There are 2 perceptions of reality:Perception A: (End of History Theory)>The rise of liberal democracy + capitalism in the west during the 20th century is permanent. It will never go away for as long as humanity exists. And therefore every decision about humanity must and will be taken by the west. And every war waged by the west is justified and will be won by the west.Perceotion B: (Realist/Natural Theory)>political and economic systems come and go, as history never stops. Every nation has its Golden Age period, and its Times of Troubles. Nothing is set in stone, and everyone is to carve his own path.The people supporting Ukraine and Israel believe in Theory A.The people supporting Russia, China, Iran believe in theory B.
False dichotomy that is based on elite theory assumptions.Here is a possible CNobody cares, nobody is supported
>>538267893>Here is a possible C>Nobody cares, nobody is supporteddo you see evidence of theory C?
>>538268029Yes. Reach of elitists narrative through 20th century broadcast media under 10% in the relevant population and the relevant demographic abandoning public online platforms for hyper specific closed niche channels. Its the reality for 18-30, the 30-45 is 50/50 split and the 45+ is the last group still falling into your category 1/2 as a majority
I'm all in on B.
>>538268853>Yes. Reach of elitists narrative through 20th century broadcast media under 10% in the relevant population and the relevant demographic abandoning public online platforms for hyper specific closed niche channels. Its the reality for 18-30, the 30-45 is 50/50 split and the 45+ is the last group still falling into your category 1/2 as a majorityso to translate to normal human language your wordsalad:most people in the west are too retarded to understand theories, so they choose to focus on celebrities and labubus
>>538267893Here is a DYou are a kike
>>538269356>T-they are stupid reeeeeeeeeeNigger, if somebody ignores your yapping or values it as worthless, what is your influence on that individuals perception. Non at all. >>538269407Tell us more about the jew moohamhead
>>538267824I believe in A But support Russia am I just retarded?
>>538267824I don't see why your geopolitical ties would be correlated with your ai prognosis.
>>538269470>Nigger, if somebody ignores your yapping or values it as worthless, what is your influence on that individuals perception. Non at all.you haven't proposed any theory other than "Theory C: total ignorance"yes yes we know that ignorant people exist on this planet, big surprise
>>538267824What if I hate all those countries you mentioned?
>>538269844You frame it as ignorance, I frame it as espistemic hygiene. And you screeching >iGNorANt bigot reeeeeeeAre actively increasing the amount of people ignoring you. You are applying the exact pseudo elitist theory playbook that has broken the left liberals epistemic influence neck over the past decade
>>538270092>espistemic hygieneget a therapistnot knowing the basics of political literature doesn't make you cool or smart
>>538270442>Y-you crazy if you don't take my 20th century broadcast methodology seriously >Pick your elite to believe inI rather ignore them, like 100% of the culturally relevant demographic
>>538270527>I rather ignore them, like 100% of the culturally relevant demographicyes, and then you're thrown into a trench, given a rifle with no ammo, and told "either you go fight, or i will shoot you right now"
>>538270660>B-be afraid Lol. Lets look at the recent empirical evidence of that bullshit. Ukraine lost several million of its population that just defected. Its collaborator are actively hunter and killed. Its war is primarily fought with mercenaries The 20th century elite theories are done for Ivan. In the west as in your shitholes. Putin better throws that nigger fast on kiew or he might really end up in a ditch fragged by a random nobody that eas fed up with his espistemic community
>>538270788>recent empirical evidenceyeah, lets look at the recent 20 years of history, and ignore 5000 years of history>b-but sir, I am epistemically hygienic, you can't do this to someone like me!>you'll be epistemically dead if you don't rush the enemy position. I'll start the countdown: 5, 4, 3, 2....>ok yes my lord, I will rush the position, bless your heart>*dies*
>>538270839What is the difference between the last 20 years and the previous 3000 years? I tell you, the top down empistemic authority of knowledge and meaning production got destoyed worse than after Gutenberg came up with the printing press. That shit still had barriers of entry to production and distribution of information. The internet has non. The Catholic church was able to make a deal with protestant princes, yesterdays pseudo elite has no counter party to make a deal, you cannot make a deal with anarchy
