>At a training centre run by the 425th Separate Assault Regiment - also known as 'Skelya' - at least 25 Ukrainian soldiers have died in the past six months, with many of the bodies showing signs that they had been beaten and that medical care was delayed. >Her investigation revealed what appeared to be a systematic mistreatment of Ukrainian troops by their supposed brothers-in-arms, who allegedly keep them in prisoner-of-war-style camps surrounded by mines and guards with automatic weapons. >Babel reported that members of Skelya, an assault unit, regularly torture and beat other members to death. >A witness told the outlet that high-ranking members often referred to new recruits as 'disposables.'>They are also allegedly made to fight each other for the entertainment of others. >Kateryna Lykhohliad, a reporter with Ukrainian media outlet Babel, said the true figure was likely higher. >Arkadiy, a resident of the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, told the Times that he had been forced into Skelya, despite being exempt from military service on medical grounds and because he is a key worker.>He said: 'It’s like being a prisoner. The perimeter is mined and there are drones overhead. Even when you go to the latrine, a guard armed with an automatic weapons escorts you there.'>Semenov said he knew of at least nine cases in just four days where soldiers had been driven to take their own lives.>In one horrific case, a soldier - named as Maksym Skipa - took his own life after he was beaten so badly his face turned 'black and blue.'https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15947039/Ukrainian-regiment-tortured-beat-soldiers-death.html
>>538217271That means ukraine is winning.
>>538217271>jews will do this to every western country when they’re done with it or need it emptied
Aren't there thousands of this type filmed and documented in Russia, at least in Ukraine they might get some justice.
>>538217271They voted for jewlensky they have to deal with it.
If Ukrainian soldiers are either dead or unwilling to fight why can't Russia defeat them
>>538217402Jews make the conditions, but it's your neighbors that will do this to you. More than 80% of the population will comply with genocide. COVID should have been a wakeup call for what really lies inside the normie.
It is now obvious to me. The Russians are the good guys.
Yeah, sure. I believe you, (((ruski poster))).
>>538217271>get drafted>be given gun>kill your entire squadronSee that's what you're supposed to doIf these new "recruits" started slaughtering their fellow soldiers then maybe the Ukrainiggers would stop snatching them off the streetThis is why despite being the invader Russia has always had the moral highground, and I say this as someone born in Canada's largest Ukrainian community
>>538217271>Following the publication of Babel's investigation, the state said it was looking into the allegations. >Oleksandr Syrskyi, Ukraine's commander-in-chief, described the claims as 'shameful', adding that criminal cases have now been opened. >So far, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has not commented on the matter. and Ukraine's own commander says he will investigate after this report came out
>>538217271Wtf xD
>>538217271why don't people ever resist and try to take people to hell with them?they kind of deserve if it they don't do anything
>>538217674>>538217820According to one survivor you have drones and armed gunman monitoring you until you get sent to 'meat-grinder' combat.
>>538217674This is why they don't give the recruits guns until they're already in enemy territory.
>>538217820lol
Oh no, we must immediately stop aid to Ukraine, and surrender to mighty russia.
>>538217475> at least in Ukraine they might get some justicekek
>>538217957>>538217925you two are still talking about living and survivingI said take them to hellas in die with theminstead of just killing yourself and dying alone or waiting for them to kill you
>>538217271Is this what winning looks like? GEG Meanwhile Russia is winning with sentenced criminals and steppe mongoloids from yakutsk or whatever the fuck
Is the discord shill farm here to defend Ukraine yet?
>>538218114They're busy in this thread now >>538213528Cut them some slack
>>538217271sooo uhm... how does doing any of that help you win the war?
>>538217507You have been told over and over and over again that Putin and Zelensky are both owned by the same pack of genocidal race supremacists. The purpose of this conflict is purely to kill young Russian and Ukrainian men.
>>538217475>Ukraine>justiceAnon... they dont even have elections and get thrown into a drone video for posting burning shit in kyivvvvvv
>>538217629Wait, isnt ukraine the jew nation?
>>538218068The men being taken by force for the draft still have families+friends. The still have something to live for.
>>538217271Damn that’s crazy haha
>>538217947>be in enemy territory>get the gun>rooty toot scoot shoot the officers and desert>shoot anyone trying to stop youDang, foiled by a little timing.
>>538218379did you miss the part where they are KILLING THEMSELVES
>>538218008>t. Oinkranian oligarchs son in Lucerne
>>538217271>jewish nation that kidnaps men from the street, throws them in a gulag and beats them to death if they don't go out and fight for zelensky's shekelshope russia nukes it tbf
>>538217271In Russia that's normal and there are no consequences for it.Anyway>at least 25 Ukrainian soldiers have died in the past six monthsUkrainians might want to take a closer look if the leaders of this unit are even working for Ukraine and if their family members might not have inexplicable wealth.
>>538218249>You have been told over and overHe is one of them.
