People are making colossal errors when analyzing the destruction of foreign aidForeign aid has become the topic of the day on Twitter. Like most conversations on Twitter, this one has become a giant dumpster fire. Perhaps this comparison is unfair to dumpster fires, which have the virtue of destroying garbage, rather than elevating it as Einstein-esque genius. Nuanced and sensible answers have been enveloped in a blaze of callousness, nonsense, and basic errors in reasoning. In large numbers, people are either not grasping basic points or pretending not to grasp them.It’s been annoying seeing supposedly serious public intellectuals make such basic and obvious errors. It’s really a stark reminder that success as a public intellectual can exist alongside severely impoverished intellect. Worst of all, these basic mistakes have been weaponized in defense of a very bad cause, the child-killing decimation of foreign aid. The recent debacle has been illustrative of how profoundly politics can warp people’s brains and cause them to behave in a way that is both immoral and idiotic.1 Did anyone die? It began with Elon doing what he often does, saying something false:>pic related
>>538296426Now, it is obvious that if you “feed into the woodchipper” https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886307316804263979 a bunch of programs that provide medicine to sick children in large numbers, this will cause a non-zero number of deaths. This holds even if you think it was good policy overall. Every major policy change causes a non-zero number of deaths. If Elon is not aware of this fact, he is sufficiently ignorant about how the political world works that he shouldn’t be trying to influence it. Fortunately, Nicholas Kristof came with the receipts. He listed the names of many of the children who died as a result of the cuts. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/15/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-impact.html
>>538296575You’d think that this would be an open-and-shut case. Elon says no one can name names. Kristof, who did the reporting, names some names. Case closed. Sadly, it has not been. The response from Elon’s countless defenders has been simply to change the subject. Here is one of the top replies:
>>538296575That is the problem with supplying fish: if you cannot supply fish forever, and they did not learn how to fish, then when your fish run out *boom* millions of children die. It was your own fault for supplying fish in the first place - the policy needs to be teaching to fish, and only teaching to fish. No supplying fish.
>>538296426if one single American child dies of hunger, we should not be giving other countries aidi don't care if you have video and forensic evidence that they died directly because of foreign aid cuts, they should not be getting a dime until America is made whole
>>538296705Remember the topic of dispute: Elon said no one died from the cuts. Kristof shows that’s wrong. There’s a separate debate to be had about how blameworthy Elon is—whether what he did is akin to killing vs merely failing to save. But that is separate from Kristof’s simple point that some people died. All talk about Elon’s degree of culpability is an obvious distraction. Konstantin Kisin weighed in to say: https://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/2071594480885440814 >This is why no one in any Western country can cut any welfare spending ever and why we keep going further and further into debt.>Because any time anyone reduces spending on anything, an example can be wheeled out of a person who suffered or even died as a result.Obviously one should sometimes enact policies that lead to some people dying. But if you have better memory than a goldfish, you will remember that Kristof’s point was in response to Elon disputing that cutting USAID led to any deaths. How culpable that makes Elon is a separate topic. Kisin followed his initial commentary up with, “I am making the point that saying a policy led to the deaths of innocent people is not a sensible way to analyse complex policy debates.”This is confused. It is obviously relevant whether a policy led to deaths. That doesn’t settle whether it’s good policy, of course. Every policy will lead to some deaths. But it’s one of the things worth considering. If a policy leads to a million deaths, that makes it worse than an otherwise similar policy that does not. Kisin seems unable to distinguish between “we should weigh lives lost when evaluating policy” and “any policy that leads to any deaths is bad.”
