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Zelensky just said that the war must be stopped despite the fact that Ukraine is winning. He asks all his Western partners to put pressure on Putin so he stopped this war he is losing xD

https://streamable.com/0zqz7y
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>>538240477
He can never win
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>>538240477
>Zelensky just said that the war must be stopped despite the fact that Ukraine is winning. He asks all his Western partners to put pressure on Putin so he stopped this war he is losing xD
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>>538240477
B-but muh burning rafineries
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Zelensky: it is a fault of our partners that Russians can strike Kiev. They are unable to supply us with what i demanded from them.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2072698513574478284
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>>538240477
>winning so much you beg for the other country to stop
LMFAO KEKAROOOOO
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>>538240477
>Zelensky just said that the war must be stopped despite the fact that Ukraine is winning.
This is generally how non-sociopaths operate. You think he enjoys killing Russians?
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Not interested in what banderites have to say.
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Thats how looks biggest fuel depot in Kiev now
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>>538240909
first post faggot post
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>>538241299
Lolololol lololol Lolololol
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>>538240909
BASED
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>>538240477
So why is he picking a fight with Poland right now?
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>>538241308
american talking like the mentally ill tranny from canada who post gore all day with arms looking like a 10 year old child
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>>538241433
>Thats how looks biggest fuel
the jews arent paying the best
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>>538240477
>winning
lol, to the last hohol
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Europoors will never admit they're in the wrong. Pride will become their fall. I hope Russia doesn't stop with oinkraine, baltic niggers and pooplacks need a slap on the wrist as well.
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8 minute video showing most strikes that happened last night. Practically zero interceptions, all missiles hit targets

https://x.com/Minister_Prawdy/status/2072700639734387077

Daily reminder that UPAdline has the most saturated and modern AD systems in Europe now xD
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>>538240477
So what blew up in ukraine today?
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>>538241395
>You think he enjoys killing Russians?
I think he enjoys killing Ukrainians.
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right wing polacks are dumb cattle
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>>538241576
>somali doesn't understand that im mocking the tranny nigger canadian
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>>538241709
>pic
Russia is the invader and the aggressor here. All they have to do to end the meat grinder is to cease invading.
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>>538240477
what is this idiot doing? i don't understand it. The alliance with Poland was built on feeble agreement that ukraine is acknowledging the attrocities they committed in the past. Ok, we don't forget, but we can get over it and work towards future. And now this idiot threw all of this away just for a temporary support gain

this cretin is a Jew himself. his compatriots died the same as Poles at the hands of OUN. just how depraved you have to be to just ignore that and play the ukrainian facism card. The guy has no morals whatsoever
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>>538240477
>pls surrender, we already won
now we know where Trump picked that up
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>>538241878
You just answered your question
>he's a jew
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>>538241878
He probably accidentally grew attached to ukraine and wants russia to capitulate before they landlock it.
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>>538241804
i dont even read comments that looks like KEEKAAAROOOOOO
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>>538241878
It is about war. The harder situation becomes, the more he needs to rely on ultra-nationalist circles like Azov. Thats why he slowly changes colours from blue-yellow to black-red. It will only escalate, especially if the war is finally lost - radicals will become more influential
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>>538242009
more like he grew attached to the power, status and money
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>>538240477
so new narrative from kremlin propaganda is:
>actually it is ukraine who is invading russia now they want peace
i honestly hate you people with my entire soul and fiber and i grew up never even liking ukrainians, but if i have to choose between ukraine or russia i am picking ukraine every single time. you are deceitful, lying jewish tier cancer that does nothing exzcept lie through your teeth and undermine societies while bombing peoples homes. i am geuinely happy putin is genociding the russian people and has opened russias borders up to mass immigration. 10 years ago i would have supported russians who opposed it, but putin had all those russians killed or jailed so long ago i doubt there are many left alive or mentally coherent.
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But there's still Ukrainian men hiding in basements ZELENSKY? You took the money right?
Finish the job. I thought the deal was to the last Ukrainian. You and Putin shook hands on it. A deal is a deal.
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>>538240477
no one seems to see a contradiction with iran not being happy with being bombed, yet the USA losing the war against it. the point is, the ukraine has successfully been preventing putin from achieving his objectives now for over 4 years, and it's only getting worse for russia.