>>538217695>and Ukraine's own commander says he will investigate after this report came out>whereupon he will find that these reports are completely unsubstantiated and must of course be just more Russian propaganda
>>538217530Ain't that the truth. Here in Australia I used to think "migration is bad but we're gonna make it" now I think "fuck these traits replace them immediately please"
>>538218623Traitors*
>>538217820You best remember that thinking.
>>538218460They have zagradotryads (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zagradotryad)
>>538217271Why don't more ukrainian and russian soldiers simply frag their officers if they're treated badly?I assume the whole squad would agree.
>>538217530True. I don't trust my own people at all.
>>538218008Nobody's asking India to do anything though, Pratyuksh
>>538218748Why would Russians frag their own? They are there voluntarily.
>>538217674I've read they just point and say go that way for twenty minutes and then they'll meet up with their group and get a gun. And saying fuck it and moving back somehow doesn't work, since the entire area behind them is mined and filled with dudes who shoot on sight.
>>538218780Wasn't there at least one mobilization in 2022?
>>538217351>when you have to beat and torture the men you press-ganged and forced to the frontline to keep them from running away, you've won
>>538217271Do not look up the Tornado battalion that practised homosexual gangrape in West Ukraine in 2014 onwards.During the 2022 war they got released again. Everything Ukrs say about Russia is projection.
>>538217271>The regiment "Skala" and Syrski being a soviet dumbfuck finally made it to the western mediaUkroids will claim it's a lie and you are a zigger shill
>>538218483Only out of absolute despair you dumb fucking faggot.
>>538217271
>>538218068They don't give you anything to potentially kill them with until they are a safe distance away and you'll be droned if you try to come back. All you'll be doing is elaborate suicide where they gun you down if you so much as walk towards them and then piss on your corpse.
>>538219010It's a soviet method of keeping the morale up and both Ukraine and Russia are soviet to the core.What do you expect.Now think how realistic is the prospect of UA joining NATO in a short time with a shit like this everywhere behind the scenes.
>>538219058doesnt look like itpic relboth clearly have problems
>>538218008this would unironically be by far the best choice as far as hohols are concerned, but we all know that they khazars are trying to get rid of all the slavs from the region, so we wind up with retarded assholes like you here shilling for the globalist takeover of the world
>>538217674That would have worked at the start of the war, now it's too late.
>>538218460Again they cover that. No officers to shot. They bring the recruits out at gun and drone point and tell them to march 20 minutes forward until they run into their other recruits and gun and ammo stations, then take their guns and move forward until they hit Russian gunfire. And that they'll shoot anyone who attempts to go the other way. The only option is to go forward and get killed by the Russians, turn around and get killed by the Ukraine officers before every getting within range to shoot them, or just kill your fellow recruits and/or suicide which either way they don't care because they expect them to die anyway
Look on the upside OP, not everyones falling for it. Several of those van kidnappers have been stabbed, shot and a couple where killed by grenade. Additionally there's rumors drones have even hit the vans.Personally I'm amazed nobody's shot the coke head pretending to run the show.
>>538217271>Noooo!! They are "the good russians" noooooooo
>>538217925You do understand a thumb in the eye is really really useful?Pops out quite easily in fact.Theres also a saying about it, but if your other option is death, the world can do with a few more blind fellas
The crimes against the Ukrainians committed by Western warhawks, arms dealers, globalists and all of their ilk will never heard. No justice will be served for the poor men dragged off of the streets, out of their homes, to be fed into the meat grinder.
>>538218542Russia is one of the only places that takes in male refugees from Ukraine.>>538218748NATO special forces are over there under various legally camouflaged roles. Relatively small, heavily armed and elite groups can control big populations of young men.There actually have been older men specifically killing major recruiters and the street-grabbers actually get swarmed and attacked quite frequently. Like regular people will all just rush in to defend the guy and fight off the grabbers.
>>538217475>at least in Ukraine they might get some justice.Ukraine is basically an albino African country if you just look at corruption
>>538218068Alternatively they can just surrender to the Russians. Russia has a huge population of Ukrainian refugees now. Also, what you're describing is a very hardened older male mentality that is still not really there for younger guys. There's like, dumb youth bravery that may have been killed off or may have already fled. A lot of people freeze as opposed to fight or flee. As another anon said, they have something to live for, especially the young.
>>538217507The war is fought by drone operators. The normal infrantry is just there to be targets and occupy frontlines. They in many cases dont have guns or bullets, so they wouldnt murder men bringing them there. Ukrainian drone operators kill all who try to flee or surrender. Plus the paranoia those drone sounds bring keeps troops hidden. From sound you wont know if its friendly or enemy, so you hide. And all attempts to surrender to a drone operator is futile. The main reason why ukrainians publish snuff drone films is to make the russians angry and do revenge. This makes ukrainians in the frontlines even more unwilling to try to contact russians for surrender. Of course there are motivated ukrainians but they are used in actual counter strikes and operations. Those who are kidnapped and abused heavily will only used to occupy frontlines as drone targets. They litterally want to feed ukrainians frontliners to russian drone operators, because that way they try to backtrace drone movement to the russian drone operators. So of course they will send those that they abuse to die like that, so if this war is ever over they wont be seeking revenge.