>>538296793That is extremely immoral especially since “American” barely means anything, someone born on a plane flying over usa is automatically an American citizen >>538296747USAID saved lives through mostly medical, food aid can create dependency yes which is why food aid was first things like temporary disasters or refugees
>>538296426too many peoplebillions must dieespecially pajeets and chinks
>>538296826Morally culpable? Here is how the moral debate has been playing out on Twitter:>Liberal: Elon Musk killed millions of people.>Conservative: LOL, as if. Not saving people isn’t the same as killing them. By this logic, you have killed lots of people by failing to give to effective charities.I think both of these positions are a bit too quick. Undeniably, Elon Musk did something that led to a lot of people dying. But whether his actions count as killing is a matter of philosophical debate. Still, I think there’s a strong case to be made that his actions were more like killing than failing to save. Even if they’re more like failing to save, they were still very bad.First, why might his action count as killing? Well, traditionally Congress has power over spending and shutting down agencies. So there’s a reasonable case to be made that Elon behaved unlawfully. Even if he did not, he behaved in some ambiguous gray zone of legal activity.Notably, Elon wasn’t just choosing not to give his own money to save lives overseas. He was blocking existing lifesaving government programs in a way that was both haphazard and illegal. If someone is driving an ambulance to a hospital and you direct them to stop working. This leads to the death of the person in the ambulance. Presumably, you are on the hook for killing someone.Alternatively, imagine that there’s a hospital that is saving a bunch of lives. You seize control of the hospital by taking a series of legally dubious actions. You order the hospital to stop treating patients. Arguably, you are on the hook for killing. What you did isn’t the same as simply failing to save people.One reasonably accurate test for whether a person is responsible for killing: this: would their alleged victims have been alive had they not acted instead of doing as they did? Ted Bundy killed people, because had he not taken the actions that he did, his victims wouldn’t have died when they did.
>>538296575>Niggers dying is a priori badI don't think so mate
>>538297062Failing to donate is different because it doesn’t leave you counterfactually responsible for any deaths. There aren’t extra people dead because of how the person who failed to donate acted. Even this test is imperfect, though it’s a reasonable heuristic. For more details about this sort of thing, I recommend Shelly Kagan’s book The Limits of Morality.>>538296986Overpopulation and mass starvation was predicted long ago but never happened because of technological advances
>>538297118It is Racism and speciesism are dumb https://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/NameTheTrait
>>538296937>That is extremely immoral
>>538297142By this standard, Elon killed people—had he never existed, there are lots of extra people who’d be alive today. If you want to see a more detailed case for this being the correct analysis, see my article here. https://benthams.substack.com/p/foreign-aid-cuts-are-more-like-killing Remember, there were people left with medical devices inside of them because of Musk’s actions. https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-face-impossible-decisions-u-s-aid-freeze-halts-clinical-trials Surely, taking active steps so that medical devices are left inside people midway through treatment isn’t exactly the same as not giving your money to charity.But let’s suppose Elon’s actions weren’t equivalent to killing but were more like letting die. Does this mean he’s off the hook? No. It’s bad when people die. The only reason millions of people aren’t going to die (probably) is that Elon wasn’t successful in destroying foreign aid. And still, his actions very likely led to large numbers of predictable deaths.If the U.S. can prevent very bad things from happening at small cost, it should. It would have been good to stop the Rwandan genocide, for example, if we could have done so easily. Similarly, one of the big upsides of intervening in World War II was stopping the Nazi holocaust. It is good to prevent bad things from happening, even if you don’t stop every bad thing in the world. If a hundred thousand children were drowning in pools, and you eliminated the program that would have pulled them all out, that would be very bad, even if it isn’t the same as killing.
>>538297142yes but this time is different kek
>>538297359Common-sense morality isn’t consequentialist. It holds that consequences are among the things that matter, but they’re not the only thing. In terms of bad consequences, the USAID termination is just about the worst policy that happened in my lifetime. So if consequences matter at all, this was very bad. And remember: the impact on the federal budget of DOGE’s activities was negligible, and the impact on the deficit was negative. So this was a very large number of deaths caused without any upside. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/6/has-doge-really-saved-the-us-government-180bnNow, for what it’s worth, I do think that ordinary people are culpable for failing to donate effectively. Your donations can save lives. When you don’t donate, it’s like you’re walking past a drowning child. You are letting someone die when you could have saved their life.This doesn’t mean we are obligated to spend every single penny on donations. https://benthams.substack.com/p/there-is-exactly-one-good-objection If there were enormous numbers of drowning children—too many to save them all—you wouldn’t have to forego all pleasure and dedicate your whole life to saving them. But you would be obligated to make saving them a major life project. If giving to life-saving charity is similar, then we’re obligated to do a lot more than we mostly do. I hope you’ll join me in giving away at least 10% of your income to effective charities (though I give a good amount more) and taking the Giving What We Can pledge. https://benthams.substack.com/p/why-i-just-took-the-giving-what-we?utm_source=publication-search>>538297429Why’s that? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
>>538296937>USAIDFound the problem. Hope they removed it permanently and comprehensively
>>5382975113 How many deaths? Did Elon’s actions lead to millions of deaths? Some early studies predicted that they would.But these generally had serious methodological problems and assumed a total dismantling of foreign aid rather than the mere sizeable cuts we’ve actually seen. We’ve also gotten some new evidence against the early extreme projections of USAID deaths. Data from South Africa doesn’t show an uptick in deaths.
