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>woman gets into heated argument with a guy
>she pulls out gun and tells him to back off
>he keeps walking towards her
>when he gets too close she shoots and kills him
Is this a valid self-defense claim?
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>>538231649
No.
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>>538231649
yes, and another white dead is a good thing
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>>538231649
>digigulumo
Black on black violence claims another soul
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>>538231649
yes the police do it all the time
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>>538231649
Post the fucking video retard
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>>538231845
The video was boring but probably not a good shoot.
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>>538231649
What behavior was the guy engaging in that caused her to fear for her life, thereby necessitating her using the handgun to defend herself?
>ummm uhhh he was yelling and being loud
Did she escalate the situation by yelling at him too?
>ummm she was scared tho
Yeah, probably not a valid claim.
Look up the killing of Aaron Howard in Texas.
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>>538231649
In some cases pulling out a gun can escalate the situation even more.
Threatening and pointing a gun at him before he charged at her absolutely kills her self-defense claim.
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>>538231649
Floridumb
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>>538231909
Escalation is a bullshit Jewish fairy tale to criminalize self defense.
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>>538231649
>Florida woman
ad it to the list
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>>538231649
Not sure what this thread is sliding but it’s a pretty clear cut case of brandishing on her part. Never, ever pull out a gun unless you are intending to immediately shoot someone with it.
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NO
>ban noggers from gvn ownership
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>>538231649
a couple years ago at a gas station around KC, a nigger was chimping out so a white guy asked him to take it outside. they went outside, the nigger pulled a gun, was disarmed, but then the nigger's female companion picked up the gun and fatally shot the white man in the back. this was ruled a defensive action by the jews
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>>538232005
Go watch the video.
She had her gun out the whole time and was pointing it in his direction.
Also, if she was so scared of him, why didn't she just call the cops instead of yelling at him?
Probably because she knew she was in the wrong for starting the argument and escalating it, and knew that she'd be the one cited or arrested if the cops were to show up.
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>>538231649
Its florida so she'll probably get a medal

In practice though - if you can avoid shooting someone by just walking away then thats the better choice.

In general its retarded as hell to walk toward someone who drew a gun on you.
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>>538232368
>Go watch the video
Post a link at least
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>>538231649
In the soundless video, he appears to behave foolishly
But, it's a fucking nigger, so there is probably more to the story
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>>538231909
Pretty sure he shouldn’t have said the N word
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>>538232368
Wasn’t she also recording the dude while having her gun out? Seems like some pretty typical nigger bafoonery and she should get the electric chair
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>>538231649
>Is this a valid self-defense claim?
No. What actual threat did he present? If her claim of self-defense holds up, killing niggers simply for being out in public should become the national past-time.
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>>538231649
I don’t know if it’s self-defense or what but if someone pulls a gun on you then get the fuck out of there.
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>>538232501
0:15 to 0:35 is the footage from a witness' cell phone and a Tesla

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/woman-fatally-shot-man-during-parking-spot-dispute-at-north-lauderdale-walmart-bso-says/3828094/
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>>538231649
I havent seen the video.with audi but yeah probably he lept approaching her when she had her gun drawn, smoothbrain activity
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>>538231649
They will shout "self-defence" every time they murder someone. It's the new dindunuffin when they know exactly they did everything wrong.
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>>538231649
the vet was looking for an opening to wrestle the gun off her and "accidentally" shoot her. theres no other reason to approach an armed individual while unarmed yourself.
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Global warming happen faster please so Florida sinks
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>>538232501
Better link to video
Starts at 0:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6zr9iFnEA
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video kinda sucks, if she could have left and didnt or talking shit and egging him on then its not realy self defense.
>needs to be afraid of immediate bodily harm
>no duty to retreat but if you are instigating/continuing an argument with your gun out then its less a self defense situation and more of a pissing match
jury will decide, but im betting the DA doesnt even prosecute.the dead guy is an idiot for not going about his business and getting shot by some low rent ratchet.
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>>538232822
Im very racist but if someone pulls a gun and you keep walking towards them thats at least half your responsibility by assuming the other person wouldnt shoot you. Approaching a brown with a gun pointed at you is basically suicide
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if you dont want to be shot by a low-IQ person then dont confront low-IQ people when they do stupid shit.
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>>538231909
>What behavior was the guy engaging in that caused her to fear for her life

Uhh approaching an armed person that is backing away from you? He was close enough that he could've grabbed her gun and turned it around with a lunge.

Sorry, the nigger was in the right. The stupid boomer should have walked away.
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>>538232822
guido said the n-word.
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>>538232996
neither was in the right though; a case of two idiots meeting
>one dead
>the other should go to prison
if the outcome is moron removed from earth and another one in clown college then its a win for society by and large
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>>538231649
No, civvies cannot hold an angry person at gunpoint until they make a sudden move. Only cops can do that.

You became the aggressor when you introduced the firearm into a nonviolent situation.
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>>538233059
Knowing the urbanite community her gun is probably illegal
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hope she gets the chair
this bitch probably wasnt even licensed to have a gun anyway
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>>538231649
I get mad when people park in my spot that I pay for, but not mad enough to shoot them... my solution was I bought a big cone from Home Depot. Yes I have to get in and out of my car an extra time per trip to take it out/put it back into the trunk, but that's just the price I pay for living in a low trust modern society full of narrow minded people. So far so good
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>>538231649
Imagine getting killed by a nigger arguing over a parking space???
This is how you know for a certainty that is reality is fucking pointless and meaningless.
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>>538232743
Shut up, her argument won because the other guy didn't survive .
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>>538232353
The courts are so fucking gay sometimes. Rule from the bench on gut feelings.
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>>538233223
>wasnt even licensed to have a gun anyway
Florida doesn't require a license. I wonder if she's a felon.
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>>538233149
maybe, i work at a gun range and a gun store (two seperate businesses; i just fucking love guns). the fastest demographic of gun owner is actually black women; which kinda makes sense seeing as how they are the number one recipient of domestic violence and they tend to get "overlooked" by the judicial system according to some

that said alot of them are coming in by themselves to the store, asking questions and actually getting trained. its not a bad thing when the right people (level headed, not looking for confrontation) are armed. issue is alot of idiots think having a firearm somehow ups your chance of winning an argument versus getting you into more trouble. since i train people i tend to explain that the best defense you have is to not engage in the first place and if you are pulling your gun it is to use it as a last resort and not a posturing move or a way to one up your opponent.

short of it is this woman failed at self defense by doing any of the possible things
>possibly started the altercation by not being civil to begin with
>arguing with an enraged man instead of seeking help inside the store or calling the authorities
>pulling the gun out and using it as a means of intimidation versus a life saving tool

i dont think its a great shoot but what do i know lol
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>>538232996
>He was close enough that he could've grabbed her gun and turned it around with a lunge.
Fine, let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you're correct about this.
That's not going to be the only question prosecutors ask though.
Another question they're going to ask is, what was the threatening action on his part that first caused her to produce the gun and brandish it while she was engaging with him?
What was the perceived threat from him that caused her to take that action and draw her gun, which then had the effect of escalating the encounter?
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>>538232930
The self-defense won't stand, but the guy did contribute to his own death by being retarded and walking towards someone pointing a gun at him or arguing with an armed person in general.
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>>538233273
ive heard of folks in chicago and places like that digging out a parking space only for some random person to park there. the typical response is to douse the car with a water hose during freezing temps causing the doors to be a bitch to open
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>>538233429
>the fastest demographic of gun owner is actually black women
they buy them for felonious men which they are endeared to. Like you say they get overlooked and might hypothetically hold on to their firearm buying rights despite being part of a gang since 12.
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>>538233341
>her argument won because the other guy didn't survive .
I'll listen to her argument as they are turning on the juice to her electric chair.
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>>538231649
>too close
You know you are talking shit don’t you.
Unless you are a poo or have Downs syndrome.
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>>538232927
Negress is constantly backing up and guido is constantly approaching.
No video but Guido's body language is "shoot me nigga" at one point.
Because of that, plus the fact she didn't flee the scene (establishes a non-guilty state of mind that believes it was justified), I would call it justifiable homicide.
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>>538232996
>You can just draw a pistol and scream at a person to flee from you to solve all of your arguments.
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>>538231649
Yea, it's a stand your ground state. She was standing her ground, he was charging it. I'd say the same thing if he pulled on her and shot first, which he would have been justified in doing, and what he should have done.
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>>538233429
Fair i still think that a decent lawyer she wont see the inside of a jail, personally i agree she blundered the situation you should try to avoid petty squabble shit cause it can escalate just as it did here, but i still think she can probably play the "lawd i wuz so scuuurd" card and have the courts throw it out
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>>538231785
Post what your family mainly smells of.
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>parks in a veteran parking spot
>gets called out on it
>murders the vet cuz
sheeeeeit
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>>538233682
You can’t stay in Ireland Poojeet you have to leave. Nobody wants you there. Pack your nappies & flip flops and bag up your droppings you have to go back to the garbage heap yoir people already spoiled.
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>>538233557
i would disagree actually

