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Ex-lefties of pol, what happened to make you change?
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conservative socialist here

i prefer ex rightoids to some (many) leftoids

switched for obvious reasons.
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the moral of the story is i like all my countrymen left or right

quite a lot.
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>>538216435
The racial traits of non-Europeans:
1) Existentially distressed by space, quiet, privacy & nature itself.
2) Compelled to degrade and over-populate any habitat into a wasteland of environmental disaster.
3) Lie and deceive to no end, making each interaction a zero-sum game if not a negative-sum game.
4) Perceive everything as a matter of social status, which they seek to humiliate others with.
5) Traditions and pastimes are synonymous with conspicuous consumption.
6) Breed out of spite and only care for their kin in a performative fashion.
7) Adept at rote learning, mimicry & imitation for a convincing but false appearance.
8) Socially rebound between feigned humility, begging for acceptance & delusional gloating.
9) Their ambition and narcissism are matched only by their incompetence.
10) Diligent insofar as to make problems and propose ways to hide them, enabling maldevelopment under the guise of success.
11) Claim superiority by immiserating conditions to the point where participation only makes life worse.
12) Conflate the disgust mechanism with insecurity or a pathological complex.
13) Default position on anything is relativistic cruelty justified by contrived grievance.
14) Project what they are guilty of onto White people as every negative accusation they make is a confession.
15) Incapable of empathy yet demand and exploit empathy to elicit guilt and avoid extermination.
*Furthermore, degenerate Whites adopt such traits against other Europeans.

Upon infiltration, a single non-White, be it African, Asiatic or Jewish, will seek to establish a personable reputation among the host population. Hence, they indulge token virtue as a façade for ulterior hostility while increasing their numbers and influence. The passive-aggressive types use subterfuge while their immoderate brethren use overt force, either of which claim to not represent them in general as they uphold plausible deniability and impose tolerance; for they all seek the death of Europeans.
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>>538216435
Better uniforms.
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>>538216909
You wore this one out a bit. Brevity is the soul of wit
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>>538216435
I’m just a left-chud now
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>>538216699
recent years have made me realize I’m just an antisemitic leftist, if anything.
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>>538216909
These are just traits of poor people
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>>538216435
Hey OP, viewing politics on a single spectrum is dumb and represents a stunted comprehension. Don't do it.
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Having ever been a lefty is the ultimate litmus test. If you’ve ever been a leftist you either are a midwit or don’t have the political instincts that would justify you being involved in politics at all. It should be illegal for current or former leftists to even vote.
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Moved to MAGA country. Found out they're just normal people after all.
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Breadtubers.
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>>538216435
White hate and man hate
>Worker’s rights are fucked. (Feminism is part of this)
>the economy is fucked for retarded reasons
>despite trying to appeal to me, the republicans are blatantly malicious and only want me to die for israel
>I really don’t care if dumb sluts get purely elective abortions. They can be ghoulish; not like I can stop every insane person from being insane anyway
But the whole woke phase was just insane. If anything, I am kicked out of liberalism. Everything is for the priority of some other group than me. When everybody gets “high priority” over your “regular priority”, that is literally just you being low priority and gaslighted about it.
The dems are “correct” on several key issues but they hate me and I’m not aligning with that. Now they’re going around saying it never happened in the most obnoxious of tones. They accuse me of being faux-news propagandized into believing it happened instead of acknowledging me as a real person.
>I fucking WANTED to agree with you, you goddamn dumbfuckin’ass trannies!
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>>538216953
>Brevity is the soul of wit
>compresses all of non-White existence within the 2000 character limit >>538216909
>claims it lacks brevity
Reading comprehension musn't be taught to non-Whites like yourself anymore. Why bother.
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>>538217210
Woke is entirely a Liberal effort, just a lot of socialist types are totally subservient to the Liberal elite, thinking either they can “slowly” achieve their goals through the liberal political process, or just out of naivety.
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my gf cheated on me with multiple men, most of them arabs
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>>538216435
A tranny gave me syphillis
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>>538216435
Realized lefties were cringe in my 20s
Realized righties we’re just as cringe in my 30s
Wisdom is realizing the boring status quo centrists were right all along.
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>>538216435
Like all smart people I supported right wing Liberals like Hillary and Carney due to their neoliberal empirical approach.
AI changed things sadly, as I now support the singularity and accelerationism. This puts me in king edge lord Theils camp, and after 12 years of hating and laughing at how retarded Trump was I back him for his support of AI.
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>>538216435
I grew up.
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>>538216435
the left and right swapped places
at least culturally
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>>538216435
I realized the holocaust was a lie
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>>538216435
I was an ex leftist for almost 10 years until I realized you guys were all selling bullshit
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>>538216435
>what happened to make you change
Mass migration... or rather, genocidal ethnic replacement
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>>538217262
You got good feedback for it because most people here are mediocrities. It doesn't come close and is the wrong angle
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>>538217308
The most ridiculous part, looking back, is that I probably could have accepted the faggot/PoC/feminism woke-talk if it didn’t always come with the package of “White people are BAD and everything is their fault. White men are the worst because reasons and misrepresentations of history. Also men are bad in general.”
I got shat on too hard. As far as I can tell, I’m not supposed to be there or vote with them. It’s fucking kindergarten shit. You fuck with somebody too much and they might not help you later on when you want something unrelatedz
If my choices are consistently faggot republicanism and woke-feminist-fascism, fucking let it burn. They can ask for votes from those they do actually intend to represent.
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>>538216435
> Trayvon Martin incident with obvious media manipulation to blow up the story
> GamerGate (brought me to /v/)
> Trump Derangement Syndrome across the board with so many celebrities (John Oliver)
> 2016 rigging to keep Sanders from winning over Clinton
> Wikileaks emails
> Started learning to invest in 2018
> Obvious manipulation for Covid
> 2020 election results rigging
> found out that Amy Goodman Democracy Now! segment of the migrant caravan wasn't just a one time thing and that it was a full on enterprise of flood the nation with immigrants
> Started working for my dad and realized how awful of decision makers women are and how destructive their bad decisions are for society
> tranny overlords getting me kicked from online communities