you're trying to make it sound like a boxing match, where to win it means they're hurting russia more than russia is hurting them, but russia has the objective and can give up, ukraine is fighting for survival.
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>>538242115
Seems like their plan was a media and Moscow strike blitz to make people think the war is starting to turn into Ukraine's favor, seemingly now to pressure Russia into a peace deal before they win.
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>>538242037
ukraine will be left on its own, if that happens. So this is playing right in the putin's hands. If this idiot thinks that ukraine can survive without supplies from the West, he's heavily mistaken. Just cutting off fuel alone would kill ukraine.
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>xD
Why are Poles like that?
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>>538241878
>ukraine is acknowledging the attrocities they committed in the past
Poles attacked and colonized a weakened and smaller Ruthenian country, colonized their land, made them serfs, kicked them out of their own cities and then tried to sell them out to Turks.

>The Pole will always tell you what happened to him, but never why
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>>538242196
It's called soul you kike
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>>538242115
>if i have to choose between ukraine or russia i am picking ukraine every single time.
they're the same kind of people. with zero respect for human life of either theirs or their adversaries
you don't want to chose between either of them. Both would stab you in the back on the nearest occasion. Hohols would also dismember your body after, probably.
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>>538242230
bunch of vague bullshit. Why don't you go back to hoholandia, Mykola
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>>538242172
russia lost the war moment in 2022 when they failed to break the ukrainian country. as anyone can see since 1960, conventional warfare doesnt exist anymore. if you dont win support of popularity, you will lose the war. russia failed to achieve both popular support and failed to achieve military success. there is no possibility they will win now, even if war lasts 40 years as afghan proved, and afghan didnt even have drones.
>>538242277
i genuinely could care less, i spent entire life growing up with ukraine and belarus on border and there was no issue. now russia is only one causing problems while blaming all other people.
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>>538242230
the szlachta have not existed for 100s of years at this point. you are finger pointing at gravestones
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>>538242347
>Nooooo Russia invaded me muh gommunism red scare
>In reality it was to return lands Poland had stolen
Also: Council of Bar and the plot to have the Ottoman Empire take over parts of what is now Ukraine so that Poland would have the Ottoman Empire between them and Russia. During the Pan-Slavic movement of the late 1800s, Russian, Balkan Slavs, Romanians, Greeks and even Brits died to remove kebab from Europe while all Poland did was bitch about Russia.
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>>538240477
>we are definitely going to win the war, but we'd rather save the lives of thousands of our children and end it right now
This is what he wanted to say, but he started mumbling like a retardo instead. Dumb joker.
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>>538242387
Russia is a victim attacked by desperate bankrupt Westoids who are panically scared of Russia and China creating their own patallel multipolar global order. Westoids would love to enforce some humiliating treaty on Russia and get easy/cheap access to its vast resources to rescue their crushing economies. UPAdline and Bolanda serve only as expendable cannon fodder in these plans.
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>>538240477
It's a guagmire and Putin should take the next offramp he sees. Prolonged war benefits nobody.
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>>538242440
So do you agree that Lvov is not a Polish city then? It was founded literally by Russia. I'm just saying, you guys constantly lie about these things. Even your current eastern border is made from Belarusian/Ukrainian lands.
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>>538242013
but you did :^)
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Ukrainians did not want a war, do not want the war and want the war to end. War is not fun or a game.
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>>538242499
>Pan-Slavic
never existed. russia conspired with both ottomans and germans as the 3 parties tried to coordinate the ethnic genocide of slavic people. even with bismarck. russia has killed more slavic people then even germans, and germans at least knew how to build basic infrastructure. we still are working on fixing the retardation from communist era in terms of infrastructure, and it is only matter of time before those commieblocks start collapsing one after the other. my brother works in architecture and he says all commieblocks are built of such poor material it will be a massacre all over eastern europe, like catatrsophic death tolls.
>>538242543
>victim
ah yes, the russian cries out in pain as he strikes you.
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>>538242607
>It was founded literally by Russia.
you are literally retarded
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>>538241299
I dont have twitter so how watch
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>>538242710
Meant for >>538241695
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>thread about Ukraine and Russia
>Not a single ukranian or russian flag but instead filled with polish flags

