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I had some questions on some frequent talking points I hear pretty generally. Was wondering what the truth behind some really are. They are not really connected. See the following:

>1 Red states depend on blue states
What is the truth on this? I hear a lot about how red states basically depend on blue states giving them money to survive. A frequent example given is apparently low education in states like West Virginia and really high rates of education in states like Massachusetts. Whats the truth? Do states like West Virginia really depend on blue states for survival?

>2 Gun safety
I see a lot of "studies" saying shit like "People with firearms in their house are more likely to be shot by themselves or their kid shoot themselves" etc. Is any of that true? It seems like some weird statistic magician shit which is why I sort of hate stats sometimes. Mostly because you can never know how the pool of data was even gathered. Did they ask a bunch of sucidal people? Did they ask a bunch of negligent people? Who knows.

>3 Republicans are fascists
I hear that talking point thrown around a lot in general. Probably because I live in a blue state. I don't agree with the statement but why do people even say it? What is a REAL fascist and what is a "fake" fascist I guess? To me, there are no fascist politicians in the USA at least. So when people say "REPUBLICANS ARE FASCISTS!!" what are they really trying to say?

>4 Immigration
When it comes to immigration and ICE dunking on immigrants, who is really being targeted? The major talking point is that ICE is targeting people who are just brown and speak Spanish basically. But I really doubt that. Another friend told me that basically ICE is investigating "tips" so to speak from people actually giving tips as to where groups of illegal immigrants may be congregating. So if they get a tip that says "Group of Immigrants A hang out around this home depot on wednesday." Is that what they are investigating? So what is the reality?
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>>538241859
Unironically the hub of thw universe but also in a bad way. We need to stop asking questions and do everything in our power to teach Scottish people (100k here a few weeks ago now gone) to come back and game the visa system at least equal to the amount of Indians and Brazilians. bTW this OP pic needs to be updated to describe Framingham as Brazil North.

The scotches being here mind-broke this entire region because for once in a life time there seemed like white immigrants had figured out the loop hole.
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1. The data is usually based on gibs use, and ignores the fact that it's not trove if you factor out niggers.
2. It's true if you count suicides. Turns out people who want to die look for efficent means to do so.
3. Fascism was term created by Mussolini, after the symbol of the fasces, which basically means "sticking together as a group". What they are really saying is anyone who is part of any group the left doesn't like is a bad person.
4.ICE is only targeting the egregious criminal elements. It's not to remove immigrants, but to put pressure on the most disruptive ones so the process of making a nation of mutts proceeds more smoothly.
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>>538241859
>3
The level of public discourse in American politics is so degraded to the point that there exists exactly one left-right spectrum that goes something like this:
commies-socialists-lefties-liberals-moderates-conservatives-fascists-nazis
Everyone calls everyone to their left a commie and everyone to their right a nazi. It does not matter that it is intellectually dishonest, completely retarded in political philosophy, and corrosive to both public discourse and intellect, it happens. I think like every republican presidential candidate since Barry Goldwater (a kike) has been called Nazi, Hitler, or worse than Hitler.
tldr Anyone calling a Republican a fascist is retarded and cares only for scoring immediate political points that evaporate with the next news cycle.
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>>538241859
What state is this?
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>>538243837
Fascism fundamentally is the belief that the state/country exists as an end unto itself. It says that outside the state, by which I mean not Massachusetts or NY or Vermont, but the state of Italy or Britain, nothing can exist. Therefore, everything that exists must serve the state, whether it is a business, a political party, a school of art, a tradition, or a religion. There is not a single actual fascist in America who holds public office as a fascist (maybe some basement dweller, but no one who has any real power). Fascism is fundamentally opposed to National Socialism, though they can (and did) work together for a time. Whereas fascism elevates the state above all, NS elevates the folk/race/people/blood above all. Hitler's plan was for the state to become less and less necessary as time went on, though whether that actually would have happened is a point of academic hypothesis. However, because fascism and NS have a certain aesthetic (jack booted thugs, charismatic leaders) and a certain appeal to tradition (the family, marriage), people who get their political theory from (((cinema))) see any expression of pro-government and pro-tradition sentiment as fascist/nazi. The GOP is not fascist. It is a political party composed primarily of three separate ideologies: the religious right, who do not want a separation of church and state, but prefer the church and are therefore not fascists; the libertarians, including big business, who are opposed to the government and therefore not fascists; and the (((neo-cons))), who want to bomb the enemies of Israel, but do not want the US government powerful enough to oppose Israeli influence, and are therefore not fascist.

So when people say 'Republicans are fascists,' or when they say 'Democrats are communists,' they are helpfully informing you that you may disregard their political opinions.
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>>538244069
Massachusetts
Didn't you take 7th grade geography?
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>>538241859
>1
We live in an interconnected country so some parts will produce resources and agriculture (which generally corresponds to the GOP), and some parts will produce services, especially legal and financial (and those areas tend to lean Democratic). There are of course many factors, education and social programs being but two, but I generally assume people know more about their own living situation than I do, so they can be adults and make their own choices. In determining red state vs blue state statistics, make sure to keep The Map™, picrel. Most maps of American sociopolitics is just this map recolored.
>2
>people who own guns are more likely to shoot themselves with a gun they own than are people who do not own guns
Thank you for that. They may also be more likely not to get shot by someone breaking into their home if they can shoot first, but you would need to look at the actual study cited, its wording, its data pool, whether it asks about overall risk, and the relation to suicides.
>4
Not sure, sorry.
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>>538244552
I'm a west coaster. I don't know any of these new england states. I thought it was like new hampshire or something.
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>>538241859
pre "fortification" of the vote.
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>>538241859
what a weak meme map.

probably best they can do.
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>>538246431
What state is this?
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>>538246487
Delaware, first state to the union.
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1. Blue states contribute more federal tax dollars, red states consume more federal tax dollars.
2. People who have access to firearms tend to have more firearm related incidents in their lives than people without.
3. Another post covered this well, you can disregard radicals opinions or side with them whatever.
4. I have personally heard of several restaurants being raided mexican chinese whatever it could be eastern european ive known factories in my area have been raided and they removed primarily s.e.a. peoples from them.
Based off tips typically yes and this opens the workforce up to people legally in our country. Its never fun to see people being disenfranchised, but many people fantasize about it or relish the idea because they are sycophants
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>>538241859
>What is the truth on this? I hear a lot about how red states basically depend on blue states giving them money to survive. A frequent example given is apparently low education in states like West Virginia and really high rates of education in states like Massachusetts. Whats the truth? Do states like West Virginia really depend on blue states for survival?
Explaining to people how the current tax and incentive system works is pointless they will just give you a fluoridated stare.

It's easier to say if I made 200k this year off of AI stocks speculating would you congratulate me as a productive resident of a large east coast city or call me a parasite who produces nothing of value?

The resource basins are in red states. West Virginia in particular has had their economy fucked up by retarded blue state niggers who think we should just print money and not produce anything, even though that's literally voodoo economics.

Ironically liberal tards also hate the stock market, but that's where the bulk of gdp for cities like new york comes from.
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>>538247627
Violence scales inverse to civilian armament you faggot.
Race is the primary determining factor in how criminal a population is.
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>>538248565
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>>538248064
I never said anything about crime you retard i was stating the simple fact that if you have x around then things that happen with x are more likely to happen than if no x existed.
Im not arguing with you it is as simple as that.
Im pro gun its peoples responsibility but accidents do happen and you shouldnt shreek about niggers when the op is talking about the likelyhood of people who have firearms having an incident relating to fire arms.



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