>>538297219>Racism and speciesism are dumbIf they're so dumb why did evolution make them such strong impulses? It seems rather dumber to maintain masses of useless eaters in the name of arbitrary abstract ideals.
>>538297511Not America's job to feed infinity niggers in Africa.Kill yourself, post haste.
>>538297576Humans are apes and apes are tribal.If goyslop is bad for you then why does the brain love sugary, super salty or super fatty oily ultra processed food? Why do human brains like powered cocaine instead of tea made from coca leaves?
>>538297574I grant that this is some evidence against the higher-end estimates. But in light of earlier estimates predicting many deaths, the amazing effectiveness of foreign aid in general, https://www.cgdev.org/blog/how-many-lives-does-us-foreign-aid-save problems with the data, https://x.com/salonium/status/2071573589912879369 and specific reporting on deaths caused, we’re still probably looking at high estimates of deaths. Also, South Africa has more functional institutions than other African countries, so they’re better able to respond to cuts.Ultimately, this leads me to be more skeptical of the highest estimates. But we’re still likely in for a lot of deaths. We’ll have to wait and see when data comes in from other countries. Even if it only leads, on the low end, to 100,000 annual deaths—a lot lower than many of the estimates—this would still be almost an Iraq war’s worth of deaths over the course of four years. That’s a lot of pointless death.Someone well-versed in statistics should try to come to a comprehensive estimate of lives lost from USAID cuts. Though it is great news that it looks like some of the highest estimates were too high.
>>538296426>become the topic of the day on TwitterSo fuck off back to twitter. If I want to see what you retards think I'll sign up for an account there and come join you.
>>5382978514 Other errors Many other influential people have jumped in to say wrong things. For example, here is a statement from Gad Saad—perhaps the single man in America whose confidence is least accurately apportioned to his competence.
>>538297930Reply: obviously Kristof does not have the power to prevent all deaths anywhere in the world. That claim is ridiculous. Also, when there are many different actions that save lives, you aren’t culpable for all the ones you don’t pick—you can, after all, only pick one. This isn’t like axing DOGE, because the money didn’t go into saving comparable numbers of lives. In addition, as described before, there is a distinction between not saving lives and actively sabotaging existing life-saving programs.Gad is evidently trying to make a parody argument—that the same moral calculus that says Musk is blameworthy also says everyone in the world is blameworthy for every death. But this parody is unsuccessful because the factual claim he’s making is obviously false, he ignores the distinction between doing and allowing, and he ignores the obvious fact that there’s a big difference between not spending on some life-saving programs in order to spend on others, and not spending on any life-saving programs.
>>538296426How come no other country took upon the task of paying for this stuff?And how come after 65 years of help, the only thing achieved is having tens of million more to feed?
>>538298007Reply: that was not Kristof’s claim. Kristof noted that when Elon abruptly shut off the services providing fuel for ambulances, leading to someone dying, that meant his actions caused a death. Apparently noting the effects of actions is “the most grotesque moral blackmail” Rufo has ever seen.
>>538297729Difference is, everyone knows about the long-term health outcomes of consuming goyslop and drugs. The long-term outcomes of maintaining populations that can't feed themselves are becoming clear now, too: migration movements of the surplus population to white countries, bringing along an enormously disproportionate tendency toward crime and welfare abuse.
Leftists don't actually give a shit about starving nigger kids in Africa. They are mad because they were using USAIDs to funnel billions of US taxpayer dollars to (((NGOs))) which then funded almost all of the far left faggotry of the last few decades, and then Elon shut it down.They don't care about sending food to Africa, they want money for drag queen story hours and pallets of bricks at nigger riots.
>>538298064Other countries were you idiot. https://www.developmentaid.org/news-stream/post/206934/what-the-collapse-of-usaid-has-cost-the-world>“2025 was the first time in nearly 30 years that the U.S., the UK, France, and Germany cut their aid contributions at the same time.” This produced a roughly 17% decline in total global aid. So taking into account the follow-on from other countries, America’s actions may have an even larger death toll, perhaps in the millions annually.https://www.bond.org.uk/news/2026/01/one-year-on-from-trumps-usaid-freeze-the-sector-faces-a-changed-global-aid-landscape/
>>538296826>If a policy leads to a million deaths, that makes it worse than an otherwise similar policy that does notYou shouldn't be making policy in other countries. End of story.