When is Poland going to be the one bombed?
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Both sides stopped achieving directives and neither nation can be losing generations of people because there aren't that many there. What did you gain getting an empty quarter where you have to import humans not you.
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>>538242606
It benefits the kikes and their population replacement agenda.
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>>538242607
russia never founded cities anywhere, russia did not even exist at that time. russia is relatively modern invention, and the thing that calls itself russia today is not even that. after the bolshevik revolution, the tsarist russian world was destroyed, aristocracy purged and replaced. the only thing "russian" about russia federation is linguistic ties and some territory, but it was eastern marches of the old rus lands.moscow was a border principality with asia, not a core part of rus world during their peak hundreds of years ago.
>Even your current eastern border is made from Belarusian/Ukrainian lands
im not sure you understand how the PLC operated. and i also dont quite understand what your argument is. PLC existed so russia should genocide slavic people and create some multi-racial police state like they have in moscow?
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>>538242115
based russia hater, we we all should be
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>>538240909
>>538241562
Nice work shills, you wont be drafted for today! Keep it up, since tomorrow the recruitment officer will make sure to check up on you!
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>>538242851
>russia never founded cities anywhere, russia did not even exist at that time.
polak chosen jew has spoken
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>>538241299
>he thought that russia had kept the gloves on the whole time was nonsense
Lmao. He fell for his own propaganda. Time to flee to israel and wait for the assassins.
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>>538242798
Zelesnky wants to genocide all ookranians to make room for Jews

Putler wants to genocide as many Russians which is why he kills his best generals anytime they start making any gains on the battlefield

This was should have been over when Pringles and Wagner marched on moscow to take the throne and then nuked the brits
But instead it's just killing young men on behalf of Jewish interests
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>>538242883
Nice projection.
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>>538242883
>Nice work shills, you wont be drafted for today! Keep it up, since tomorrow the recruitment officer will make sure to check up on you!
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>>538242795
4chan is banned in russia, the only time you will see a russia flag here is a literal government employee posting. i doubt 4chan was ever popular in ukraine. we have history with both ukraine and russia. its not really complicated as to why we take interest in neighouring country's war.
>>538242866
there is not a single quality of russia that is worth respecting. it is society built on lies, deceit, and masks.
>>538242891
ironic cosidering entire foundation of so called "russia federation" is jewish communism and a jewish kgb officer name yevgeny primakov, who groomed putin for his current position and was one of key players in transferring the power of the communist party into the newly rebranded united russia party.
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That ain't the half of it. Never was. Someone post the video. Mine too big. There's many.
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>>538242946
>he thinks thats a german posting
statistically speaking its MENA
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>>538242949
>ironic cosidering entire foundation of so called "russia federation" i
jew suffer from skitzo episode trying to call russia a jew state. either way; two jews killing each other is always good in my book
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>>538240477
Why didn't they choose to save millions of lives in 2022? Guys, should I just get a hooker at this point? I'm convinced politics is useless and politicians are just pro league trolls. I really need my dick in a vagina.
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>>538242695
youve literal hiv
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>>538243166
>Why didn't they choose to save millions of lives in 2022?
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>>538241299
if that was the case why did they spend 48 hours launching drones
oh right, we've seen this one 20 times now
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>>538243231
oh its the
>tactical withdrawal
cope again. lukashenko is to busy plotting his retirement and pumping minsk full of afghanis and moroccans. city is unrecognizable now, but was part of plan to genocide the belarusian people and federalise them under putin, although it has taken a bit to long and putin is also entering retirement years. that whole scam operation they have isnt going to last much longer. i think by the time my son turns 13 we will be speaking about belarus and russia federation as historical entities
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>>538243159
finally a brown 70IQ chimed in. we have all been waiting for your opinion, enligthen us some more
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>>538242883
I am always ready
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>>538241299
>i am entitled to infinite patriot missiles
>if i dont get them it's your fault
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>>538243514
why the fuck does he have mini-me's
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>>538240477
Zelensky is begging the West to stop them from winning it all because he is that humble a man
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>>538243226
lmao pic rel russian retard
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>>538243479
slovak jew shill department came online. slovaks are so pathetic that they can't even come up with their own flag and using Russian flag with their faggy coat of arms plastered on top of it (very jeet vibes with their anus coat of arms on nigerian flag)
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>>538243796
your skin is a colour of shit and so are your words
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>>538243928
bwahahahahhaha post hands with timestamp, jew
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>>538241299
GIIIIIIIBBB MEEEEEE

