>https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2026/07/decree-of-excommunication-published.html
>>538209516>Notwithstanding the warnings addressed to the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X, Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta, having committed an act of a schismatic nature by means of the episcopal consecration of four priests, without a pontifical mandate and against the will of the Supreme Pontiff, has incurred ipso facto the penalties provided for by can. 1387 and can. 1364 § 1 CIC 2021>Clerics and lay faithful are warned not to adhere to the schism of the Society of Saint Pius X, as they would thereby incur ipso facto the penalty of latae sententiae excommunication.
>>538209516Seems like Catholics are not welcome in New Synodal Church of New Advent.
>>538209516i mean think of the catholic church what you want but that is clearly a schismatic act. sometimes i wonder if sspx is just too full of protestant converts who think it's only about their interpretation of the faith
>>538209605This excommunication looks a million times worse than the one in 88'. Do you support broadening these excommunications to include laity?
>>538209660It doesn't matter what i support, such matters are for church authority to decide. Personally I think the old liturgy should never have been condemned, and that v2 was a disaster. But if you then decide to go schism I also can't take you seriously
>The Church, as a devoted mother, will receive with sincere affection and eager care all those who desire to return to full communion. The Apostolic Nuncios will have at their disposal the procedures that Ordinaries may employ in the various cases.Maybe a recall of traditiones custodes is in order? Maybe I'm reading too much into this line.
>>538209660I support the excomunication and anything drawing a clear line between modernists and traditionalists.This is a good news.
This is hvge.Maybe it will shake the fake trads into action.
>>538209605>>538209704You would be 100% right if the "popes" hadn't promoted heresy and scandal for 80y now.probably around 0.1% of living "catholics" conserve the Faith by now
>>538209516Based. Tell that negro loving antipope to fuck off where he came from. Ami go home.
>>538209948There have been terrible popes before, and the spirit of modernity is like the final boss of humanity. At some point you just gotta decide whether you stick with the marriage or go build your own "church" somewhere else. I sympathize with the sspx but I don't agree with their methods.
>>538209516Let me know when they designated Francis as an antipope in service of secular communist globalists.Oh, yeah, Francis's "new Jerusalem" is a fucking mass grave sunken coast tomb now incubating diseases as tens of thousands of bodies rot in the tropical sun.Fuck Catholics.
>>538209516>B-But that pope is so based...! Bergoglio BTFO'd!!Remember, following centuries old Catholic doctrine and tradition is schismatic now
>>538209516
>>538210164They will join Sedevacantists. Thry have a lot of things to teach them. You too should learn from them.
>>538209516Bunch of pedo wizards
>>538210091Bruth you're so behind the discourse.The fact Vatican II popes have been antipopes and the church was overtaken by heretics is soooo 2018. Now what you propose makes no sense, because you'd be Damned by sticking to the Novus Ordo (you need to be in communion with your antipope) and accept their "magisterial" heretical teachings, or go into seclusion and risk being a schismatic.You choose what you think is less dangerous.But then again you're probably a nuCatholic already raised in Heresy, so it's over for you before it began.
>>538209716Take that "Mother" language and connect it to the following, fool:Epstein proposed “Mothers army,” “enlist on the web,” “colonel positions” including “governor of michigan,” and “military terms.. chairman„ general-- board of directors - joint chiefs,” Jeffrey Epstein to Sarah, “Re:,” Apr. 6, 2009, EFTA02412698–EFTA02412699, at EFTA02412698–99; Sarah said she needed Epstein’s “silent vigil” over “the business and commercial arm,” Sarah/Epstein chain, “Re: Fw: Mothers’ Army Planning Session,” June 8, 2009, EFTA02443328–EFTA02443331, at EFTA02443328–31; and David Stern proposed “Mothers Army Inc or Ltd” with “49% F equity / 51% JEE,” David Stern, “F Update,” Sept. 10, 2009, EFTA02436529–EFTA02436530, at EFTA02436529–30. So the smell is this: the US Supreme Court is deciding a “mothers / birth / citizenship” case after a US Congressional transparency regime exposed an Epstein-linked project using motherhood as mobilized religious-legal-social power.
