Last year North Dakota tried to abolish property taxes.This year, many more states are doing the same.Do you think zero property taxes will make houses more affordable?https://apnews.com/article/property-tax-homeowners-georgia-florida-texas-dakota-ecc4b10aac512bd62e6f28a964387be5
>>538249317>Do you think zero property taxes will make houses more affordable?Certainly helps. You pay on average 4 times the value of your house in Taxes over 40 years. Think about that. $250,000 modest house. +$250,000 in interest to the Socialist Jew bankers.+1 MILLION in taxes over 40 years on average to the Socialist Jew'd local and state government to pocket. Now just get rid of the Public Indoctrination Centers. Everyone can homeschool for free. Only takes 2 hours a day.
Who gives a fuck, fuck the jobberment.Defund the NOGGERMENT.
>>538249317What? You mean state property tax or local property tax? Did they have both?
>>538249317No taxes actually raise the price of property
>>538249317Property tax has to be the biggest illegal act in human history.>buy home>must pay state's rent in order to maintain ownership of the property>thus not making you truly own the homeIf there is one thing that should be the easiest to abolish, it's most certainly would be property taxes.
>>538249317No. It is just more gerontocracy looting the treasury in their final years.
>>538249317>built in 1908this 120yo house has rotten foundation and its fake ceilings are full of racoon shit
i think theyre a necessary evil, like parking tickets, to keep hoarding under control but they need to be tied to the purchase price and development cost of the actual property not the theoretical value since jews decided the neighbor properties are worth a million times more now
>>538249595counter intuitive but truehttps://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2024/how-higher-property-taxes-increase-home-affordability
>>538249545States usually set statute regarding property taxes levied at the municipal level. In NC it is set out in GS 105, or more commonly known as "The Machinery Act."
While we are at it, let's laugh at boomers.Pic related has been sitting on the market for over 500 days and has not gone down in price, the worst part is that it's on a high flooding zone.
>>538249727But it has new hardwood floors and a modern kitchen!
>>538249317The housing market is garbage by design. TLDR: It's the jews.1) If a house is really cheap, it's because it's a scam. It either has severe damage or miles of baggage; you're going to be paying out the ass for it later. You won't be able to sell it, you won't be able to give it to the city, and you won't even be able to destroy it without going to jail. The only option is to either abandon it, and change your identity so collections can't track you down, or trick the next bagholder into buying it, and pray that he's dumber than you. In short: they're jewish scams. 2) The reason why housing is expensive is because of 4 factors working together to create the perfect storm: 2a) Demand way outpacing supply (largely due to illegals, rental markets, foreign investment, and private equity), all of which trace back to jews.2b) Boomer hoarding. of the family homes, that actually have people living in them, who are legal, and who actually paid for it, those occupants are almost always retarded decrepit boomers. These boomers would would rather die than live in a condo, and sell the house to a young family. They cannot think generationally, even in the face of death. Their plan for after they die is for the house to be bequeathed to the state, or put up for auction so private equity can scoop it up. As long as the ladder is pulled up behind them, that's all they care about. Boomer retardation is famously the work of Jewish subversion in the 60s and 70s.2c) making it impossible to build quality new housing in the US based on thousands of zoning, construction, tax, and permitting laws meant to favor the state. The only builders who can function in this economy are bottom of the barrel; hiring armies of non-verbal low IQ illegals to build death traps. Major players in this field are Jews. 2d) massive inflation making everything expensive. This is the Fed, which is jews.
Sold for $270 back in 2020, fives years later saw a $1500,00 increase in price in the span of five years.Sitting on the market for well over a year now.
