how much of a shithole would it have been if it survived?
>>538227295would have been the blacked capital of the world
>>538227295all your defense contractors and nuke silos are in the South, dumb Yankee.
Ultimately we would’ve Holocausted all the blacks
it would have been much worse honestly. the northerners were right to stop them but they didn't go far enough with the punishment
>>538227463The nuke silos are in ND, NE, and MT retard-kun
>>538227295It would have fallen apart from internal conflict after the war ended. The only thing keeping the confederacy together was their hate for the north.
>>538227295It would've become Haiti 2 in less than a generation.
>>538227711The entire space race was won in facking Alabama
>>538227529>muh le tnd memeLmao, it would have turned into a South Africa-tier society, where Blacks were the majority and Whites were the minority holding power. One day, slavery would have ended, and your entire fucking society would have turned into a shithole.
>>538227795>AlabamaIsn't that the us state that competes with Muslims in the incest race ?
>>538227295If they expelled the Jews they could have had a Spanish Golden Age. But Jews ran the slave shipping companies and Judah P. Benjamin ran their currency so that wasn't going to happen. Jews also loaned money to the Union. Playing both sides like usual. Which Kike outfit are you paying to pretend anyone other than Kikes wants to re fight the Civil War? Is that the kind of group that DOGUE should shut down?
>>538227795But not by local Cletus types. They had to import talent - same with Duke, Vandy, WashU - they all recruit from the coasts.
>>538227295The South is so bad the North killed 360,000 of its own people to bring it back in at gunpoint and they still simultaneously declare this a good thing while saying the South sucks to this day.
>>538227295The south shall rise again. Lincoln was a tyrant just like Trump.
>>538227795Most of the research happened in Cali (the north), much of the testing was done in Washington (the state), the material mined and processed in Colorado (the north), the bombs are stored in the north.I thought everyone knew this?
>>538227463You don't know anything about the US, Mahmood. The nukes are in the North.
Civil war was not about slavery, anyone who says otherwise is a liar that has been duped by modern historians and zoomer popcorn youtube channels
Initially wealthy briefly, but abolishing slavery would eventually happen, then it would become a nigger-infested shithole.
>>538228163The South probably would have forcibly booted them to Africa in that scenario though. From ending slavery to school integration, every pro-negro change had to be coerced onto them by the US federal government.
>>538227661Why would they extinct white southerners and replace them with negroes and Indians? That would have caused England and France to reinvade and claim huge parts of the country. The Union wasn't fresh after four years of heavy fighting and about three hundred thousand dead soldiers. The South was in shambles, limping along. People like you would puke if someone suggested replacing the Scotch Irish with Germans. So you would have needed to bring more negroes and Indians to the territory of the conquered south. But those supposed superior beings don't just take orders from wannabe John Brown's like you. You don't know that because you only interact with buck broken modern equivalents. The non whites you lust so madly over will disobey you the second they see what a Jew and or white pipsqueak you really are. And if you try to run a game on them they won't go easy on you unless they fear strong white men. This is why Lincoln and Johnson relentlessly advocated for better treatment of white southerners after the war.
>>538227978For real. The South was and is a critical productive interior of the US economy. The Northern and seaboard cities are primarily consumers. One can function just fine without the other. The eventual consequence of an independent CSA would likely be the South becoming marginally richer, while the North would be equally poorer. By some cruel irony the libs would've gotten more equality.Slavery was on the way out until the war started up again and needed indentured hands to produce iron pots and mess kits. Sharecropping had vastly out-stripped slavery in terms of productivity for years. Plantations didn't have to provide for sharecroppers, police them, or chase down escaped farm equipment. If someone's home, food, happiness, and livelihood depends on their participation in the workforce, they're a willing slave. >>538227949I'd say culturally the South had way more of a libertarian philosophy but it allowed the kikes to dictate a lot of the social sphere, while the North was more of a WASP legacy of old-money which shared the table with the kike. The kike had infected both societies but it was surely the hand of the kike that moved the CSA toward secession, and the kike's hand that moved the Union toward literally invading their neighbor's cities and burning them to the ground.
