I'll just leave this here
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>>538262509Hey, let's put our kids out with 2 years buffer before they can make a living wage. Let's encourage them to sell their assholes on the street until they turn 20 despite the fact that we said we'd stop supporting them at 18. Let's cut their wages to 1/3rd of the minimum wage for most jobs so we can break them in easier. Thanks, Bill. You fucking child raping faggot. Just leave it to you to figure out how to rape kids in more ways than one, I see. Fucking cunt.
>>538262494For no reason at all, the price of goods rose in accordance so anything you gained equals a null proportion.
>>538262494>>538262509>>538262592>a literal screenshot of an ai chat threadHello saar, how's your H1B visa?
>>538262509>>538262494....wouldn't it make more sense to just tax exempt the hours worked?
>>538262494Eh, it's fair. I would have taken a job for $4 per hour when I just graduated high school; minimum was around $10. I worked for free volunteering at different things instead while I applied to apprenticeships, college aid, and explored different paths.
I don't expect sympathy here, and I don't expect a kidfucker wage like depicted, I now work in a better place, with real or at least semi-real wages, but I do want better for the kids, they don't deserve to be told to gtfo at 18 and then be told they can only make less than minimum wage if they try to do so. Don't undercut the kids you throw out of your house, you evil faggots. Be men for once and treat them with respect.
>>538262607Where does this retarded idea come from and why is it usually memeflags who post it?
Basically we're looking at 2 years of 1/3rd of minimum wage authorized by Bill Clinton, at least in Florida, and probably other states as well, because NO your parents didn't kick you out at 18, they kicked you out at 20, right? So those other 2 years are for assfucking and sucking cock. Or soft skills as they call it in modern America.
why use words like "sympathy"?the legislators realized the minimum wage law was preventing young people getting hired, so they had some "sympathy" and made an exemptionyou think it would be "sympathetic" to pass a law requiring they pay teenagers a million dollars an hour, even if it got them all fired, because you're a fucking retard who cares more about signaling than consequences
>>538262651thats how it works here for exampletill 26 nowadays
>>538263195>the legislators realized the minimum wage law was preventing young people getting hiredDid you notice the period is 90 days? This is just a way for businesses to underpay high school students and younger college students working summer jobs despite getting the same amount of work out of them. Your 16 year old son wants to work over the summer and buy himself a car? Go fuck yourself. College sophomore who wants to help offset your tuition while studying full time? Go fuck yourself. As if it wasn't hard enough already for young people to get ahead in anything.
if your parents really kicked you out at 18 then be happy because you will never have to take care of them or even buy them a single present
>>538262494>>538262509>>538262592>>538262778>>538263189the law explicitly states>THE FIRST 90 DAYSafter that the pay goes up, stop being so fucking stupid in thinking it doesnt. this is why you are poor, because you have 0 reading comprehension.
>>538263388>Go fuck yourself. As if it wasn't hard enoughsee, signaling over consequencesyou're not even remotely curious about whether this policy helps restore summer and entry level jobs that have been going to undocumented single mothers insteadbecause of the way you analyze policy, you'd rather zero teenagers enjoy huge theoretical benefits instead of some of them actually getting jobs and experiencethus, we can't discuss whether it's a well targeted policy, or compare it alternatives like austria and poland suggested. no chance for that discussion. you care about signaling instead of the actual consequences of the policy. the same applies to minimum wage in general. you don't care if people get fired, if the law incentivizes more investment in automation, as long as they're promised a bigger number it doesn't matter to you if any of them actually get that benefit. you ought to be disenfranchised until you can pass a basic reasoning test.
>>538263177It's the same idea as "you don't need guns because the state could just blow you up with a drone" just from the Right.Cucks hate the idea of (you) standing up for yourself so they invoke scenarios meant to make you feel helpless.Though personally I like our system of industry & work leaders negotiating Minimum wages on an industry-by-industry basis since that usually shakes out to much more since business is more more scared of strikes than fines (and a worker has more reason to take off the kid gloves than a politician).Our national minimum wage is technically zero.
>>538263511Slave
>>538263511Just don't be able to afford rent for the first 90 days of work. Be homeless for 3 fucking months.
>>538262494At what point will boomers stop bullying zoomers?
You better start working at 10 until 14 when you can legally w2 and keep going but don't spend the money you make unless it is absolutely necessary never on anything you want. You've been warned. But it's too late because you must be 18 here so you are 8 years behind the curve.
>>538263565Feel free to hire at $100 commie hire all niggers at $200
>>538263274Which administration introduced that?
>>538263608>Muh nursing Also I realized something.Jews don't actually hate white people more than, say, Asians.They hate everyone that isn't them.It's just that whites are the only race so emotionally maladaptive they could be scammed into wiping themselves out.
>>538263534>surely reducing wages will increase the labor participation rateThere's a reason I didn't bother mate.
>>538264505you have an opportunity to learn how labor price floors reduce employment.but you aren't curious about the effects of policy on unemployment. you're interested in signaling, not consequences.
>>538264807And I keep telling you there's not some massive backlog of teenagers who want a job but can't get one because illegal aliens are cheaper. They're not competing directly for jobs, and while they do indirectly depress wages for unskilled labor the result of that has been a ~20% decrease in employment for minors. Allowing employers to hire minors for even less than illegals is of no value because it's not solving the problem that actually exists - minors losing interest in wage labor because rates are too low. It may incentivize employers to 'buy' citizen workers, but it does so by creating a fixing prices down below a point that's already causing 'sellers' to leave the market. The practical result of this will be even lower participation, even more crying to let illegals in to do the jobs Americans don't want to do, and a worse deal for poor kids and people between the ages of 18-20 who have no choice but to sell their labor. I don't understand how you could think it would have any other result.