>>538249317Property taxes make prices LOWER because they make property less of a good investment. This chases investors out of the market, leaving only people who actually want to live in them as buyers, which lowers prices. If you make Landlording less profitable for example, then some landlords will sell their properties, putting more properties on the market and lowering prices for buyers
>>538249317Interesting
>>538249317>Do you think zero property taxes will make houses more affordable?it will just make boomers sit on their property indefinitely
>>538249434>>538249595>>538250204yes, not taxing property is actually bad, assuming you need to tax anything at all. the guiding principle in all taxation is that you get less of whatever you tax.what we really need to do is stop taxing labor (ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX) and instead only tax property. why? because land is one of the few things that naturally appreciates due to its scarcity, you lose nothing by taxing it. and as others have pointed out, it may actually keep it affordable, which is a good thing because having a place to live should not cost you an arm and a leg. it frees up capital for other produtive useswatch a white man explain all this:https://youtu.be/qROG2uXPChY
>>538250547There was a big flood in Minot, ND in 2012, and buying a house in one half of the town now comes with the fun game figuring out just how badly it got flood damaged. Everyone knows it got at least a little, so sellers try to conceal expensive damage and buyers have to find it or get fucked.
>>538249317No. It's a ploy by private equity to drive up home prices as they suck up supply and sit on it faster than the average home buyer can do. No property taxes means an easier time fleecing people with rentals and not worrying about vacancy
>>538249317>Affordable house>Niggerburg IL
>>538251174Hire a competent home inspector who isn't in bed with the seller or realtor
>>538249434>Now just get rid of the Public Indoctrination Centers.>Everyone can homeschool for free. Only takes 2 hours a day.THIS!
Abolishing property taxes is a cope and won't fix the affordability problems in ND-ND real estate agent
>>538249598You're paying for the services provided to you by the municipality: emergency services, parks, sidewalks, trash facilities, sewage facilities, libraries, animal services, street cleaning, school systems, public infrastructure, planning and zoning boards- these are all partially subsidized (if not wholly) by property taxesYou're free to fuck off ina woods if you want out
houses are for raising families if you can't pay the property tax sell it and buy a smaller place
>>53825176587% White, 2% Black city. Only 2700 people though.
>>538249317People should pay property tax, that's land the people own. It's on a lease from the government.Anything which exploits a common resource should be taxed, excepts one's labor.That money could be used to social programs like feeding and housing the poor.
>>538249317>Do you think zero property taxes will make houses more affordable?No it will literally do the opposite.
Do you know what would make houses a lot more affordable?Stop making every manufactured home be a feudal scam with a fucking 458 dollar a month HOA fee.150k is perfectly affordable for many couples. Yes, they could use some upgrades to their quality so they don't depreciate the same way. But none of that matters until you can OWN the land you live on.In fact if you own a home, it should be LAW that you own the land you live on.Doesn't matter if it has a foundation or not.Doesn't matter if it's a "mobile" homeIf it doesn't have wheels, it's not mobile.End this fucking scam. I would literally own a home and have white children by now if it wasn't for this fucking tax scam.
>>538253107kek thisboomers will just sit on empty houses forever
>>538249317No it will just make boomers able to hold their unreasonable offers for much longer. This actually completely fucks the housing market for decades.
I bet it's all a long game to bring back property taxes higher than ever.
>>538254764This is cogent argumentation. But these things go quicker than a far on a walk to the car during first break.
>>538255365White incel losers cry nonstop about property taxes but immediately cry about boomers if the property taxes are abolished
>>538249317Looks like where a bunch of niggers live.
>>538255417>But these things go quicker than a far on a walk to the car during first break.What?
>>538252779>You're free to fuck off ina woods if you want outno you're not lol. you still have to pay property taxes in the woods too. and if it someone elses land you're getting kicked out and fined or shot.
>>538255473>abolishedThey never have been, you ignorant shitskin larper.
>>538255547If someone posts a single wide on a city lot for less than 150k it is gone in the 3 days it takes you to complete your block of shifts to go on a long distance car ride and look at it. They are like a fart in the wind.
>>538255655That's why we need to build more of them and deport pajeets.
>>538249317It's just a sign that wealth inequality is so bad the gov't can make more money taxing a few rich people than it can by taxing a hundred million poor people. If everyone was doing well paying taxes wouldn't be an issue.