the straw purchases are pretty easy to pick out honestly. any woman buying a gun for herself tends to be a noob and ask questions and will feel the gun, ask for proper hand placement, etc. laquisha buying a gun for her felon boyfriend occurs in one of the following ways
>shows up with the boyfriend or 2-3 more ratches in tow (always a group)
>usually smell like marijauna
>will be on the phone asking someone on the other line about guns
>knows little about guns, mirthless, picks whatever they heard someone say or maybe cheaper.
>never ask questions about the gun and is largely unfamiliar with the 4473 process

i can pick up on it real quick and we take straw purchasing very seriously since the atf will shut us down
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All these posts and not a single fucking webm
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>>538232898
She keeps backing up. He keeps approaching. It's fucking over retards. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
If someone pulls a gun on you and you keep walking up to them by definition you need to be shot like the wild dog you are. Boomer must have thought he was playing Call of Duty and would get a revive.
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>>538231649
She is black and he is white so it is her destiny to kill crackers
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>>538232778
Looks like a clean shoot to me some big dude following a woman around getting in her face and she retreated and he kept coming for her. Clear as day self defense
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>>538233659
eh, if its two people arguing and name calling its a fight. if its just one person trying to get away and another approaching then its not a fight

so far, it looked like a fight and pulling a weapon out is considered fighting posture as well (aka brandishing which is illegal)

if she had stood her ground and he came at her "blood circle" and she produced a gun and fired it within the same movement then 100% justified. but the gun came out and was a "look what i have, fuck you" thing versus a "im scared for my life".

as soon as her gun came out, he could have pulled one as well if he were armed.
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>>538233512
Whiteness is an implicit threat to black bodies

Where’s the go fund me?
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>>538231649
>advancing towards a 70 IQ chimping out with a gun pointing at you
natural was the selection
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>>538232353
>this was ruled a defensive action by the jews
Of course. The nigger was defending jews by killing whites.
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>>538233682
likely a good lawyer will; but a good lawyer will also costs upwards of $50,000 minimum to get you out of a murder or manslaughter charge at the least. likely, she will be barred from firearm ownership as well and maybe be ordered to take anger classes or something if she does avoid jail
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>>538231649
Depends how threating he was towards her before she pulled the gun. If she was sacred enough to pull it but not use it right away means she was using it as intimidation and wasn't in fear.
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>>538231649
It’s Florida. Yeah it’s fine she’ll be fine
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>>538233848
yep, old vetcuck was used to being able to throw his weight around
forgot that even a tiny little black girl can still just fucking kill him
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>>538232353
i recall that; still dont know how they both didnt catch a murder charge over it
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>>538231649
At this point blacks are just trying to see what they can legally get away with when it comes to murdering black. This is what a single generation of tolerating blacks has brought us.
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I do not think that the argument
>I was in feah foh mah life yo honna , he was trying to use his White devil magic words to talk to me
Is a valid self defense argument.
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>>538233848
What was his intentional act that created a reasonable fear of imminent harm or injury in the shooter?
>he was advancing
So, someone who is just walking towards you but who hasn't done any intentional act that would satisfy the legal requirements of an imminent threat, now you can just shoot that person?
I don't believe the law works that way.
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>>538231649
Guys 62 and unarmed, theres no way in hell that could be ruled as self defense. Why did this nigress pull out that gun so casually?
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>>538232898
this is edited to promote a "sob story" narrative.
the "on scene" guy sets it up
selected cuts with no audio
probably out of sequence
there's a lot missing
the jury will see the whole thing with dialog
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>>538231649
Yes it was self defense. Good riddance, zogbot faggot
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>>538233804
>acknowledging the absoulte clown world we live in makes you foreign
Lol ok bud shes probably not going to see jailtime whether youre angry or not
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>>538231649
those new US army veteran suicide methods are crazy man
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>>538231649
Na, see all that space she can retreat to, this lady is going to be jailed for a bit. They might be peaceful rioting and peaceful lootin, but she doing time.
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>>538233670
fiftiethPBP
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>>538231649
Can't believe she killed the dog too. RIP doggo
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>>538231649
*Smacks lips* It be called stand yo ground, CRACKA
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>>538231649
>Is this a valid self-defense claim?
Sounds like it yes
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>>538234404
>, see all that space she can retreat to, t
>Florida
Lol
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>>538234244
If you pull a gun and somebody comes towards you faster, it's reasonable to believe they intend to disarm you or simply kill you. It's merely a matter of WHY she pulled the gun
If she whipped it out on a legal grounds then this is a good shoot
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>>538231649
>Is this a valid self-defense claim?

Obviously not. He was unarmed and she shot him from like ten feet away. It's fucking murder.
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>>538232996
>Sorry, the nigger was in the right
niggers shouldn't even be here. by their very existence they can't be in the right.
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>>538234623
Doesn't sound like it
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>>538234648
Keep your worthless opinions to yourself, you dumb ape.
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>>538233378
You mean jewish*
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>>538234623
But isnt Florida a stand your ground state
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>>538234716
No u
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>>538234404
That's not relevant because Florida is not a duty to retreat state, it's a stand your ground state. She has to no legal obligation to attempt to retreat before using deadly force. In both cases, the threat must be imminent, unprovoked, and proportional. The proportionality is what would get her convicted here, but I don't think it will. It's like that guy that was walking towards Kyle Rittenhouse saying "shoot me, nigga" who then was shot. And that wasn't even a stand your ground state.
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>>538234734
Yes. He's being a nigger
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>>538231649

bring back lynching
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When approaching niggers in America, have a gun at least. Or a moltolv cocktail to burn a negro alive.
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>>538232927
The dashcam footage in this article at 50 seconds is the deal breaker for no duty to retreat.
>https://wsvn.com/news/local/broward/cellphone-dashcam-videos-show-moment-woman-fatally-shoots-man-outside-north-lauderdale-walmart-over-parking-dispute/
The sheboon started the confrontation by getting out of her car with the gun drawn. That makes her the initial aggressor, and breaking the law by brandishing takes away stand your ground. If he drew on her in response, she would have had the duty to retreat to reset the situation before she could claim self defense and stand her ground.

Of course this guy was a fucking idiot for engaging with a chimp holding him at gunpoint. But if he had his own piece he would have been 100% legally justified in blowing her away on the spot. Much like the retarded road rage jeet, which I can't find a decent video of any more.
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>>538234734
You're not allowed to murder someone over an argument.

>>538234820
Kill yourself.
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>>538231649
We don’t know who started the fight or escalated it. There are no details so no fair comparison can be made.
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All veterans deserve death for enabling the invasion
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>>538234734
Florida is a mail a letter to the Department of Agriculture from anywhere in the US and we'll send you a concealed carry permit state
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>>538234905
In the video she continues moving towards her while she somewhat backs away with the pistol drawn. She will get a slap on the wrist, max.