>>538298064Theres many other metrics of improvement like GDP, infant mortality rates going down poverty rates decreasing etc Charities like GiveDirectly show that direct cash transfers help remove “slack” in local economies by helping people to do things like start new businesses and invest which multiples every dollar donated
>>538298084Immigrants in the United States are good for the economy and would be good for the economy in Western European countries too if they had less of a welfare state
>>538298395Thats what ended the slave trade hundreds of years ago
>>538298395This.Either these countries are fully independent and responsible for their own citizens, or they're not and should formally cede control of their territories to the US.
>>538298081Yes, it is a “hidden premise” that African countries often have bad governments that aren’t able to fund life-saving services. This is a dark truth that they don’t teach you in lib school—you have to go to UATX to learn it. Chris Rufo is the first to uncover this worldview-destroying bombshell.
>>538297062>If someone is driving an ambulance to a hospital and you direct them to stop working. This leads to the death of the person in the ambulanceNobody directed the ambulance to stop working. Not helping =/ Impeding
1. The purpose of DOGE was to dismantle every engine of government that was a check on elon's fraud and scams while also providing his companies and models with the private data of every US citizen. It was declared to save trillions but then they settled for a few million in savings before everyone realized it will cost TENS OF BILLIONS and years to repair the damage done.2. USAID, apart from being humanitarian thing that reduced human suffering, was a strong form of soft power that gained America greater influence in regions we want to have influence in. If we want a base or if we want the resources in a country USAID gives us the leverage needed. That influence is now China and Russia's. End result: USA is far weaker and our enemies are stronger3. Taken together, DOGE/Elon stroke a fatal blow against American hegemony to enrich himself, turning us closer into a banana republic with unchecked oligarchs. He paid Trump $300 million for the privilege and it paid off.
>>538298681Liberals have indeed asked why nations are dysfunctional. https://x.com/besttrousers/status/2071766313429573950 In fact, there are a number of books on the subject. Most are by liberals. Surely Rufo knows this. But whatever the cause of nations’ dysfunctionality, it is still good to save lots of people’s lives. Analogy: if a child is drowning because their nation is too dysfunctional to put fences around pools, it is still good to pull them out of a pond so that they don’t drown.This is one thing that irritates me about many right-wingers. They act like there is some collection of dark truths that they know which liberals won’t admit to. Usually, these “truths” are either banal and widely-known or false. They then act like correctly analyzing every single policy depends on knowing these truths—usually without any explanation of why this would be. Their attempts to explain the connection between these hidden “truths” and policy tend to be full of edginess and innuendo but wholly bereft of substance.
>>538297062>You order the hospital to stop treating patientsExplain where did the cuts included demanding foreign hospitals to stop treating patients.
>>538298763If you actually investigate this claim, what happened was that the Taliban stole a tent https://x.com/Care2much18/status/2072129192792084581 provided by USAID. USAID did not buy a tent for the Taliban. I think it is a bit alarming that the richest man on Earth provides a non-stop firehose of easily-debunked lies.
>>538298824Here>>538297359
>>538298258>Other countries were you idiot.Right, retard. So why did people die? You can't have it both ways. The cuts weren't made in secret.
>>538298548>Ouch! W-well at least it helped the economy..
>>538298833There's no difference. The outcome is that taxpayer money is going to terrorists and thieves because there's no mechanism to ensure it doesn't. There is no amount of money that will alleviate conditions in Africa because their problems are their own fault.Do not feed animals that can't take care of themselves.
>>538298909Trump cut foreign aid and then other wealthy countries copied him and cut their foreign aid too
>>538298982That’s true of almost all government programs. A small percentage of wages given to United States soldiers can be stolen by pickpockets but that doesn’t mean we should completely abolish the United States military
>>538296426The real question people should be asking is: Since when is it our responsibility to care for the rest of the world?