>>538209516Explain it like I'm 5. What is SSPX and what did they do?
>>538209516Where in the Bible did Jesus give Peter the right to excommunicate someone from salvation?
>>538210313Seriously...what the fuck is that staff/cane? Like a withered geezer cock dangling in front of a flock of worshipers. Christianity is some bogus schizoid shit man.
>>538210350Ironic, since you sound like a child to me. Good luck anyway
>>538210399Even Major Excommunications respect Free Will, you can abjure your errors before you die, even on your death bed.>>538210424Kek you would be shocked if I told you who I was.
>>538210400It’s a crosier staff, they copied it from the roman augurs (diviners), like most shit in christianity. Everything’s repurposed pagan stuff.
>>538210385The SSPX was a society started by its founder to train traditional priests according to traditional teachings. In 88' they were excommunicated by the vatican for ordaining bishops without a papal mandate, excommunicating their founder plus the 4 bishops that were consecrated during that time. Under Benedict's pontificate these excommunications were lifted. Under Bergoglio's pontificate, they were given faculties to witness marriages and confessions. Yesterday the society consecrated 4 more bishops to keep the society afloat. This is the source behind these new excommunications. However, the excommunications in 88' only applied to clergy associated with the SSPX. These excommunications cover both clergy and laity.
>>538210468>you would be shocked if I told you who I wasShadow the Hedgehog? You definitely talk like him.
>>538210268Thanks. But I think the papal lineage was legit beyond Pius, all the way to Benedict XVI. I'm wary of Leo XIV because Francis named shitloads of bishops.It's Francis who, if you study his encyclicals, is an obvious Epstein Sex Trafficking Stooge and nothing more.
>>538209605> schismatics now have schismatics of their ownWatch me not give a smidgen of a fuck.
>>538210350The Pornocracy was in the 10th century, anon.The Roman "catholic" so-called church was always a fake and gay political project.
>>538210385SSPX is a traditional group that preserves pre-Vatican II Latin Mass, traditional sacraments, and doctrine. (So followers of the faith from before the suicide of Catholicism). And provably the biggest traditional movement in the world.They needed new bishops to stay alive as the two last ones are very old and overworked. Pope said fuck you even though when China gets new CCP approved bishops he doesn't give a shit, and he happily meets Bad Bunny and the Anglican bitch while he refused to meet any of them face to face.He's clearly saying>Fuck historical catholicism!
>>538210586>alwaysAnd in a mere six letters, over two millennia is summarized so.....*eloquently.*
>>538210586even if the "pornocracy" was real, and not entirely made up, it would still not matter.You can be the biggest sinner on Earth and still uphold the Faith.Moral conduct=/= Orthodoxy.
>>538210625Antipope*Start using this term.
>>538209704>But if you then decide to go schism I also can't take you seriouslyVatican II was the schism.If Vatican declare Catholicism is now about worshiping Buddha with Ewoks as his angels, faithfuls telling him to go suck a schlong and continuing the real faith in their corner aren't the one in the wrong.
>>538210638>over two millenniaThe Roman "catholic" so-called church was created in 824 A.D. by Charlemagne's son.There is nothing two millennia about it.
>>538210687Right like Pope Alexander VI's "Borgia" is a legitimate papacy, even if debaucherous.But when the "Pope" is actually in service to Jeff Epstein and the global secular/Masonic elite? That's not a pope, that's literally the definition of an antipope.
>>538210714This is the protestant attitude to a church. Either way good luck to you too. Honestly it was my bad coming in here on nu/pol/ of all places.
>>538210751Source: you made it upYou don't deserve further responses.
>>538210687The Roman "catholic" so-called church is a fake and gay political project that is only tangentially related to Christianity.They use some Christian-themed paraphernalia and words, but ultimately the whole shtick is just a political project invented and kept alive by European political elite.It was a fake and gay psyop from the start. (824 A.D.)
>>538210714Roman "catholicism" is not Christian. It's a political movement that upholds European autocracy, with some tangentially Christian-themed paraphernalia thrown into the mix.But the Christianity theme is completely tangential and irrelevant. Roman "catholicism" will continue on even when it sheds its Christian theme and starts adopting Muslim or pagan adornments.