Maybe a brandishing across state lines charge.
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>>538234984
*he continues moving towards her
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>>538234946
Is it one of those states where its legal to sell guns from the boot of your car
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>>538234879
>The sheboon started the confrontation by getting out of her car with the gun drawn. That makes her the initial aggressor, and breaking the law by brandishing takes away stand your ground.
Well if that's the case, then I agree with you. It seems more like she had intent to murder over a parking spot.
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>>538231785
ook ook
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>>538231649
>karen with a gun
evolution
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>>538231649
>niggerball-loving guido boomer dumbass ZOG-bot welfare leech (all "service members" are) gets blasted by sheboon
I AM GLAD
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>>538235070
I'm Native and I told one Native 15k White's died, they were holocausted in Canada via MAID. (medically assisted in dying)
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>>538231649
boomer survived war and covid then died for parking spot kek
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i agree being a dumb bitch is for sure a bad thing, but walking towards a woman brandishing a firearm is clear signal that you don't deserve to be breathing my air. fire away, insane woman.
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>>538235042
Gun shows in Florida are off the hook
If Zelensky was tall enough to get in Ukraine would have won the war in a week
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>>538231649
New Karmelo just deeeeerop?
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>>538234244
Yeah if we're having a heated argument and I'm backing up and you keep approaching that's assault
Let's check the list
>Intentional threat by word or act
A big guy screaming at you coming at you
>Ability to carry it out
He's a man
>Creating fear in the victim
You already pulled your gun and he's still coming. He's like some kind of boomer terminator.
This board used to be a place of free thinkers I think that's why the old fags left and left all these seething Pedros who larp as white with no understanding.
White isn't just white skin it's white behavior something all of you and this dead fuck lack.
If there was an ethnostate I'd liquidate the lot of you for being low iq and having feminine emotional minds.
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>>538234984
Can you read? he asked who started the fight, not what we can all see with our eye balls. In this country you cant make a claim to self defense if you were the instigator of the entire situation.
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>>538232930
This. She's going to face murder charges, but he volunteered to be a victim
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>>538234604
Did the video appear to show a man who was rapidly, aggressively advancing on the shooter, similar to what an attacker would do, or did it show him moving in a slow and (arguably) non-aggressive walk towards her?
>>538232898
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>>538235226
Starting an argument isnt "starting a fight". You have nigger brain.
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>>538231785
Literally crying because niggers kill each other at such a high rate? Hahahaha. Hope your future grandkids enjoy the third world
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>>538232353
I hope citizen vigilante ends up inspiring more killings of judges
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>>538231649
Back In The Day, if you shot an unarmed person, you would usually hang the next week.
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>>538234879
Delete every Jeet
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>>538235278
Or just move to Orania. I bet this will be the future, white-only cities
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>>538235314
This is evolution on camera. These "alpha" males get themselves killed and cucked by each other more than they reproduce. Which is why we arnt all ripped, hyper aggressive ape men.
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>>538231649
-1 Zogbot
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>>538235070
It's no secret that shitskins don't understand any of the technologies or infrastructure they use. They think white people received these things from the gods and that if they took possession of them, they would simply continue to function. The white man cannot lose, since even his non-existence condemns everyone else to a life in shit.
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>>538231649
sounds to me like she stood her ground
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>>538235314
Thanks. Saved to my "retardation" subfolder of the jeet section.
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>>538235252
Where are you assuming that this was just an argument if the video doesnt show it? You micks might not be flooded with enough black yet, but you generally dont seem to understand how absolutely brain dead these black are. I pry you never do but exposure to these "people" generally wises you up.
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>>538235189
>if he was tall enough to get in
Kek got his ass
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>>538233670
>You can just draw a pistol and scream at a person to flee from you to solve all of your arguments.
YES. THAT IS LITERALLY THE POINT OF THESE STUPID STAND YOUR GROUND RULES.
If this were a nigger approaching some old white lady, she'd be the new Queen of /pol/.
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>>538231649
Yes it is self defense, but if he fucked off it would also be a brandishing charge.

There is no wiggle room here: attacking so some holding a gun is a clear sign you are willing to die in order to hurt them, and if you get to them you now also have a gun.

I would kill any juror that voted to convict (in self defense)
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>veteran
Aka spoiled welfare queen
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>>538233149
Damn you that mlp fapping guy that watches the golden one? Laughable fucking loser
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>>538233149
In the USA no gun is illegal. We prefer to say undocumented. #All guns matter.
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Nigger most likely created the situation and the escalated it, then shot the man walking towards his own car in a non threatening manner.
Sheboona is going to prison.
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>>538231649
Actually insane he kept approaching at gun point. Zogbot retard had a death wish. What were you gonna do? Karate chop it from her? Probably could've had the nigger arrested for brandishing over road rage if he retreated
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>>538231649
lol, no. if other person doesn't have a weapon then you need to wait for at least few smacks to the face/head so then you can claim you feared for your life and losing your gun which might be used against you when you lose consciousness and thus had to start shooting (like cops do). it will still be a hard "self-defense" sell since you were the initial aggressor
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>>538231649
post what his gamily anre posting on social media
especially facebook!
we need to be talking more about facbook on here!
I have seen it
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>>538235556
Ahmaud Arbery charged someone brandishing a gun at him, got killed and got congressmen kneeling for him and his killer his son and a witness life in prison
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I got into 6 fights with these niggers. I don' tknow why some White people refuse to learn.
>see a nigger
>be ready to kill or shoot them
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>>538231649
Niggers can kill white people anywhere in the world and they will be rewarded for it. So yeah she will probably walk. Niggers are americans gods after all.
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>>538231909
>>ummm uhhh he was yelling and being loud
so she should have thought he was one of them
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>>538235676
You need to be charged to walk. She’s not gonna see a day in court
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>>538235533
What if both pull out a gun? Do they both then have the right to shoot due to the threat to their lives? Or is a gun not considered a threat in america?
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>>538235556
i see double spacing i don't read, simple as
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>>538231997
Florida going to remember you said that.
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>>538234626
Bro they got captured and put on a boat and shipped here lmfao. White people brought them here because they were too lazy to pick cotton take it up with them
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>>538235699
Yes, they can both either back the fuck off, or better yet blow each other's brains out in a double murder-suicide pact.
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>>538235697
Exactly. I was not aware that she has not been charged.
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>>538234879
I want every brown armed because the only rational response is an equal and opposite show of force. It'll go down about as well as this
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>>538234879
>The sheboon started the confrontation by getting out of her car with the gun drawn. That makes her the initial aggressor, and breaking the law by brandishing takes away stand your ground.
She is definitely fucked. There was a similar case where someone who was the aggressor did the same shit and he got fucked.
>https://www.baezlawfirm.com/floridas-stand-your-ground-defense-forever-changed-by-deadly-parking-lot-trial/
>In October, Michael Drejka – the criminal defendant at the heart of the Florida stand your ground federal parking lot shooting case – was sentenced to 20 years in prison. Drejka shot Markeis McGlockton, who was unarmed, while he was backing away after a physical dispute arose with regard to parking in a handicapped parking space. Drejka reportedly had a history of confronting people who parked in the handicap spot of that parking lot, and was found guilty of manslaughter in August in connection with the incident. The judge also ordered Drejka to pay $5,000 in restitution to McGlockton’s partner.
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>>538232778
>>538232898
it's a nigger so guilty but if you keep bearing down on somebody like that who has a gun pointed at you don't expect to not get shot. fucking dumbass zogbot
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>>538232898
>drunk violent retard gets goodified
I can tell it’s self defense because I’m happy he got shot.
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>>538231649
>Florida woman
the list!
I summon the list and demand the addition!
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>>538235589
Nope sorry im not a retarded faggot
>>538235605
Im jelly of your guys gun scene its fairly restricted here, you can get get shotties and 22s easily enough but anything past that you need to be part of a club and fill out further forms
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>>538235762
What a country. Good luck.
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>>538231649
She'll get hit with brandishing and that's it.
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>>538231649
So what did Bartolomo do to his daughter to make her shun him for twenty years?
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>>538231649
as long as they're consistent, I don't care
if it's self defense, white people should be allowed to shoot niggers in the same situation.
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>>538231649
Actually yes. If someone draws and you continue to escalate the situation, it's a clear sign of aggression and ill-intent.