>>538298833The current discourse has been very dumb. Here’s the right view to have:1 Whether Elon’s actions are like killing is morally ambiguous. It’s neither exactly the same as shooting someone nor as simply failing to give to life-saving charity. Probably, though, it’s more like killing.2 Even if it wasn’t killing, it was still very bad.3 Exactly how bad remains to be seen.4 Probably the highest-end estimates are inflated.5 Elon’s actions definitely caused some deaths. Punting to discussion of 1 in response to this claim is a distraction.It doesn’t follow from the fact that Elon behaved badly that we’re obligated to give all our money to effective charities. Still, we are, in fact, obligated to give more than we mostly do.I also feel like there’s a pretty profound missing mood from right-wing reactions. https://www.econlib.org/archives/2016/01/the_invisible_t.html There are children currently dead because of Elon’s cuts. We can debate, as a policy matter, whether providing foreign aid was worth it. But you’ve lost a bit of your soul if the dead kids don’t weigh at all on your conscience—if your first thought, when reading about the kids who died, is how it can be spun into a snippy lib-owning remark. The attitude towards the dead children hasn’t even been feigned sadness; not a scintilla of somberness has been even attempted by those defending the cuts. Such behavior is pathological and inhuman.
>>538296426Remember Kabosu
>>538298458>Theres many other metrics of improvement like GDP, infant mortality rates going down poverty rates decreasing etcRight. So why haven't they started to support their own people? Relying on foreign countries for welfare, is a bad idea. Building up their countries, has only resulted in having tens of millions more mouths to subsidize. And tens of millions who have illegaly fled to non-African countries. The NYT article has stories that make you facepalm. People with AIDS and literally in the process of dying from it, got pregnant and had children. Abortion wasn't recommended. The kid was born, is now an orphan, and has no future other than receiving life saving meds from other countries. Another example, Fatima Abdulai, 14, held her niece, Nadia, a severely malnourished 2-year-old, and said the household has been reduced to one meal a day of sorghum mush.You have lefties in USA being pro-abortion. But somehow suggesting abortion to people dying of hunger, is haram. Counteroffer. All the Plan B and misopostrol they will ever need. That should put an end to it. The people can go out and build their country, instead of staying home raising children on the brink of hunger death.
>>538297511Send your own money
>>538299606I already do
>>538298458>direct cash transfers help remove “slack” in local economies by helping people to do things like start new businesses and invest which multiples every dollar donatedAnd there's no people needing such cash transfers in your own country?
>>538299328There's no question that Elon's actions are undoubtedly immoral by normal societal standards. Your problem anon is that you are applying those standards to a man who doesn't abide by them and thus isn't constrainted by them. Other people enraptured by the Elon cult may attempt to justify it despite this all the same, they are delusional. The very fact that Elon lies and spreads misinformation on his own platform should, you'd think, open people eyes to what kind of person he is. The optics of the thing is more important than the thing itself. Which if I was being VERY generous to Elon, this could be reduced to a duty vs lack of sense of duty. Which we also see in other big name internet celebrities like Trump, Mr Breast and so forth.But you sound smart enough to know all this. I think you must also understand that most people, miggies / "right wingers" especially, don't give a shit about kids. They haven't for a long time now. Consider how many kids are dead on the alter of muh 2nd amendment. It's gotten so bad it's just a matter of day-to-day course now. Who cares?
>>538299605Jews have to waste as much money as they can!
>>538298880But you're not preventing the bad things from happening. They're still happening, and to a bigger scale now. Had Elon never existed, then someone else would've made the connection of 65 fucking years not being enough for people to stop making retarded ass choices. Like not getting abortions instead of popping out kids that can only get feed with grains that come from a foreign country out of their good will.
>>538298880And I'm not reading your shitty ass article. You speak lies.
>>538298911The economy (dot dot)German says something funny. Time and date noted.
>>538296426If such a thing was actually true, an adviser would also be responsible
>>538299605USAID does help with family planning and contraception. Educating women and girls is a great way to lower birth rates >>538299605>Counteroffer. All the Plan B and misopostrol they will ever need. That should put an end to it. The people can go out and build their country, instead of staying home raising children on the brink of hunger death.https://lafiya.org/ contraception injections>>53829964950 usa dollars to someone in malawi goes much further to someone who needs it more >>538299890I support gun rights.
>>538299050>Trump cut foreign aid and then other wealthy countries copied him and cut their foreign aid tooAnd that's Trump's, USA's, and Elon's fault?If the help you've been giving for 65 years isn't showing significant results, then there's a good argument to stop the help that's not actually helping but only making more people and then those new people also end up suffering. All the help has done, is augment the amount of people suffering. That's an immoral thing. Supporting misery.
>>538296426>>538296705LOLBut, we want these fucking nigger animals to dieBillions need toAnd, they willYou created them, the guily is on youI hope you imagine the smell, forever
>>538299192>stolen by pickpocketsRight. Pickpockets start civil wars, rape women, destroy what has been built, ...