>>538210785https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Eugene_IIYou dumb fuck.> This constitution included the statute that no pope should be consecrated until his election had the approval of the Frankish emperor.
>>538210759If literally Jeffrey Epstein was elected Pope and only promulgated Orthodox teachings, while being outwardly Catholic, but still had orgies with underage girls or whatever he's accused of, he would be a valid Pope.But paradoxically mayhaps, someone like Francis cannot possible be Pope even if his "moral" conduct was Saint-like, because he promotes Heresy and is not a outward Catholic. >>538210796meds
>>538209516Did they excommunicate all the chomos? Oh no that’s right they just shuffled them around kek.
>>538210766This is the attitude of people who believe in the words of the holy virgin Mary and to the papal infaillibility.
>>538210796>>538210851>>538210903You're so inorganic and just flippantly winging this conversation without any education or real knowledge on the subject.>heh, you said I don't deserve another response yet here you areYou still don't. I just wanted to further highlight how it's obvious you're not here to add genuine concerns regarding the Catholic Church's involvement in the Epstein Files, instead hoping to argue that Christianity is newer than Islam.Assuming you're one of the Epstein jew rats who benefits from this "mother's Army world", your stupidity is just a demonstration of why the entire project must be called out where it exists and dismantled. Tired of loud retards acting like they're "right" because they're in some Epstein Mafia. Fuck you.
>>538210921Read the history of your own sects, dumbfuck.Roman "catholic" popes were always political appointees of various European autocrats.Coincidentally, these autocrats also made it illegal to doubt any proclamations made by the Popes they appointed, and enshrines their bulls and encyclicals as if they were divine commandments.
>>538211011>alwaysAnd in a mere six letters, over two millennia is summarized so.....*eloquently.*
>>538210967a) Roman "catholicism" is not a Church.b) Roman "catholicism" is not Christian.I don't give a fuck what the so-called pope in Rome does, no more than I care about the schisms and scandals of the Jehova's Witnesses or Mormons.
>>538211050Orthodogs do not get a say.
>>538211039The para-Christian sect in Rome was invented in 795 AD by Charlemagne and officially put into law in 824 AD.Don't try to appropriate 2000 years of Christian history because your popery bullshit has nothing to do with Christ.
>>538211050Your own fervor and how much time you are spending discussing this betrays you. You obviously have an agenda to try and minimize the historic ->literally in the history books- implications of the Epstein Files Transparency Act (which is never going to go away, you know).
>>538211088Didn't ask, don't care.
>>538211099Trust me, I won't try arguing with you. You're so dishonest it bleeds.
>>538211132>Didn't ask, don't care.Same, so stfu orthodogs retard.
>>538211011>>538211050I'll just spend a second addressing this silliness.God is Omniscient and Omnipotent.Political meddling has never been considered and issue not in Eastern or Western Catholicism.No matter how much you exaggerate the issue.We are discussing several tiers above your paygrade, memeflag.
Imagine arguing over how to worship a jewish rabbi
>>538209516Oh wow a tiny faction of weirdos got excommunicated and is destined for helll.
>>538210625Traditions as these
reminder that nostra aetate was written by a gay jew (yes a homosexual jew wrote vatican two biggest document) and the freemansory has also been inside the catholic church for a long timehttps://youtu.be/KRDLlXvc2NI?si=5VHivsEfji5Ds92f
>>538210468Pope /ourguy/ confirmed
>>538211132>>538211170While you two balls in a sack do your little 4chan performative argument for 60IQs, here's the stuff that Google Gemini tells me when I analyze Pope Francis's encyclicals.Can you stop AI from teaching me this with your shitty 4chan argument tactics? No, you cannot.*-*I. The Subjugation of Private Property to Collectivist RedistributionThe foundational pillar of Marxist ideology is the abolition or extreme restriction of private property. In *Fratelli Tutti*, the traditional Catholic defense of private property (robustly defended by Pope Leo XIII against socialism) is explicitly demoted to a "secondary" right that can be overridden by the state or global community.>"The principle of the common use of created goods is the 'first principle of the whole ethical and social order'; it is a natural and inherent right that takes priority over others. All other rights having to do with the goods necessary for the integral fulfilment of persons, including that of private property or any other type of property, should... 'in no way hinder [this right], but should actively facilitate its implementation'. The right to private property can only be considered a secondary natural right, derived from the principle of the universal destination of created goods. This has concrete consequences that ought to be reflected in the workings of society."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter Fratelli Tutti, ¶ 120 (2020).By formally redefining private property as merely a "secondary natural right," the encyclical provides the theological and moral justification for aggressive state expropriation and global wealth redistribution. It signals to socialist governments that the Catholic Church will no longer stand as a bulwark against the collectivization of wealth.