Same reason as George Zimmerman. Zimzam drew, nigger trayvon kept hitting him, so he got shot. Trayvon should have run away.
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>>538231649
>boomers kill each other over parking
Give them both a medal.
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>>538235750
It was even crazier. They brought them mainly because the natives weren't effective enough as slaves.
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>>538235726
Florida is too fucking dumb to remember anything, absolute clown state for human garbags.
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>>538231649
it's not a valid self defense claim but that boomer was extra retarded when he decided to walk towards a nigger foid with a gun aimed at him
plot armor works only for main characters
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>it's another /pol/ is full of legal experts episode
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>>538235652
I have no idea what fucking point you could possibly be making.

>>538235708
Gj on being a newfag.
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>>538231649
>ZOG bot benies leech boomer domed by the diversity he fought to protect.
Man, that's beautiful. Just beautiful.
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>>538235966
Forgot my pic
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>Dispute over a parking spot
Who do you think initiated the dispute?
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>>538235910
Seriously, I hate these episodes. I can feel myself getting dumber reading these posts.
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Florida WalMart parking lot. kek

You don't see this kind if shit at Buc-ees do you?
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>>538235708
this
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>>538231997
We are coming for you, watch your back.
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>>538231649
I'd consider it one yes, but I'm not a cuckold.
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>>538235829
>So what did Bartolomo do to his daughter to make her shun him for twenty years?

he asked her to stop being a nigger fucking slut so she HATED him then with three niglets from three different babby daddys she wanted to make it up so she could inherit his house and savings when he died.
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>>538236001
>sheboon apes out over parking spot, causing the dispute
>browns itt think it was self defense
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>>538236001
The guy that spent 2 years as a cook in the army before he was medically discharged for gout and now get's 100% in disability benefits and parking privileges. He worked very hard to make those 2 years in the military become his entire persona.
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>>538231909
It was an violent power dynamic
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>>538231649
I'd have to see the tape honestly.
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>>538231989
Yep. Textbook brandishing.

>>538231909
None

>>538232466
Depends is the jury black/jewish?

>>538232590
We all know that will be her defense. Not self defense. Not stand your ground. He assaulted me by saying nigger
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>>538233133
Cucked mindset. Cops are the only reason niggers still exist in this country.
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>>538231649
She done say him back off or see wat happen y'all.
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>>538231785
I see a two blacks in the picture what are you talking about?
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>>538236297
Brandishing shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Letting someone know that they risk death if they continue their course of action is frankly polite.
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>>538236221
Knowing the behavior of niggers this is highly likely, she created the situation and then killed the man in cold blood.
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>>538233330
imagine going near niggers on purpose for any reason ever.
ISHYGDDT
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>>538231649
no. women are irrational and have no business carrying weapons. why was she out alone without a male escort?
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>>538231649
Okay but why would you walk towards someone with a gun drawn
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>>538233906
>>This man bigger than me was trying to speak to me so it’s legal that I end his life on the spot
Is this what goes on in those soft-boy twink tranny minds? That if you cut your cock off you’ll be small and soft and nobody can yell at you without going full Audrey Haley “Grrr those little white niggers” shooting rampage?
Fucking do it already so we can kill your ass and return to normal.
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>>538235798
>who was unarmed, while he was backing away
felt like that case could have gone either way but this is why his self defense claim failed. the justice system holds you to a much higher standard than it would a cop.
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>>538236452
this is why the creature doesnt get the benefit of the doubt with me
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>>538232353
fuck i forgot about that. fucking nigger. RIP hero white man your heart was too pure for this nigger infested country
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>>538233682
Lmao scared isnt good enough. Standard is “credible threat to life and limb”. Which is 100% absent. So she will have to pull the “he said nigger” defense. Which will ONLY fly if there are enough blacks/jews on the jury.
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>>538235414
Oh yeah based on nothing at all she challenged him to a fist fight to the death.
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>>538236445
>Brandishing shouldn't be illegal in the first place
It makes sense simply because showing the gun makes you a threat and thus gives the other person the right to kill you. Without it, these situations would be even crazier.
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>>538235652
He didnt go to them. they drove up to him and pointed the gun at him.
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>>538233429
>. since i train people
but you just said they are niggers. so which is it? niggers or people? you are fucking retarded for thinking you can train some sheboon to behave rationally with a weapon
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>>538236575
The gas station incident turned entirely on whether the niggers slight shift towards the guy in the ground constituted reengagement. Pretty cut and dried when the bullet wound trajectories came in showing the bullets were to his back not side.
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Live american, die american.
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>>538236445
Drawing a gun and holding it in low ready (which lets them know lethal force is on the table) isnt brandishing. Pointing it directly at someone IS.
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>>538236549
You can't just draw a gun and shoot people walking about.
Nonwhites think they can murder people and then claim racism or self defense.
If you're going to carry a firearm then you avoid getting into arguments/fights with people.
Nothing blocking her from leaving or escaping, even with stand your ground laws this will be brought up in court.
The sheboona with the emotional intelligence of a monkey shouldn't be carrying a firearm.
Most likely she doesn't even have a CCW permit.
I wonder how many previous offenses she got on record, this will also be examined.
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>>538236554
I thought the right was all about women being frail creatures that could never defeat a man. I also thought you were all about gun rights and the great equalizer? What happened to your principles?
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>>538236905
>You can't just draw a gun and shoot people walking about.
in the USA you can, depending on the states stand your ground laws. Florida and Texas have very broad stand your ground laws.
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>>538236921
A veteran with a limp being stopped from accessing his vehicle and then being shot as he limps forward in a non threatening manner.
The nigger wasn't in some life or death situation.

From the body language on the video alone i can tell she was in a state of rage.
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>>538235699
You can't just pull out a gun for no reason, that is called brandishing and constitutes a threat. If someone pulls a gun and especially if they aim it at you, you could justifiably take out a gun and unload on them. The only time you could legally pull out a gun would be if the other party was actively committing a crime and you wanted to deter them.

>>538231649
Pulling a gun due to a simple argument is against the law so she is probably guilty in this situation as she was already committing a crime before the shooting. If we only consider from the point of having pulled the gun though, backing away and warning person approaching before firing is a completely reasonable response.
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>>538236248
>and now get's 100% in disability benefits
I found out recently a vet can get disability even 100% disability collect the benefits and still work a full time job. Meanwhile cripples have to live off the scraps they get OR work can't do both.
I hate these Heshian mercenaries with all my heart. Israel should pay their pensions and they should be forced to live there because that's who they fought for or in this losers case reheated frozen plastic sysco bags of slop for.
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>>538237032
>To prevent imminent death
I guess a large portion of americans also can't read or write.
Put it to the test, go shoot some boomer limping towards you in a stand your ground state and see how that works out for you.
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>>538235899
if i remember one thing its you and where you are and how you be and what you gonna get.
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>>538235899
if i remember one thing its what you just did and how you be and what you gonna get
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>>538232590
>Pretty sure he shouldn’t have said the N word
To these animals the "N" word is "NO"
chimp out begins.

This is not TEXAS stand your ground law, unless the Nayger OWNS the store and parking lot there is no way you can claim self defence over a parking space. Why do browns and blacks make decisions that will land them in prison for more time than they were alive?