It's now what, at 300 billion? Not even counting the direct donations of arms
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>>538243457
Bennett was in moscow on march 5, 2022, and had a three-hour conversation with putin. I'd bet that putin fell for it.
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None of you have your own governments. This is what happens and worse. People won't look. Look what happens. One word Bolsheviks. All planned. Now post the 1800's Rothschild's octopus map and their gold holdings. To tie it all in a bow. They all died for a reason, but it is all not the truth, but theatre. A great facade, lies, and deceipt. For them in power, they are just well paid puppets. Go higher. Nothing has changed. It was always Rothschild's. Now, since they want Iranian civilians to be beggars and to take their country "the Iranian government is already owned" there will be a false flag here in the USA a massive one as Lucifer loomer says to forment a war to kill and beat Iranian citizens into submission. Those people are free but the Iran government is owned the same as all others quite obviously. Watch closely. It will happen.
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>>538241658
Leave us be. The west has dirt on all our politicians and makes them do all that shit. Bedides, we have no resources, just a bunch of senior citizens. No one will try to cross our swamps for that.
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>>538240477
Oh, no you don't, prancing coke-head.
Putler just expanded the SMO to land-lock you lmao.

Nice try
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>>538240477
>HELP ME INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS, I'M WINNING!!!
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>>538240477
Zelensky is graceful AND merciful. Russia would be stupid not to take the olive branch
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>>538243988
yea I will definitely do what some shitskin says lmao. go back to inbreeding with your sister and stop shitting up this board
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>>538241615
It's so crazy that this is literally the guy.
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>>538242168
Ukraine can survive by just giving russia an oblast where 99% of the population are russians. Always could have survived this way. But jewlensky decided to genocide all of ukrainians just to steal a few dozens of billions. That's the opposite of surviving.
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>>538244087
jew fears sunlight
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>>538244077
Russian citizens are totally radicalized due to torture videos, they want Ukraine wiped off the map
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>>538244177
total kike death and total shitskin death. you are a plague upon earth.
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>>538244040
They should have taken odessa much earlier. That would have been extremely damaging to ukraine. But yes, now it has reached a point where the war can be considered a failure if they don't at least establish a connection to transnistria.
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>>538244236
>total kike death and total shitskin death
agreed, jew
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>>538243159
The Soviets where a kike run op running on kike programming ever since. You have to go back.
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>>538242695
>>538242851
>Rus isn't Russia
>Rurikid dynasty princes aren't Rus
>Orthodox East Slavs from Rus aren't Russian
>Rusyn people, also named after Russia do not exist either
Alrighty then.
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>>538244418
soviets happened in 1905, retard. that's when jews took over and even then plagued by jew 80 year curse is when jew power fell apart 80 years later. USA on the other hand is still under jew control since 1903 because morons such as yourself keep propping it up
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>>538244418
USA is run by the kikes that were kicked out of Soviet Union Stalin purge, Israel-fisters like Chuck Schumer, Vic Noodles, etc, people who single-handedly started global spanning Wars like Rus-Ukr. Russians today are more beholden to Muslims than Jews, Russian Jews have almost no power since they all live outside Russia
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Wow, a whole thread of ziggers on Polish VPNs. Why do you subhuman orcs have to LARP as us so much? Everyone hates you here, we're all supporting Ukraine no matter how much you fail at D&Cing over events of WW1 or whatever.
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>>538243231
>the Vatican
>no, it was the Jews!
Luka is a such a subhuman boomer patsy joke it’s incredible.
>>538243995
Total roachjeet death
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>>538244210
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>>538244210
Russians are subhuman. You can’t radicalize them. They operate on one script and it’s indistinguishable from any given Saar or smallhat, no matter the time or circumstance.