I'm still a lefty at heart but I understand their beliefs need to be held on a leash. It's basically the individualism produced by Christianity, but Christianity's restriction and acknowledgement discarded letting it run to the extreme.
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>>538216435
>Men can get pregnant!
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>>538216435
There has to be some reason we can all tell that every person in this photo is a Liberal faggot and I am not just talking about the obvious tranny. Even before seeing it I could tell everyone else in the picture is a far left subhuman and I find that very intriguing.
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>>538221414
They guys all wear s()yface and miss the mark on trying to dress “masculine but non threatening”
Attractive women never have strong political opinions in general so the s()yboys+ugly-chick-handlers says it all.
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>>538217663
same, literally the same type of faggots on both sides of the spectrum acting like they are better and using the same methods while acting that they aren't.
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When I was in college in the early 2000s, being democrat meant being against the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq. A pretty straightforward position given how those things turned out. I took some sociology classes which were focused on niggers, faggots and trannies before those issues became mainstream and knew it was bull shit. At the same time, I had a restaurant job and was exposed to the stupidity of niggers and hispanics. By the time the 2008 financial crisis came around, I embraced the libertarianism of Ron Paul and Peter Schiff. I was tired of voting for libertarians who polled at 3% and voted for Trump in 2016
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>>538216435
jews
you're still a direction brained faggot
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lindsay ellis was cute before she got botox
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>>538224613
It was the abortion
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When everything became fucking retarded in the mid 2010s. The tranny issue and the fact that they were equating common sense immigration policies to nazism made me not want to associate with them anymore.
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>>538216435
the inventions became unimpressive so I found greatness elsewhere
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>>538216435
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>>538216435
It's all corpo left vs corpo right.
The gay shit honestly, sentimental grown up men just gives me creepy manipulative vibes.
You need emotional support from another man? How about you go without like the rest of us, why do you desire closeness from me you wierd fuck.
>Are you gay?
>No
>Are you sure? Like super duper sure? Are you sure you don't wanna try??
Groomer shit.
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>>538216435
I read more.
I thought more.
I engaged in more honest introspection.
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>>538216435
Mushroom trip. I saw things differently and noticed that there were unnatural blind spots in my cognition. I had to think more about what I actually believed and over time the gaps filled.
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>>538216435
Seth Rich + Bernie taking a dive in 2016, followed by pizzagate followed by watching my ENTIRE friend and acquaintance group, all left/liberal just go along with whatever the media was telling them.
It was fucking bizarre.
I had well over 20 years of direct action activism for various left wing causes, giving tons of time and money, beaucoup street cred, but because I didn't buy into the Trump - hate, I was suddenly getting called a right wing extremist.
Seeing how much the media manipulated people, and totally bullshit everyone regarding Seth Rich and pizzagate, I reevaluated everything and started taking a close look at the reasoning of ideas I'd formerly written off.
Especially the holojoax.
Now I'm here.
Forever.