>>538211366II. The Eradication of National Sovereignty and BordersGlobalist ideology requires the dissolution of the Westphalian nation-state. *Fratelli Tutti* constructs a geopolitical framework where sovereign borders are treated as illegitimate barriers to global resource sharing, demanding that nations surrender their territorial exclusivity.>"No one, then, can remain excluded because of his or her place of birth, much less because of privileges enjoyed by others who were born in lands of greater opportunity. The limits and borders of individual states cannot stand in the way of this."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 121 (2020).>"Seen from the standpoint not only of the legitimacy of private property and the rights of its citizens, but also of the first principle of the common destination of goods, we can then say that each country also belongs to the foreigner, inasmuch as a territory’s goods must not be denied to a needy person coming from elsewhere."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 124 (2020).The assertion that "each country also belongs to the foreigner" is a direct assault on the concept of national sovereignty. It strips the citizenry of their exclusive right to the fruits of their own nation's labor and heritage, effectively legalizing open-borders mass migration as a binding moral imperative rather than a matter of prudential state policy.
>>538211203>Political meddlingInstalling a pocket religious leader and then claiming this religious leader is a direct infallible voice of God goes quite a bit beyond "political meddling", anon.
>>538211384III. The Demand for Coercive Global GovernanceTo enforce this borderless, redistributionist utopia, the encyclicals explicitly demand the creation of a supranational authority with the power to punish non-compliant sovereign nations—the ultimate objective of the secular globalist project.>"The twenty-first century 'is witnessing a weakening of the power of nation states, chiefly because the economic and financial sectors, being transnational, tend to prevail over the political. Given this situation, it is essential to devise stronger and more efficiently organized international institutions, with functionaries who are appointed fairly by agreement among national governments, and empowered to impose sanctions'."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 172 (2020).>"In this regard, I would also note the need for a reform of 'the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth'."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 173 (2020).The author is openly campaigning for a global leviathan. By demanding that the United Nations acquire "real teeth" and that international functionaries be "empowered to impose sanctions," the papacy is volunteering to act as the spiritual chaplain to a one-world government. The Church is no longer presented as the supreme moral authority on earth; instead, it defers to a secular, globalized bureaucracy.
>>538211409Sources cited: 0Nobody believes you, Mr. 824 man.*-*IV. Eco-Marxism and "Ecological Debt"In *Laudato Si'*, the rhetoric of Marxist class warfare (oppressor vs. oppressed) is mapped directly onto environmentalism, creating a framework of perpetual guilt and financial liability for the industrialized West.>"Inequity affects not only individuals but entire countries; it compels us to consider an ethics of international relations. A true 'ecological debt' exists, particularly between the global north and south, connected to commercial imbalances with effects on the environment, and the disproportionate use of natural resources by certain countries over long periods of time."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Laudato Si'*, ¶ 51 (2015).The invention of an "ecological debt" owed by the Global North (the historically Christian, capitalist West) to the Global South is a transparent mechanism for massive transnational wealth transfers that ultimately was punished by God with a doublet earthquake. It weaponizes the environment to achieve the economic leveling long desired by international socialists.
>>538211337Like I said, this doesn't matter.Roman "catholicism" is not a religious faith, it's a political movement and any Christian trappings are only incidental, due to cultural inertia.In a future Muslim Europe the Vatican and Roman "catholics" will remain, and will be making cope and seethe justifications about why Sharia is based and akshually good catholicism.