Why do 18 year old nigboys get 40++ years in prison? even with %50 and good time you are spending as much time as you were alive IN PRISON getting your bumhole filled with the H.I.V? over some stupid beef?
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>>538237237
Most Americans are mentally retarded, they are surrounded by niggers. And went to school with niggers. Also public school here is a joke. Most do not have their passports. \
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>>538231649
italian surname
so this was black on black violence
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>>538236921
They don't have any. The old fags when I got here were extremely principled high iq fair people. This new lot like I said in an earlier post are brown people larping as white people and they let their feminine emotional toddler brains color their judgement. Hence why all the old fags left and why I need to find a new hang out myself.
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>>538236905
You dont need a permit to CCW carry in Florida. Plus since the gun was drawn BEFORE the altercation began its technically open carry. That said she 100% acted like she is allowed to murder anyone she doesnt like who walks towards her. And you just know her statement to the police will sink any defense she could have.

>>538236921
Huh? Women are frail creatures (sheboon would lose the fight easy). Guns are the great equalizer (see this fight). Yet nowhere will you find americans stating you can kill someone who walks towards you. Thats just absurd and would lead to sidewalks being firefights….
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>>538234886
>t. Tyrone Ortiz
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>>538237317
Because if they fail to order white people around or intimidate them into getting what they want. Then they will enter a state of rage as we could see in the video.
Then they will try to justify their murder of X person with le hecking racism or self defense.
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>>538232761
>I don’t know if it’s self-defense or what but if someone pulls a gun on you then get the fuck out of there.
what if you are atarget?
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>218 posts
>Still no video
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Kill All Niggers
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>>538237124
Every single policeofficer in my city (roughly 500 officers) is on VA disability. The average is 97.2% lmao.

>>538237032
Walking towards you doesnt qualify….
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>>538237237
It has been put to the test. Murrica!
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>>538236921
>women
that is a black, you horrible idiot.
what a fool you are.
I have to ask, what is wrong with you?
it is no human
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>>538237338
Some of you are alright and i feel sorry for you, that you are forced to live around these people.
Watch your back out there.
>>538237392
A nigger felon is certainly not allowed to carry firearms.
From my understanding you need a permit to carry concealed maybe im wrong. I doubt the sheboona practiced open carry with a legal firearms.
Probably a stolen firearm she got from one of her baby daddies.
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>>538232860
you sound likea tarot reading diviner with all of the future information you do possess but also a psychic with the ability to read minds on the spot.
Now I know where Ms. Cleo went after all these years and it is you
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>>538237511
Like I said the board is filled with 80 iq brown people larping as white "mestizos" they call themselves.
>>538232898
The thing is at least with niggers they know they're dumb. Spics think they're the equal to whites when they're just as dumb and violent.
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>>538231649
Yes
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>>538237575

VERY GOOD

>no talk just action
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>>538231649
>nigger fatigue
>its real
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>Is this a valid self-defense claim?
Sounds like it. I don't know why anyone would walk towards someone with a gun unless they were going to physically assault them
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>>538237585
Well clearly they were acting within their rights according to the circumstances.
Unlike the nigger on the video we just saw.
We also know from police body camera footage and crime statistics that niggers are murderous.
None of the people on your list of acquitted defenders are black, but the aggressors probably were.
Checkmate dumb ass.
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>>538231649
Veteran is code for idiot with ptsd
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>>538237799
Maybe he was trying to access his vehicle?
He didn't charge her simple walked in a calm manner towards the door of the white car.
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>>538237067
I think he was reaching for something and he was a rapid animal yelling and screaming at her. She very clearly was in a life or death situation and she chose to live.
>>538237372
This is my home and I am not going to leave it but I don’t fit in here anymore sadly
>>538237633
The only non human in this case was the animal trying to murder an innocent woman
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>>538237719
im a white larping as a negroid pretending i am a white
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>>538237909
Nigger with a gun in a stage of rage blocked him from accessing his car?
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>>538237635
Constitutional carry is now the law in most US states. You can CCW carry without a permit.
>felons cannot carry
This assumes she was convicted of a felony. Most niggers are allowed to plead their violent felonies down misdemeanors ever since Soros bought most DAs in the country.
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>>538231649
>kikegolem ((((veteran)))
nothing of value lost
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>>538232466
Why didnt the guy just pull his gat and smoke her
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>>538237968
Never happened but it should have
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>>538231785
He was a zogbot that thought he had the right to harass civilians. Let this be a warning to you thin blue line niggers.
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Well I will say that her life wasn't in any imminent danger from this guy so that might require charges

This guy was also Ultra retarded in continuously pushing the issue and staying there.

My guess is you might be looking at negligent manslaughter
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>>538233535
maybe the gun had a piece of cheese on the end of it
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>>538237969
>Constitutional carry is now the law in most US states.
Isn't that some sovereign citizen bullshit?
Aren't there more states that doesn't permit constitutional carry than allows it?
>This assumes she was convicted of a felony. Most niggers are allowed to plead their violent felonies down misdemeanors ever since Soros bought most DAs in the country.
Clearly she's got anger issues and she's also black, i'd say it's highly likely that she weren't allowed to carry that firearm in public.
Probably a stolen firearm.
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>>538238089
Cope more nigger.
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>>538237909
He didnt reach for anything. His hands were out of his pockets and pants. Oh and btw putting a hand into a pocket is NOT a credible threat to life and limb even IF the guy is armed. Because howd you know it was a gun?
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>>538237815
>clearly they were acting within their rights
If anything, her race will help her. 80% chance she gets away with murder. All she needs to say is he saw him reaching for something and thought he had a gun.
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>>538238237
Just like it helped poor nigger Kamelo who also acted in "self defense"
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>>538231649
Better you than me
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>>538238172
If you put your hand in your pocket or try to access your own vehicle that gives the nigger a reason to execute you.
That's what he thinks.
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>>538233512
Telling someone you don't want to talk to them and to fuck off is all you need. After that it's harassment. Repeated behavior is stalking.
In this case the woman was in the right. Guy needed to walk away when she pulled gun and call the cops and roll the dice or go home to his family and make several seething Facebook posts.
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Blacks using weapons against whites and in this case semi-white people, along with open carry is why Ronald Reagan changed guns laws in California to be way more restrictive.
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>>538238360
They haven't a frontal lobe. I live in an area with 6% blacks. I got something lethal for these niggers, imagine a negro burning alive in self defence?
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>>538231649
if this is self-defense, then so is chud the builder
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>>538238172
He is very clearly printing open your eyes. He was a mentality ill baby killer that abandoned his own child he was in the midst of a ptsd flashback trying to murder her over a parking spot. He was a danger to society and he is dead and in hell where he belongs
>>538238170
You lost the gunfight migger
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>>538238424
I never saw the chud video. Just him on the ground after the shooting. No doubt a self defense issue but some states are cucked. All of them are actually.
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>>538238148
>isnt that sovereign citizen BS?
Nope. Its the law in 29 states. Another 13 are shall issue which means if youre from one of those 29 states you can CCW carry there as well without a permit.
>anger issues, black
All true. However shes a woman. Very high likelihood cops and DAs took pity on her and so her extensive criminal history is all misdemeanors.
>probably stolen
Nah. Sheboons are used as strawpurchasers and gun holders for the gangbanging niggers. She probably bought that gun and holds onto it, AND its probably been used in a crime by her boyfriend.
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>>538238306
That was an all white jury in a suburb. One Black would have changed things; Mexicans are too self hating and dumb to act on their own when seated on a jury.
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>>538238306
>Kamelo
self defense laws only apply when you are in a place where you are legally allowed to be. Going into somebody else's space and then killing them does not count as self defense.
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>>538238560
>All true. However shes a woman. Very high likelihood cops and DAs took pity on her and so her extensive criminal history is all misdemeanors.
Did they take her to jail?
In that case they surely didn't take pity on her.
>Nah. Sheboons are used as strawpurchasers and gun holders for the gangbanging niggers.
>She probably bought that gun and holds onto it, AND its probably been used in a crime by her boyfriend.
Good point.
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You niggers aren’t even white
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>>538238548
They never released it. Which means 100% the nigger was in the wrong in the chud case.