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>>538244530
yep literally isnt
kievan rus was made by novogrodians and moscow was just a borderland of it
then mongols invaded and muscovites started loyally serving the mongols forcing novogrodians and others to pay tribute to mongols
after mongols declined the creator of russian tsardom exterminated novogrodians and created russia
so those are 2 opposite entities
its like saying turkey is byzantine empire
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>>538244567
(((International))) kikes funded the Soviet kikes you worthless retarded nigger. Mongols ate it up and ran with it till this day
No one is fooled you dumb shitskin. Your superiors literally fought something called a world war over it.
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amazing
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>>538244594
they see it as a way to pretend they are human which gives 2nd youth to their bullshit
pic rel is already too stereotypical
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>>538244796
I could easily say Jews have total power in Russia, maybe they do, but I have been researching this subject for years and I am 50/50 on it, don't be so confident you dumb nigger
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>>538240477
This is what any sane leader would say, regardless of cocaine status. Insane leader is not in Ukraine.
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>>538240477
>Zelensky just said that the war must be stopped despite the fact that Ukraine is winning.
Many such cases.
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>>538244747
>moscow was just a borderland of it
Moscow was firmly located within Rus. Vladimir, Yaroslavl, Smolensk, Ryazan... etc. were all founded during the "Kievan Rus" period in which Ukraine had yet to exist for 1000 years and all the documents from modern Ukraine were written in old East Slavic AKA Old Russian. Even the towns on Poland's eastern rim like Chelm were founded by Rus >>538242607. Otherwise nice fanfic.
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On the cover of Time man of the year. 1934
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>>538240477
You understand why this is yes. Ukraine actually winning is Zelensky loosing condition. He was there to embezzle and depopulate every Ukrainian male and draw NATO(The USA) into finishing the job with a ground war against Russia then last gasp of the old world global reset spending our last credit rebuilding israel 2.0 for them before they hard mask off pivot to China. The kikes royally fucked up the planning and the Ukie's fought like fins and our surplus tech and Ukraine's reading the tea leaves on drones actually broke Russia before it could completely depopulate all the men from the region.
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>>538245046
between 860 and 960 territory of moscow wasnt even part of kievan rus but khazaria iirc
it was inhabited by some finno-ugric tribes
then it was conquered in 960 by some rurik prince who established there suzdal and later vladimir-suzdal
>Suzdal is first mentioned in chronicles under the year 1024, although the region was already populated by various Finnic and East Slavic tribes by the 9th and 10th centuries.[19]

>At the turn of the 12th century, Grand Prince Vladimir Monomakh arrived with a wave of settlers.[19] Around 1102, he began the construction of a stone cathedral in Suzdal.[19]
first mention of moscow comes from 1147 and it was a shithole backwater little mixed town made of ugrics khazars and slavs
then mongols came and muscovites chosen loyalty to mongols before exterminating the novogrodians who were creators of kievan rus
after this you cant say both are same entitites
its literally the opposite
you could say
>russians were slavs once
>taken by the mongolian powers, tortured and mutiliated
>a ruined and terrible form of life
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>>538241299
door dash jeet here? your order sar?
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>>538245046
>>538246050
if you are wondering mongols sacked moscow already in 1238
so not even 100 years passed between moscow was little town and untill it was sacked by moscow
kievan rus existed longer without it
mongols caused very heavy casualties in mongol population and everyone who survived was enslaved
and so the stockholm syndrome kicked in
>Moscow's eventual dominance in northeastern Rus' was in large part attributable to the Mongols.[6] Moscow drew people and wealth, developed trade links, and established an autocratic political system which exerted a powerful influence on Russian society.[6] After the prince of Tver led an uprising in 1327, the rival prince Ivan I of Moscow joined the Mongols in crushing Tver and devastating its lands. By doing so, he eliminated his rival, allowed the Russian Orthodox Church to move its headquarters to Moscow, and was granted the title of Grand Prince by the Mongols.[33][34]