>>538270929nigger, Ukrainians are en masse being beaten up and kidnapped from the streets by the state, in order to refill military ranks that are drying up.You will be too, once the time comes
>>538270929Taludic dialectic shut the fuck up non of what you say matters
>>538270967Ah lol, the Russian propagandist is trying to do the job for the NATO propagandist. Usually its the other way around.Millions are already gone, those that remained are actively attacking the recruiters, not just a few of their private residences got burned down
>>538271023Tell me, with who is a yesterdays pseudo elite going to make a deal with to regain some power over a flock that was lost? Some streamer that is mocked non stop? Some random social media account that gets 100k bot impressions? A random anon? There is no counter party. Its anarchy, and anarchy doesn't consider yesterdays pseudo elite as a relevant party to even talk with
>>538267824lame thread, shit OP, no substance
>>538271045>Millions are already gone, those that remained are actively attacking the recruiters, not just a few of their private residences got burned downyeah, I guess you still don't understand what a State is.I'm attaching a photo of your comrade
>>538271145The "modern" state failed. The only thing still keeping the illusion of order is the self regulation of the 50+ demographic.Look at Australia, apparently their is a paper law that bans minors, children from social media, still after 7 months in effect, massive marketing, 98% of minors are still on social media. Neither platforms, nor isps nor the population cooperate with the state
>>538267824>Perception A: (End of History Theory)>The rise of liberal democracy + capitalism in the west during the 20th century is permanent. It will never go away for as long as humanity exists. And therefore every decision about humanity must and will be taken by the west. And every war waged by the west is justified and will be won by the westThis sounds worse than having your entire lineage made into slaves and be eternally raped for the pleasure of jewish overlords, in every metaphysical sense....Oh, wait...yeah that is exactly what that is. I have a solution, however. A final one, you could say.
>>538271106Their opinion doesn't matter they are cattle its like being concerned with what the pig thinks when you cut his throat
>>538269470Shut the fuck up and kill yourself and the entire dysgenic subhuman pack of child-raping niggers you call a tribe. Kikeshills have destroyed this board's rep.
>>538271123Agreed
>No you see communism is le goodKill yourself.
>>538271386Your matter neither, fail meme spammer. Neither does mine. Informational anarchy is equal to total informational entropy. Nobody has macro scale influence
>>538271229>The "modern" state failed. The only thing still keeping the illusion of order is the self regulation of the 50+ demographic.you could have spared everyone their time, and started with an opening line in your first post "I do not believe in a world of States. I'm an ancap"
>>538271772It has nothing to do with belief. Its an empirical observation. So if you feel like it you are free to have virtual order coerce you into compliance and licking boots, only yourself to blame
>>538271668Yes they do but the world isn't ruled by laws and systems it's really controlled by signs and symbols
>>538271839And signs as symbols that are not able to reach a critical mass and loss meaning to a majority are no longer relevant. They are noise
>>538271839Your fail meme spamming is a perfect example. Nobody knows what it means it just identifies you as a shill
>>538271905The masses don't even know they are being programmed by them it's similar to hypnosis but now a refined science on a mass scale >>538271933And always posting a picture with commenting meme spamming
>>538271834>It has nothing to do with belief. Its an empirical observation. So if you feel like it you are free to have virtual order coerce you into compliance and licking boots, only yourself to blameyou're all talk and no actionmeantime migrants all over europe are raping and killing women who could have been your potential girlfriends.go solve the problem.Oh, you can't? But I thought you were smart and allpowerful
>>538271933Its like retards didn't learn the lesson of the left liberal idiots non stop spamming nazi at everything they didn't like. Hyperinflationary use of symbols in a decentralized epistemic environment blunts the sign into meaninglessness
>>538272032You are an idiot >>538272040You are a retard spamming a script. You could be replaced by a bot
>>538267824psyopped and cucked NPC's support theory Asentient human beings with an ounce of critical thinking and common sense support theory B
>>538272075>You are a retard spamming a script. You could be replaced by a botso in the end you have no argument, is that a yes/no?