>>538238360
Yeah. The jews pushing this crap absolutely want that to be the law. And if there are a few blacks/jews on the jury it might work.

>>538238486
Kek
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If you get road rage to the point where you would ever exit your vehicle you deserve to die. If you approach a gun, you deserve to die.
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>250+ replies and still no webm
Fucking embarrassing and no I'm not clicking your link.
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>>538238715
>If you approach a gun, you deserve t-ACKK
Why did you approach me?
Im in fear for my hecking life!
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>>538231649
She had the option to leave. She has the option to not pull a gun. She had the option to not shoot.

She choose to murder him. Guilty
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>>538238715
I saw a nigger exit his vehicle and got in a White man's face, wish I helped but the nigger was reaching. I don't even have a gun but going to have better stuff, then a gun in a few days KEK
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>>538235202
>someone was yelling at me
>he never touched me
>he was walking towards me but he never moved in a way that would have caused me to reasonably anticipate an imminent attack
>nevertheless i felt threatened by his words and loud speech
>that means now i get to shoot him
Good luck with that defense.
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>>538238651
It wasn't an all white jury. No blacks doesn't mean all white especially in fucking texas, dimwit.
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>>538238680
Generally, you're not allowed to defend yourself if you're committing any kind of crime (trespassing included). A felon with a gun getting shot at can hope for 2nd degree murder for shooting his attacker if he's lucky. Mitigation would mean he gets a lower-rung sentence, which is like 10 years.
In this case, if the negress was brandishing she's going to prison. If she didn't allow the white guy an opportunity to withdraw and flee, she's going to prison
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>>538231721
I say “nigger” with a hard R in casual conversation and even I say it’s self defense.
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>>538238848
take a look of some examples where that worked.
>>538237585 if the video shows him "reaching for something" she is going to walk, might not even have charges against her.
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>heckin valid!
I dunno bout that Tyrone, but what I understand is that Assault == the fear of X
Battery == the actual damage done

and by that definition, the MSM commits Assault every day on these cattle.
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>>538238979
His arms were by his sides the majority of the time and his hands were visible throughout the incident.
His fists weren't even balled up.
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>>538235750
>White people brought
perfidious kikes brought you and you all have to go back along with the kikes
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>>538238709
It can be FOIA requested. Was he sentenced?
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>>538231649
what retard walks towards someone pointing a gun at them
sounds like a good shoot
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>>538238978
well, you're retarded, so... there's that.
she fails the proportionality and reasonableness tests.
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>>538232590
He shouldn't have even THOUGHT the N word
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>>538233699
zogbots and niggers are the same thing
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>>538239140
she felt her life was in danger because he was... walking towards her?
has she never walked on a sidewalk before?
why are there so many fucking retards on this board lately?
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>>538238688
Jail doesnt work the way you think. The way it works in the case of a black woman:
>if its a he said she said
>she is assumed to be telling the truth
>if her sheboon friends say she dindu nothing she wont be arrested
>even IF she is arrested her charges will lesser than for a man
>THEN DAs are more likely to cut women immunity deals (say five niggers rob a connivence store the DA will usually give the sheboon immunity to turn on the men)
>and then when offered a peal deal the charges shell admit to are even lesser than those charged
>and then even if she pleas to those crimes she can be allowed to retain rights as part of the plea.
This is how you see niggers with 70+ convictions on crimes which carry a minimum of two years in jail. And just wait till you find out about how being incompetent to stand trial gets your charges totally dropped forever….
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>>538238824
another guy who does not understand what stand your ground law is. There is a reason democrats call people in florida and texas crazy.

I have seen the video without audio now, she is retreating while the guy is moving in on her. If that is all the evidence there is she only needs to convince a judge that she thought he had a weapon and she is walking.
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Practically speaking, I think someone that still walks to someone pointing a gun at them and telling them to stay back earned their darwin award. Legally speaking, she was fucked as soon as she brandished. You don't get to point your gun at someone if they're not being an active threat unless you're a cop.
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>>538239203
>someone points a gun at you
>decide to keep walking toward the person pointing gun at you
are you the retarded one?
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>>538231649
Since White people are not allowed to defend themselves the same way, then the answer is no. If you want to make things equal then the answer is yes.
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>veteran
lol
lmao
rest in piss you fucking zogbot
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>>538233935
lmao at this smoothbrain take
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>>538232898
She will probably win. Stand your ground; he continued to approach her several times.
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This guy will also be acquitted in court.

https://youtu.be/luOV3Wnw7Kc?t=1752
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>>538239287
i, personally, would stop in that situation.
however, i'm not going to be on trial for murder, and neither is the retard that kept walking towards her.
what could she possibly say that would justify her shooting a man accused of... walking... towards her?
he didn't have his fists balled up.
he wasn't reaching for anything.
he literally could have been trying to walk PAST her (i don't know where his car was).
who can say?
she has to explain to a jury why she felt it necessary to shoot a man, who's hands were at his side and not even balled up, for the super scary act of... walking... in her general direction.
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Self defense is up to a DA a judge or a jury. It is never up to police. They arrest you and let others decide if it rises to the level. Best thing you can do to defend yourself is SERE, especially the SEE part as rapidly as possible. Human mammals are devolving. Keep far away never engage.
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>>538239149
He failed the proportionality and reasonable test for a solid minute when she kept telling him to fuck off and he kept advancing her.
On top of that he had military training so he was dangerous.
You cant just walk up on people after they have told you to go away and you have a gun on them.
She may have been brandishing which was a crime until he kept approaching her.
Youre allowed to tell people to leave you alone in public. They only have the right to talk to you up until the point you tell them to fuck off. After that they are committing a crime. Especially if they are preventing you from performing your day to day activities.
Remember the stupid teenager that got shot in the stomach because he was fucking with some delivery pleb?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V6sBl6m1b3E
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>>538231649
>Is this a valid self-defense claim?
yep, hes coming towards her in a threatening manner. Totally justified.
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>>538239462
Is following someone considered a threat if you never get within more than 10 feet of the person?
If I'm walking away and you're following me, whether I happen to be walking backwards or forwards, then does the fact that you are continuing to follow me constitute a threat of death, great bodily harm, or commission of a forcible felony on my person?
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>>538236575
>>538236779
Jewpedia says that nigger was shot in the chest. So I guess the jury decided him backing away was enough for disengagement, which is reasonable enough in that case because he was unarmed and realized he was at gunpoint.

The problem for this sheboon is she not only started the confrontation but also started it off by brandishing. I would argue she needed have put the gun away or at least stopped aiming at him while doing her backing away in order for that to start to constitute as disengagement. The victim in this case would have been within his rights to try and disarm her throughout that incident, which could explain why he kept approaching. Retarded behavior, I know, but sound as a legal argument if she is deemed to have stayed the aggressor during the entire incident. If she had put the gun away but he kept coming at her looking like he would attack, ultimately leading her to re-draw and shoot then this would be a much stronger case.