>>538228462you voted for the biggest israeli lover this century anon and will go down in infamy for it. this is what im talking about. if we had just strung up all the southerners by their throat-necks then you guys wouldn't be around now to bleet about one thing while doing the opposite
>>538228741Someone needs to cut your funding. You guys are out of control. But you don't like discussions about how currency is created and distributed by way of spending bill to organizations like yours. Someone should really tell the Confederate descendants how that game works.
>>538227295oh look, another anti-white meflaggot thread
>>538227295Fuck man, so much better
>>538227295How much is the SPLC paying you?
>>538227410fpbp
>>538227295Wakanda but white, Whitekkkanda if you will.
>>538227295If the south won slavery would continue for a couple of more decades until they are either pressured internationally or industrialized enough to abolish it.It would definitely be a majority negro republic, assuming the Great Migration didn't happen. Maybe the whites would move to the western states to avoid black rule.
>>538227295It would've been the greatest, most powerful, most beloved White Republic in world history. It would have become the New Rome in the same way America was seen to be.Niggers would've been kept in chains as slaves so Whites could be free to pursue the higher arts and sciences, thus furthering our eugenic evolution to supremacy.Christianity (see: Protestantism) would've remained the predominant Christian faith, mostly Episcopalianism, Presbyterianism, Methodism and Baptism. Catholicism would've probably persisted in Louisiana but it wouldn't be the gay shit we have now - none of these religions that are kiked now would be.The success in the war would've solidified Southern, White, Christian identity via a perpetual war/siege society mentality that causes our racial and cultural identity to become a sacred part of daily life and not bumper stickers.There would've been absolutely no enfranchisement of women or Nons and certainly no mass immigration or citizenship; the cheap labor would've been satisfeid by a slave population who would've been ruthlessly controlled by law and eugenics.Also: we were right, 100%, about what would come after us if we lost - see PicRel.
>>538227410How when multiple laws and a cultural mindset against miscegenation existed? In spite of the efforts of the Fed the South held the Color Line for over a hundred years after the Civil War ended.
>>538227727>a society unified against common existential enemies would've just fallen apart apparently
>>538227755How when the Confederacy itself was explicitly founded on White Supremacy? You are fucking retarded. A softer version of the Haitian Revolution is exactly what the Fed instigated here during Reconstruction - which we still resisted and beat for a century.
The South was looted after the war to punish the White Southerners. This screwed over the Blacks who were living there. If the South won and wasn't plundered, Southern Whites would have been better off, obviously. That would have made a better situation for the Blacks if they were freed but that probably wouldn't have happened. The going trend of that time was selling the slaves to another country that still practiced slavery and hiring wage slaves. It was cheaper to do that.
>>538227949>Judah P. Benjamin controlled their currencyYou are a nigger. The dumbest, blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen. First page of Google would tell you which cabinet and government positions Benjamin had and none of them have anything to do with commerce.>Playing both sides like usual.This guy literally was Confederate Spymaster and burned all his documents to keep his network from being found out and punished after the war.If more jews were like Judah P. Benjamin nobody would hate them all. In fact antisemitism remained prominent across the South. The difference is we used to be a civilized race of White people who didn't think in Bugman Racial Science dialectics but still somehow manage to maintain White Supremacy where ironically your more radical and ludicrous position is a constant revolving door of failed regimes and movements.
>>538227295That flag is the greatest in human history and I'm Yankee trash saying that.
>>538228088The Civil War was about slavery and the maintenance of White Supremacy as well as our rights and liberties and that is Based AF.
>>538228501>it allowed the kikes to dictate a lot of the social sphere>some jewish producers signed white artists to record labels so that means all our artistic creations are jewish>can't have you taking credit for your own art goy
>>538227295Wouldnt needed to import mexicans to work the fieldsNiggers would be too tired to commit crimePrisons emptyWhats EBT?Yeah sounds terrible
>>538233260Article I Section 9(4) of the Confederate Constitution, if you would.
>>538227295they would have imported more africans and america would be brazil today
>>538233761They only started hanging blacks after they stopped being slaves. The KKK didn't exist before the Civil War. Without outside help, the slaves would've taken over.
>>538236287>Without outside help, the slaves would've taken over.It was the exact opposite: outside help was required for them to gain power.
