy) but most of the bands directly inspired by them usually do. Being from the post-punk scene, some bands were a lot more experimental than others. Topics could range from love, to drugs, family life, isolation, or even just the macabre and horrorEmo is a bit more complicated but the short answer is that what most people see as "emo" is the third wave of emo, which became popular in the 00s. This came out of the pop-punk scene, which is partly why it was a lot more accessible to kids/teens. Lyrics tended to focus more on broken hearts/relationships/fights with parents, but that's a generalization
>>538209154>>538209282>>538210818>>538212781>>538213874i only like the music and the dark atmosphere of goth clubs but all the women there are simultaneously "look at me" but also "dont talk to me I am too cool for you to talk to" pretty to look at but they are kind of stuck up narcissistic bitches. i always had better luck meeting girls in legitimate punk rock clubs.
goth is a failed kikes attempt to peddle trve to normless. they eventually succeeded with metal/deathcore nonsense.
>>538216965>girl Goths unfortunately smoked a lot and it was grossA lot of them smoked those godawful stinking clove cigarettes too. There was one brand that was popular because they were solid black cigarettes with gold bands that looked very fancy and Gothic. I tried one and it made me want to vomit.