>>538296426>thread topic: using elon kike to try and legitimize two party theater slopthat's a no from me chiam, no good jews, they're all guilty
>>538299890>they don't give a shit about smokers. They haven't for a long time now. Consider how many smokers have died from cancer or heart disease and are dead on the alter of muh 1st amendment. We need to ban free speech, you should be jailed if you spread misinformation about cigarettes being safe.
>>538296426Holy fuck can you stop being such a verbose faggotTwo fucking paragraphs to say>supposed intellectuals are misconstruing the foreign aid cuts on xitterNow I'm going to hate read everything you wrote and shit all over it you virtue signalling fake intellectual gorilla faggot
>>538300219Insecticide treated bed nets are extremely cheap and extremely effective
>>538300101>USAID does help with family planning and contraception.Clearly the effect was minimal. The population grew by hundreds of millions. The only help given should be in the form of abortion pills. If you don't take it, then you have no moral right to blame some strangers over your child dying of hunger .
>>538300101>50 usa dollars to someone in malawi goes much further to someone who needs it moreThey will always need it more. They will never stop needing it, as long as you keep supplying it. Go and champion abortion rights in South Sudan. That's what they need. Not barely there help (sorgum mush as food) that keeps people from dying, but also keeps them from becoming independent.
>>538300716>>538300624
>>538296575MEEEEEE WHY ARENT YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO ME
>>538300600And they can't make their own? You're like an enabling parent. 65 years. when will it have stopped? Usaid started in 1961. African population was less than 300 million. Current year it's 1.58 billion people. More than a 5x increase in population. You're merely creating more misery. Not alleviating it.
>>538300778You airlift abortion pills every month. As many as they need. Population increase of 1.2 billion. It's time to stop supporting misery.
>>538300363Do you believe these school kids shooting themselves in the head or something? At least try and come up with a good analogy anon this is pathetic
>>538296426no shit. Look at retards and zionists in this thread for examples.>>538296747>>538296793Elon is non deserving of the life he has, let alone the wealth. Sadly, he is then best the socialist/communist types could hope for. If he were a closet leftist it would make sense, the sig heil, the support for Germany’s far right party, the recent promotion of Armand hammer’s son’s psyop movie. It’s all keyfabe. USAID was a a great tool for Uncle Sam, we are weaker and less safe without it. And yes, abruptly cancelling certain projects killed people, for almost zero benefit; the USAID budget was not large, especially compared to our Israeli “commitments”But he is very useful for the Laura Loomer types, who, without Elon, would cease to be a factor in our political discourse.
>>538300972> can’t make their own?You are too stupid to engage with but I’ll just give you a hint, they don’t because just maybe not everyone is exactly the same. Like you, macaco. Ebola, that’s the thing you should spend 5 minutes learning before posting ignorant macaco dumbfucky for all to cringe at.
>>538304158Lol. 0 argument. Retards be like it.
>>538303315Sorry nigger we're done feeding africa
>>538296937>since “American” barely means anythingIt sure as fuck doesn't mean "give everyone else your money or else you're an immoral poopyhead". Fucking faggot.
>>538296426>>538296575I can tell you that the millions of kids dying thing is a myth because Elon didn’t cut jackshit and the deficit didn’t change at allThey literally just make up stories so miggers can still feel like they are based racists while they import niggers and JEETS
>>538304158Ebola, that’s the thing you should infected with you dumb nigger
>>538305401USAID was less then 1% of budget and was able to save lives for a couple thousand dollars per person so even a 30% cut could easily kill tens of thousands more people
>>538301360The analogy is simple I am a threshold deontologist not a Utilitarian Allowing people to own ar15s does not violate anyone’s rights Allowing people to legally spread misinformation does not violate anyone’s rights I support free speech even if banning free speech would save net extra lives I would draw the line at nuclear weapons and explosive making guides
>>538296826>There’s a separate debate to be had about how blameworthy Elon isElon is an open Neo-Nazi so its basically proven that he murdered those brown kids on purpose and he murdered as many as he possibly could and loved it.
>>538296426You lost, tranny
>>538296937American has meaning. Giving to the other side of the world before cleaning up your own neighborhood is immoral. Usaid was an immoral program.
>>538305590This all sounds very smart but doesn't matter since you lead with a bad analogy. Especially bad because you should have gone with a food analogy to boot.