>>538235728No it wasn't, it was about fucking money. The south was exporting cotton,tobacco and sugarcane to Europe and making massive amounts of profit taking away from the jews in the north. Also the south was importing products from Europe clothing/textile, furniture,weapons and machinery, ect for pennies on the dollar. A suit or dress from France sold in the south was a hell of alot cheaper than you could get in nigger loving North and then shipping it to the south. Also the machinery that pissed off the jew bankers in the north the most because the south was dependent on the north for refind goods and machinery, they where losing massive amounts of money and a industrialized south would become a threat to them so they twisted the governments arm to do somthing about it. Not to mention the emancipation proclamation was an attempt to collapse the souths revenue from Europe. There's a reason the British where considering joining to help fight the nigger loving yankees.
God Bless The South
>>538227661I know a lot of whites in the north and west who would tell you to go fuck yourself because their cities are full of niggers
>>538236477Ok, retard. You don't know history.
>>538239555How were the slaves going to revolt without Federal help?
>>538227295With or without the northern warcrimes?
>>538227295How much greater if masonic house didn't fuck around, huh?
>>538227295brazil 2>>538227529>we fought an entire civil war to keep our darkies>but we TOTALLY would've gotten rid of them hahadiet cope
>>538239843Because there were more of them, just like in Haiti.
>>538227834This is the only possible outcome. Confederates were fucking retarded. Imagine fighting a war and killing off all your young men just to keep niggers in your country
>>538239929Except that was literally not in the cards you stupid faggot. Colonial Haiti and Deep South America were two totally different places, culturally and in terms of resources. A slave revolt without outside White help would never stand a chance.
>>538228088every single deep south state explicitly gave the defense as slavery as the prime reason they secededthe secession documents are public, you can read them for free online
>>538227859is that figure statistically, or by reddit consensus?
>>538239974>keep niggers in their place and keep them from overrunning the countryFixed that for you.
>>538228088It was and wasn't at the same time. It was primarily about state's rights to self governance, which arose out of the desire to preserve the practice of slavery. The South was right to become skeptical and wary of the rising ability of the Federal government to impose its political will on individual states.
Kinda sucks because the southern aesthetic is amazing but its impossible to talk about it without the stain of slavery fucking everything up.
>>538240097>state's rights to self governance,well that backfired on them, since the confederate federal government was far more active and interventionist in state level politics than the union government was. the confederate constitution forbid any state from passing any laws around the topic of slavery, such a stunning commitment to the doctrine of states' rights!the only thing they cared about at all was protecting slavery as a system
>>538240313As a southerner, yeah I agree with that assessment. I think again the South is still over reliant on effectively slavery instead of mechanizing the farms. Plenty of good agricultural equipment out there and the Federal subsidies for fucking corn or whatever other slop needs to stop and be redirected to modernization efforts.
>>538239028What about the west?
>>538239998Uh-huh, yeah sure, hillbilly.
>>538228462>But those supposed superior beings don't just take orders from wannabe John Brown's like you. Shabbos whites like that numbnuts dipshit genuinely believes that non whites function the same way as whites do just because they can also walk and talk like real people. Back in the day we didn't have smartphones to expose the billions in real time. Non whites run around trying to gain access to white people to fuck with us behind closed doors. These past 10 years have been a steady climb of non white talking animals getting bolder and bolder with their abuse of whites. It's backfired a lot though because the videos captured on smartphones are proof of the abuse. This is inevitably is going to end with some sort of officially white only part of America as every white with a triple digit IQ increasingly refuses to be behind closed doors with anybody that is not some sort of white nationalist.
>>538240666>he South is still over reliant on effectively slaverythe consequences of reconstruction failing are still felt todaythe average southerner today would be so much better off if the north had really occupied the south post war and rebuilt it as a real country instead of a glorified plantation, rather than letting it fester as a quasi-feudal shithole for 150 years
>>538227295It's a double-edged sword. On one side, they would have eventually been dominated by the kikes since they had no protection against them. And by that point they'd have imported millions of niggers and North America would today be Brazil tier. On the other side, it would have been if General Lee didn't honorable surrender, and instead ran off towards the hills and waged asymmetric guerilla insurgency for generations. By the time that conflict was eventually settled and won by his ancestors, they would have zero dependence on nigger slaves, anyhow, so it'd be a pyrrhic victory, or just irony.