>As such, the Muscovite prince became the chief intermediary between the Mongol overlords and the Russian princes, which paid further dividends for Moscow's rulers.[34] In the 14th century, the Muscovite princes began "gathering Russian lands" to increase its population and wealth. While the Mongols often raided other territories, they tended to respect the lands controlled by their principal collaborator. This, in turn, attracted nobles and their servants who sought to settle in the relatively secure and peaceful lands of Moscow.[34] Although a Russian army defeated the Golden Horde at the Battle of Kulikovo in 1380, the Mongol domination of Russian-inhabited territories, with the requisite demands of tribute, continued until the Great Stand on the Ugra River in 1480.[33][34]
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>>538245046
during this time mongols replaced influence of kievan rus with their own culture
>Historians have debated the long-term influence of Mongol rule on society.[6] The Mongols have been blamed for the destruction of Kievan Rus' and the breakup of a "Russian" nationality into three components, and the introduction of the concept of "oriental despotism" into Russia. Such fears also manifested into the Yellow Peril inside Imperial Russia.[6]

>However, most historians agree that Kievan Rus' was not a homogenous entity in a political, cultural, or ethnic sense, and that the invasions only accelerated the period of feudal fragmentation that had begun prior to the invasions.[6] Historians also credit the Mongol regime with an important role in the development of Muscovy as a state.[6] Under Mongol occupation, for example, Muscovy developed its mestnichestvo hierarchy, postal road network (based on Mongolian ortoo system, known in Russian as "yam", hence the terms yamshchik, Yamskoy Prikaz, etc.), census, fiscal system and military organization.[6][39]

>The period of Mongol rule over the former Rus' polities included significant cultural and interpersonal contacts between the Slavic and Mongolian ruling classes. By 1450, the Tatar language had become fashionable in the court of the Grand Prince of Moscow, Vasily II, who was accused of excessive love of the Tatars and their speech, and many Russian noblemen adopted Tatar surnames (for example, a member of the Veliamanov family adopted the Turkic name "Aksak" and his descendants were the Aksakovs).[40]

>Many Russian boyar (noble) families traced their descent from the Mongols or Tatars, including Veliaminov-Zernov, Godunov, Arseniev, Bakhmetev, Bulgakov (descendants of Bulgak) and Chaadaev (descendants of Genghis Khan's son Chagatai Khan). In a survey of Russian noble families of the 17th century, over 15% of the Russian noble families had Tatar or Oriental origins.[41]
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>>538245046
>>538246532
>The Mongols brought about changes in the economic power of states and overall trade. In the religious sphere, St. Paphnutius of Borovsk was the grandson of a Mongol baskak, or tax collector, while a nephew of Khan Bergai of the Golden Horde converted to Christianity and became known as the monk St. Peter Tsarevich of the Horde.[42]

>In the judicial sphere, under Mongol influence capital punishment, which during the times of Kievan Rus' had only been applied to slaves, became widespread, and the use of torture became a regular part of criminal procedure. Specific punishments introduced in Moscow included beheading for alleged traitors and branding of thieves (with execution for a third arrest).[43]

and finnaly ottoman empire was created through extermination of byzantine elites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Novgorod
and in the meantime the religion/culture was shifted from european oriented and norse friendly to mongol oriented and norse hostile
>A grandson of Vsevolod the Big Nest, Nevsky rose to legendary status after victories over Swedish invaders in the Battle of the Neva (1240), which earned him the title "Nevsky" in the 15th century, and over German crusaders in the Battle on the Ice (1242). He agreed to pay tribute to the Golden Horde, which allowed him to preserve the Eastern Orthodox Church, while fighting against foreign powers to the west and the south. Macarius, Metropolitan of Moscow canonized Alexander Nevsky as a saint of the Russian Orthodox Church in 1547.
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>>538245046
>>538246676
>Regarded long after his death as "one of the great heroes of Russian history",[6] Nevsky is credited with having "saved the Russian people from Catholicism and being enslaved by the Germans".[7] Nevsky's successes led his image to be used by Peter the Great in the construction of Saint Petersburg. His image was also used to promote patriotism in the Soviet Union, especially during World War II.[8] The 1938 film Alexander Nevsky cemented Nevsky's reputation as a Russian savior.