Nice data mining thread, btw, but at this point, I don't give a shit.
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>>538216953
>Brevity is the soul of wit
bitsow
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>>538216435
I discovered that the savages were in fact, savage by an overwhelming count. The talk I gave concerning "morality" was in fact just to fit in with the group, or make myself feel morally superior. Actually interacting with the groups I was defending on the internet, by policing people of the same race no less, could not give less of a damn about me and only saw me as a resource to be exploited and killed.
>>538216909
Basically this. Otherwise, Mama Merkel happened. Considering I was born in Chicago, it was only a matter of time until I put two and two together.
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>>538216699
Same here, used to be ML. Now I'm right-ML.
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>>538216435
The anti white stuff is too much. They will excuse anything non-whites do no matter how inconsistent it is with their usual ideological principles, and overcompensate at points. They are hypocritical and lie under the guise of morality and are obsessed with purity testing. Some of their economic ideas might have merit to some extent, at the least you can debate things like strong unions or the New Deal or expanding social spending or not in the current economic situation, but their social stances are too dogmatic and riddled in self hatred/social signaling
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>>538217119
Found the small minded cunt who wasn't around for the Reagan/Bush years.
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>>538219152
Good summary.
Similar xp anon.
Now we're here forever.
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jewish nonsense
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>>538216435
>Ex-lefties of pol, what happened to make you change?
I didn't fully abandon my leftist views but Troons mostly pushed me out of the Western leftist sphere they are unbearable to be around and support. I didn't want to go along with the pretend shit 99% of troons don't pass and are ugly abominations. I wouldn't be able to be around leftists today having to be a polite liar to feed into troon delusions, early LGBT stuff was not nearly as bad and the troons weren't a big vocal voice during early Obama era. Me leaving the leftist camp doesn't mean I went over to the conservative side I'm just politically homeless. I've adopted conservative views on gun rights, and how I view fags now overall, but I still hate capitalism and I don't hate browns.
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>>538216435
I started out as a leftist by default when I was young, but eventually found most leftists to be cringe. Then I went full Chud right-winger in my mid 20's, only to realize most right-wingers are cringe too. Now I figure that hating everyone is the only reasonable stance in today’s environment.
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>>538222846
>When I was in college in the early 2000s, being democrat meant being against the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq.
>A pretty straightforward position.
In the 70s and the Reagan/Bush years, it was the right that was doing all the fuckiest shit. That followed the Vietnam war shenanigans which was mostly supported by conservatives. Conservatives were linked most to the MIC, as well as being most likely to support all the fucky CIA shit in the 50s and 60s.
Also, the worst environmental degradation in the 50s through 80s was caused by companies staunchly supported by conservatives and the right.
The right was also very pro authoritarian throughout the 50s - Iraq war. The worst abuses of power bycops and 3letter agencies during the drug war were strongly supported by the traditional right.
It was simply more humane and just to identify with the left from the 60s to the early 2010s.
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>>538216435
data about how empathy is result of IQ and IQ statistics
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There is no such thing as lefties or righties dumbass newfags. In America you are allowed to straight up buy elections, including bribing your opponent to not run, and such bribery continues to this day. None of these people are fucking socialists or capitalists.
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>>538232692
>Me leaving the leftist camp doesn't mean I went over to the conservative side
Ditto.
"I didn't leave the party. The party left me."
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> grew up lolbert
> experienced the real world
> realized the framers were completely right
> only land owning (primarily) white men are remotely "morally or logically consistent" enough to have voting rights or engage in the economy
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>>538233437
Based and unfortunately rarely articulated take
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>>538216435
2020
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>>538216435
I came here to give you nazis a piece of my mind but it turns out that you make some really good points that I hadn't considered.
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>>538216953
He beautifully illustrated his point.