>>538262494a 19 year old kid could come to my aerospace company and apply, and if they genuinely tried, they would be able to keep their job and get paid pretty decently. Our company is dying for younger ppl, even if they aren't trained or anything. Issue is, 9/10 new hires just want to be there long enough to get unemployment. They all shown up late all the time and work harder at not doing their job, than just doing it. idk why. It's pretty easy actually. I guess the decent zoomies are intimidated ? they don't like putting big Lego sets together? working in a air-conditioned and extremely clean environment is offensive? idk man these kids seems dumb
>>538265933>And I keep telling you there's not some massive backlog of teenagers who want a job but can't get one because illegal aliens are cheaperwe never actually discussed that>They're not competing directly for jobsyes, they arethese are skillless positions, the defining feature is that a teenager with no experience can do it.if you institute a price floor on labor why would I hire a teenager? for that money I can get someone with an adult brain, with two anchor babies to feed, whose children's lives and future in this country depend on being a good slave to me. the teenager's just going to fuck off at the end of summer, if not in the middle of a shift, because he isn't desperate and hasn't learned adult responsibility left.you don't want to discuss the impact of a floor on labor price.you don't care if higher minimum wages decrease employement. the discussion never gets that far. if someone proposed raising the minimum wage for teenagers to $200 an hour you would call it a moral imperative and insult me for disagreeing, without ever attempting to make an argument. you live an unexamined life. start asking questions about the topic and I will share the benefit of my knowledge with you. I don't need you to preach the gospel of feels, while america's teenagers give up their early workforce training opportunities to guatemalan single mothers. I don't care about your opinions on policy when your opinions have clearly never been tested in debate.
>>538262494>>538262509>>538262592Asking retardGPT to make a post for you should be illegal but jannies are trannies so…
>>538266254>these are skillless positions, the defining feature is that a teenager with no experience can do it.Foreigners do not generally do the same unskilled jobs teenagers do. Leftoid framing aside this article's numbers check out.https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/immigrant-and-native-workers-compete-different-low-skilled-jobs>if you institute a price floor on labor why would I hire a teenager? ...the teenager's just going to fuck off at the end of summer, if not in the middle of a shift, because he isn't desperate and hasn't learned adult responsibility left.Because you need to hire somebody and turnover in your industry is probably extremely high anyway.>with two anchor babies to feed, whose children's lives and future in this country depend on being a good slave to meIdeally this would be because it gets your business seized and you thrown in prison, but under the current system you are correct about the economic logic as long as the illegal is actually a viable substitute, although as previously stated this isn't necessarily the case. You can't put someone who barely speaks English on a cash register, for example. You also can't legally employ the teenager at your sawmill or slaughterhouse though.>you don't want to discuss the impact of a floor on labor price.Yeah because it's irrelevant to this issue. Prove me wrong instead of just telling me I don't want to discuss it.
>>538266781>Foreigners do not generally do the same unskilled jobs teenagers dobase rate fallacyforeigners typically work on farms and shitalso, undocumented single mothers have wholly replaced teenagers in their former niche of unskilled and temporary labor (inlcuding those roles on farms that used to be reserved for teenagers)your truth determining process is hopelessly broken, you need a class in logic before you start combing through AIbots for confirmation bias>Because you need to hire somebodythis doens't address the core point at all.in the past I could have hired a desperate adult but I would have had to pay more. now I have no choice but to pay more. you haven't addressed this because you can't.>Ideally this would be because it gets your business seized and you thrown in prison, but under the current system you are correct about the economic logic as long as the illegal is actually a viable substitute, although as previously stated this isn't necessarily the case. You can't put someone who barely speaks English on a cash register, for example.god bless you and your sheltered life outside the american southwestthis is an example of post hoc reasoning, instead of addressing the fact that teenage jobs have been widely supplanted by immigrants directly, you reached for something that sounded good but in practice did not save those teenage jobs from being replaced by immigrants>>you don't want to discuss the impact of a floor on labor price.>Yeah because it's irrelevant to this issue. Prove me wrong instead of just telling me I don't want to discuss it.there was nothing to prove before because you refused to discuss it, you had made no claim for me to disprove.now you challenge me to prove a price floor on labor incentivizes business to hire fewer, more highly skilled workers, and that it incentivizes them to invest more at the margins on labor saving technologies? or what, you'll continue being wrong? ingrate.
>>538262494Whats the point of working? I'll never have a girlfriend or own my own home.
>>538262592Lucky I have Italian parents they'll support you until you're 30. But I still went abroad to study and work for a chance at freedom. I got assistance throughout until 30 years old then I was officially an adult.I have my issues with my family but thank god I'm from a good culture.
>>538263511>consecutive>Fire zoomzoom after 89 days>Timer resetsAnd of course, the federal government has just the job for you to avoid starving, goy. Enlist today and die for Israel!
>>538262494Im not interested in paying taxes to, and supporting a system of, pedophilia and Semitism. Your flag is anti-Amerixan.Your Constitutio is selectively applied, your courts legalized murder and theft, your lawmakers kneel to foreign powers, your "People" are the enemy of Amerixa.