>Alexander faithfully supported Mongol rule within his own domains. In 1259, he led an army to the city of Novgorod and forced it to pay tribute it had previously refused to the Golden Horde.[49] The chronicles say that Alexander had the help of nobles who "thought [the tax] would be easy for themselves, but fall hard on the lesser men".[50] It then says that "the accursed ones," meaning the Mongols, "began to ride through the streets, writing down the Christian houses".[50] According to Fennell: "the Tatar yoke began not so much during the invasion of Batu into Russia, but from the moment Alexander Nevsky betrayed his brothers".[46]

>Some historians see Alexander's choice of subordination to the Golden Horde as an important reaffirmation of East Slavs' Orthodox orientation (which begun under Vladimir the Great and his grandmother Olga of Kiev).[51] Orlando Figes mentioned that "Nevsky's collaboration was no doubt motivated by his distrust of the West, which he regarded as a greater threat to Orthodox Russia than the Golden Horde (...) But Nevsky's realpolitik caused a problem for the chroniclers, particularly after he was made a saint by the Russian Church in 1547, for in their terms he had colluded with the infidel."[48]
this is the saint of russian orthodox church and one of most important heroes of russia to this day praised by both imperialist communist and modern russia
you cant say its the same as kievan rus
its literally the opposite
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>>538240477
Don't care if it's him or Putin, Crimea in Ukraine or bust.
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>>538241850
>calling other countries aggressors
>don't invade others
>flag
Lmao how many bases do you mutts have around the wold? Arent you just through attacking another country for jews? Why were McCain and Nuland in Kiev in 2014 during the uprising? For the weather?
Fucking amermutts have zero self awareness. You are the Russians of the West
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>>538240477
The war is not ending until total christian (gay) death and total jewish victory with reforming the soviet union
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The war will not end until the white race is pacified with total jewish victory over the white race
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>>538246050
What the fuck are you even smoking, nigger.
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>>538248798
show moscow on your map retard
>The Meryans (Russian: мepянe, romanized: meryane) or Merya people (Russian: мepя, romanized: merya) were an ancient Finnic people that lived in the Upper Volga ...

>The Meshchera or Meshchyora (Russian: мeщepa or мeщёpa) were a Finno-Ugric tribe in the Volga region between the Oka River and the Klyazma river,

>Galindians were two distinct, and now extinct, tribes of the Balts.
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HOLY FUCK SHUT THE FUCK UP POOPLANDERS FUCKING HELL EVERY FUCKING THREAD IS POLISH AUTISM
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>>538249346
Moscow is not even as far east as Suzdal (let alone Ryazan, which was taken during the time of "Kievan Rus") The only thing is that Moscow was just a relatively insignificant trading post until it became a major city and center of power, it was always there and within the territory, not a foreign entity like you are trying desperately to portray. Seriously, look at a map one day.
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>>538249571
you cant even read you russian retard
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>>538248798
>>538245046
AND NOW THE FUNNIEST PART
THE LAST TRIBE FROM THE REGION OF MOSCOW RIVER AND THE ONLY SLAVIC ONE I DIDNT MENTIN YET WAS ACTUALLY POLISH ACCORDING TO PRIMARY RUS CHRONICLES
>The Tale of Bygone Years tells about the Lechites origin of the Radimichi: “...radimichi bo... from the Lechites” and “The former Radimichi from the Lechites family; before that, you are all-powerful, and pay tribute to Russia ”.[3] These words of the chronicler had a great influence on many researchers. Medieval Polish chroniclers - Jan Długosz, Maciej Stryjkowski and others, as well as historians of the 18th and 19th centuries unconditionally recognized the Polish origin of the Radimichi.