You just said some 'g'day mate, that's not a knoife.' shit.
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>>538216909
Seems to me that's just a projection of your ugly, hateful soul.
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>>538217049
>I’m just an antisemitic retard
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>>538216909
/thread
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>>538216435
I came across one of those Hitler Did Nothing Wrong threads and I started asking myself whether he really did anything wrong.
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>>538235067
Crazy when one genuinely looks into it.
History is written by the winners.
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>>538216435
I used to be a shitlib. My politics evolved through the entire gambit from naive lefty who thinks we should have free healthcare, UBI, and student loan forgiveness, to a tax paying live and let live libertarian, to a father and husband of far right eugenics European supremacy, only to realize all secular politics lead to the same cycle of death, conflict, and despair. Only through the rejection of sin, living as deigned by our Lord and the fathers of His holy Apostolic church can we build lasting peace. I am not a, "christcuck" as the only people who utter that in contempt are Zio-shill rape rats. God placed the nations where they shall be and gave the European the calling to bring Christendom into the new world. Times of spacial expansion have changed, and it has become our divine commandment to purge our nation of heretics and stand firm on our borders with love for our true neighbor, kindness for the visitor, and the strength to dole harsh punishment to those who bring harm to our people. We must persevere against evil, and only by living our lives for the Lord can we hope to build lasting peace.

Christianity is not a cucked religion. It's a faith that has been dogged by demons since before our Lord walked this Earth, a faith whose church struggles with sin because it is an institution of man reaching for Theosis. True Christianity means zero immigration from the turd world, zero tolerance of crime, no divorce, no sexual degeneracy, a man who takes a virgin must take her as wife and she must serve their house until death. It means zero tolerance for heresy against our Lord.

I have no political party, I scarcely have a church, as Orthodoxy struggles with its own demons, but I do have Christ. My change is toward the temporal, recognizing the value that heavily constrained liberalism has, but the ultimate goal being a house which withstands the ravages of time, adapts to a changing political and natural world, and builds a lasting nation.
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>>538216435
i saw these 2 amazing posts and my whole life turned around from whiney leftist to macho right winger kek
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>>538236349
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>>538217060
Non whites are poor for a reason
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>>538233742
>*Furthermore, degenerate Whites adopt such traits against other Europeans.
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>>538216909
Based
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>>538216435
Covid-19/BLM/Antifa times.

And the Joe Biden election and presidency vs Trump presidency made me see that who the president is, really does matter whereas I used to think they were all the same and it didn't matter.
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>>538232484
I could write a dissertation on this site's opening formalities of telling each other to kill themselves and flinging of nigger/faggot/chinkspic/[your ethnicity] slur lead to high quality discussions that simply aren't available in other online communities.
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i tasted jewish cock and i've been a conservative every since
give it to me
give me the precious cock
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>>538216435
Was I the only one who thought of picrel?
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>>538239240
It's entertaining how the slurs and vulgarity lead to legit discussions and weed out the unserious.
... you fucking retard gorilla nigger faggot :)
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>>538239489
This one too.
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>>538216435
I was curious about Holocaust Deniers, after researching deeply, I realised I was wrong about everything.
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Anchor baby who grew up in the deep blue hood. Used to be liberal until the online discourse that started under Trump helped me see reality.

Parents fled the cold war in El Salvador and eventually became citizens. But my dad was a textbook 3rd world savage who brought their regressive ways to the first world. Woman, animal and child abuser. I was not allowed to attend uni/join the military/have a social life/go anywhere because he believed a woman's place is at home. We'd have company over while he beat my mom. Locked himself in a room to beat our childhood puppy. Put on our knees holding tires and whipped with ropes. Metal belts. I tried going over a friend's house after school once and got punished.