And there are more problems for the negress beyond that. If the jury buys that the victim had somehow become the aggressor despite her continued brandishing, that's when proportionality still kicks in. That certainly fucked the shooter in that gas station case. Would a reasonable person have believed that this unarmed man at gunpoint was posing an imminent deadly threat by continuing to approach her? Being a hysteric aggressive chimp who says "I wuz scared" is not actually going to be an excuse. Audio, witnesses or even anything he may have said to first responders may become crucial. If he was making serious verbal threats while she was backing away then maybe she'll have a case. By the looks of what's on video here, he doesn't look very aggressive at all, so I'd say it's very unlikely in purely legal terms. She will need a jury full of dirty hood niggers, not even reasonable blackpipo (a few do exist), in order to walk.
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>>538231649
This either is, or Rittenhouse wasn't. Can't have it both ways, rightoids.
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>>538239220
What i mean is if they brought here to the station after the shooting, or if they let her leave.
Some defenders aren't even brought to the station if it's obvious they were in their right.
Like a home invasion defender for example.
JAIL not prison.
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>>538239670
holy shit, i hope you don't carry a firearm.
>He failed the proportionality and reasonable test for a solid minute when she kept telling him to fuck off and he kept advancing her.
she has no right to tell him he can't be somewhere in a public space--especially if he's trying to get to his car.
>On top of that he had military training so he was dangerous.
there's no way she could have known that at the time of the shooting. plus, most jobs in the military are mundane office work.
>You cant just walk up on people after they have told you to go away and you have a gun on them.
you literally can. it's not a crime to walk towards someone, even if they "tell" you to stop. she doesn't control that space. he has as much of a right to be there as her.
>Remember the stupid teenager that got shot in the stomach because he was fucking with some delivery pleb?
i do remember that.
this is not that.
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>>538235726
Florida is going to take fent and forget where up is.
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>>538231649
Why does her skin look like poop
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>>538231649
Stand your ground is a thing in Florida. It’s a clean shot and he’s a retard that I’m glad didn’t make it to social security age.
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>>538239801
>would have been within his rights to try and disarm her throughout that incident, which could explain why he kept approaching. Retarded behavior, I know, but sound as a legal argument
I'm guessing the court wouldn't allow the prosecution to present an argument speculating on what the thoughts of the dead man were at the time of the shooting.
It's hearsay.
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>>538239942
stand your ground only means you have a duty to retreat. it doesn't grant you any additional rights.
if she's the initial aggressor, it's murder.
if she goaded him on before shooting him, it's murder.
if he was trying to back away when he was shot, it's murder.
if she used a disproportional amount of force, it's murder.
etc...
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>>538239942
Don't cry when the niggers feel emboldened and then end up killing you or one of your loved ones.
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>>538240034
*don't have a duty to retreat. fuck
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>>538236554
>Rightoids pretends to not understand the situation, making discourse impossible
Find a new bit this one's stale.
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>>538231649
Women are always wrong.
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>>538240034
That’s literally not even close to what stand your ground is you disingenuous faggot.
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>>538239807
Rittenhouse was being chased by an angry mob. This was an argument between two retards.

The cases aren't similar at all.
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>>538239853
Yes, she does have a right to tell him to stop harassing her. If someone comes at you screaming and yelling (aggressive instigator) you have a right to draw down one them and tell them to back off. If they keep coming at you screaming and yelling you have the right to shoot them.
He could have screamed and yelled walking away but fafod. NMP.
You dont understand the law and I do carry. In texas.
She was even backing away telling him to fuck off and he kept coming. Ya ought not do that.
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>>538240125
>>538240078
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>>538240034
This
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>>538231649
Depends on state law. In my state, there's "duty to retreat"; which means you can only defend yourself with deadly force if there's literally no other option and your moments away from certain death. There is no open or concealed carry either. In my state, you need to be cornered in the bathroom of your house with no way to escape while a crazed murderer is breaking down the door with an axe before you're justified in using lethal force.
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>>538240151
>You dont understand the law and I do carry. In texas.
it kind of sounds like you don't, if you think this was a clean kill, lol.
it's not even whether or not she honestly believed her life was in danger, anon.
it's if a reasonable person in her place would belive their life were in danger or at risk of serious bodily harm.
she's entirely fucked.
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>>538231785
This. The future belongs to based China.
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>>538239797
>then does the fact that you are continuing to follow me constitute a threat of death

Depends on the state.
FLA and VA? yep.
I'm trying to disengage, you are trying to continue the conflict.
BLAM.
Self defense.

ProTip; 'Stand Your Ground' laws are all about niggers.
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>>538232466
So the vet should have walked away?
Instead of escalating by continuing to approach?
So he deserves it?
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>>538240151
>you have a right to draw down one them and tell them to back off
No you don't. I'm glad we don't live in your retarded fantasy world where it's OK for people to brandish and threaten people with a firearm. You can draw your gun to shoot someone to defend your life, nothing in between is protected.
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>>538240310
no, that's not the standard.
people are allowed to have heated arguments that carry on beyond what a participant may desire.
that's not a death sentence.
you call the cops and press charges for harrassment.
no reasonable person would believe that a man walking towards her from ten feet away with his arms at his sides was a deadly threat.
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>>538240265
Good luck being a hesitant bitch. Sheboon did the right thing.
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>>538231649
Obviously it's a spurious self-defense claim just like with Karmelo Anthony, but she'll 100% get away with it because foid privilege+the old guy kept walking toward her after her gun was already drawn instead of backing off like any reasonable person would have done. Keep in mind that niggers have zero qualms about murdering each other over sneakers. Escalating ANY sort of confrontation with them as a white person is putting your life on the line since they are always looking for some half-assed excuse to kill whitey. If you come across a dangerous wild animal in something as trivial as your parking space, do you try to reason with it, let alone antagonize it? Fuck no. You remove yourself from that situation regardless of whether you were "in the right" or not.
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>>538240384
No the nigger should've gone back to africa actually.
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>>538239976
No, I was just using that as an example of why it could be legally reasonable to approach someone who is an armed aggressor in that situation. The reality here is that he seemed to be approaching her totally calmly with zero indication of impending violence. He had disengaged for a bit, came back and she shot him immediately after he rounded the corner of the white car. Zero indication of him being overly aggressive throughout the entire incident. This sheboon should fry but I'd settle for life in prison.
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>>538240483
>she's the initial aggressor
>she drew before even getting out of the car
>she killed a man with his hands at his side for the crime of... walking towards her.
she's going to have to explain to a jury why she got out of her car if she felt her life was in danger.
she's going to have to explain why she didn't do what a reasonable person would have done, which is stay in the car, with her pistol in the low-ready position, and call the cops.
she's fucked.
getting out of the car is why she's going to spend the rest of her life in prison.
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>>538240392
She told him if he came any closer she was going to shoot him. He didn't have a right to detain her or keep her from going about her business which he was trying to do. His ego got him shot and rightfully so. If only he had learned that not everyone has the time or energy to listen to his complaints he would still be alive. Shouldn't have fucked around.
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>>538240431

Rading comprehension, faggot.
Answering >>538239797
Not discussing niggers with smooth brains.
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>>538240600
>The reality here is that he seemed to be approaching her totally calmly
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>>538240670
She doesn't have to stay in her car. Its Texas. Guy needed to go about his day instead of pretending to be the police.
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>>538240600
That photo will convince any jury. The dumb bitch was like 12 feet away from him and he was unarmed.

Feared for her life? Nigger please.
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>>538240680
>She told him if he came any closer she was going to shoot him.
so?
>He didn't have a right to detain her or keep her from going about her business
she also didn't have that right...
>His ego got him shot
probably
>rightfully so
nah
she got out of her car. that's why she's fucked. he's dead, and that sucks, but she's going to prison for a long time.
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>>538240600
She's actually advancing towards him with the firearm several times.
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>>538240705
>nooooooo
>i only want to hear from people who i addressed!
lol
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>>538240766
>OMG this is totally just like that fictional movie!
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>>538240431
No one has the right to continue a conversation with you after you tell them to fuck off. Thats called harassment.
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>>538240767
no, you misunderstand.
the prosecutor will point out that IF she felt that her life were in danger, or that the man would cause her serious bodily harm
THEN why did she get out of the car?
she's not going to have a good answer for that, because there isn't one.
her self-defense claim fails right there.
and, since you have to admit to murder in order to claim self-defense, it doesn't take a genius to see that her future is behind bars.
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honestly if there was any hint that he was maga, maybe on his shirt, or a sticker on his car, it gives her the right to self defense since she feared for her life
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>>538231649
Amerisharts have lost their mind
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>>538240431
only thing she did wrong was pointing gun at him before shooting him. Everything else is well within stand your ground florida law. If the gun is legal and they are not in a gun restricted place she will probably walk.