Housing is unaffordable unless you make like 80K a year. Also every home is 200k overpriced.
>>538255590Cry more commie incel , boomers aren't going to give you a free house
>>538249317Isn't this just to attract rich retirees?(bluebirds settling?)When my boomer American friend retired, (a while back) he moved to East TN - climate was a factor>happy wife happy lifeBut to him, being the one paying the bills, low property taxes and low regulations (low, not none) compared to where he came from, made the pick.
>>538255985>wealth inequalityWaaaaah i deserve free shit because i exist
>>538249317>Do you think zero property taxes will make houses more affordable?Yes dummy
>>538256460>Isn't this just to attract rich retirees?Property tax is a huge burden for young families wanting to own a home
>>538249317Of course not. Home prices will just go up further to account for what buyers are able to make for their monthly payments. No property taxes just means they can pay more for the mortgage.
>>538256472But you do.
>>538256568This will happen initially, the market would adjust to fill any sudden change. It'll smooth out over time tho.
>>538256590Doing me is killin commiesIn minecraft
I want to buy a beach rental property and make a business doing seasonal rentals and vending machines along a road. It would be a high trust society area.
>>538249598Property taxes are local, and they are used mostly to fund the schools. If you want low property taxes then move somewhere with nothing but old people and no schools, or move to some shithole with shitty underfunded schools. If you want to live somewhere nice then what is your alternative plan to pay for all of that nice stuff?
>>538256568>>538256497These incels just want to cry about imaginary problems
>>538256651Damn look at them buzzwords son
>>538249317>the answer is always the same:
>>538256648>move or we'll kill you and take your stuffLiteral nigger warlord behavior
>>538249317I can see the termite damage through the poorly angled pictures.
>>538249434>doesn't know what compound interest is>thinks he can teach his kids basic algebra
>>538256545It certainly adds, but I thought the mortgage/ursury would be the heavy burden there.Whereas rich boomers, who already have it made (my narrow point of view here I admit, because rich boomers is the only kind I REALLY know over there) only has to deal with absolutely unavoidably expenses when it comes to Real Estate.
>>538256639Taxes are to allow for people to engage in economic activity even if poor for allowing a society to exist. The government is a cheap business that steps up to employing it's citizens with income revenue from privateering of a common resource. Taxes are a way to say, "If you can't generate this revenue with an asset, we will do you better."Taxes then go to social progams like EBT and Social Security, and neets can survive off gibs. While subsidizing the agricultural industry and the Walton family.
>>538256667Cry more incel its all you excel at
>>538249317Gov shouldn't be able to put a lean on your lived in home just because you don't have the money to pay them, anyone who thinks that ok is a fucking retard
>>538256813>white incel loser from yurofaggotland cries about American property taxes
>>538256813>but I thought the mortgage/ursury would be the heavy burden there.American mortgages are actually pretty goated compared to a lot of countries. Rates are higher right now, but they can still least be fixed whereas taxes can go up every year and you can't really do shit about it
>>538249317there shouldn't be any property taxes for lived in homes or even filled rental units. the current america needs subsidy for housing and not taxes. only a retard who knows nothing of economics or the current state of america would disagree with that.
>>538256904>Gov shouldn'tStill think life is fair idiot?
>>538256904Only if you don't have an income.
>>538249317Corporations have just been banned from owning more than 350 homes - no more gobbling up houses and inflating the market. Millions of illegal shitheads are gone from the country - it's already driving prices down.
>>538249317seriously I dont even care if the neighbourhood is filled with niggers. I want that home so bad for that price. Elon fucking Musk has a TRILLION fucking dollars which takes "fuck you money" to a new extreme and all I want is my own home, my own slice of land in this world with an oven to cook roasts in. At this stage I dont care if its in the ghetto. I will just fight and die if someone breaks in. At least I die happy as a home owner.