>>538272139Since when did Russia re-established its shill farms. Or are you just a nato cuck larping as Russian in a last desperate attempt to have your contract re-newed
>>538272075Study hypnosis and watch media closely you'll see it
>>538272204So its the latter Retarded nato shills larping as Russian shills
>>538272206>Since when did Russia re-established its shill farms. Or are you just a nato cuck larping as Russian in a last desperate attempt to have your contract re-newedyou just pissed yourself in front of everyone by claiming you are theory C, and then proceeded to attack everyone who disagrees with theory Aas I told you beforeit's therapist time
>>538272210Your "Media" hardly reaches 10% of the relevant demographic. Behavioralism is charlatanerie not deterministic science
>>538272255Your colleagues fucked up nato shillYou need to better coordinate larping as Vodka Niggers
>>538272306>Your colleagues fucked up nato shill>You need to better coordinate larping as Vodka Niggersoh no, not the shills or the vodkas, your safe space is violated now
>>538272273>media only reaches 10% of the demographic Media is in everyone's face more then ever
>>538272365You can spam as many fail memes as you like, retard. No effect You are a waste of budget
>>538267824problem with this is that you never lived in a liberal democracy because it doesn't exist. Everyone in the west lives in capitalism, liberal democracy is just a lie that is told because entire society is based on system's fairness and equality and you can't be equal if politics are bought by the highest bidder.
>>538272417The thread is dead retard. Its going to be reviewed and the budget getting gutted more
>>538272388Deflection media has its hold on more people then ever information overload is artificial and can be controlled if needed
>>538272417>liberal democracy is just a liefully agree with thatbut when i say "liberal democracy" i am referring to western kleptocracy
>>538272455You are totally stuck in the 10s and desperately trying to justify your existence fail shill. And with every post you deliver the exact reason why you are a waste of resources
>>538272445stfu, faggot. Nobody likes you.
>>538272520And what should care about a pixel on a screen on a dead shill imageboard for retards like you to fake data to justify your budget liking me? Nigger you are not humans you are pixels on a screen with no effect
>>538272504Sounds like projecting I never tried to justify myself I just explained there is a secret set of rules most people don't even know they follow and you sperged out
>>538272601You should spam more 2010 shill image macros exclusively still spammed by you. You are only one thing and one thing alone, identifying yourselves and by that rendering your propaganda meaningless
Seriously how fucking incompetent does a shill farm have to be to identify itself non stop on an anonymous imageboard
As somebody studying propaganda as a hobby that is what makes me angry, you fucking incompetence. Thinking that state actors spend billions on incompetence that has the exact opposite effects of intended is what shows me that the state fucking failed completely
>>538272655Sorry you are a nigger and can't put in the 2 seconds to post a picture with your comment newfag
>>538272784Nigger here go add this to your report and get your 0.001 dollar for the reply It was not read
>>538272765put down the drink, schizo faggot. Your ramblings are retarded.
>>538272866Here, you also get 0.001 dollar for a non read post. No wonder that your colleagues got gutted after the review.You are the "incompetence crisis"
>>538272206Did your Russian boyfriend stop texting you after he found out you're not a woman? Why so paranoid? Did you take your meds today? That only confirms you're from group A, enjoy having a jewish fist up your ass controlling you like a muppet like you do in Jewrope.
>>538267824you're fucking retarded. i don't support anyone in any foreign war.
>>538272955At least the NATO failure larping as Russian shill comes clean. Don't add that to your report or you might be gutted like mikes crew
>>538272765You study propaganda about propaganda you don't see behind the curtain
>>538267824>The people supporting Ukraine and Israel believe in Theory A.>The people supporting Russia, China, Iran believe in theory B.What about people supporting only Iran, and not caring about others? In case of Ukr-rus conflicts I hope they both lose. China is foreign entity, both economically and culturally. Only thing going in their favor is they are not totaly jewed (yet). However chinks themselves are semi jews.
>>538268029>evidence of the existance of C theoryI believe in it therefore it existsCheck mate
>>538269844>ignorancethat means not knowing or understanding >not caring that means apathy. they’re not even close to the same. you’re a retarded nigger
>>538272999You're either a fucking retarded junkie high on opioids or you're literally a bot, anyways, fuck you, just for not supporting the filthy kikes and their faggotry doesn't make me a shill for any side, once you find out is no way to ignore it, for me the thing that activated my critical thinking was researching 9/11 as a teenager since that shit always felt off to me and from there it has been a deep trip down the rabbit hole, though you'll never understand, you're not even sentient or just with the brain too fried on prescription drugs to even realize it for yourself so you need your government to spoon feed you information and tell you what to think about that information and who to hate based on that thought.
>>538273571Not apathy. That would imply that what the retard is trying to sell has any macro meaning. You framing it as apathy, so negative, (how about you use the largely failed propaganda meme ofb"learned helplessness" next time), shows you are as much an idiot as the shill, shill. It has no meaning, its irrelevant what the shill tries to sell