Give the guy a Darwin award, avoid stand your ground states if you are this retarded.
>he is whiting his rights to try to take her weapon away.
hahahaha! no. Don't try this at home.
>maybe he is just walking to his car
nope, find the video. He is aggressively advancing on her.
>you can't shoot somebody just because they are walking towards you.
You absolutely can according to stand your ground, you just need to convince a judge that you thought you were in danger, watching the video this should not be hard.
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>>538240794
Well, the law disagrees. Black lady is going to walk.
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>>538240883
right.
the penalty for harassment isn't death.
people have arguments all the time without murdering someone.
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>>538240957
your a retard and MAGA is is a retarded golem nigger idealogy. And you are a retarded leftist. o anarachist
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>>538240952
As all niggers should be caged up and left to die
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>>538240883
The nigger got out of her vehicle to escalate the situation and then she pulled out a firearm.
100% murder, she's going to prison.
All niggers must hang.
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>>538231649
Based niggers!
Doing Gods work
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>>538240830
This is an image board, mutt.
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>>538241019
>>538241030
a predicate of self-defense is that a reasonable person in your shoes would fear for their life or serious bodily harm.
if she was afraid for her life, then why did she get out of the car?
she fails that very simple test, which is why it's murder.
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>>538241045
>your a retard and MAGA is is a retarded golem nigger idealogy. And you are a retarded leftist. o anarachist

silence migger
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>>538241291
I'm not even a migger, are you a bot at this point? I didn't even vote.
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>>538241089
Shut the fuck up, nigger. No one's talking to you.
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>>538241033
No one said the the state can put you to death after being convicted harassment but a citizen can defend themselves against harassers. In this case he died of a gunshot wound. Most people dont die of gunshot wounds, btw. Its 1.7:1 survival rate for all GSW victims with an obvious trend towards death the more wounds.
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>>538241353
I told you to shut up.
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>>538241424
Your a cringe leftist, pure retard who cannot understand leftism was created by jews. But you do you retard. Imagine being -100 iq KEK
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>>538241406
neat.
if i reasonable person were afraid for their life of someone approaching them, and they were seated in their car with a gun,
would that reasonable person get out of their car?
no. no they wouldn't.
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>>538241466
>leftism was created by jews.
oh really then why is the right GIGA KIKE 5000 then?
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>>538241097
She didnt have a duty to remain in her car, anon. She was going shopping.
Watch the video I posted. Virgina has similar self defense laws. You cant fuck with someone going about their business. Dude shot a teenager shoving a phone in his face and walked. Lady walks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V6sBl6m1b3E
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>>538239797
>>538240310
I'm a retard when it comes to US law. I know that Florida is a place where you don't fuck around like Texas.
She had her gun drawn; he walked several times towards her, knowing she brandished her firearm.
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>>538241532
>Berlin's third gender
>The communist manifesto
>Germany must perish
Huh
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>>538231649
link you retarded gorilla fucking nigger
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>>538241532
I did not claim I was on the right, yes the right is giga kiked then. So is the left. Those two terms are victim terms, and people on either side are victims. The proper side is third positionists or accelerationism.
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>>538234157
>both didnt catch a murder charge
because self defense and in this case defense of others is a second by second sort of issue just like any other shooting. Everything up to the point where the firefighter was choking the life out of the dude doesn't really mater legally. Only that A was choking B to death and C did stand your ground in defense of others. Something written into Missouri law.
It's still strange but oh well. Stand your ground laws have all sorts of issues. They are not as clean and simple as say castle doctrine
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article267700397.html
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>>538241555
>She didnt have a duty to remain in her car, anon.
that's not what i'm arguing.
if she was afraid of an unarmed man outside of her car,
why did she leave the safety of her steel cage?
it's because she wasn't afraid, which is why this is murder.
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>>538241569
>I'm a retard
Yes i can see that.
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>>538231649
Michael Drejka got 20 years in FL did the same thing and he was actually shoved so I'd be surprised if this dude walking up to her is going to be deemed self defense
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>>538241644
Because she had a right to. If I think some guy is going to kill me I dont stay inside all day.
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>>538239670
This is one retarded nigger. He's not the aggressor so none of those things apply to him. Proportionality means you can't shoot an unarmed guy 10 feet away from you. Reasonableness is whether it's even appropriate to use any force at all in a situation. Your sheboon cousin fails both of these on top of instigating with a gun drawn. You can visit her in prison if you don't end up in one yourself soon.
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>>538241555
She stepped out of the car with a gun drawn you retarded nigger. That's not "going shopping."
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>>538241652
I know enough not to start heated discussions, especially when they flash their gun. I would de-escalate and say that I have to apologize, okay? Defuse the situation.
I'm Turkish myself, not white, and I know not to fuck around unless you have a low IQ and are going to start a confrontation with a nigger with a gun. Good luck with that :)
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>>538241760
i'm done talking to you; i think you're trolling.
if a reasonable person were afraid for their life, they would stay in their car, and that's the standard that her actions will be measured against.
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>>538231989
>>538236297
I've had CCH licenses in two states, and for both classes we examined the shit out of the applicable laws which basically read like "make damn sure you're going to have to shoot someone before you pull your gun, because otherwise you're just brandishing a deadly weapon and probably in the wrong, legally". I doubt Florida is much different. Not cut and dry but DA's love to charge people for this shit.
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>>538241760
>Because she had a right to.
Woot is negative and positive rights and how do they work?
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>>538241863
>I'm a retard
>I'm Turkish
Checks out
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>>538241863
it is possible that the guy who got shot was retarded and acted in an unreasonable manner.
it is also possible that the woman committed murder.
these two things are not mutually exclusive.
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>>538241781
Then he should have called the cops but he didn't. He got shot running up on some lady so he could "tell her off" or beat the shit out of her. He seemed unhinged. If someone pulls a gun on me after im screaming at them over some road-rage shit (a crime btw) I wouldn't keep walking towards them. Id realize im being a nigger and go home to my white family and reevaluate my priorities.
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>>538241929
No such thing as negative rights.
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>>538242135
No someone pulls a gun on you, and you walking forward; Does not make you a nigger. It would be stupid albeit. What was stupid was him not packing a gun. or pack a moltolv
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>>538241977
Yes, good anon, dealing with group Somalis in Sweden, talk to them; see what happens when alone in public; you'll get knifed like that Polak in the UK. ^^
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>>538231649
self-defense against dude walking? karmelo had a better case
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>>538242213
Screaming at someone over some road rage shit is a crime, nigger. You try that shit with me and id shoot you if you didn't fuck off and kept advancing on me while I had my gun out. I don't have to sit in my car and wait for you to try to drag me out of my car before I get out to level the playing field.
She did nothing wrong. Stop being a rage-bait addicted faggit and taking it out on everyone is public that "inconveniences" you. Its not personal 99.99% of the time and you probably inconvenience a million people before noon.
Here's a metric; if you meet 3 assholes before noon you're the asshole.
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>>538242212
You've got them swapped, 'positive rights' involve fundamentally flawed logic, and are what 'entitlements' get mislabeled as (healthcare, food, housing, other gibs). Negative rights describe protections which guarantee that one may exercise their own personal autonomy.
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>>538242417
Your a nigger lover and I hope you get shot in the face, by a feral nigger someday. You wouldn't do shit you nigger apologist. I'd burn you alive kek.
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>>538242325
You live in the Netherlands as a Turk, you're a foreign invader just like the Somali niggers as far as i am concerned.
No wonder you take the sheboon murderers side in this shooting.
Not surprising.
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>>538242570
Based
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>>538242334
Karmello got jail because he was on school property. No one wants armed kids stabbing each other at school because they get in disagreements which would have been the prescident had he walked.
This woman shot a guy aggressively approaching her AFTER she told him to fuck off and he wouldn't. Shes going to walk because self-defense should be preventive and you shouldnt have to wait until someone is beating you to fucking shoot them. Fuck off away from me unless you have a warrant or an appointment.



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