>>538211482V. The Canonization of Left-Wing AgitatorsPerhaps the most glaring evidence of communist sympathy is the encyclical's overt praise for "popular movements"—the grassroots network of labor agitators, community organizers, and radical activists.>"What is needed is a model of social, political and economic participation 'that can include popular movements and invigorate local, national and international governing structures with that torrent of moral energy that springs from including the excluded in the building of a common destiny', while also ensuring that 'these experiences of solidarity which grow up from below, from the subsoil of the planet – can come together, be more coordinated, keep on meeting one another'... In that sense, such movements are 'social poets' that, in their own way, work, propose, promote and liberate."— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 169 (2020).By elevating radical left-wing agitators to the status of "social poets" whose energy springs from "the subsoil of the planet," the author explicitly aligns the Vatican with Marxist community organizing. He grants papal legitimacy to the very forces actively attempting to dismantle the traditional Western social order from the bottom up.
>>538209516Its perfectly normal and not something extraordinary, there have been 40 000 different christcuck denominations, all equally certain that they and only they know the True Faith and the 39 999 other sects are heretics. In fact, judaism, christianity and islam are really three different major sects belonging to the same religion, with these major sects being further subdivided into lesser sects.
>>538211485Sources cited: still 0Anyone can blather stupid pointless annoying opinions like yours. AI has better opinions. Why should anyone listen to an uneducated blathering fool meme flag who doesn't even cite sources?*-*VI. The Call for Institutional SubversionThe capstone of this ideological program is found at the very end of *Fratelli Tutti*, where the author provides a subversive mandate to those embedded within traditional structures.>"At times, in thinking of the future, we do well to ask ourselves, 'Why I am doing this?', 'What is my real aim?' For as time goes on, reflecting on the past... The real, and potentially painful, questions will be... 'What positive forces did I unleash?' 'How much social peace did I sow?' 'What good did I achieve in the position that was entrusted to me?'"— Pope Francis, Encyclical Letter *Fratelli Tutti*, ¶ 197 (2020).This is the language of the embedded cadre. It is a dog-whistle to ideological allies—whether in government, academia, or the Church hierarchy—reminding them that their ultimate loyalty is not to the institution they serve, but to the revolution they are facilitating. The "position entrusted" is merely a vehicle to "unleash" the forces necessary to achieve the globalist, neo-Marxist paradigm the encyclicals have spent hundreds of pages constructing.When subjected to rigorous textual analysis, these documents reveal a systematic program designed to degrade private property, eradicate national borders, empower leftist revolutionary movements, and subjugate the sovereign nations of the world to a coercive, secular international authority.*-*Ah. I could read AI all day.Liars on 4chan with an obvious subversive agenda and who can't even cite a source for their ridiculous claims? I'll pass.
>>538211543>there have been 40 000 different christcuck denominationsChristianity doesn't have "denominations", only schisms.Roman "catholics" and Protestants are a Western European and Angloid thing, this shit is on you and your broken societies.
>>538211642Spamming your shit won't will the hole inside you.
>>538211680You should read what you just wrote and take it to your own heart, fool.
>>538209516Oh hey another schism
LOLthe chud bishop got excommunicated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_de_Galarreta#2026_%C3%89c%C3%B4ne_consecrations
>>538211714Here's the source link.https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20201003_enciclica-fratelli-tutti.html>ENCYCLICAL LETTER FRATELLI TUTTI OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS ON FRATERNITY AND SOCIAL FRIENDSHIPWhere's yours, dude? Surely someone worth listening to can pony up even one? Just one link that supports anything youve said? Just one? Anything?
>>538211780THIS is the guy you fruits call the "Vicar of Christ" huh?
>>538210714The irony is that’s exactly what the Reformers said five hundred years ago.