What happens to a young woman who is already damaged, then robbed of freedom and choices? I got pregnant at 22 by an equally monstrous man. Clawed my way into a career $$ eventually. I am 37 now and never got married.

I hate the man0sphere because they never account for cases like this. When a girl becomes a single mom not because she was a stupid whore, but from deep dysfunction carried out by a man who literally embodies their beliefs.

My 3 brothers were beat and bloodied worse, self esteem pecked away until their teen years. Now they are shut ins who never had girlfriends. One decided to be homeless after our dad almost ripped his ear off. Our bloodline came here to die, perhaps rightfully so.

Experienced the low IQ blacktivities firsthand. Somebody was always getting jumped, got our sh!t stolen regularly. The hatred of white people was palpable. DC area public schools made sure to drill the victimhood in. Went to great lengths for my son to go private.

I now see white people are not the problem. They are responsible for the infrastructure and model of governance I was lucky to be born into.I used to hate the colonizer Spaniards but now think they were based for trying to eradicate filth from an entire hemisphere. Filth like my father.
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>>538216435
Gamergate -> Mass migration to EU & simultaneous mass terrorism events -> The great tranny-ing of American culture (officially delisting it as a mental illness for purely political reasons, crackdowns on social media) -> Bernie getting fucked over by Dems -> Lefties going insane during & after 2017 Trump election -> Extreme crackdown on speech across all social media sites & general suppression of non-liberal opinions almost universally online -> BLM -> literally everything else since

tl;dr a chain of extreme event after event + lefties radicalized me; especially their intolerance for differing views or even listening/debating opinions they disagree with and using social ostracization rather than logic or facts as their primary means of combatting political enemies

Used to browse /v/ back in the day, was an atheist, science classes were my favorite, liked reading Darwin for example (now ironically looked at critically by leftists), the works

I'm American-born btw though I've been living for many years in Germany now. I still have socialist tendencies (still don't believe in going into lifetime debt just to not die), but am mature enough now to see that there ARE genuine downsides to concepts like universal healthcare, and certain things just cannot translate well into American society without radical changes.
Americans for example have extremely high rates of health issues, and the main issue imo has to do more with a sedentary lifestyle forced upon most Americans by chunking cities into sprawling zones, than it has to do with dietary excesses (though that's an issue too).
And social programs for example are already being abused by hispanics and especially blacks, so imagine any expansion to said programs.
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>>538241872
I forgot to add a major point:
Intersectionality
The normalization of hate toward whites & men, without any leftists seeing the irony or contradictions, whilst simultaneously propping up blacks, LGBT, etc. in an almost religious ecstasy to the point where they've been about to, as groups, get away with almost anything.
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>>538217663
>Wisdom is realizing the boring status quo centrists were right all along.
Midwit take.
First of all it isn't "leftists" or "righties" that are cringe necessarily, it's when normies flock to organized centers of these groups, classify themselves under their political banners (e.g., Democrat/Republic/AfD/Greens), identify themselves with other supporter, and adopt a political organization's opinions almost wholeheartedly, because most normies are seemingly unable to think for themselves.
Most well-known high IQs who have written anything worth a damn are skeptical of both sides, but they usually go even more extreme in one direction or another because centrism is probably even worse than being a retarded normie on one political "side" or another.
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>>538241669
You're a very unlikely demographic for 4chan, how did you even find yourself on here?
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When the Russian/Ukraine war began and lefties on reddit started demanding we triple our military budget. I thought we were anti-war. They were also pushing the narrative that it happened in a complete vacuum and absolutely refused to acknowledge that there might have been events or history that lead up to this moment. It wasn't about taking one side or another, but just blindly accepting the mainstream US talking points as the gospel. Those were the two main things. There was also calling anything that remotely pushed against leftist narratives as russian bots and seeing how many people claimed Russia was collapsing every single week. Actually, another big one was the accusation of people parroting "Russian talking points", but you know, never calling it lies. Up to that point I didn't really pay attention to politics.
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>>538232692
So is that guy an Italian or something?
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The left swapping worker's rights and equality for neo-liberalism.



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