>>538256826>um akshully goyim taxes are goodLol fuck off and die in a fire evil kike
>>538256947>subsidy for housing aThat would make it worse tardo
>>538257019>Millions of illegal shitheads are gone from the countryand replaced by millions of pajeets
>>538257019>t. lying remoralization jew
>>538257069you just don't get itwe've got like 50 years tops to turn it around or it can never recover.i guess you are a dumb retarded jew or one of their pets so you are simply willfully blind to how important keeping cost of living down is for the economy
>>538256923>t. anti-White male globohomo jew
>>538257051Give me .0000053 of a 2,500 dollars or else..
>"affordable" housing>its full of indians and spicsWe don't need MORE houses we need LESS people in America
>>538257175>you just don't get it>t. Someone stupid enough to suggest subsidiesLol
>>538257183The fuck are you on about retard
I've come to realize none of this "affordable" bullshit is for actual Americans.I have no idea how many jeets and spics they need to shove in D.R. Hortonslop built last week before you assclowns figure it out.And we definitely don't need to be "subsidizing" these faggots.
>>538251174Mouse River Mayhem, in the middle of the fucking oil boom too.
>>538257284I'm taxing you so I can buy a house with government money.
>>538257268>using force to create an ideal environment for productivity and growth is le badmental child, typical mindset of a libertardian
>>538257182Crybaby white incel loser
>>538257390Ah the nignog deluxe method
>>538257421Yes. Primarily because people as abysmally stupid as yourself have no idea what's good for productivity and growth
>>538255785We don't even need to build more of them, we just need more lots zoned to allow them. People will develop raw land just to put manufactured homes on them, because the home itself is so cheap. But cities flat out refused to zone land to allow for manufactured homes, precisely because doing so reduces housing values for the rest of the city.Housing is a cartel. Housed up boomers are the most active voting bracket. Housed up boomers don't want to see their houses go down in value. Therefore, they vote to keep housing prices up, and politicians follow that in lockstep because if they break rank they lose their next election.In the end, it all comes back to boomers.
>>538249317 Why are you shilling economically dead areas who's real-estate is basically worthless? People move to those places to die.
>>538257467natural selection and if you were intelligent you would understand what i am saying.you just don't get it though because you are a 70 iq subhuman or a jew convinced that he is god
>>538257538>you are a 70 iq subhumanIronic considering it is the 70iq niggers that squeal the loudest for subsidies>OOK OOK GIBS ME DAT FO FREE BIX NOODcongrats you're on the same level as Tyrone and Laquisha
Everyone could be fed for the same budget we spend on the military. No one should be paying for food, it's a human right.
>>538257707Lol fuck off retard
>>538249434>your houseThat's where you're wrong, kiddo.You're leasing it from the state. Always have been. You have never owned and will never own property in this country.
>>538257718Is war a human right?I think we know the answer
>>538257479That's true. All true. Sadly, the only way out of this is to get another chinkvirus.
>>538249317>So far out in the middle of nowhere that it doesn't even have a street view>What little street view there is paints a grim picture where every other building along the main strip is abandoned
>>538258046I saw the same thing. the neighborhood looks white though. There's bikes in lawns too. Good sign. But the whole town is dilapidated and depressing. You have to have a remote tech job to live there.
>>538258046Waaaaaaaah im a snowflake i deserve Beverly hills waaaaaah
>>538249317How does the government plan on replacing all the property tax money they won't be getting, anymore?
>>538259070Your taxes don't go to the government. Your taxes go to the IRS.
>>538259809Wow these white incels really are that dumb
>>538250779Lower-end conservatives who don't hold or exercise power do not understand taxation. You're wasting your breath.
>>538259070https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev2ZqAgblCE
>>538259919You have a memeflag on 4chan which makes you the second biggest faggit on earth behind tripfags. Stop shitting up the world and kys yourself.
>>538260079OK incel
>>538259809fuckingwhat
>>538249317MORE Taxes.There. I said it.
>>538249317No. Every retard thinks his house is his way out of poverty and inflates the price hundreds of thousands above an already unreasonable price. If property taxes are abolished, he'll know people will pay more, so he'll raise the price. Same as rent going up with minimum wage. You literally cannot escape this Jewry unless you enforce price caps on housing.