>>538209516Pope Francis was very charitable to SSPX, and now it's clear he knew they would turn their nose up and that this is what would result. By showing so much generosity to the group he wanted their schismatic nature to become clear to everyone. This definitely ties in with his harshness toward the Latin mass in general. As arrogant as he was, he was right on this matter. The evidence is for all to see that the Latin mass has become a source of schism to the point it's treated like a false idol by its defenders. "Reverence", sure, it's a valid and sincere view of many, BUT when you're claiming reverence at the cost of being willing to go into schism over it, you've turned the Latin mass into a false idol. There is no reason why a local language mass can't be reverent, and the most important reverence is always in the individual human heart. Or is not there, as the case may be. I had a low opinion of Pope Francis overall because he was a people pleaser, stubborn, and arrogant as I mentioned (his reputation as a humble person was based on very superficial things), but this controversy around the Latin mass is something he was sadly right about. The whole trad cult has lost its marbles. That doesn't apply to only schismatic groups like SSPX but trad groups within the Church. Instead of focusing on faith it's nonstop agitation on identitarian and political stuff. So it's not that there's anything wrong with the Latin mass, of course there isn't, but it's the cottage industry around it that is the problem. That's why he imposed harsh restrictions on the Latin mass to reign it in before it gets out of hand. Anyway, he gave SSPX the perfect opportunity to show that they're not the schismatics they're reputed to be and that they're capable of responding gracefully. Here we are a couple of years later. SSPX behaved exactly how you'd expect a prideful schismatic group to behave.
>>538209605>clearly a schismatic actWhy hasnt the pope excommunicated the Chinese church then for picking their own bishops?
>>538209516>"The Pope is infallible, everything he says is the word of God!" >Catholic church gets taken over by gay race communists >"God is a gay race communist now, and you have to believe me or I'll excommunicate you lol" Sola Scriptura chads keep winning
>>538215345The power doesn't come from the Church.
>>538210531>14 posts>I really don't care tho trust me!!!Jog on, zigger
>>538215345>Sola ScripturaThis is an absurd position to take. Not only is it contradicted in the Bible itself, but the scriptura didn't just drop out of the sky readymade. The canon was compiled by the Church. Which part in the Bible tells you which books belong in it? Taking the sola scriptura position means you checkmate yourself instantly.
>>538209516A new heretical sect of protestantism is born. Enjoy speaking in tongues I guess.
>>538209516>communist pope does communist things
>>538215995
>>538215345>No, no pope of Rome>No chapels to sadden my eyes>No nuns and no priests>No rosary beads>And every day is the 12th of July
>>538215953The point is you can read the dead sea scrolls for yourself and see if there's anywhere where it says "gay communist pedophile nigger-worshipers are great and God wants you to do what they say". When you tolerate extra-biblical "conventions", when you allow a mortal man to call himself the infallible voice of God on earth you leave the door open to exactly what papists have endured since 1945. Man is fallible, the Pope is a man, and I must confess to deep doubts about whether he actually literally has conversations with God in which God tells him that white girls being gang-raped by Muslim Paynim shitskinned demon-worshiping subhuman zuttsluts is Mete and Just. This fucking faggot communist Pope, who is an antichrist btw, even said there is no such thing as a just war. This contradicts 2,000 years of papist doctrine BUT HES INFALLIBLE SO ITS THE WORD OF GOD NOW LMAO we went over this shit ad nauseum 500 years ago and you people just doubled and tripled down. Now the only difference between the Catholic church and liberal mainline protestant sects (who also abandoned the doctrine of Sola Scriptura btw) is celibate priests, I.e. the reason so many priests are gays and pedophiles which life of detestable sin naturally and inexorably leads them to become Baphomet-worshiping race communists like this pope and the last one. They pick the cardinals btw so the Catholic church is now permanently an institution of gay race communism unless you do some kind of "reformation", if you will
>>538215953As Pope Benedict XVI said, every generation is a thousand pens writing the newest pages of the Gospel.You'd best start believing in holy books - you're in one (in God's library).
>>538215147>Why hasnt the pope excommunicated the Chinese church then for picking their own bishops?Because that would be racist.
>>538209516Didn’t weird factions knock off popes all the time back in the day? Why don’t these factions fight each other anymore.
>>538216597Napoleon and Geribaldi put an end to that.
>>538209660A priori they don't have the authority, regardless if it's the Prefect Martin or even the Pope, to declare this excommunicatuon to the laity as a whole; per the Canon Law they must analyse each layman, case by case.
>>538216764There's not that many of them. They could get through all the excommunications in an afternoon.