>>538219275braindead
>>538217271During WW2 a drafted American soldier was considered a sack of shit by his fellow soldiers. Times are a changing.
>>538217376MacGregor's a total imbecile who goes on naive youtubers geopolitics channels and tells them the sky is falling when clearly Nothing Ever Happens.
>>538220178Makes sense, if Russians do this shit there's no reason the ukies wouldn't either given their impressment gangs.
>>538217271Its one giant fake war to ritualistically sacrifice people, specifically male white euros. Its insane that their own people either cant realize this, or just dont care. This is how powerful the controllers of our world are. They can manipulate all news narratives. Make the idiots think whatever they want. Pretending like Putin is separate from any other world power. Its best to use the time you have for positive things, because they have plans for all of us, and its not going to be like this forever. Enjoy your time while you have it. And stop worrying about things way above your paygrade. You will never change anything, even if you died for it.
>>538217674You will not be given a loaded weapon until deployed to the front, under watchful eye of your own sides drone operators.
>>538217271Wait, I thought Ukraine are le good guys?
>>538217271Its more and more showing me that the only people with a soul and empaty are white europeans. Excluding psycopaths who are everywhere in small numbers.But come on, ukrainians and russians do the same shit, torture each other, dont feel anything while doing it. Cant comprehend that they can also be tortured and the pain its causing is useless. What fucking fools are all people except white europeans that are not phycopaths. So most white people
>>538220702Nafoids (rebranded neocons (rebranded trotskyites)) condone this
>>538220724Yeah, pretty eye opening. South slavs don't seem as bad though, less exposure to the crippling misery the (((bolsheviks))) inflicted on Russia/Ukraine/etc. maybe.
>>538220516>Its insane that their own people either cant realize this, or just dont care.they have lost their humanity. ukraine's military is like a country wide stanford prison experiment with every guard being dirlewanger tier banderite.
>>538217271wow that article is just sad to readit's history repeating itselfand people think we can't have intentional mass killings like all the ww2 atrocities anymore, oh no no no no. it's only a matter of time
>>538220724Russia dosn't do this, this is because zelensky is jewish, and putin is White
>>538218748There are always a couple of traitors. You never know if some dogooder would suddenly point his rifle at you and try and 'take you in for questioning", or whatever..
>>538217507
>>538221809Russia having rape as normal punishment in the army is a bit of a tell tale, right?And what about the torture and rape of that texan that went to help russian army and being raped and murdered by russians because they (((didnt trust him)))They’re barbarians
>>538224605>They’re barbariansDude, come to America if you want to see real barberism
>>538224605You're mentally ill moron that just laps up the lowest form of propaganda.Neither does Russia have that, nor was the Texan ever raped, that was a claim put forth by the twitterer Nexta, run by a Pole. Texas was killed by a donezk criminal gang.Who practised gay rape are Ukrainian, verifiably. See the Tornado Battalion and that fat fuck who got excited in Odessa, who was raping drafteesEverything satanic propaganda vlaims is projection.
>>538221809Shelemova
>>538220447Except for the fact MacGregor predicted exaclty how this war would go down 30 fucking years ago.>But Macgregor's scenario included caveats. He forecasted that despite advances in deep-strike missiles, close-up ground fighting would continue to be a critical factor in the outcome of the war. And his chapter contained a warning to those who would become overly dependent on technology: "In the right hands, modern military technology increases the American Armed Forces' ability to diminish its adversary's capacity for independent action, but in the wrong hands it cannot compensate for the absence of human insight, understanding, or effective leadership. This is because technological advances cannot eliminate ambiguity, uncertainty, chance, and the forces of chaos from the field of conflict."
>>538217376two more weeks until jews complete converting ukraine into israel 2.0.
>>538224844I think you're seriously under-estimating slavs
>>538219672>>538218745>get forced into van by people who are supposed to be on your side>get "trained" with no real guns>get forced to frontline by people who are supposed to be on your side>everyone else on your side had the same thing happen>the only other people you interact with in your unit are victims too>if you shoot them, its like shooting another hopeless victim hostage version of you>you guys are all meat for the grinder nowWTF? this is apocalyptic shit. Like something you would expect from the Fallout universe but it's happening IRL.People forced into service, Compliance troops, Officers outside the battlefield. Satan himself couldn't come up with a worse idea to punish good people.
>>538225343Every ukrainian of fighting age is currently hiding in his attic from the jews. How are they supposed to have any kind of industry?
>>538218327>kyivvvvvvUm, sweaty, its Kyiviyivviyvvi
>>538219431That's a lot of layers of barbed wire. This is a male genocide which will soon be practiced in the west.