>>538239366great migration never would've happened if the south wasn't a jim crow shithole. the freedmen wanted to keep living in the south after the war, they left because the klan and retards like you kept killing them for the crime of having the wrong skin color
>>538241274>they left because the klan and retards like you kept killing them for the crime of having the wrong skin colorSo it works. Well I'll be damned.
>>538240127Slavery is Based and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.
>>538227410kek
>>538227295Theoretically if they "survived" in that they gained access to their pre war goal of California with slavery they would have eclipsed the north economically. Some sympathizing libertarians claim the free trade would have saw them dominate the economic sphere and reabsorb the north through common goals
>>538240095Their place was back in fucking Africa so they could all kill each other instead of us
>>538239974killing off your young men in a war is a modern issue, birth rates used to be high enough there was plenty young men and they would be replaced by next generation if they all died anyway. I think dying to own good black pussy to fuck freely is noble.
>>538227463No. The South would have never won 20th-century world wars fought with tanks, planes, rockets, flame throwers, chain-fed machine guns, battleships, and nukes if they couldn't win a 19th-century war fought with single-shot muzzle loaders and cannons.
You dont have to look far, its kinda similar to what the brits did on jamaica or the french on haiti
>>538242412>So it works. Well I'll be damned.(You)>>538244005>Their place was back in fucking Africa so they could all kill each other instead of usWhite children literally and unironically develop at slower rates whereas the nignogs can be a 6'2 muscle machine at 14 years old because of their genetics. It's child abuse to have white children grow up around non whites because they're not capable of defending themselves while having the muscle disadvantage and guilt trip disadvantage from talking animals that use words almost exclusively as manipulation.
>>538227463Nooks are in Deseret, the Mormon breakaway which we also technically had a civil war to bring back into the country.For some reason we still allow the majority of our missile launch sites to be in Mormon territory.I don’t trust Mormons and I think we should destroy them.>they’re based and WhiteThey aren’t. They are sexual degenerates who allow their women to sleep around and force their boys into inceldom. The girls sleep around all the time, calling it “soaking” and then they marry church elders and literally believe they get a spot in heaven because of it.Mormons should be annihilated. Biggest security risk behind Jews and Asiatics.Our arms industry IS in the South however and the South has a growing economic sector which the North does not.The South today mogs the North unfortunately.Southern Anglos doing business-craft have stolen industry from honest Germanics.When German Pennsylvania overthrew the New England Anglos, Southern Anglos mobilized against us and forced us to de-industrialize at the national level.Mormons are also Anglos.
>>538227295couldn't have been worse than modern america
>>538245638how are Mormons bad if they think that Zion is in America?
>>538245638>Mormons are also Anglos.I had a great time working at a place hired on the spot until the manager saw my krautoid last name and then it's like he became a totally different person towards me. He literally and unironically then asked me about the (((red cross))) numbers for the holohoax out of the blue just to see how I would act in the moment. I used to work there. Anglos are by and large jewjew coom enthusiasts that say they love brownoids but don't care about Palestinian babies getting bombed at the end of the day all of their bullshit is about being king whitey while also serving jews no matter their atrocities. Written in English they gotta go from the political process and stay go.
King cotton. After the Confederacy lost, England began developing other suppliers of cotton, mainly Egypt, but was quite willing to support the breakaway country and keep buying its cotton. -- The black migration north to Chicago and Pittsburgh would have been a problem for the slave-holding south so there's that.
>>538228088States had FEWER rights under the Confederate Constitution, Anon.
>>538246140Anglos have some kind of insanity. Germans and Scandinavians even Italians can be reasoned with. Germans the most fair by far of all races. Most merciful too. Italians are old world self absorbed types, spiritual boomers.Scandinavians like Nords and Swedes are extremely severe and punishing. Very harsh.But overall these people are reasonable.Anglos cannot be reasoned with. Once they get some idea they cannot be swayed. Extremely stubborn people.Part of it pride, part of it being unable to cope with being wrong.
>>538227295>negatice framingkill yourself you leftist commiw faggot.
