O = Stable, law-like, mathematically intelligible regularities in the structure of realityIf God is real, then we would expect to observe natural orderIf God is not real, then we would not expect to observe natural orderWe observe natural orderTherefore, observing natural order increases the probability that God exists.
>>538312151Order is a construction on man's rationale. Hubris incarnate, attempting to understand pure existence.
Genesis 3 says that God forces you to multiply so he can torture you and your children to death because he didn't feel like letting you live forever because you believed Satan when he said this wouldn't happen if you gained knowledge
>>538312151>subject is unable to escape its subjective bias
>>538312151another case where some retard confuses the description with the mechanism.but actually math is math and reality is reality, they are not the same thing. math is not the reality itself.>math is a derivative and NOT a cause.what math actually is is a descriptive tool.we use math to model patterns that emerge naturally from physical laws.a circle is mathematically regular but that doesnt mean a deity drew it, it means the geometry describes the path of least resistance in a symmetric field.the order exists because physics must function this way, math just happens to be our way of mapping those functions.also you assume order must be imposed from the top down (by a God).but in actual reality order is an emergent property of complex systems.dissipative structures (look up non equilibrium thermodynamics) create highly organized, predictable patterns like stars, galaxies, and even life purely through the flow of energy gradients.this "natural order" is a thermodynamic necessity and doesnt need a god to function.it is self organizing and not externally commanded and it doesnt need to be.you also seem to assume that chaos is the default state without a creator.that is a complete misunderstanding of how physics work.chaos (entropy) and order (complexity) are two sides of the same coin in any energetic system.the existence of structure is an inevitable consequence of energy flowing through matter. again doesnt require a god.basically your fake god is just a placeholder for your inability to grasp the actual physical mechanisms that drives the universe.
Your major premise is a tautologyStop posting this worthless thread
>>538314131why is there laws of nature? We know they didn't always exist because of the big bang so what put them there
>>538314319>because of the big bangnever happened, the big bang cosmology model is flawed and doesnt work.jews have to constantly pull imaginary bullshit out of their asses (dark matter etc.) to make it work on paper and jews are also kinda dumb because they dont get that math and reality isnt the same thing.from this retarded idea is where a lot of errors in science come from.a better model is the Electric Univere theory/Plasma Cosmology this is build on actual empirical observations and doesnt require imaginary bullshit to work.>why is there laws of nature?There arent in the sense of rules written in a book that matter is forced to obey.there are only physical processes.what you call a Law is just a human description of how energy and matter interact under specific conditions.again, the "laws" don't cause the events, the physical dynamics of the system are the events.it is the predictable result of non equilibrium thermodynamics.in any high energy driven system patterns will emerge and stabilize based on the available energy flux.those stable patterns are what your brain labels as "Laws".you must detach your brain from these retarded math is reality ideas to become smarter.
>>538314581I read about it and it doesn't match what happens apparently.
>>538314757New science also suggests there are different laws based on location. Even classical physics said things like time are a location
>>538314757>I read about itthis doesnt mean much since obviously you couldnt even figure out that math is not the reality.so you really are in no position to make any judgement.its like, imagine a pajeet walked up to you and explains to you he read all about hygiene and toilets and showers but it doesnt match what he thinks should happen outside on the shitting street.>>538314820>time are a locationsee you cant even figure out that time is simply a secondary measurement of movement.its not some separate thing or some dimension, you need movement to measure time, without movement you cant derive the concept of time.so once again you have proven to be completely clueless.
>>538314932Time is the 4th dimension. I also never made a comment on math being reality or not. Obviously time is a location x,y,z,t gives you coordinates of an event and you can travel though it by going to different locations
>>538315026>Time is the 4th dimension.only if you are jewish or retarded and cant figure out that time is a secondary measurement of movement.>I also never made a comment on math being reality or not.actually you do all the time. you arent even aware of it lmao>Obviously time is a locationno
>>538315106It's already been proven
>>538315270proven? by whom? by a consensus of jews who use mathematical abstractions to hide their failure to explain physical mechanisms?you can cling to your "proven" jew coordinates and your "proven" jew dimensions all you want but they are still just ink on paper.they dont move matter, they dont spark currents, they dont drive the universe.the physics aka the reality happens in the movement not in the jew textbook.also are you a pajeet?your lack of brain kinda gives it away.
>>538315270Satellites do not experience the same flow of time as on earth so it needs to be corrected
>>538315406Yes, i'm the stupid one when I can understand Albert Einstine
>>538312151P2 is not justified lil bro
>>538315429thats just another textbook example of potential difference affecting physical processes.when a satellite clock runs at a different rate than an earth clock this is not the time bending.what you are actually observing is that the frequency of atomic oscillations (the basis of our clocks) is dependent on the local electromagnetic and gravitational potential of the environment.so if you change the energy state or the potential of the medium through which a process occurs, the rate of that process changes.>>538315495pajeet you cant even write Einstein, you cant even understand the most basic things. you dont even know about indoor plumbing or shitting into a toilet.your people are on average 1 IQ point away from profound mental retardation.
>>538315665Get 2 atomic clocks and hold one above the other and measure the flow of time
>>538314131>>538314581>nigger retard slips his own mind, literally
>>538312151HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>538312151Meaningless word salad does not make your Jew wizard any less fictional.
>>538315879Alpreet Einscheiss again with more dumbfuckery, its funny because you are literally proving my point while trying to debunk it.if you held those clocks at different potentials they would show different rates.that proves that atomic oscillations are sensitive to their environmental potential.that is exactly what I told you.and you still cant grasp the distinction between the measurement and the mechanism.you are so desperate for a proven fact to save your izzat that you mistake a localized frequency shift for a cosmic miracle.
>>538316051So if I give you an event and don't give you x,y,z,t how do you get to it?
>>538316364let me make this so simple even you a pajeet can grasp it.stop thinking about math books for a second and look at the shitting street.imagine a cow walks by and leaves a massive pile of cow shit on the road.does that pile of dung exist because someone wrote down its latitude, longitude, altitude, and the time?No.the shit exists because the cow moved, ate, and had a biological process.the event, the shitting, is a real physical movement of matter through space driven by energy.a pajeet subhuman comes along later with a notepad. wobbles his head and writes:>Location: Corner of Shittingstreet; Time: 12:05 PM.did those numbers create the shit?did the shit wait for the pajeet to write down the coordinates before it could fall out of the cows asshole?of course not.the shit happened first.the numbers are just a way to talk about where and when it happened after it was already done.an event in the universe (like a star exploding) is just like the cow shitting.it happens because of physical forces.your xyzt are just the little notes people take after the mess has been made.reality is the cow and the shit. math is just the pajeet with the notepad.now stop confusing the two Alpreet Einscheiss.
>>538316642You need to observe something for particles to exist
>>538312151>natural order implies God, specifically Yagay the "all powerful" God that gott mogged by iron chariots(x) Doubt./thread
>>538317226nope
>>538312151>If God is not real, then we would not expect to observe natural orderIt does not follow. Why is your puny nigger brain unable to humor a reality in which there is natural order in a godless universe?>order exists>we don't know exactly why>HURR DURR MUH GOD EXISTS, SPECIFICALLY YAGAY TOO, THE "ALL POWERFUL" KEK THAT LOST TO IRON CHARIOTS
>>538317455This
>>538312151>Things be how they are>Therefore GodI think we took a wrong turn somewhere bud.
>>538317776>we dont know exactly whyactually we do know why order exists. it is not a mystery. order is an emergent property of non equilibrium thermodynamics.