>There is little information on the Radimichs. According to Nestor the Chronicler, the tribe of Radimichs "sprang from the Lyakhs" or after the conquest by Vladimir the Great became part of the race of Lyakhs (Lendians) and used to live in areas of Sozh river. According to tradition recorded by Nestor, their name derives from the name of the forefather of the tribe, Radim, who was one of the Lyakh brothers, other being Vyatko from whom emerged Vyatichi.[1]

>Lach (Polish pronunciation: pronounced [ˈlax]), Lyakh or Ljach is a surname. It was used by East Slavs to refer to Poles.[1]
good for you you already bailed out russian retard because in reality you are rape spawn of poles fins mongols and khazars that thinks he is son of rus
truly a terrible creature
>russians were slavs once
>taken by the mongolian powers, tortured and mutiliated
>a ruined and terrible form of life
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>>538240477
>Let more of your people die to win the war or convince Russia to give up and less people die
There is no cognitive dissonance you are just retarded.
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>>538249954
Isn't that East Slavic territory on your map? Also you can thank Russia for famously removing the Pechenegs and expanding the border of EUrope.

>The earliest East Slavic tribes recorded as having expanded to the upper Volga in the 9th to 10th centuries are the Vyatichi and Krivichi.
So around the 800s, which corresponds to the beginning of East Slavic expansion which is around 700. Also note that East Slavs assimilated many Balts who were present throughout the entire area as well
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>>538245046
>>538248798
>>538250611
AND AS YOU WELL KNOWN KIJÓW WAS ALSO CREATED BY POLANS
WHO WERE IN FACT LECHITIC(POLISH) TRIBE SAME AS VYATICH AND RADIVICHI
WE ARE THE HEAD OF SLAVIC RACE
BUT THE FURTHER EAST YOU GO THE MORE DEGENERATE YOU BECOME YOU MONGRELIZED RAPE BABY
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>>538250688
your own primary chronicles admit both vyatichi and radivichi were polish russian retard
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>>538250611
>Moscow wasn't real but also we wuz Moscow
Are you for real anon? The semi-mythical account says they were Lechitic settlers who paid tribute and were allowed to settle there. But this is like a Herodotus style antiquity type of account, they aren't entirely accurate and there is no actual archaeological basis for it and they were just standard Balto-Slavs like pretty much all East Slavs (Dnieper Balts were also a thing).

>The Radimichs,[a] or Radzimichs (Belarusian: Paдзiмiчы, romanized: Radzimičy, Russian: Paдимичи, Ukrainian: Paдимичi and Polish: Radymicze), were an East Slavic tribe of the last several centuries of the 1st millennium, which inhabited upper east parts of the Dnieper down the Sozh and its tributaries. The name probably derives from the name of the forefather of the tribe - Radim. According to Russian chronicle tradition, "... but there were Radimichs from the Lechites family, who came and settled here and paid tribute to Rus, and the wagon was carried to the present day" (a wagon is a type of tax for the right to have one's own prince). However, in the scientific literature, there is no consensus on the ethnicity of the Radimichs. Archaeological evidence indicates that this tribal association had a mixed Slavic- Baltic origin.
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>>538251077
Also I should mention that ancient historians took a lot of myth for truth because they did not have sophisticated scientific means to verify and so a lot of hearsay and things simply passed down and generally accepted were written in the record. This is how you got things like Atlantis and impossibly large city walls noted as fact. Simply being able to read and write means you were among the most educated in society up until relatively modern times.
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>>538251077
muscovy was to kievan rus what modern london is to england
in the first place it was the area inhabited mainly by finno ugrics poles and some balts and on top of it is was longer ruled by khazars and mongols than it was ruled by kievan rus
this mongrel finno ugric polic baltic nation was so souless it automatically became the mongol bitch the first chance it got and it was the beginning of RUSSIAN culture that has nothing to do with kievan rus but was imposed on kievan duchies by this mongrel muscovite population
let it rot for 1000 years and you get nigeria with snow
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>>538240477
Nobody is winning or losing this war, it's a fucking meat grinder.
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>>538241878
Netanyahu is a kike too. Powerful, powerfully ugly kikes come from Poland a lot.
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>>538248596
Attack the argument not the messenger chinkiboo.
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>>538240477
Lmao
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>>538242851
Idiot.
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>>538240477
Hohols are tired of winning
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>the seething ukrainian refugee in poland itt
Kek



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