>>538249317Protip: abolishing taxes on a $500,000 home only helps the rich, not the poor.Politicians will do literally ANYTHING other than just lowering the fucking cost of housing.
>>538249317This is something that needs to go nationwide. I would say that property tax is only valid on second/vacation homes and rental properties. A dwelling, your home, should never be subject to forfeiture due to unpaid rent to the government. You don't even own it if can be seized for such a reason.
>>538260469The government can't just price fix land.We have to deport massive amounts of foreigners if you want cheap houses.Its really that shrimple
>>538260469>manipulate the housing prices so they moon>tax people out of their homes>"hurrrr durrr I don't even have a job and would never buy a house but you have to tax the rich"Retard.
You guys need to live in a shithole that lost the ability to tax its population
>>538249434Yeah, there's really no justification for the public education system anymore. None at all honestly. Kids do WAY better homeschooling. They can form neighborhood groups or even go back to lil red schoolhouses. But our current model is just not cutting it. Kids deteriorate in schools these days. It's a travesty. And they really are nothing but indoctrination centers. Let all tax be associated with the public service it provides. Like gas tax for roads, per mile for electric vehicles.
>>538251226Wouldn't taxing private equity be more effective?
>>538250204Color me shocked! The Federal reserve bank wants to justify property taxes and keep citizens in the status of chattle slaves. I can hardly believe it. It must be true if the federal reserve says so. I bet they feel the federal reserve is a necessary institution that does a lot of good for humanity. And they love puppies.
>>538249317I learned in high school that an inelastic supply like housing increases in price when demand increases. The solution was for Trump to work with Congress in 2017 to pass laws preventing the next president from leaving the border open.
>>538260714Kys commie
>>538249317
>>538257022>Elon fucking Musk has a TRILLION fucking dollarsYeah, he keeps it in a pile in his basement and every night skiis down it like Scrooge McDuck.
>>538250435They had retarded spics put down the cheapest vinyl flooring available in the kitchen and want $140,000 more because of it
>>538260571These commie children have no concept of what owning a house means or how the numbers work. Bunch of poorfags paying for their DoorDash on the installment plan.I fought a tax increase about 12 years ago on my house, which doesn't even have central heating, and the bathrooms/kitchen/windows are original, because the rate they were increasing it would have had my modest place be "worth" a million in another 17 years. That's called being taxed on unrealized gains. It should be illegal. But it's the basis of many local economies. And the government workers and teachers and most of all admins and program staff will ALWAYS vote for it because it funds their jobs, perks, and benefits. The assessment increases are based on the highest sales in your area, and so they invite in developers to pepper upscale small developments or outright McMansions here and there, and it hauls everyone's assessment up up up. They also sell to flippers, which guarantees constant churn and increase. (Unlike people staying in their houses for decades.)And the whole point of course is to pay for an ever expanding bunch of government workers. I pay 30% more in taxes and insurance each month than my mortgage used to be, and the "assessment" has gone up even though I live here, I pay for everything (no public services)
>>538260469>Politicians will do literally ANYTHING other than just lowering the fucking cost of housing.You're a fucking retarded child>da mean man no turn price nob down :(
the one good thing about being British is that my house and the land it sits on belong to me utterly, and the thought of paying property taxes is insane. Short of some obscure eminent domain law which would see the government forced to give me like 4 times the value of it all, there ain't shit they can do.
>>538262257Quiet you or all I set my AC even lower
>>538262588I'll set*
>>538249434>Socialist Jew bankers.Incredible that like trained dogs they continue to blame imaginary socialists for the things that real world capitalists are doing to them.Actual communist china does not have property taxes. You are literally being taxed to subsidize richfags lol.
>>538262257Don't you pay council tax thats the same thing
>>538260569>>538260571>>538262166Listen, we tried the peaceful route for like 25 years now. You're leaving no option but dead families and razed boomer estates.
